March 4, 2026

Savannah Ghosts: Conversations With The Spirits of Americas Most Haunted City w/Brian Byers

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Savannah, Georgia, is known as one of the most haunted cities in America—but what if the spirits there actually want to talk?

In this live episode of ParaTruth: Reborn, we’re joined by Brian Byers, author of Savannah Ghosts, a deeply personal and compelling account of his direct conversations with spirits throughout Savannah. Brian shares what the dead have told him about their lives, their afterlives, and the messages they still want the living to hear.

Are these spirits trapped? Guiding? Healing? Or simply telling their stories at last? Join us live as we explore spirit communication, haunted history, and what Savannah’s ghosts reveal about life beyond the veil.

Guest Bio: Brian Byers is a nationally recognized psychic medium and co-owner of Savannah Psychics, Mystic Apothecary, and Savannah Ghost Tours. Based in Savannah, Georgia, Savannah Psychics have been voted Best Psychics three years in a row and are known for their powerful mediumship, compelling storytelling, and deep connection to the spirit world. Featured on AMC’s You Are Here with Colman Domingo, Brian conducts séances, spiritual readings, and paranormal investigations that bridge the gap between history and the supernatural.


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Coming up on Paratruth Reborn, we talked to Brian Byers

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about his conversations with ghosts in Savannah.

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Welcome, Welcome, Well do Parah Truth Truth?

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How's it going Paratruthers. Welcome to another episode of Paratruth Reborn.

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My name is Justin and I'm Eric. And today, as

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the beginning stated, we're talking to Brian Byers about his

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new book in their own words, Spirits of Savannah. Brian,

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welcome back to Pair True three Born.

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Thank you guys. It's good to see you guys again.

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Hopefully you guys are doing well. We are doing great.

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Mm hmm. I like that. Well, great is great is

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probably the better side of what you can be. So

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that's one hundred percent. So I think the biggest question,

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and we asked you know.

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Everybody, is why write this type of book or right

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this book period?

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Well I have a really great answer because now at.

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The publisher made me do it. We hear that.

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This is definitely self published. Well, there's a million Savannah

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ghost books, you know, and Jen and I we own

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you know, we own the Mystic Apothecary in Savannah, Georgia,

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and we also own Savannah Psychics we also own Savannah

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Ghost Tours, which those are the three businesses we have.

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And as we learned the tour You're ago, I developed

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it and maybe be what we wanted to be. We

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started hearing all of these stories from other ghost to

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our companies coming through and going is that. I, Oh,

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that's odd. I can't find that they're saying things and

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I can't find the information. And I'm a medium. So

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one day I'm in Right Square and I'm like hanging

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out and I can feel different energy in there, and

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I'm picking up on one of the spirits and I'm like, okay,

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I understand who this is. This is Richard Weist. So

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I'm like, let me just talk to him. Hey, did

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you guys get really hung from this tree? Matt? You know,

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I'm asking, like straight for it, like the punchline to

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the story. He says no, and I'm like, wow, that's

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wild because that's not what we've heard. Found out later

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it was a gallows. They actually we're hung from a gallows,

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not a tree. So the trees in Savannah they're really

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big and beautiful, and everyone says there's just one tree.

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They call it hanging tree. And everyone says they were

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hung there. Sure a lot of people were hung in

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that square, but they were hung by gallows. And Richard

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was one of the first, if not the first, And yeah,

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he said no, it was a gallows. How he didn't

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like to really talk about it much, but we got

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a little conversation going. I started thinking, we're going to

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have to change some of the things we've learned. And

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it took me years, you know, just sort of wandering

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around so that, you know, can I choot someone to

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talk to me, kind of get a voice, and I

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just started writing them down. And obviously when a medium

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gets words, we're not getting you know, we're not getting

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a written document that would be wonderful, that'd be amazing.

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So I had to discern what was being said and

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try to put it in their words the best they could.

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But that's why the book started. And I didn't realize

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it was going to be a book. I was really

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working on it for our tour guides and up being

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the book. So that's that's why I'm like, it's probably

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the It is the only ghost book I know where

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a medium is interpreting for the spirits, you know, in

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a city. So so it's their stories just trying to

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get it straight.

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Yeah, now, what led you into spirit communication?

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In general? You know a lot of people get led.

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I woke up when I was born and oddly have

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always spoken with different, different spiritual beings. And my mom

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figured it out early, you know, when I'm like, you know,

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a little kid. And it wasn't that I was led

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into it. It just I didn't know what was wrong.

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You know, no one ever said, oh, it's just your imagination,

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go back to bed. My mom was always well, tell

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me more, what are they saying? And I would just

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reveal more and more, and I think people started realizing

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and yeah, that's that, can't you know, that's that's not

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just like a make believe friend. They're actually really talking

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to someone and getting information. So you know, and Jen

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is like that too, my wife the same. We almost

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have the same story. We just were born a little different.

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I think everyone kind of is, but some of us are. Yeah.

