March 4, 2026

Savannah Ghosts: Conversations With The Spirits of Americas Most Haunted City w/Brian Byers

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Savannah, Georgia, is known as one of the most haunted cities in America—but what if the spirits there actually want to talk?

In this live episode of ParaTruth: Reborn, we’re joined by Brian Byers, author of Savannah Ghosts, a deeply personal and compelling account of his direct conversations with spirits throughout Savannah. Brian shares what the dead have told him about their lives, their afterlives, and the messages they still want the living to hear.

Are these spirits trapped? Guiding? Healing? Or simply telling their stories at last? Join us live as we explore spirit communication, haunted history, and what Savannah’s ghosts reveal about life beyond the veil.

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Coming up on Paratruth Reborn, we talked to Brian Byers

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about his conversations with ghosts in Savannah.

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Welcome, Welcome, Well do Parah Truth Truth?

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How's it going Paratruthers. Welcome to another episode of Paratruth Reborn.

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My name is Justin and I'm Eric. And today, as

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the beginning stated, we're talking to Brian Byers about his

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new book in their own words, Spirits of Savannah. Brian,

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welcome back to Pair True three Born.

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Thank you guys. It's good to see you guys again.

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Hopefully you guys are doing well. We are doing great.

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Mm hmm. I like that. Well, great is great is

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probably the better side of what you can be. So

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that's one hundred percent. So I think the biggest question,

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and we asked you know.

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Everybody, is why write this type of book or right

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this book period?

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Well I have a really great answer because now at.

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The publisher made me do it. We hear that.

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This is definitely self published. Well, there's a million Savannah

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ghost books, you know, and Jen and I we own

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you know, we own the Mystic Apothecary in Savannah, Georgia,

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and we also own Savannah Psychics we also own Savannah

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Ghost Tours, which those are the three businesses we have.

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And as we learned the tour You're ago, I developed

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it and maybe be what we wanted to be. We

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started hearing all of these stories from other ghost to

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our companies coming through and going is that. I, Oh,

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that's odd. I can't find that they're saying things and

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I can't find the information. And I'm a medium. So

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one day I'm in Right Square and I'm like hanging

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out and I can feel different energy in there, and

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I'm picking up on one of the spirits and I'm like, okay,

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I understand who this is. This is Richard Weist. So

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I'm like, let me just talk to him. Hey, did

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you guys get really hung from this tree? Matt? You know,

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I'm asking, like straight for it, like the punchline to

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the story. He says no, and I'm like, wow, that's

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wild because that's not what we've heard. Found out later

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it was a gallows. They actually we're hung from a gallows,

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not a tree. So the trees in Savannah they're really

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big and beautiful, and everyone says there's just one tree.

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They call it hanging tree. And everyone says they were

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hung there. Sure a lot of people were hung in

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that square, but they were hung by gallows. And Richard

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was one of the first, if not the first, And yeah,

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he said no, it was a gallows. How he didn't

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like to really talk about it much, but we got

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a little conversation going. I started thinking, we're going to

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have to change some of the things we've learned. And

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it took me years, you know, just sort of wandering

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around so that, you know, can I choot someone to

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talk to me, kind of get a voice, and I

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just started writing them down. And obviously when a medium

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gets words, we're not getting you know, we're not getting

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a written document that would be wonderful, that'd be amazing.

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So I had to discern what was being said and

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try to put it in their words the best they could.

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But that's why the book started. And I didn't realize

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it was going to be a book. I was really

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working on it for our tour guides and up being

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the book. So that's that's why I'm like, it's probably

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the It is the only ghost book I know where

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a medium is interpreting for the spirits, you know, in

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a city. So so it's their stories just trying to

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get it straight.

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Yeah, now, what led you into spirit communication?

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In general? You know a lot of people get led.

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I woke up when I was born and oddly have

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always spoken with different, different spiritual beings. And my mom

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figured it out early, you know, when I'm like, you know,

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a little kid. And it wasn't that I was led

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into it. It just I didn't know what was wrong.

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You know, no one ever said, oh, it's just your imagination,

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go back to bed. My mom was always well, tell

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me more, what are they saying? And I would just

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reveal more and more, and I think people started realizing

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and yeah, that's that, can't you know, that's that's not

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just like a make believe friend. They're actually really talking

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to someone and getting information. So you know, and Jen

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is like that too, my wife the same. We almost

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have the same story. We just were born a little different.

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I think everyone kind of is, but some of us are. Yeah.

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I always used a baseball analogy. You know, you can

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start a baseball team. You can be born a picture,

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but not everyone's born a picture. Sometimes you have to

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train to learn how to be a picture, you know.

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But Jen and I were born pictures, and that's just

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we've sort of done in our old life, and no

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one's ever told this not to, so it wasn't really led.

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But I think we were just not told not to,

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so we just do it. And I mean, Justin, I've

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known you for twenty five thirty years. I don't know, man,

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it's been a long time.

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It's been at least twenty close to when we started podcasting.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, back before there was no podcast and

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we were the first man we were the pioneers. But yeah,

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Justin evenknew back then. I was a little weird, you know,

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and I just knew things, you know.

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Well, that's the nice thing about getting to know you

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is not only have you become a very good friend,

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a brother, but also one of my best mentors. And

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you know, going through the spiritual awakening that I have

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gone through in the past ten years, fifteen years in

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two months, well yeah that too. You know. It's been

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one of those things where I need somebody to talk

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to because I can talk to my wife Shelly about it,

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but she has no clue about it. She doesn't understand it.

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I feel she is sensed, but she doesn't want to

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open that door. And I'm like, that's fair. Enough because

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if I wouldn't have opened that door, I probably would

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not want to either.

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So you know, some people they don't embrace it. You know,

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they go, oh my god, that freaks me out, or

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it's a little weird, or is my life going to

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change if I if I step through the doorway And

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the answer is yes, you're like, but it's not so

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bad once you get over here, you.

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Know, right, Yeah, you just gotta get used to it.

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Well.

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I think also a lot of people, at least as

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of the last you know, ten fifteen years, kind of

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base this idea of spirit communication and just mediumship, often

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like Hollywood, off of movies, and they think, oh, it's

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just going to blow up and my life's going to

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be like a mess and ruin and not be able

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to turn it off. You know, It's like, it's not

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quite that way. It's not how it winks.

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You're right, You're right, I mean, Eric, you actually hit

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on something there. Hollywood has really destroyed the whole idea

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of what really is happening. You know. I love listen.

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I'm a I used to be a movie director and

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a TV producer. I love Hollywood, I love movies, I

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love stuff like that. But man, they they take little

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kidbits that are good and then they ruin it. I

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think one of the better movies ever that shows a

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little bit of that is The Others. I think they

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did a great job in that movie. That's closer to reality,

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though it is a little dramatic. They're seance scene. That's legit, man,

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that is how that stuff flies and it is. We've

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had a lot of those experiences here in Savannah.

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So now what makes Savannah different spiritually compared to other places?

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It's just more better than other place. I'm not joking.

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Savannah is one of the only cities in the United

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States that is all here. I go, Yeah, a necropolis.

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It's like there's been so many battles, so many deaths,

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and no place to put the body. So they just

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build this city on top of dead folks. Like they

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were digging up the road two years ago on Broughton

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Street found six bodies. Man, they just there's thousands and

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thousands and thousands of people that have died here that

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never got a burial. Now do I believe that when

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we die we come back and haunt our gravesite? No? No,

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But I do believe there's a lot of unrest because

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of that. A lot of spirits that are they're not

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like whoo, They're more like, hey man, that sucks, you know,

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And I really I didn't see that coming. And battles

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are traumas. When people die from trauma, suicides and murders,

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they stick longer. I've noticed. They come through just as

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easy as anyone else, but they are little more amped,

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you know, they're a little more upset in going. That's

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not what I wanted, Undo, Undo, you know. So we

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had a lot of that here. We have the Pawnee,

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we have the Yamacros that were here first, the Spanish,

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they came in, fought the Pawnee, pushed them away. Then

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we had, of course, you know, the English Oglethorpe came

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over here to found Savannah in seventeen thirty three and

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brought a whole court of Highlanders with them and Darien

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just south of Savannah, thinking we were going to go

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to battle, and all these Scots came over with hammers

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and you know, swords, ready ready to fight, and everyone

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was peaceful. So they just drank and ate and had kids. Man,

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they just settled in. That's where our scott Irish come from.

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Our blood comes from that area. That's why Savannah has

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such a huge Saint Patrick's Day a big huge and

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a lot of the Irish here are their first slaves.

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People don't understand that we had they're the first ones

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that that came here. So Savannah has a lot of history.

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Uh so does Europe They've had even older history. The

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Savannah has a lot of history that they just decided

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to build a city on pop off and not like

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bury anyone. So we have a lot of burial grounds

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underneath McDonald's, you know what I mean, It's like, it's weird.

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Why are my fries moving by themselves?

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Who stole the nuggets? They're plugging in the numbers.

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So if you think Ghostbusters, you think Savannah.

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Oh one hundred percent. Man, you know they should have

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filmed it here, not New York. I'm just that would

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make way more sense, and it would have been a

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longer movie, maybe a trilogy. All that happened, you know,

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back to back.