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I always used a baseball analogy. You know, you can

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start a baseball team. You can be born a picture,

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but not everyone's born a picture. Sometimes you have to

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train to learn how to be a picture, you know.

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But Jen and I were born pictures, and that's just

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we've sort of done in our old life, and no

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one's ever told this not to, so it wasn't really led.

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But I think we were just not told not to,

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so we just do it. And I mean, Justin, I've

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known you for twenty five thirty years. I don't know, man,

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it's been a long time.

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It's been at least twenty close to when we started podcasting.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, back before there was no podcast and

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we were the first man we were the pioneers. But yeah,

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Justin evenknew back then. I was a little weird, you know,

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and I just knew things, you know.

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Well, that's the nice thing about getting to know you

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is not only have you become a very good friend,

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a brother, but also one of my best mentors. And

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you know, going through the spiritual awakening that I have

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gone through in the past ten years, fifteen years in

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two months, well yeah that too. You know. It's been

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one of those things where I need somebody to talk

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to because I can talk to my wife Shelly about it,

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but she has no clue about it. She doesn't understand it.

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I feel she is sensed, but she doesn't want to

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open that door. And I'm like, that's fair. Enough because

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if I wouldn't have opened that door, I probably would

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not want to either.

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So you know, some people they don't embrace it. You know,

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they go, oh my god, that freaks me out, or

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it's a little weird, or is my life going to

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change if I if I step through the doorway And

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the answer is yes, you're like, but it's not so

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bad once you get over here, you.

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Know, right, Yeah, you just gotta get used to it.

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Well.

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I think also a lot of people, at least as

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of the last you know, ten fifteen years, kind of

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base this idea of spirit communication and just mediumship, often

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like Hollywood, off of movies, and they think, oh, it's

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just going to blow up and my life's going to

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be like a mess and ruin and not be able

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to turn it off. You know, It's like, it's not

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quite that way. It's not how it winks.

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You're right, You're right, I mean, Eric, you actually hit

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on something there. Hollywood has really destroyed the whole idea

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of what really is happening. You know. I love listen.

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I'm a I used to be a movie director and

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a TV producer. I love Hollywood, I love movies, I

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love stuff like that. But man, they they take little

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kidbits that are good and then they ruin it. I

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think one of the better movies ever that shows a

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little bit of that is The Others. I think they

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did a great job in that movie. That's closer to reality,

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though it is a little dramatic. They're seance scene. That's legit, man,

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that is how that stuff flies and it is. We've

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had a lot of those experiences here in Savannah.

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So now what makes Savannah different spiritually compared to other places?

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It's just more better than other place. I'm not joking.

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Savannah is one of the only cities in the United

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States that is all here. I go, Yeah, a necropolis.

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It's like there's been so many battles, so many deaths,

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and no place to put the body. So they just

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build this city on top of dead folks. Like they

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were digging up the road two years ago on Broughton

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Street found six bodies. Man, they just there's thousands and

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thousands and thousands of people that have died here that

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never got a burial. Now do I believe that when

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we die we come back and haunt our gravesite? No? No,

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But I do believe there's a lot of unrest because

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of that. A lot of spirits that are they're not

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like whoo, They're more like, hey man, that sucks, you know,

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And I really I didn't see that coming. And battles

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are traumas. When people die from trauma, suicides and murders,

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they stick longer. I've noticed. They come through just as

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easy as anyone else, but they are little more amped,

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you know, they're a little more upset in going. That's

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not what I wanted, Undo, Undo, you know. So we

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had a lot of that here. We have the Pawnee,

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we have the Yamacros that were here first, the Spanish,

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they came in, fought the Pawnee, pushed them away. Then

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we had, of course, you know, the English Oglethorpe came

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over here to found Savannah in seventeen thirty three and

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brought a whole court of Highlanders with them and Darien

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just south of Savannah, thinking we were going to go

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to battle, and all these Scots came over with hammers

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and you know, swords, ready ready to fight, and everyone

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was peaceful. So they just drank and ate and had kids. Man,

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they just settled in. That's where our scott Irish come from.

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Our blood comes from that area. That's why Savannah has

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such a huge Saint Patrick's Day a big huge and

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a lot of the Irish here are their first slaves.

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People don't understand that we had they're the first ones

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that that came here. So Savannah has a lot of history.

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Uh so does Europe They've had even older history. The

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Savannah has a lot of history that they just decided

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to build a city on pop off and not like

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bury anyone. So we have a lot of burial grounds

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underneath McDonald's, you know what I mean, It's like, it's weird.

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Why are my fries moving by themselves?

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Who stole the nuggets? They're plugging in the numbers.

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So if you think Ghostbusters, you think Savannah.

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Oh one hundred percent. Man, you know they should have

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filmed it here, not New York. I'm just that would

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make way more sense, and it would have been a

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longer movie, maybe a trilogy. All that happened, you know,

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back to back.

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Well, now when it comes back to the book, like

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when did you realize that the spirits weren't just present

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in Savannah and around at this time, but we're actually

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building to talk and did you have to nudge anyone

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in order to get gaffstation starting.

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Yes, I had to nudge a lot, and I actually

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utilized my guide, my spirit guide, and I call him Rabbit.

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A lot of people don't know about him, and I

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know that's a weird thing to say, but very spiritual, angelic,

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high high order angel with a nickname. It looks nothing

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like a rabbit. Everyone wants to know, Oh, rabbit, how

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is he doing that? He's not that he's slightly intimidated

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and I'm kind of yeah. Times, but I had to

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utilize him to get words sometimes, so I had to

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do some things that are out of the ordinary. Most

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spirits love the talk. They want to come through, not

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men but women. But the one I thought i'd get

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them the highest was one of our loudest stories and

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Samannah about Alice Riley, one of the very first UH

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slaves that was hung. I thought I was going to

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get a lot of information from her. She hardly came

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through at all for me, probably because I'm a dude,

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and you got to be honest. People don't change a lot.

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You have to understand, you know, men hung her. She

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was you know, raped by men. She was treated horrible

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by men, beaten by men, and so why would you

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want to talk to this dude with a beer who's saying, no,

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I'm a good guy. Of course, that that's not going

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to work. So I had to use her her lover

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who came through, who was Richard, and so I got

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him to tell her story. So I had to do

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some tricks here to get this to get the book written,

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but I did get what I think is closest to

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the story. There's even one of the Keiko house where

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there's these young twins that there's no historical evidence that

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they ever existed. People are saying that's a myth. Well,

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the twins are there, so I don't know whose they

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belong to, but they seem to think they did die,

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and I think they did die in a fireplace that

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collapsed on them. It sounds horrible, but that myth came

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from somewhere, and I think there is truth to it,

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though there's no historical evidence, which you know, I can't

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say this is a history book. I can say, according

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to the voices I heard, it's a history book. So

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now I tried my best to get the story out,

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but I hate that I can't find some of this

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as historical evidence, any documents or anything about the twins.

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But there are certain stories that I go, oh, I

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thought that was a myth. Nope, it's true, but most

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of it is that's not true at all. That was

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a myth. But here's the truth, right.

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So I wanted to start out with the conversations that

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you've had with just the showman right here.

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Oh, so that's Herman Myers. He is He's a name

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that you won't hear in Savannah. Nobody really knows who

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he is anymore. Back you know, back in the early

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eighteen hundreds, everyone knew people who he was. And so

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the story is weird. How this is the reason why

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I even thought this was going to turn into a book.

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It's because of him. I had a local historian income

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through and she wanted to get a medium reading. I

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think she wanted to talk to her grandmother, I really do.

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And a lot of times when you get a media reading,

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you can't you know, pick up a phone and call

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the number of the person you want to talk to.

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It doesn't work like that. You can't conjure them. So

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there's always a lot of hope. I hope someone so

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comes through. I hope, you know, and basically you get

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who you get and you don't throw a fit. That's

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the way it works. Like i'll tell you in a minute.

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Justin So, she came in and we got interrupted by him,

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this guy, and I said, he's got an h name.

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It's like Harry or Hermann or something. And her face

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was just she went crazy with it. She was really

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She says, I don't know any Herman or Harry, and

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I said, he knows you, and you've got something of his,

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and he's excited for the world to see it. And

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she figured out she had this giant painting that she

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was having restored because somebody back in the early eighteen

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hundreds had taken a knife to it and slit the faceilken,

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and she was having her restored, and she kind of

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forgot that she was doing that, and she's like, oh

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my god. That's Herman Myers. He's the old mayor of

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Savannah back in the early eighteen hundreds. He's the guy

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that after the Civil War rebuilt Savannah and made it prosperous.

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He built the city hall downtown with a big gold dome.

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This painting is hanging in the city Hall in his

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old office, which the current mayor actually uses to hold

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council meetings and stuff, so it's crazy that he came through,

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and it was excited about the painting being restored so

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people could see his face again, as he's a narcissist

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and she didn't want her reading to be about him,

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but it really was a lot about him for the

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first fifteen minutes, and then I had to tell him

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to kind of back off. But I thought that was

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so wild that he came through. It wasn't even related

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to her. So later she had me come to city

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Hall and she showed me his big portrait how it

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was fixed. You can still see the line where it

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was slit. So while I was in there, I got

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more information about who did it, and everyone thought it

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was a political thing. And it's in my book. It's

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the last chapter. It's the Hermann Meyers chapter. It was

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a lover and she was angry at him. You know,

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he had a couple of people on the side. He

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was married, but he was also seeing a couple of

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other ladies and this one got really angry lit his painting.

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So that's the person that did it, and he was

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just glad to have it back because well, he loved himself. Yeah,

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he did a lot for commerce here in Savannah, built

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Bowl Street, made it what it is today, helped everyone

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get off their feet and get you know, tobacco stores

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and cigar stores going. He was a cigar connoisseur and

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a whiskey distiller, so he did a lot of that

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and made money off of that as well. But he's

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really the reason why I went this has got to

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be a book. You know. It's so once I got

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that down a little bit, I said, you know what,

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I'm just going to put it all together and let's

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just get it out there. You know, if people want

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to read what they're saying about Savannah, you get to

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hear their story. It's pretty cool.