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Well, now when it comes back to the book, like

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when did you realize that the spirits weren't just present

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in Savannah and around at this time, but we're actually

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building to talk and did you have to nudge anyone

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in order to get gaffstation starting.

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Yes, I had to nudge a lot, and I actually

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utilized my guide, my spirit guide, and I call him Rabbit.

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A lot of people don't know about him, and I

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know that's a weird thing to say, but very spiritual, angelic,

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high high order angel with a nickname. It looks nothing

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like a rabbit. Everyone wants to know, Oh, rabbit, how

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is he doing that? He's not that he's slightly intimidated

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and I'm kind of yeah. Times, but I had to

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utilize him to get words sometimes, so I had to

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do some things that are out of the ordinary. Most

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spirits love the talk. They want to come through, not

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men but women. But the one I thought i'd get

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them the highest was one of our loudest stories and

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Samannah about Alice Riley, one of the very first UH

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slaves that was hung. I thought I was going to

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get a lot of information from her. She hardly came

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through at all for me, probably because I'm a dude,

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and you got to be honest. People don't change a lot.

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You have to understand, you know, men hung her. She

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was you know, raped by men. She was treated horrible

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by men, beaten by men, and so why would you

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want to talk to this dude with a beer who's saying, no,

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I'm a good guy. Of course, that that's not going

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to work. So I had to use her her lover

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who came through, who was Richard, and so I got

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him to tell her story. So I had to do

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some tricks here to get this to get the book written,

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but I did get what I think is closest to

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the story. There's even one of the Keiko house where

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there's these young twins that there's no historical evidence that

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they ever existed. People are saying that's a myth. Well,

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the twins are there, so I don't know whose they

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belong to, but they seem to think they did die,

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and I think they did die in a fireplace that

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collapsed on them. It sounds horrible, but that myth came

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from somewhere, and I think there is truth to it,

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though there's no historical evidence, which you know, I can't

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say this is a history book. I can say, according

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to the voices I heard, it's a history book. So

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now I tried my best to get the story out,

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but I hate that I can't find some of this

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as historical evidence, any documents or anything about the twins.

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But there are certain stories that I go, oh, I

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thought that was a myth. Nope, it's true, but most

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of it is that's not true at all. That was

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a myth. But here's the truth, right.

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So I wanted to start out with the conversations that

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you've had with just the showman right here.

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Oh, so that's Herman Myers. He is He's a name

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that you won't hear in Savannah. Nobody really knows who

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he is anymore. Back you know, back in the early

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eighteen hundreds, everyone knew people who he was. And so

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the story is weird. How this is the reason why

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I even thought this was going to turn into a book.

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It's because of him. I had a local historian income

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through and she wanted to get a medium reading. I

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think she wanted to talk to her grandmother, I really do.

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And a lot of times when you get a media reading,

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you can't you know, pick up a phone and call

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the number of the person you want to talk to.

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It doesn't work like that. You can't conjure them. So

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there's always a lot of hope. I hope someone so

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comes through. I hope, you know, and basically you get

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who you get and you don't throw a fit. That's

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the way it works. Like i'll tell you in a minute.

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Justin So, she came in and we got interrupted by him,

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this guy, and I said, he's got an h name.

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It's like Harry or Hermann or something. And her face

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was just she went crazy with it. She was really

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She says, I don't know any Herman or Harry, and

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I said, he knows you, and you've got something of his,

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and he's excited for the world to see it. And

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she figured out she had this giant painting that she

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was having restored because somebody back in the early eighteen

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hundreds had taken a knife to it and slit the faceilken,

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and she was having her restored, and she kind of

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forgot that she was doing that, and she's like, oh

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my god. That's Herman Myers. He's the old mayor of

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Savannah back in the early eighteen hundreds. He's the guy

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that after the Civil War rebuilt Savannah and made it prosperous.

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He built the city hall downtown with a big gold dome.

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This painting is hanging in the city Hall in his

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old office, which the current mayor actually uses to hold

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council meetings and stuff, so it's crazy that he came through,

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and it was excited about the painting being restored so

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people could see his face again, as he's a narcissist

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and she didn't want her reading to be about him,

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but it really was a lot about him for the

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first fifteen minutes, and then I had to tell him

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to kind of back off. But I thought that was

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so wild that he came through. It wasn't even related

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to her. So later she had me come to city

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Hall and she showed me his big portrait how it

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was fixed. You can still see the line where it

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was slit. So while I was in there, I got

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more information about who did it, and everyone thought it

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was a political thing. And it's in my book. It's

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the last chapter. It's the Hermann Meyers chapter. It was

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a lover and she was angry at him. You know,

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he had a couple of people on the side. He

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was married, but he was also seeing a couple of

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other ladies and this one got really angry lit his painting.

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So that's the person that did it, and he was

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just glad to have it back because well, he loved himself. Yeah,

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he did a lot for commerce here in Savannah, built

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Bowl Street, made it what it is today, helped everyone

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get off their feet and get you know, tobacco stores

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and cigar stores going. He was a cigar connoisseur and

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a whiskey distiller, so he did a lot of that

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and made money off of that as well. But he's

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really the reason why I went this has got to

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be a book. You know. It's so once I got

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that down a little bit, I said, you know what,

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I'm just going to put it all together and let's

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just get it out there. You know, if people want

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to read what they're saying about Savannah, you get to

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hear their story. It's pretty cool.

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It's pretty cool.

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It's like you're hearing history directly from the source of

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his mind.

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It makes me want to go to Jerusalem. Man, right,

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I'm like, let's go talk to some of the That would.

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Be awesome, you know, that'd be super awesome.

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Yea.

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Now when it comes to because I know you just

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mentioned that you're you're kind of struggling with exactly who

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this guy was by name. You mentioned a couple of names.

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She's like, oh is it so, how do you actually

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have these conversations like do you hear these.

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People audibly intuitively?

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Tools? And how do you discern what it is they're saying?

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If you're on share love It, You're right? A wonderful question.

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And I've been trying to work on how to describe

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this to people, and I think I've gotten it down now.

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I can even use Justin as an example right now

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because there's a guy with him. Uh So, I've been

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talking with this guy behind Justin the whole time, this

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old guy all right related to Justin. Uh. I know

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he starts with an m. Let me do it like this.

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He's letting me know he's an in a short word,

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so one syllable he'll go buy a one syllable name.

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That's as far as I've gotten with him so far.

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But I know he's probably from Justin's dad's side of

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the family, so he's related.

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He's my grandfather.

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There you go, there, I go. I don't have his

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name yet, I just know it's him. So the way

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it works, I wish I could hear, I wish I

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could see them, but I know they're around and I go, oh,

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there's someone over there. So while I'm talking to you, guys,

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believe it or not. I have gotten pretty good at

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talking to them at the same time and trying to

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get two conversations going. Ned there's O, K. Sure it's

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a nick. You've got a nick or Nick that's it.

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And my my dad's name is Junior Nicholas.

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Oh wow, that's cool. That's cool. Did your grandfather go

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by nick, the one, the one the short yep? Usually yeah,

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because he's comfortable with that. Yeah, he's fine with saying

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that to me, to you, so you're not. But I

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don't know what he looks like. I know that he's

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got age on him. I know that he looks younger.

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He doesn't like the way he looked uh, so he's

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probably looking like he's in his fifties or sixties. He

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doesn't like the whole old look. So he's picky about

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the way he looks.

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Man.

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So some people are. He's one of those I want

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to look good, you know. I don't you ever meet him?

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Did you know him?

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He seems to know you, so yeah, I mean, oh yeah, Well.

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We were close to our grandpa cancel Area.

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He was the type who always wore a button down

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shirt with the slacks or something nice.

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Shapens he just wants to look good and he doesn't

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want to look he doesn't want to look old, but

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he doesn't want to look sloppy, you know what I mean.

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So he's like, I look good. I like the way

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I look.

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Just let him know I look good now. So yeah,

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he uh.

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Yeah, that were grandpa.

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Wow. Well hanging out with you guys, and so that's

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how that works. Do I get to hear them or

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see them? Know? But I'm asking him. You ever played

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a game where people right on your back, you know, yeah,

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and you try to guess what they're saying. It's a

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lot like that, but it's over here and not on

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your back. I wish it was on the back. It

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would be a lot easier. Some people will try to

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write in cursive and that's horrible. I'm just like, oh, okay,

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lots of lead sports. Right, we're doing automatic writing where

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you let them move the pencil in general. Note she

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can read their sloppy scribble and make sense of it.

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So she's over my shoulder as I'm just letting it roll.

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And when they moved that pencil around, which is really weird.

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It's a really weird experience. If it's not print we're screwed.

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But luckily Jen can go that looks like cursive. Help

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help say that looks like this. And there's normally someone

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at the table in the salance that goes, I know

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who that is, you know, or they'll draw a picture.

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You know, that's actually cool, but it is. That's the

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only time you ever get to see it as like

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an automatic writing. Other than that, I'm doing it out

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here and just trying to get the right sound. I

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will mix up g's and j's, and I will mix

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if they're jazz, and I'll mix up thhs and s.