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It's pretty cool.

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It's like you're hearing history directly from the source of

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his mind.

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It makes me want to go to Jerusalem. Man, right,

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I'm like, let's go talk to some of the That would.

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Be awesome, you know, that'd be super awesome.

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Yea.

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Now when it comes to because I know you just

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mentioned that you're you're kind of struggling with exactly who

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this guy was by name. You mentioned a couple of names.

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She's like, oh is it so, how do you actually

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have these conversations like do you hear these.

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People audibly intuitively?

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Tools? And how do you discern what it is they're saying?

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If you're on share love It, You're right? A wonderful question.

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And I've been trying to work on how to describe

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this to people, and I think I've gotten it down now.

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I can even use Justin as an example right now

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because there's a guy with him. Uh So, I've been

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talking with this guy behind Justin the whole time, this

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old guy all right related to Justin. Uh. I know

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he starts with an m. Let me do it like this.

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He's letting me know he's an in a short word,

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so one syllable he'll go buy a one syllable name.

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That's as far as I've gotten with him so far.

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But I know he's probably from Justin's dad's side of

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the family, so he's related.

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He's my grandfather.

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There you go, there, I go. I don't have his

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name yet, I just know it's him. So the way

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it works, I wish I could hear, I wish I

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could see them, but I know they're around and I go, oh,

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there's someone over there. So while I'm talking to you, guys,

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believe it or not. I have gotten pretty good at

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talking to them at the same time and trying to

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get two conversations going. Ned there's O, K. Sure it's

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a nick. You've got a nick or Nick that's it.

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And my my dad's name is Junior Nicholas.

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Oh wow, that's cool. That's cool. Did your grandfather go

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by nick, the one, the one the short yep? Usually yeah,

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because he's comfortable with that. Yeah, he's fine with saying

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that to me, to you, so you're not. But I

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don't know what he looks like. I know that he's

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got age on him. I know that he looks younger.

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He doesn't like the way he looked uh, so he's

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probably looking like he's in his fifties or sixties. He

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doesn't like the whole old look. So he's picky about

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the way he looks.

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Man.

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So some people are. He's one of those I want

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to look good, you know. I don't you ever meet him?

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Did you know him?

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He seems to know you, so yeah, I mean, oh yeah, Well.

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We were close to our grandpa cancel Area.

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He was the type who always wore a button down

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shirt with the slacks or something nice.

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Shapens he just wants to look good and he doesn't

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want to look he doesn't want to look old, but

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he doesn't want to look sloppy, you know what I mean.

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So he's like, I look good. I like the way

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I look.

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Just let him know I look good now. So yeah,

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he uh.

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Yeah, that were grandpa.

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Wow. Well hanging out with you guys, and so that's

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how that works. Do I get to hear them or

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see them? Know? But I'm asking him. You ever played

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a game where people right on your back, you know, yeah,

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and you try to guess what they're saying. It's a

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lot like that, but it's over here and not on

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your back. I wish it was on the back. It

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would be a lot easier. Some people will try to

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write in cursive and that's horrible. I'm just like, oh, okay,

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lots of lead sports. Right, we're doing automatic writing where

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you let them move the pencil in general. Note she

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can read their sloppy scribble and make sense of it.

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So she's over my shoulder as I'm just letting it roll.

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And when they moved that pencil around, which is really weird.

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It's a really weird experience. If it's not print we're screwed.

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But luckily Jen can go that looks like cursive. Help

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help say that looks like this. And there's normally someone

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at the table in the salance that goes, I know

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who that is, you know, or they'll draw a picture.

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You know, that's actually cool, but it is. That's the

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only time you ever get to see it as like

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an automatic writing. Other than that, I'm doing it out

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here and just trying to get the right sound. I

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will mix up g's and j's, and I will mix

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if they're jazz, and I'll mix up thhs and s.

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I've noticed so someone might say thissh and they're trying

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to say fish, and I'm like, is it a tch

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or F I can't tell they feel the same. And

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I don't know how to explain how I hear it

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because I'm not hearing it. So but it's a great question, Eric,

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I mean, that is a happy really, it's just an

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odd thing. You get used to doing it over time.

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It's like throwing a baseball, and you get used to

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pitching a fastball over a crew ball. You just know

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the feeling and the way it tastes. I don't know

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that sounds weird. But I know what the words tastes

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like a bus, so I.

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Mean it makes complete sense. I can't tell you how

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many kinds have been asked how I do something that

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I try to explain it and you can't.

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It's like I just I just do Yah.

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You know that sense.

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It's hard to crib it if you can't describe it,

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so they have kind of feel it out. Yeah, he's

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definitely hangs out with you guys quite a bit. He

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must like the show.

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He's always one of our biggest supporters for sure, Like

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in Mineral in Life, he.

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Listens, he thinks it's great. So that's pretty cool. Man.

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You guys are lucky.