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I've noticed so someone might say thissh and they're trying

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to say fish, and I'm like, is it a tch

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or F I can't tell they feel the same. And

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I don't know how to explain how I hear it

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because I'm not hearing it. So but it's a great question, Eric,

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I mean, that is a happy really, it's just an

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odd thing. You get used to doing it over time.

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It's like throwing a baseball, and you get used to

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pitching a fastball over a crew ball. You just know

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the feeling and the way it tastes. I don't know

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that sounds weird. But I know what the words tastes

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like a bus, so I.

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Mean it makes complete sense. I can't tell you how

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many kinds have been asked how I do something that

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I try to explain it and you can't.

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It's like I just I just do Yah.

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You know that sense.

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It's hard to crib it if you can't describe it,

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so they have kind of feel it out. Yeah, he's

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definitely hangs out with you guys quite a bit. He

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must like the show.

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He's always one of our biggest supporters for sure, Like

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in Mineral in Life, he.

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Listens, he thinks it's great. So that's pretty cool. Man.

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You guys are lucky.

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's from his line that we

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both have gotten our sensitivity from. So it doesn't surprise

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me that he's around. He actually came to me years

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ago when I was having difficulties with my ex girlfriend

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and he can't. I was just distraught and he's like,

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it's gonna be okay, kiddo. When he said kiddo, I

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knew who it was.

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That's wild. That's wonderful. That's when you know everything's fine.

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Now doing this book, were there any messages out or

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stories that surprised you or even unsettled you at all.

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Oh that's a good question. Unsettled, no, I had. I

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have explored Savanna quite a bit, got to connect with

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a lot of spirits, some of them I still don't

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know their names. We even have some upstairs and are

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apothecary that I even write about on there's a chapter

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on the Mystic Pathecary. Three eleven West Brotton Street. We

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had a fire up there, and there's some gentlemen that

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were sleeping up there and did not get out. The

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only way out, because we're on the third floor is

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a ladder in the middle, which the fire blocked them

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off from the ladder and they suffocated, you know, and

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then they burned. I don't think that they had to

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experience the the burn part. They seem fine with the

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whole thing. But it's cool to get more information. One

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of the guys we know, he came through in a silence.

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His name is Moses, and very cool, very cool guy,

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very nice. He just sort of hangs out with Jen

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in the back on which is pretty funny. But our

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friends Chris and Megan, they owned the Savanna Paranormal Museum

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down the street. When we first met them. We were

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just talking and I told Chris that, you know, we've

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got a guy that used to deliver grain and cotton

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from River Street, which is only three blocks away from

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us up to mister Kypothecary. His name is Moses. And

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Chris was like what because he had an experience at

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Moon River the brewery with a guy named Moses that

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overwhelmed them, saying the same design. He said, he looks

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just like the guy I was describing. He was freaked

465
00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:07.279
out because he's like, you must be real because I

466
00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:11.559
experienced that also. So our Moses guy has been in

467
00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:14.359
and out of buildings all over Savannah downtown in that

468
00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:19.359
little block three or four block area delivering goods. So

469
00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:23.599
he feels very comfortable in our area. But it's cool

470
00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:26.480
to get that information from Chris, going, Wow, you had

471
00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:28.880
the same guy. And even Megan, his wife, was like,

472
00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:32.400
I can't believe it because she was with Chris during

473
00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:35.920
that and actually helped him because Chris started to black out.

474
00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:40.480
Was not used to having that type of spiritual encounter,

475
00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:44.480
and so she helped him. But you know, we had

476
00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:46.759
just met him. It was like the first day we met,

477
00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:50.000
so they were a little freaked out that. I'm like,

478
00:27:50.119 --> 00:27:54.160
you're you're Moses lives upstairs from us man, So you know,

479
00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:56.119
he's like, well, that'd be cool to meet him again,

480
00:27:56.240 --> 00:27:58.559
you know. So I think he's cool now with wanting

481
00:27:58.640 --> 00:27:59.039
to do that.

482
00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:05.000
But yeah, So when you talk to so many different spirits, like,

483
00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:09.319
do you find a lot of reoccurring personalities or types

484
00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:11.640
of spirits even in the Sapana area.

485
00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:18.119
You know, in the Savannah area there's not as many

486
00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:24.599
old spirits anymore. So you know, I can say the

487
00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:28.039
personalities don't change much. Like I can tell you men

488
00:28:28.359 --> 00:28:30.640
don't like to talk much. You know, if we get

489
00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:34.279
a guy that comes into a reading, I'm always going,

490
00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:36.599
oh great, that's a guy. You know. Even if the

491
00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:38.640
person wants a guy to come through, they're like, oh,

492
00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:41.240
guy's coming through. I'm like, yes, there's a male energy here.

493
00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:44.440
I can feel them. They're excited, and I'm feeling disappointed

494
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:47.799
because men are like, they don't change a lot when

495
00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:50.920
they cross over. People don't change a lot when you

496
00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:54.400
cross If you're if you're like I don't like to

497
00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:57.039
share my feelings or I don't like to talk much.

498
00:28:57.240 --> 00:28:59.759
I just like to pay attention and listen, which a

499
00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:02.759
lot of men, like sixty percent of men are like them,

500
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:05.480
so I know there's a high chance that they're not

501
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:08.759
going to say a lot and my client might be disappointed. However,

502
00:29:09.960 --> 00:29:12.400
women like to talk a lot more and they like

503
00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:15.000
to share their details, and I get excited, Oh we've

504
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:17.839
got a woman. This is great. So those styles of

505
00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:23.839
personalities all throughout Savannah don't change much. But I've noticed

506
00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:29.079
the older spirits don't come through as often as you know.

507
00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:32.079
And this is going to sound crazy like celebrities that

508
00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:35.559
don't even live in Savannah that No, I'm a medium

509
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:40.279
show up. And we've had some weird moments guys, like

510
00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:43.039
the same day O. J. Simpson died, he came through

511
00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:45.519
in a seance where we didn't know he died. That day.51200:29:46.359 --> 00:29:48.839



We had the same thing with the drummer from Food Fighters.51300:29:48.960 --> 00:29:51.039



I mean, Jen and I are just trying to do51400:29:51.079 --> 00:29:53.039



our thing for a group of people that want to51500:29:53.039 --> 00:29:56.119



talk to their relatives in a seance setting and a51600:29:56.240 --> 00:29:58.839



sayan setting. You're opening up for everyone. So that's what51700:29:58.880 --> 00:30:00.680



I do when I'm just walking down the street, I51800:30:00.799 --> 00:30:03.480



just try to open up and feel what can I feel.51900:30:04.440 --> 00:30:06.519



We get a lot of new folk that aren't even52000:30:06.599 --> 00:30:09.440



from here that you know, Oh you're a medium. I52100:30:09.920 --> 00:30:13.160



wanted to deliver a message or and they do. They52200:30:13.200 --> 00:30:16.720



come through very loud and clear. But there's some people52300:30:16.759 --> 00:30:18.799



that just were in car accidents, you know, I like52400:30:18.839 --> 00:30:21.880



in the seventies and eighties that come through there. It's52500:30:21.920 --> 00:30:24.960



just regular folk, you know. But that's not a book52600:30:25.000 --> 00:30:26.599



people want to read about. It is a guy named52700:30:26.640 --> 00:30:31.839



Jeff Taylor, you know, that used to work at Walgreens. Well,52800:30:32.039 --> 00:30:34.119



we don't care about that as much as the history52900:30:34.160 --> 00:30:37.240



of Savannah. So that's why I knew that was a53000:30:37.279 --> 00:30:41.200



good point. If I could get enough spiritual interaction, I53100:30:41.240 --> 00:30:44.319



could build a book. There's still like four chapters I53200:30:44.319 --> 00:30:47.799



didn't add because I never got enough information. You know,53300:30:47.880 --> 00:30:50.559



I got enough to say, there's a guy there in53400:30:50.599 --> 00:30:52.240



the cemetery. I don't know who it is.53500:30:52.440 --> 00:30:52.640



You know.53600:30:53.359 --> 00:30:54.640



That's not a good chapter.53700:30:55.279 --> 00:30:57.839



But now is that something though that you might continue53800:30:57.839 --> 00:31:00.599



to work on and then the book?53900:31:01.079 --> 00:31:03.960



Yeah, do a second edition. If I can get some54000:31:04.000 --> 00:31:06.960



more information, I will totally feed it into that and54100:31:07.039 --> 00:31:10.359



we'll do a second edition, definitely. But I'm not going54200:31:10.400 --> 00:31:12.000



to do a whole other book. I don't like to54300:31:12.039 --> 00:31:17.480



have volume two it's the same book, same concept. But yeah,54400:31:17.519 --> 00:31:19.480



if I get more information, that'd be great. And there's54500:31:19.480 --> 00:31:22.480



still a couple I'm hoping I can get more info on.54600:31:24.400 --> 00:31:32.319



Yeah, now do spirits express unfinished business or something else entirely,54700:31:32.359 --> 00:31:37.240



because you know, the common thread that people think of54800:31:37.599 --> 00:31:40.359



is and again this is because of pop culture that54900:31:40.799 --> 00:31:43.599



spirits are here because of unfinished business.55000:31:43.680 --> 00:31:49.359



Quote unquote, no, no, misnomer, that's not true. However, like55100:31:49.480 --> 00:31:52.839



today had a medium reading. I know we don't divulge55200:31:52.880 --> 00:31:57.400



too much information, but a mail did come through Brazen55300:31:58.119 --> 00:32:01.559



with a lot of push for this one lady and55400:32:01.599 --> 00:32:05.680



they were all three sisters sitting there today and said,55500:32:06.920 --> 00:32:10.079



you need to tell him to get off his ass,55600:32:10.799 --> 00:32:15.039



stop wasting time, and stop being hypnotized by that junk55700:32:15.200 --> 00:32:19.079



and move forward and just get out and be something.55800:32:19.440 --> 00:32:23.279



And the lady's laughing and she goes, that is my dad,55900:32:23.720 --> 00:32:26.880



and that is I know, that's for my brother. I56000:32:26.960 --> 00:32:30.599



has to tell him because he is he's not doing56100:32:30.640 --> 00:32:32.799



anything with his life. And my dad hated that he56200:32:32.880 --> 00:32:37.680



played video games, so I'm like he was and that's56300:32:37.720 --> 00:32:39.880



all he said. And then it was like check please56400:32:39.920 --> 00:32:43.759



he was out Like that was it was like Irish56500:32:43.799 --> 00:32:45.680



goodbye if I've ever seen. And there was like not56600:32:45.759 --> 00:32:48.079



a lot of hey, I love you, but now it56700:32:48.160 --> 00:32:50.599



was like tell them to get off his butt and change.56800:32:50.599 --> 00:32:53.759



And you know, I'm like, she's like, oh my god,56900:32:53.839 --> 00:32:56.240



I know who that is. And I'm like, good because57000:32:56.359 --> 00:33:00.200



that's the message. So is that unfinished business. No, that's57100:33:00.319 --> 00:33:04.000



just them being adeducated that their family line is not57200:33:04.200 --> 00:33:08.240



being what they could be. Right and oh and he57300:33:08.279 --> 00:33:11.079



did throw in there this thing is real and I57400:33:11.119 --> 00:33:15.799



think he was talking about judgment. So like, dude, that's57500:33:15.799 --> 00:33:21.920



a big statement. Yeah, I don't know. So I don't57600:33:21.960 --> 00:33:24.599



they know. They don't stick around for that. They stick around,57700:33:25.039 --> 00:33:31.160



you know, like uh some spirits. Imagine. Imagine you're a farmer. Okay,57800:33:31.839 --> 00:33:34.240



you work every day of your life on this farm,57900:33:34.519 --> 00:33:39.240



raising chickens and and uh you know, cattle and all58000:33:39.319 --> 00:33:41.880



that stuff. Then you go to sleep one night and58100:33:41.920 --> 00:33:47.079



you don't wake up. Well, that's your farm and those58200:33:47.119 --> 00:33:49.759



of your family that are still there and they're struggling58300:33:49.759 --> 00:33:53.240



to run it. And so you're not going to go well,58400:33:55.000 --> 00:33:58.200



tough luck. I'll see. I'm on the other side. A58500:33:58.200 --> 00:34:00.680



lot of people go, well, what can I do? What58600:34:00.720 --> 00:34:03.079



can I do? And this is my farm man. I58700:34:03.119 --> 00:34:05.160



don't want to see it fall apart. I really worked hard.58800:34:05.240 --> 00:34:08.159



I like this place. I love my family. I feel58900:34:08.199 --> 00:34:10.599



bad that I am not here to actually physically do59000:34:11.079 --> 00:34:14.559



so they'll stick around thinking they're trying to help, and59100:34:14.639 --> 00:34:17.280



there's not a lot they can do. But you ever59200:34:17.280 --> 00:34:18.800



feel like you don't want to get out of bed?59300:34:18.840 --> 00:34:20.639



I know you guys, know, both of you know exactly59400:34:20.639 --> 00:34:23.800



what I'm talking about. I know I know Eric justin.59500:34:23.840 --> 00:34:25.320



I know you do. But I can tell you Eric,59600:34:25.960 --> 00:34:30.199



some days getting out of bed. Yeah, I listen, brother,59700:34:30.239 --> 00:34:34.119



I feel it, man, when you are laying there going59800:34:35.159 --> 00:34:36.800



I don't feel like it. I'm just not going to.59900:34:36.880 --> 00:34:38.960



I think I'm gonna call him sick. And all of60000:34:38.960 --> 00:34:43.320



a sudden, you get this push. It's almost like there's60100:34:43.360 --> 00:34:47.679



a weird whisper that says, look, just get up, get up.60200:34:48.320 --> 00:34:49.760



I know you don't want to. I know you're not60300:34:49.800 --> 00:34:53.119



looking forward to it. Get in the shower, brush your tease,60400:34:53.559 --> 00:34:55.480



do this. And then the next thing you're out and60500:34:55.519 --> 00:34:59.360



you're going what got me up? What changed my mind?60600:35:00.119 --> 00:35:04.119



You got folk yelling at you, going, no, sir, I'm60700:35:04.159 --> 00:35:07.039



not going to let you just lay around and feel bad,60800:35:08.079 --> 00:35:11.000



get off your ass, get out there. And that's that's60900:35:11.039 --> 00:35:13.440



why they're here. And that's that's what you're hearing. Are61000:35:13.599 --> 00:35:16.920



people that have crossed over, pushing you out, making sure61100:35:16.960 --> 00:35:20.280



that you're the best you you can be. They know61200:35:21.280 --> 00:35:25.599



that you're looking for fulfillment anyway. Your family knows. They're61300:35:25.639 --> 00:35:28.679



not omnipotent. They don't know everything about you, but they61400:35:28.719 --> 00:35:31.960



know enough that they can. You ever see you know,61500:35:32.199 --> 00:35:36.519



Christmas Carol, the ghost of Christmas Present. They're in your house,61600:35:37.079 --> 00:35:39.480



you know, they see what you're doing right now. They're going,61700:35:39.599 --> 00:35:43.679



like mister Nick over here watching, going, I love this,61800:35:43.679 --> 00:35:46.400



this is great. He loves this stuff. I think it's awesome.61900:35:47.519 --> 00:35:50.320



They will not let you feel depressed. They will not62000:35:50.360 --> 00:35:52.960



feel let you feel melancholy. They don't want you to.62100:35:53.760 --> 00:35:56.480



And you'll fight it. I know, Eric does. You don't62200:35:56.480 --> 00:35:57.400



fight it, going.62300:35:57.840 --> 00:36:00.840



No, leave me alone. I don't want to get but62400:36:00.960 --> 00:36:02.719



you do. And when you do, you're like, you're glad62500:36:02.760 --> 00:36:05.920



you did, you know? And that makes them smile. So62600:36:06.360 --> 00:36:08.360



that's not necessarily unfinished business.62700:36:08.480 --> 00:36:13.920



They just feel like they're helping and they will encourage62800:36:13.960 --> 00:36:18.960



you and push you and uh, it's pretty it's pretty awesome. You, now,62900:36:19.400 --> 00:36:22.320



there are all there are also there are other spiritual63000:36:22.320 --> 00:36:24.559



beings that do the opposite, but I don't want to63100:36:24.679 --> 00:36:26.559



get into that pretty much. That's kind of the weird63200:36:27.039 --> 00:36:30.800



whole other ballgame, because there are a lot of different63300:36:31.000 --> 00:36:33.639



beings that we don't even understand. Some of them are63400:36:33.679 --> 00:36:34.639



just not very cool.63500:36:35.159 --> 00:36:39.039



Yeah, right, Well, now, so with all of the stories63600:36:39.039 --> 00:36:42.360



that you've heard and you've talked to the spirits about,63700:36:42.760 --> 00:36:46.599



was there any particular story that was just like emotionally63800:36:46.760 --> 00:36:48.360



affected you heapily?63900:36:50.639 --> 00:36:53.400



Oh, well, that's a heavy duty one. There might be64000:36:53.440 --> 00:36:57.119



one that's not even in my book. There's been quite64100:36:57.119 --> 00:37:03.840



a few that I feel bad about, and I will64200:37:03.840 --> 00:37:08.960



tell you there's one. Actually the story doesn't get told64300:37:08.960 --> 00:37:14.440



the right way, but it is definitely a younger girl64400:37:14.480 --> 00:37:17.679



that was enslaved here, that was treated really, really bad.64500:37:17.719 --> 00:37:20.159



And I know you hear all the stories and we64600:37:20.199 --> 00:37:22.440



all think, oh, they're all treated bad. Well they are,64700:37:22.519 --> 00:37:24.800



they are. I mean, for the most part, you know,64800:37:24.880 --> 00:37:27.480



there's like ten percent that actually got very lucky, and64900:37:27.599 --> 00:37:33.599



we're in a good family that cared. But a servent65000:37:33.639 --> 00:37:38.159



try is abuse, and there's a lot of abuse that happens,65100:37:38.159 --> 00:37:43.079



and there's some things where girls have given birth after65200:37:43.440 --> 00:37:48.599



being raped, where the child is dead and they have65300:37:48.639 --> 00:37:50.719



to watch that, they have to experience that child being65400:37:50.760 --> 00:37:52.719



taken away and being killed, and it makes them want65500:37:52.719 --> 00:37:55.239



to commit suicide, but they can't because no one lets them.65600:37:55.800 --> 00:37:57.440