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's from his line that we

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both have gotten our sensitivity from. So it doesn't surprise

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me that he's around. He actually came to me years

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ago when I was having difficulties with my ex girlfriend

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and he can't. I was just distraught and he's like,

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it's gonna be okay, kiddo. When he said kiddo, I

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knew who it was.

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That's wild. That's wonderful. That's when you know everything's fine.

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Now doing this book, were there any messages out or

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stories that surprised you or even unsettled you at all.

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Oh that's a good question. Unsettled, no, I had. I

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have explored Savanna quite a bit, got to connect with

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a lot of spirits, some of them I still don't

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know their names. We even have some upstairs and are

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apothecary that I even write about on there's a chapter

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on the Mystic Pathecary. Three eleven West Brotton Street. We

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had a fire up there, and there's some gentlemen that

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were sleeping up there and did not get out. The

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only way out, because we're on the third floor is

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a ladder in the middle, which the fire blocked them

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off from the ladder and they suffocated, you know, and

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then they burned. I don't think that they had to

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experience the the burn part. They seem fine with the

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whole thing. But it's cool to get more information. One

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of the guys we know, he came through in a silence.

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His name is Moses, and very cool, very cool guy,

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very nice. He just sort of hangs out with Jen

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in the back on which is pretty funny. But our

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friends Chris and Megan, they owned the Savanna Paranormal Museum

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down the street. When we first met them. We were

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just talking and I told Chris that, you know, we've

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got a guy that used to deliver grain and cotton

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from River Street, which is only three blocks away from

460
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us up to mister Kypothecary. His name is Moses. And

461
00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:51.119
Chris was like what because he had an experience at

462
00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:57.039
Moon River the brewery with a guy named Moses that

463
00:26:57.160 --> 00:27:01.799
overwhelmed them, saying the same design. He said, he looks

464
00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:04.000
just like the guy I was describing. He was freaked

465
00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:07.279
out because he's like, you must be real because I

466
00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:11.559
experienced that also. So our Moses guy has been in

467
00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:14.359
and out of buildings all over Savannah downtown in that

468
00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:19.359
little block three or four block area delivering goods. So

469
00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:23.599
he feels very comfortable in our area. But it's cool

470
00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:26.480
to get that information from Chris, going, Wow, you had

471
00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:28.880
the same guy. And even Megan, his wife, was like,

472
00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:32.400
I can't believe it because she was with Chris during

473
00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:35.920
that and actually helped him because Chris started to black out.

474
00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:40.480
Was not used to having that type of spiritual encounter,

475
00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:44.480
and so she helped him. But you know, we had

476
00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:46.759
just met him. It was like the first day we met,

477
00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:50.000
so they were a little freaked out that. I'm like,

478
00:27:50.119 --> 00:27:54.160
you're you're Moses lives upstairs from us man, So you know,

479
00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:56.119
he's like, well, that'd be cool to meet him again,

480
00:27:56.240 --> 00:27:58.559
you know. So I think he's cool now with wanting

481
00:27:58.640 --> 00:27:59.039
to do that.

482
00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:05.000
But yeah, So when you talk to so many different spirits, like,

483
00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:09.319
do you find a lot of reoccurring personalities or types

484
00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:11.640
of spirits even in the Sapana area.

485
00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:18.119
You know, in the Savannah area there's not as many

486
00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:24.599
old spirits anymore. So you know, I can say the

487
00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:28.039
personalities don't change much. Like I can tell you men

488
00:28:28.359 --> 00:28:30.640
don't like to talk much. You know, if we get

489
00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:34.279
a guy that comes into a reading, I'm always going,

490
00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:36.599
oh great, that's a guy. You know. Even if the

491
00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:38.640
person wants a guy to come through, they're like, oh,

492
00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:41.240
guy's coming through. I'm like, yes, there's a male energy here.

493
00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:44.440
I can feel them. They're excited, and I'm feeling disappointed

494
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:47.799
because men are like, they don't change a lot when

495
00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:50.920
they cross over. People don't change a lot when you

496
00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:54.400
cross If you're if you're like I don't like to

497
00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:57.039
share my feelings or I don't like to talk much.

498
00:28:57.240 --> 00:28:59.759
I just like to pay attention and listen, which a

499
00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:02.759
lot of men, like sixty percent of men are like them,

500
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:05.480
so I know there's a high chance that they're not

501
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:08.759
going to say a lot and my client might be disappointed. However,

502
00:29:09.960 --> 00:29:12.400
women like to talk a lot more and they like

503
00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:15.000
to share their details, and I get excited, Oh we've

504
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:17.839
got a woman. This is great. So those styles of

505
00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:23.839
personalities all throughout Savannah don't change much. But I've noticed

506
00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:29.079
the older spirits don't come through as often as you know.

507
00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:32.079
And this is going to sound crazy like celebrities that

508
00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:35.559
don't even live in Savannah that No, I'm a medium

509
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:40.279
show up. And we've had some weird moments guys, like

510
00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:43.039
the same day O. J. Simpson died, he came through

511
00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:45.519
in a seance where we didn't know he died. That day.