So they have to live with this, and then they65700:37:57.440 --> 00:38:01.440



get pregnant again and they're not what they're doing, and65800:38:01.480 --> 00:38:03.719



then they have to know that child while she's pregnant65900:38:03.840 --> 00:38:07.960



is going to be murdered because they don't want they66000:38:07.960 --> 00:38:12.400



don't want that in their family. So there's stories like that,66100:38:12.480 --> 00:38:14.679



and they're all over, man, it's not just Savannah. They're66200:38:14.679 --> 00:38:17.639



all over. But when I get a story like that,66300:38:19.159 --> 00:38:22.559



it's moving. I've even had some very recent stories just66400:38:22.599 --> 00:38:27.840



from locals that come in that it's just not it's unfair.66500:38:28.280 --> 00:38:31.880



It's just unfair, and so that does I'm a very66600:38:31.920 --> 00:38:38.360



sensitive person, and I just I try to I have66700:38:38.519 --> 00:38:41.199



to separate myself when I'm doing reading that. My eyes66800:38:41.239 --> 00:38:43.280



will get all watery and I'll try not to be.66900:38:44.280 --> 00:38:48.599



But there's a lot of stories here that are just rough,67000:38:49.400 --> 00:38:51.800



and I don't think they ever are No one will67100:38:51.840 --> 00:38:54.800



really ever understand unless you were in that person's shoes,67200:38:55.039 --> 00:38:58.199



understanding how bad that is, but we can say the67300:38:58.239 --> 00:39:02.920



story like the girl that just kept watching her children die,67400:39:03.079 --> 00:39:06.639



knowing that they're in her belly and they're going to die.67500:39:06.719 --> 00:39:11.360



You know, it's like horrible and horrible, but saying it67600:39:11.440 --> 00:39:14.840



is one thing. Experiencing it and feeling their feelings, which67700:39:14.880 --> 00:39:17.679



is another thing that happens when you're doing when you're67800:39:17.679 --> 00:39:22.000



communicating with them, I'm just starting their feelings about things,67900:39:22.519 --> 00:39:25.440



so I can pick up on that. And a lot68000:39:25.440 --> 00:39:27.679



of times it's pretty emotional, and I can get a68100:39:27.679 --> 00:39:30.760



little thrown up in ruin my day pretty much. But yep,68200:39:31.159 --> 00:39:34.639



I never imagine. Yeah, there's a lot of that. But68300:39:34.719 --> 00:39:36.639



I think a lot of really good meeting rooms would68400:39:36.639 --> 00:39:39.039



tell you the same thing. It's hard, and you got68500:39:39.039 --> 00:39:42.079



to separate. Do you got to separate? Yeah?68600:39:42.119 --> 00:39:46.159



I mean, I mean I'm very empathic, so a lot68700:39:46.199 --> 00:39:49.440



of times it's very hard to understand what emotions are68800:39:49.480 --> 00:39:54.000



my own and what are somebody else's or spirits.68900:39:54.559 --> 00:39:58.480



Yeah, it's hard, man, it's hard. Yeah.69000:39:58.880 --> 00:40:01.599



The last guest we had it was about Taro and69100:40:01.679 --> 00:40:07.159



we were talking about you know, I always keep myself open,69200:40:08.840 --> 00:40:13.519



and that's not necessarily healthy, but I'm worried about missing something,69300:40:14.039 --> 00:40:17.599



so I don't want to turn it off, but then69400:40:18.039 --> 00:40:20.519



my sleep is disrupted because I don't.69500:40:21.039 --> 00:40:27.920



So yeah, yeah, that'll that'll mess with you right there. Yeah, yeah,69600:40:28.000 --> 00:40:33.039



being empathic. My wife is so empathic that if someone69700:40:33.119 --> 00:40:36.880



isn't feeling well, she feels sick, it's just like and69800:40:36.880 --> 00:40:39.599



they don't even have to tell her. She'll say, wow,69900:40:39.639 --> 00:40:41.360



my throat is hurting, and someone will go, well, I've70000:40:41.360 --> 00:40:44.360



got to sore throat. That's weird or you know, it70100:40:44.440 --> 00:40:46.760



happens all and then they leave, and then she feels better.70200:40:46.880 --> 00:40:49.519



She's like, oh, that wasn't even me. I was feeling70300:40:49.559 --> 00:40:53.119



one of my kids. Yeah, pretty wild.70400:40:55.239 --> 00:40:59.719



Now there's always gonna be those skeptics out there. How70500:40:59.719 --> 00:41:03.719



do you friends respond to skeptics who say that this70600:41:03.800 --> 00:41:07.599



is like imagine subconscious, you know, it's it's all in70700:41:07.599 --> 00:41:11.559



your head, compared to those that are true believers.70800:41:12.360 --> 00:41:17.239



Right. So, for me, my favorite people for readings are70900:41:17.360 --> 00:41:22.199



newbies and skeptics. I love boff. I build a database71000:41:22.320 --> 00:41:24.960



of things I can say, well, I'm sitting there with71100:41:25.039 --> 00:41:28.400



them and I'm really trying to go for the impressive.71200:41:28.800 --> 00:41:33.320



So and I'll tell you why, and let's just be honest.71300:41:33.800 --> 00:41:36.079



Even Eric and justin, both of you guys, even though71400:41:36.280 --> 00:41:38.440



Justin I know you're you're tied in. Man, I know71500:41:38.480 --> 00:41:44.039



you are. You're a skeptic. We're all skeptics. We all71600:41:44.159 --> 00:41:45.280



were born this way.71700:41:46.000 --> 00:41:48.480



I think when it comes to the paranormal we kind71800:41:48.480 --> 00:41:50.079



of have to be to a next time.71900:41:50.440 --> 00:41:53.559



Well, you should be. You should be. You should read72000:41:53.599 --> 00:41:57.480



into everything, you should question everything. The Bible says to72100:41:57.519 --> 00:41:59.880



do this. I mean it's if you don't, then you're72200:42:00.199 --> 00:42:04.760



missing a lot of really wild stuff. So skeptics are great.72300:42:04.840 --> 00:42:09.440



We should be. I think that's beautiful close minded. That's72400:42:09.440 --> 00:42:11.400



a whole of the ball game. And so if you're72500:42:11.400 --> 00:42:13.519



going to be close minded, first off, a whyle are72600:42:13.519 --> 00:42:17.119



You're getting a reading with me? You know, so you're72700:42:17.159 --> 00:42:19.920



gonna test me? Well, that happens a lot. I've even72800:42:20.000 --> 00:42:23.400



had some people go, there's no way you know that,72900:42:24.079 --> 00:42:27.079



Like it's impossible for you to know that. You must73000:42:27.079 --> 00:42:29.840



have googled me and or you must try to look73100:42:29.920 --> 00:42:33.320



me up. And I'm like, Quinn, you know, just you73200:42:33.320 --> 00:42:37.400



know my schedule, I'm blocked out from nine to nine.73300:42:37.559 --> 00:42:40.599



I just got done doing my last reading at nine73400:42:40.639 --> 00:42:42.800



o'clock and we came home and here I am so,73500:42:43.960 --> 00:42:46.880



I got no time to memory. I can't memories. I mean,73600:42:47.760 --> 00:42:50.559



and justin you know this, I have a bad memory.73700:42:51.679 --> 00:42:54.320



There's just no way I forget, you know, my keys,73800:42:54.400 --> 00:42:57.440



I forget things. I'm old now, and that's even worse.73900:42:58.599 --> 00:43:00.679



But I love skeptics because what I try to do74000:43:00.719 --> 00:43:02.400



when I'm doing a reading with him is build the74100:43:02.480 --> 00:43:07.480



database while we're connecting, Like even with you guys, I'm74200:43:07.519 --> 00:43:11.519



mister Nick here. I got another thing of information from74300:43:11.559 --> 00:43:14.000



him earlier, and I'm just in case I need it,74400:43:14.039 --> 00:43:16.679



in case someone goes, how do you know that's Nick?74500:43:16.760 --> 00:43:19.599



You just said am well, and you said ned you know,74600:43:19.800 --> 00:43:22.880



so I'm guessing one syllable name is trying to make74700:43:22.920 --> 00:43:25.719



it go faster. And you know, he's born born in74800:43:25.760 --> 00:43:31.519



the first year of the of the of the of74900:43:31.599 --> 00:43:33.960



the year, which would be January. He's been either born75000:43:34.000 --> 00:43:36.280



in January or he died in January. It's one of75100:43:36.320 --> 00:43:40.760



the two, but that's his birth year. And we we75200:43:40.760 --> 00:43:43.400



were born into the world over here and then we75300:43:43.880 --> 00:43:47.400



crossed over, which is another birthday, so they could be both.75400:43:47.440 --> 00:43:49.639



But I know I got January out of them, which75500:43:49.679 --> 00:43:52.400



is the first first year or first month of the year.75600:43:52.440 --> 00:43:56.320



So so I'm constantly trying to build things. So if75700:43:56.360 --> 00:43:59.519



someone wants a little more information, I can say, well,75800:43:59.559 --> 00:44:02.960



their favorite color is this, or whatever information I can75900:44:02.960 --> 00:44:06.719



get from them, that would be evidential. But really what76000:44:06.840 --> 00:44:09.480



it comes down to for me and skeptics, I love them.76100:44:09.559 --> 00:44:12.320



I think they're my favorite people because I like watching76200:44:12.400 --> 00:44:18.320



a skeptic go damn, all right, that's wild coincidence. I76300:44:18.360 --> 00:44:21.519



love that. A lot of coincidence. Yeah, yeah, it's a76400:44:21.519 --> 00:44:24.559



lot of coincidences. You know. I think if we have76500:44:24.639 --> 00:44:27.960



too many coincidences, it's not a coincidence, right, you know,76600:44:28.639 --> 00:44:32.920



how many does it take to not be odd and coincidental?76700:44:34.159 --> 00:44:36.440



But I like him because they do push me to76800:44:36.480 --> 00:44:39.840



be sharper and to try and be a lot sharper.76900:44:39.880 --> 00:44:45.920



It's hard, Like Eric's a little harder to read, you know.77000:44:46.760 --> 00:44:50.679



It's not that he's closed. He's private. He's very open,77100:44:50.840 --> 00:44:53.519



but he's very private. So I would know if you77200:44:53.559 --> 00:44:55.400



and I were to actually sit down and do a reading,77300:44:55.440 --> 00:44:58.079



I would do better job one on one with you77400:44:58.239 --> 00:45:02.480



wanting to be read, you know, But I do you know,77500:45:02.559 --> 00:45:05.719



I got the privacy fences on him, justin you're an77600:45:05.719 --> 00:45:07.840



open book. You always have Ben since day one. You're77700:45:07.920 --> 00:45:11.119



just like, here's me, you know, you know, here's my heart.77800:45:11.199 --> 00:45:14.119



You can hurt me, and people do You're just like77900:45:14.320 --> 00:45:18.599



out that hurts? Why do I keep doing that? But78000:45:18.679 --> 00:45:22.679



I do like skeptics. I don't really have a you know,78100:45:23.199 --> 00:45:26.320



any kind of a rebuttal for them. I just I78200:45:26.480 --> 00:45:29.800



enjoy them. I like trying to cone me better for them.78300:45:29.840 --> 00:45:32.159



So I would say, bring it on, you know, let's78400:45:32.280 --> 00:45:34.480



let's have a little skepticism and let's see if I78500:45:34.519 --> 00:45:36.719



can't get you something that would blow your mind. You know.78600:45:38.159 --> 00:45:41.840



I did that just yesterday without reading, which was really78700:45:42.039 --> 00:45:45.000



just I didn't even know. Actually it was even before78800:45:45.039 --> 00:45:47.000



they even did the reading. They had just come up78900:45:47.079 --> 00:45:49.880



and I had said five things really quick to this79000:45:49.960 --> 00:45:52.000



guy before he went to the bathroom, and he went,79100:45:53.079 --> 00:45:55.119



how do you know that? And I didn't know what79200:45:55.159 --> 00:45:57.159



he was talking about. After the reading, he said, let79300:45:57.239 --> 00:45:59.760



me tell you what you said before we even did79400:45:59.800 --> 00:46:03.679



the eating, because it's this whole new thing, and uh,79500:46:04.000 --> 00:46:06.400



it's pretty wild because I was like, I didn't I79600:46:06.440 --> 00:46:10.280



wasn't even trying. I'm just staying stuff.79700:46:11.960 --> 00:46:16.519



My favorite like, yeah, no, skeptic. I love being skeptic,79800:46:16.559 --> 00:46:18.400



and it's like a lot of my friends right into79900:46:18.400 --> 00:46:20.880



the paranormal like or even newbies into the paraglem you know,80000:46:20.920 --> 00:46:23.440



they're they're always mentioning stuff to me and bringing up80100:46:23.599 --> 00:46:25.519



questions that they're saying, oh, I witness this and that,80200:46:25.679 --> 00:46:28.119



and then I just keep questioning them, questioning them, questioning them,80300:46:28.760 --> 00:46:30.280



and they get to a point and they're like, I80400:46:30.280 --> 00:46:33.079



thought we believed this stuff. It's like, all I do80500:46:33.119 --> 00:46:36.840



you did to me? Well, you're telling it.80600:46:36.239 --> 00:46:40.719



But it's good to get all the information. And it's80700:46:40.760 --> 00:46:42.920



like did you check this? Did you look at this?80800:46:43.480 --> 00:46:47.760



Where was the camera? Really? You know, and then you know,80900:46:48.199 --> 00:46:51.920



justin knows back in the day, the ghost Hunters team,81000:46:52.000 --> 00:46:54.679



they would send me stuff to try and because I81100:46:54.760 --> 00:46:58.280



was in the After Effects, Oh my battery slow wew uh,81200:46:58.320 --> 00:47:01.000



they would try and have me bunket. So I would81300:47:01.239 --> 00:47:03.519



try to recreate it in After Effects and some other81400:47:04.239 --> 00:47:07.360



programs to see if I could mimic what that looks like.81500:47:08.079 --> 00:47:11.280



And uh, yeah, I think it's healthy, very health healthy81600:47:11.280 --> 00:47:13.480



to be a skeptic. Yeah.81700:47:13.559 --> 00:47:15.880



But now, so what would you say to someone who81800:47:16.880 --> 00:47:19.800



is afraid to believe but wants to believe.81900:47:22.360 --> 00:47:28.719



Who's afraid to believe but wants to believe. That's weird,82000:47:28.880 --> 00:47:33.480



that's a very interesting person. They would be afraid. I82100:47:33.480 --> 00:47:36.199



would need to know why they're fearful, Like, what are82200:47:36.199 --> 00:47:39.119



they afraid of? Is that they're life changing? I mean82300:47:39.159 --> 00:47:39.840



I would get that.82400:47:42.400 --> 00:47:45.159



I think so in my experience or even people that82500:47:45.199 --> 00:47:49.079



we've talked to, uh, just you know, throughout this whole82600:47:49.199 --> 00:47:53.199



podcast life of ours, I know we both encounter people82700:47:53.400 --> 00:47:56.599



who are interested, who who like they want to believe,82800:47:56.639 --> 00:47:58.920



they're afraid that if they do believe, then they open82900:47:58.960 --> 00:48:01.519



this door. In that door, could we do something very negative?83000:48:01.840 --> 00:48:04.000



You can need to something, But again it's back to you.83100:48:04.840 --> 00:48:08.679



I would tell them negative is relative. I mean we83200:48:08.719 --> 00:48:10.960



have You could walk out the door and get hit83300:48:11.000 --> 00:48:13.519



by a car, or you could get stabbed by somebody,83400:48:13.639 --> 00:48:16.039



or ice might show up and throw you into some83500:48:16.079 --> 00:48:20.239



weird alligator prison. I don't know. Yeah, there's negativity everywhere.83600:48:20.960 --> 00:48:23.519



The spiritual world is also like that. There, Sure there83700:48:23.599 --> 00:48:27.559



is that, but is it everywhere? No. Now, the majority83800:48:27.599 --> 00:48:30.320



of what happens here is not negative at all. And83900:48:30.559 --> 00:48:32.639



when it is negative, you can kind of feel it84000:48:32.679 --> 00:48:34.199



and see it and go, oh, I don't want to84100:48:34.199 --> 00:48:37.559



do that. So, I mean we've had readings where we've84200:48:37.559 --> 00:48:40.960



had an unwonted spiritual being come through and start writing84300:48:40.960 --> 00:48:44.000



square words and we go, oh, we got to close84400:48:44.000 --> 00:48:47.280



the circle and start again, get them out of here,84500:48:47.440 --> 00:48:49.599



clean it and say we don't want that, we don't84600:48:49.639 --> 00:48:52.000



want foul language. We on the one good folk. So84700:48:53.119 --> 00:48:54.400



but you can kick them out, you know.84800:48:55.880 --> 00:49:03.639



Yeah, Now what message or message jizz do spirits motes84900:49:03.679 --> 00:49:05.159



want living to hear?85000:49:05.599 --> 00:49:05.679



Like?85100:49:06.000 --> 00:49:14.239



In general, first thing always I'm okay. That's like almost85200:49:14.280 --> 00:49:17.559



every time tell them I'm okay, I'm fine because they're85300:49:17.599 --> 00:49:21.000



worried about them, because they're sad because they're gone. So85400:49:21.119 --> 00:49:23.599



that's the first thing. And then the second thing I85500:49:23.639 --> 00:49:28.960



noticed a lot of is it's either I had no idea,85600:49:29.119 --> 00:49:33.360



but this is real. We're actually over here, We're actually okay,85700:49:33.480 --> 00:49:36.840



we keep going. You know, it's the excitement you know85800:49:37.039 --> 00:49:41.199



of this is a real thing. You know people that85900:49:41.440 --> 00:49:44.360



were atheists that cross that were going, holy crap, here86000:49:44.400 --> 00:49:49.880



we are. This is cool. It's normally very positive. The86100:49:50.039 --> 00:49:51.880



you know, the big one, The big one I get86200:49:51.920 --> 00:49:54.719



a lot of, especially if it's someone younger that crosses,86300:49:56.159 --> 00:50:01.840



is not to feel guilty, don't feel bad, knows let86400:50:01.920 --> 00:50:04.159



go of that because I don't care. It's fine, and86500:50:04.199 --> 00:50:06.519



I don't care about my stuff, and it doesn't matter86600:50:06.519 --> 00:50:08.800



who has it. I don't care. I don't care about86700:50:08.840 --> 00:50:11.800



the farm, I don't care about the house. It's okay,86800:50:11.960 --> 00:50:13.960



do whatever you want. I don't care. I don't I'm86900:50:14.000 --> 00:50:15.880



not there anymore. It's not mine. You can do whatever87000:50:15.920 --> 00:50:19.280



you want. A lot of that is the general upfront87100:50:19.320 --> 00:50:21.920



messages I get over and over and over, and they're out.87200:50:21.920 --> 00:50:25.199