512
00:29:46.359 --> 00:29:48.839
We had the same thing with the drummer from Food Fighters.

513
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:51.039
I mean, Jen and I are just trying to do

514
00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:53.039
our thing for a group of people that want to

515
00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:56.119
talk to their relatives in a seance setting and a

516
00:29:56.240 --> 00:29:58.839
sayan setting. You're opening up for everyone. So that's what

517
00:29:58.880 --> 00:30:00.680
I do when I'm just walking down the street, I

518
00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:03.480
just try to open up and feel what can I feel.

519
00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:06.519
We get a lot of new folk that aren't even

520
00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:09.440
from here that you know, Oh you're a medium. I

521
00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:13.160
wanted to deliver a message or and they do. They

522
00:30:13.200 --> 00:30:16.720
come through very loud and clear. But there's some people

523
00:30:16.759 --> 00:30:18.799
that just were in car accidents, you know, I like

524
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:21.880
in the seventies and eighties that come through there. It's

525
00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:24.960
just regular folk, you know. But that's not a book

526
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:26.599
people want to read about. It is a guy named

527
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:31.839
Jeff Taylor, you know, that used to work at Walgreens. Well,

528
00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:34.119
we don't care about that as much as the history

529
00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:37.240
of Savannah. So that's why I knew that was a

530
00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:41.200
good point. If I could get enough spiritual interaction, I

531
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:44.319
could build a book. There's still like four chapters I

532
00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:47.799
didn't add because I never got enough information. You know,

533
00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:50.559
I got enough to say, there's a guy there in

534
00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:52.240
the cemetery. I don't know who it is.

535
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:52.640
You know.

536
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:54.640
That's not a good chapter.

537
00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:57.839
But now is that something though that you might continue

538
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:00.599
to work on and then the book?

539
00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:03.960
Yeah, do a second edition. If I can get some

540
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:06.960
more information, I will totally feed it into that and

541
00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:10.359
we'll do a second edition, definitely. But I'm not going

542
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:12.000
to do a whole other book. I don't like to

543
00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:17.480
have volume two it's the same book, same concept. But yeah,

544
00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:19.480
if I get more information, that'd be great. And there's

545
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:22.480
still a couple I'm hoping I can get more info on.

546
00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:32.319
Yeah, now do spirits express unfinished business or something else entirely,

547
00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:37.240
because you know, the common thread that people think of

548
00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:40.359
is and again this is because of pop culture that

549
00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:43.599
spirits are here because of unfinished business.

550
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:49.359
Quote unquote, no, no, misnomer, that's not true. However, like

551
00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:52.839
today had a medium reading. I know we don't divulge

552
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:57.400
too much information, but a mail did come through Brazen

553
00:31:58.119 --> 00:32:01.559
with a lot of push for this one lady and

554
00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:05.680
they were all three sisters sitting there today and said,

555
00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:10.079
you need to tell him to get off his ass,

556
00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:15.039
stop wasting time, and stop being hypnotized by that junk

557
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:19.079
and move forward and just get out and be something.

558
00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:23.279
And the lady's laughing and she goes, that is my dad,

559
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:26.880
and that is I know, that's for my brother. I

560
00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:30.599
has to tell him because he is he's not doing

561
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:32.799
anything with his life. And my dad hated that he

562
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:37.680
played video games, so I'm like he was and that's

563
00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:39.880
all he said. And then it was like check please

564
00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:43.759
he was out Like that was it was like Irish

565
00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:45.680
goodbye if I've ever seen. And there was like not

566
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:48.079
a lot of hey, I love you, but now it

567
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:50.599
was like tell them to get off his butt and change.

568
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:53.759
And you know, I'm like, she's like, oh my god,

569
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:56.240
I know who that is. And I'm like, good because

570
00:32:56.359 --> 00:33:00.200
that's the message. So is that unfinished business. No, that's

571
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:04.000
just them being adeducated that their family line is not

572
00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:08.240
being what they could be. Right and oh and he

573
00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:11.079
did throw in there this thing is real and I

574
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:15.799
think he was talking about judgment. So like, dude, that's

575
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:21.920
a big statement. Yeah, I don't know. So I don't

576
00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:24.599
they know. They don't stick around for that. They stick around,

577
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:31.160
you know, like uh some spirits. Imagine. Imagine you're a farmer. Okay,

578
00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:34.240
you work every day of your life on this farm,

579
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:39.240
raising chickens and and uh you know, cattle and all

580
00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:41.880
that stuff. Then you go to sleep one night and

581
00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:47.079
you don't wake up. Well, that's your farm and those

582
00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:49.759
of your family that are still there and they're struggling

583
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:53.240
to run it. And so you're not going to go well,

584
00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:58.200
tough luck. I'll see. I'm on the other side. A

585
00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:00.680
lot of people go, well, what can I do? What

586
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:03.079
can I do? And this is my farm man. I

587
00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:05.160
don't want to see it fall apart. I really worked hard.

588
00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:08.159
I like this place. I love my family. I feel

589
00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:10.599
bad that I am not here to actually physically do

590
00:34:11.079 --> 00:34:14.559
so they'll stick around thinking they're trying to help, and

591
00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:17.280
there's not a lot they can do. But you ever

592
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:18.800
feel like you don't want to get out of bed?

593
00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:20.639
I know you guys, know, both of you know exactly

594
00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:23.800
what I'm talking about. I know I know Eric justin.

595
00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:25.320
I know you do. But I can tell you Eric,

596
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:30.199
some days getting out of bed. Yeah, I listen, brother,

597
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:34.119
I feel it, man, when you are laying there going

598
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:36.800
I don't feel like it. I'm just not going to.

599
00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:38.960
I think I'm gonna call him sick. And all of

600
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:43.320
a sudden, you get this push. It's almost like there's

601
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:47.679
a weird whisper that says, look, just get up, get up.

602
00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:49.760
I know you don't want to. I know you're not

603
00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:53.119
looking forward to it. Get in the shower, brush your tease,

604
00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:55.480
do this. And then the next thing you're out and

605
00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:59.360
you're going what got me up? What changed my mind?

606
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:04.119
You got folk yelling at you, going, no, sir, I'm

607
00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:07.039
not going to let you just lay around and feel bad,

608
00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:11.000
get off your ass, get out there. And that's that's

609
00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:13.440
why they're here. And that's that's what you're hearing. Are

610
00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:16.920
people that have crossed over, pushing you out, making sure

611
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:20.280
that you're the best you you can be. They know

612
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:25.599
that you're looking for fulfillment anyway. Your family knows. They're

613
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:28.679
not omnipotent. They don't know everything about you, but they

614
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:31.960
know enough that they can. You ever see you know,

615
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:36.519
Christmas Carol, the ghost of Christmas Present. They're in your house,

616
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:39.480
you know, they see what you're doing right now. They're going,

617
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:43.679
like mister Nick over here watching, going, I love this,

618
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:46.400
this is great. He loves this stuff. I think it's awesome.

619
00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:50.320
They will not let you feel depressed. They will not

620
00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:52.960
feel let you feel melancholy. They don't want you to.

621
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:56.480
And you'll fight it. I know, Eric does. You don't

622
00:35:56.480 --> 00:35:57.400
fight it, going.

623
00:35:57.840 --> 00:36:00.840
No, leave me alone. I don't want to get but

624
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:02.719
you do. And when you do, you're like, you're glad

625
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:05.920
you did, you know? And that makes them smile. So

626
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:08.360
that's not necessarily unfinished business.

627
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:13.920
They just feel like they're helping and they will encourage

628
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:18.960
you and push you and uh, it's pretty it's pretty awesome. You, now,

629
00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:22.320
there are all there are also there are other spiritual

630
00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:24.559
beings that do the opposite, but I don't want to

631
00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:26.559
get into that pretty much. That's kind of the weird

632
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:30.800
whole other ballgame, because there are a lot of different

633
00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:33.639
beings that we don't even understand. Some of them are

634
00:36:33.679 --> 00:36:34.639
just not very cool.

635
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:39.039
Yeah, right, Well, now, so with all of the stories

636
00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:42.360
that you've heard and you've talked to the spirits about,

637
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:46.599
was there any particular story that was just like emotionally

638
00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:48.360
affected you heapily?

639
00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:53.400
Oh, well, that's a heavy duty one. There might be

640
00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:57.119
one that's not even in my book. There's been quite

641
00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:03.840
a few that I feel bad about, and I will

642
00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:08.960
tell you there's one. Actually the story doesn't get told

643
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:14.440
the right way, but it is definitely a younger girl

644
00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:17.679
that was enslaved here, that was treated really, really bad.

645
00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:20.159
And I know you hear all the stories and we

646
00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:22.440
all think, oh, they're all treated bad. Well they are,

647
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:24.800
they are. I mean, for the most part, you know,

648
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:27.480
there's like ten percent that actually got very lucky, and

649
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:33.599
we're in a good family that cared. But a servent

650
00:37:33.639 --> 00:37:38.159
try is abuse, and there's a lot of abuse that happens,

651
00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:43.079
and there's some things where girls have given birth after

652
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:48.599
being raped, where the child is dead and they have

653
00:37:48.639 --> 00:37:50.719
to watch that, they have to experience that child being

654
00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:52.719
taken away and being killed, and it makes them want

655
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:55.239
to commit suicide, but they can't because no one lets them.

656
00:37:55.800 --> 00:37:57.440
So they have to live with this, and then they

657
00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:01.440
get pregnant again and they're not what they're doing, and

658
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:03.719
then they have to know that child while she's pregnant

659
00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:07.960
is going to be murdered because they don't want they

660
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:12.400
don't want that in their family. So there's stories like that,

661
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:14.679
and they're all over, man, it's not just Savannah. They're

662
00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:17.639
all over. But when I get a story like that,

663
00:38:19.159 --> 00:38:22.559
it's moving. I've even had some very recent stories just

664
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:27.840
from locals that come in that it's just not it's unfair.