They're almost like to me, it's like, well, yeah, of87300:50:25.239 --> 00:50:27.320



course you're going to say I'm okay, you know, but87400:50:27.440 --> 00:50:29.880



that's what they want to say. They're really excited to87500:50:29.960 --> 00:50:33.159



say that. So I have to be understanding of the87600:50:33.239 --> 00:50:36.239



spirit that's wanting to relate the message because they're very87700:50:36.320 --> 00:50:39.840



sincere and excited. And I'm bored because I've done this87800:50:39.920 --> 00:50:43.679



for so long, so I might come across as very87900:50:43.920 --> 00:50:47.559



nonchalant by the way. They're okay and my client's crying88000:50:47.639 --> 00:50:50.840



and the spirit's excited. Tell them I'm really fine, not88100:50:50.880 --> 00:50:53.519



to cry. I don't want to see you crash. And88200:50:53.599 --> 00:50:56.000



I'm saying these things and they're like wow, really, and88300:50:56.039 --> 00:50:59.519



I'm like, yeah, well, you're not acting all. I hear88400:50:59.559 --> 00:51:01.800



it every day you hear it every day, so I88500:51:01.840 --> 00:51:04.599



have to remember, I've got to look I gotta I88600:51:04.639 --> 00:51:08.280



have to act surprised sometimes too, and I would sometimes88700:51:08.320 --> 00:51:11.039



I'll pretend to go, oh my god, they're fine, you know,88800:51:11.320 --> 00:51:11.599



and it.88900:51:11.599 --> 00:51:12.559



Makes them feel better.89000:51:12.599 --> 00:51:15.199



I know that sounds terrible, but you do it every day,89100:51:15.199 --> 00:51:18.719



and every day it's the same story. So that's the messages.89200:51:18.760 --> 00:51:21.400



I'm okay, don't feel guilty, and I don't need my stuff.89300:51:22.000 --> 00:51:24.920



Yeah, you know, we took a break from the paranormal.89400:51:25.039 --> 00:51:26.920



It's the same stuff.89500:51:27.000 --> 00:51:30.320



Every week. It is it is, And you go, how89600:51:30.320 --> 00:51:34.000



do I make this different and exciting? Well, there are89700:51:34.239 --> 00:51:37.519



exciting elements happen every day, but a lot of it89800:51:37.559 --> 00:51:41.760



is repeat, you know, and go, yeah, everyone's pretty much89900:51:41.840 --> 00:51:44.039



the same. Every person is pretty much the same. Even90000:51:44.079 --> 00:51:46.920



when we crossed. We don't change a lot. I like90100:51:46.960 --> 00:51:49.199



the guy that came through today. He was really cold90200:51:49.239 --> 00:51:51.320



and directed, and they were like, well, he was a90300:51:51.360 --> 00:51:55.519



colonel in the army, and I'm like, oh, well, okay,90400:51:56.400 --> 00:52:00.320



tell him this, just get off his ass. And I'm like, okay,90500:52:01.000 --> 00:52:03.159



it's funny. You could feel it, and I like that90600:52:03.239 --> 00:52:06.239



because I go, well, that's a different message. That's a little.90700:52:06.360 --> 00:52:09.519



That's a little abrasive. Okay, there's no love in that,90800:52:09.760 --> 00:52:12.559



but there is love. It's tough love. Right.90900:52:14.599 --> 00:52:18.760



So now you've been open as spiritually since you were91000:52:18.800 --> 00:52:23.239



a kid, you'd always had these voices, these people talking91100:52:23.239 --> 00:52:28.199



to you, coming to you spiritually. Right, How has your91200:52:28.400 --> 00:52:33.119



view on death shaped over your lifespan so far?91300:52:33.960 --> 00:52:39.760



There's no death? I mean, yeah, you know, even when91400:52:39.800 --> 00:52:42.119



I was younger, I'm cool with it. You know, it's91500:52:42.239 --> 00:52:45.800



like I know that this is fine. So but how91600:52:45.800 --> 00:52:49.000



do you tell everyone else that you know? You can't?91700:52:49.079 --> 00:52:53.320



So everyone's scared when they die. And I've you know,91800:52:53.920 --> 00:52:56.119



I've kind of been with people as they cross over,91900:52:57.159 --> 00:53:00.760



and it's amazing what they experience. You know, a lot92000:53:00.800 --> 00:53:03.480



of times they go, oh my god, he's selling cells here,92100:53:03.519 --> 00:53:06.880



and I'm like, there we go. You see them, wonderful,92200:53:07.280 --> 00:53:10.079



I feel them, this is great, we're doing this together.92300:53:10.599 --> 00:53:24.440



And then three hours later they stop breathing and they're happy. Thanks. Huh. Yeah, well, well.92400:53:26.519 --> 00:53:38.960



He's switching over, so we'll give him a minute.92500:53:38.880 --> 00:53:44.679



Yah. Well, don't need to give dead air here, I suppose.92600:53:46.000 --> 00:53:49.679



Sorry, guys, what are what are some of your thoughts92700:53:49.679 --> 00:53:50.400



so far on this?92800:53:51.119 --> 00:53:52.760



No? I mean it makes sense, and again it lines92900:53:52.840 --> 00:53:54.880



up with a lot of what we you know, what93000:53:54.960 --> 00:53:57.920



we've learned over the years talking to various individuals who93100:53:58.039 --> 00:54:01.960



are psychonic videos uh, we speak to spirits in general,93200:54:02.440 --> 00:54:04.079



but it's also a lot of what you've been talking93300:54:04.079 --> 00:54:07.679



about on your own spiritual journey as well. Just how93400:54:08.079 --> 00:54:12.400



especially like the way that Brian describes how he receives messages,93500:54:12.440 --> 00:54:16.360



I think was actually very very well done, because that's93600:54:16.400 --> 00:54:17.960



something that a lot of people can't do. And I93700:54:17.960 --> 00:54:19.760



think he kind of hit the nail on the head93800:54:19.760 --> 00:54:21.960



in his explanation, because at least it made sense to me,93900:54:22.639 --> 00:54:26.239



you know, and I kind of get it too, like it.94000:54:26.320 --> 00:54:31.199



There's always those things that we do or that we94100:54:31.719 --> 00:54:34.760



you know, I guess that we do that that just94200:54:34.760 --> 00:54:36.840



makes sense to us, or things that we understand that94300:54:36.920 --> 00:54:38.320



just makes sense to us, but when we try to94400:54:38.360 --> 00:54:41.280



explain it to somebody else, you know, it just doesn't work.94500:54:43.280 --> 00:54:49.639



There he is, Okay, so my battery died? So nice, right,94600:54:50.000 --> 00:54:53.760



isn't that just Actually I should have said something even cooler.94700:54:56.800 --> 00:55:05.119



Yeah, maybe he's not real, Maybe he's as well.94800:55:09.119 --> 00:55:10.559



It's a glitch. You'll be talking to someone else the94900:55:10.559 --> 00:55:12.679



whole time. He's just now calling it. He forgot it95000:55:12.760 --> 00:55:15.119



was at eleven or at ten eleven?95100:55:15.800 --> 00:55:19.639



Okay, so uh yeah, battery died. I should have said95200:55:19.639 --> 00:55:23.039



something cooler, like, yeah, you know, the spirits were angry95300:55:23.079 --> 00:55:28.400



with me and they so where were we? I don't95400:55:28.679 --> 00:55:30.480



I don't remember. Yeah.95500:55:31.000 --> 00:55:35.760



Oh has the word changed? How you feel about that? Basically?95600:55:36.000 --> 00:55:42.280



Oh yeah? So no, uh death, I'm okay with it.95700:55:43.079 --> 00:55:45.400



I know that this actually is better. On the other side,95800:55:45.480 --> 00:55:48.320



my wife and Eric kind of excited about what happens next.95900:55:48.320 --> 00:55:51.519



So yeah, I know that sounds weird to tell people,96000:55:51.559 --> 00:55:54.920



but that is that's real, that's authentic, you know.96100:55:55.519 --> 00:55:59.880



Yeah, I mean, I think it's better in my opinions.96200:55:59.880 --> 00:56:01.639



But to have something like that to look forward to96300:56:01.800 --> 00:56:03.960



rather than fear it, you know, like so many people do.96400:56:05.239 --> 00:56:07.320



Everyone nowadays is like I get this done, got to96500:56:07.360 --> 00:56:08.960



do this, gotta do that, gotta you know, have all96600:56:08.960 --> 00:56:12.880



these things aligned before that day happens. And in reality,96700:56:12.920 --> 00:56:16.360



it's like there's so much more that happens beyond your96800:56:16.440 --> 00:56:18.880



life here in the physical real.96900:56:20.440 --> 00:56:23.840



And I'll tell you, you know, if I didn't have so97000:56:23.880 --> 00:56:26.840



many weird experiences, I might feel a little different. But97100:56:29.360 --> 00:56:38.719



either I'm either I'm crazy and accurate, or or there's97200:56:38.800 --> 00:56:41.119



life after death, you know what I mean. You know,97300:56:41.199 --> 00:56:45.400



it's like that's the option. So it maybe both. Maybe97400:56:45.440 --> 00:56:50.599



I am crazy, but it's it's funny. You can't really97500:56:50.639 --> 00:56:53.920



convince other people though, that you know there is an afterlife.97600:56:54.079 --> 00:56:57.760



They they have their beliefs, they have their reasons why97700:56:57.840 --> 00:56:59.400



they believe what they believe. A lot of people were97800:56:59.480 --> 00:57:02.159



damaged in church. Church has ruined a lot of people.97900:57:04.559 --> 00:57:09.199



But you know, I think beyond that, everyone wants to believe.98000:57:10.719 --> 00:57:13.960



So I do my best to let them know, Hey,98100:57:14.119 --> 00:57:16.400



you don't have to really sweat anymore about all that98200:57:16.800 --> 00:57:18.840



crab after this. You know, we don't have to do98300:57:18.880 --> 00:57:19.519



that anymore.98400:57:20.119 --> 00:57:24.920



Right, And if you're crazy, all three of us are crazy.98500:57:24.920 --> 00:57:26.360



Right, I know we're insane.98600:57:26.639 --> 00:57:26.920



You know.98700:57:28.599 --> 00:57:31.840



You have a whole radio show dedicated to the insane.98800:57:31.840 --> 00:57:32.159



Right.98900:57:37.239 --> 00:57:38.199



Eric No.99000:57:38.280 --> 00:57:39.599



I was just going to say, like the whole idea99100:57:39.639 --> 00:57:41.079



of like I want to believe. It always makes me99200:57:41.119 --> 00:57:43.360



think of that poster from the xpiles. I think, to99300:57:43.519 --> 00:57:45.840



this day, for the last twenty years, I want to99400:57:45.840 --> 00:57:47.679



believe every single day of my life. That's why we99500:57:47.760 --> 00:57:49.800



keep doing this too. It's like, even though we do99600:57:49.880 --> 00:57:51.639



believe you want to know more.99700:57:52.239 --> 00:57:57.320



No, mhm, you know, And that whole poster sparked something99800:57:57.360 --> 00:58:00.199



from me a long time ago, because I know that99900:58:00.320 --> 00:58:05.000



those spiritual beings do exist, people call them aliens or whatever,100000:58:06.480 --> 00:58:09.239



and I know that they're about to show there. They're100100:58:09.280 --> 00:58:11.639



about to show off here in about a year or so.100200:58:11.639 --> 00:58:14.719



So we're gonna that whole poster will mean a lot100300:58:14.760 --> 00:58:16.679



of stuff to a lot of people. It'll say, I100400:58:16.760 --> 00:58:20.360



believe it'll change. I believe now you know it.100500:58:20.360 --> 00:58:21.639



We'll be seen it everywhere.100600:58:22.280 --> 00:58:22.920



Yes, we will.100700:58:24.239 --> 00:58:27.159



Yeah, we had or I had, Eric had to be gone,100800:58:27.239 --> 00:58:32.119



but Vincent jenna On, Oh wow, he had the same100900:58:32.599 --> 00:58:38.679



exact description of what you're saying of what these aliens are.101000:58:38.480 --> 00:58:39.360



They they are.101100:58:39.320 --> 00:58:42.519



Extraterrestrial in a sense, but have turned themselves into light101200:58:42.639 --> 00:58:47.280



beings that are coming back to show us.101300:58:47.719 --> 00:58:52.599



And really really they're here right now, right that's the101400:58:52.639 --> 00:58:55.679



way we're seeing it as a comeback. They're not traveling101500:58:55.679 --> 00:58:59.800



through space. They're here. They're just they're going to show101600:58:59.800 --> 00:59:03.920



off here shortly, and we're gonna go, wow, that's wild.101700:59:04.719 --> 00:59:08.920



Yeah, Well it is about that time to let you go.101800:59:09.159 --> 00:59:11.000



So I want to give you a chance to tell101900:59:11.039 --> 00:59:13.679



everybody where they can find you and find your work.102000:59:14.360 --> 00:59:18.599



Well, I tell everyone to find us on social media102100:59:18.719 --> 00:59:23.840



Savannah Psychics. That's the easiest way to find this. TikTok, Instagram,102200:59:24.920 --> 00:59:30.039



sub stack, Facebook, always Facebook, you know, and people say102300:59:30.079 --> 00:59:31.599



it's for old folk. I don't know. We got a102400:59:31.639 --> 00:59:34.119



lot of young folks still on Facebook, so I don't know.102500:59:35.519 --> 00:59:38.320



But you know, TikTok's I think the go to. I102600:59:38.320 --> 00:59:42.880



would say, hit us there, come to Savannah. We're three102700:59:42.920 --> 00:59:45.480



eleven West Broughton Street on the third floor. We're above102800:59:46.039 --> 00:59:51.519



Kindri Scott. It's kind of a really unique shop. Jen102900:59:51.719 --> 00:59:57.039



makes a lot of wild folk magic type products, herbal remedies,103000:59:58.199 --> 01:00:04.079



a lot of other stuff, blue lotus oil. We sell herbs,103101:00:04.199 --> 01:00:07.239



tons of herbs, the really cool stuff that you can't103201:00:07.280 --> 01:00:12.039



find anywhere. As well as we do our readings Samanna Psychics.103301:00:12.039 --> 01:00:13.679



That's where if you want to book a reading with me,103401:00:13.760 --> 01:00:17.199



I do zoom reading, So Savannah Psychics dot com you103501:00:17.199 --> 01:00:20.079



can book your reading with me. If you see me103601:00:20.159 --> 01:00:22.639



on this show, tell me or put it in the notes,103701:00:22.719 --> 01:00:25.599



because I'd love to know you know where where you103801:00:25.679 --> 01:00:29.800



heard and my book in their own words. We're going103901:00:29.880 --> 01:00:32.400



to have that in the shop. I think that might104001:00:32.440 --> 01:00:34.519



be the only place we sell it to start with.104101:00:36.239 --> 01:00:38.719



We'll probably have a link online that you can purchase104201:00:38.760 --> 01:00:41.000



it as well. I will autograph a copy if you104301:00:41.039 --> 01:00:42.559



buy it. You got to let me know ahead of104401:00:42.599 --> 01:00:44.079



time that you want me to do that, or I104501:00:44.119 --> 01:00:47.199



will forget. But yeah, come to Savannah, come to see104601:00:47.239 --> 01:00:52.400



me in person, and yeah, that's that's how we're doing that.104701:00:52.440 --> 01:00:54.239



I think I think I gave you all the information104801:00:54.360 --> 01:00:59.599



Savannah Psychics everywhere, Samana Psychics, dot Com, Samana Psychics, TikTok, Instagram,104901:00:59.719 --> 01:01:03.559



the whole thing, all right, and a Mystic Apothecary. That's105001:01:03.599 --> 01:01:07.079



the apothecary side, so that would be dot com and105101:01:07.159 --> 01:01:09.159



all the all the social media as well.105201:01:09.280 --> 01:01:12.519



So all right, Brian, thank you so much for coming105301:01:12.519 --> 01:01:14.960



back on Paratruth to be Born. I'm sure we'll probably105401:01:14.960 --> 01:01:20.079



have you on throughout the show, but I'm gonna put105501:01:20.119 --> 01:01:22.079



you in limbo real quick and we'll close out the105601:01:22.119 --> 01:01:27.480



show and we'll get back with you perfect all right, folks.105701:01:27.719 --> 01:01:31.599



That is Brian Buyer's make sure you check out his105801:01:31.840 --> 01:01:37.079



book in their own words, Spirits of Savannah until next week, folks,105901:01:37.119 --> 01:01:40.159



where you will find us same time same channel. My106001:01:40.239 --> 01:01:40.880



name is Justin.106101:01:41.320 --> 01:01:42.760



I'm Eric Peace

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Brian and Jen Byers are nationally recognized psychic mediums and co-owners of Savannah Psychics, Mystic Apothecary, and Savannah Ghost Tours. Based in Savannah, Georgia, they’ve been voted Best Psychics three years in a row and are known for their powerful mediumship, compelling storytelling, and deep connection to the spirit world. Featured on AMC’s You Are Here with Colman Domingo, Brian and Jen conduct séances, spiritual readings, and paranormal investigations that bridge the gap between history and the supernatural. Together, they bring heart, humor, and a grounded authenticity to every spiritual encounter.

Brian has a new book coming out soon about the spirits that haunt Savannah.