665
00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:31.880
It's just unfair, and so that does I'm a very

666
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:38.360
sensitive person, and I just I try to I have

667
00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:41.199
to separate myself when I'm doing reading that. My eyes

668
00:38:41.239 --> 00:38:43.280
will get all watery and I'll try not to be.

669
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:48.599
But there's a lot of stories here that are just rough,

670
00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:51.800
and I don't think they ever are No one will

671
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:54.800
really ever understand unless you were in that person's shoes,

672
00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:58.199
understanding how bad that is, but we can say the

673
00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:02.920
story like the girl that just kept watching her children die,

674
00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:06.639
knowing that they're in her belly and they're going to die.

675
00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:11.360
You know, it's like horrible and horrible, but saying it

676
00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:14.840
is one thing. Experiencing it and feeling their feelings, which

677
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:17.679
is another thing that happens when you're doing when you're

678
00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:22.000
communicating with them, I'm just starting their feelings about things,

679
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:25.440
so I can pick up on that. And a lot

680
00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:27.679
of times it's pretty emotional, and I can get a

681
00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:30.760
little thrown up in ruin my day pretty much. But yep,

682
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:34.639
I never imagine. Yeah, there's a lot of that. But

683
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:36.639
I think a lot of really good meeting rooms would

684
00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:39.039
tell you the same thing. It's hard, and you got

685
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:42.079
to separate. Do you got to separate? Yeah?

686
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:46.159
I mean, I mean I'm very empathic, so a lot

687
00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:49.440
of times it's very hard to understand what emotions are

688
00:39:49.480 --> 00:39:54.000
my own and what are somebody else's or spirits.

689
00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:58.480
Yeah, it's hard, man, it's hard. Yeah.

690
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:01.599
The last guest we had it was about Taro and

691
00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:07.159
we were talking about you know, I always keep myself open,

692
00:40:08.840 --> 00:40:13.519
and that's not necessarily healthy, but I'm worried about missing something,

693
00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:17.599
so I don't want to turn it off, but then

694
00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:20.519
my sleep is disrupted because I don't.

695
00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:27.920
So yeah, yeah, that'll that'll mess with you right there. Yeah, yeah,

696
00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:33.039
being empathic. My wife is so empathic that if someone

697
00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:36.880
isn't feeling well, she feels sick, it's just like and

698
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:39.599
they don't even have to tell her. She'll say, wow,

699
00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:41.360
my throat is hurting, and someone will go, well, I've

700
00:40:41.360 --> 00:40:44.360
got to sore throat. That's weird or you know, it

701
00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:46.760
happens all and then they leave, and then she feels better.

702
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:49.519
She's like, oh, that wasn't even me. I was feeling

703
00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:53.119
one of my kids. Yeah, pretty wild.

704
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:59.719
Now there's always gonna be those skeptics out there. How

705
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:03.719
do you friends respond to skeptics who say that this

706
00:41:03.800 --> 00:41:07.599
is like imagine subconscious, you know, it's it's all in

707
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:11.559
your head, compared to those that are true believers.

708
00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:17.239
Right. So, for me, my favorite people for readings are

709
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:22.199
newbies and skeptics. I love boff. I build a database

710
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:24.960
of things I can say, well, I'm sitting there with

711
00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:28.400
them and I'm really trying to go for the impressive.

712
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:33.320
So and I'll tell you why, and let's just be honest.

713
00:41:33.800 --> 00:41:36.079
Even Eric and justin, both of you guys, even though

714
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:38.440
Justin I know you're you're tied in. Man, I know

715
00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:44.039
you are. You're a skeptic. We're all skeptics. We all

716
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:45.280
were born this way.

717
00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:48.480
I think when it comes to the paranormal we kind

718
00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:50.079
of have to be to a next time.

719
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:53.559
Well, you should be. You should be. You should read

720
00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:57.480
into everything, you should question everything. The Bible says to

721
00:41:57.519 --> 00:41:59.880
do this. I mean it's if you don't, then you're

722
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:04.760
missing a lot of really wild stuff. So skeptics are great.

723
00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:09.440
We should be. I think that's beautiful close minded. That's

724
00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:11.400
a whole of the ball game. And so if you're

725
00:42:11.400 --> 00:42:13.519
going to be close minded, first off, a whyle are

726
00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:17.119
You're getting a reading with me? You know, so you're

727
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:19.920
gonna test me? Well, that happens a lot. I've even

728
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:23.400
had some people go, there's no way you know that,

729
00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:27.079
Like it's impossible for you to know that. You must

730
00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:29.840
have googled me and or you must try to look

731
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:33.320
me up. And I'm like, Quinn, you know, just you

732
00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:37.400
know my schedule, I'm blocked out from nine to nine.

733
00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:40.599
I just got done doing my last reading at nine

734
00:42:40.639 --> 00:42:42.800
o'clock and we came home and here I am so,

735
00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:46.880
I got no time to memory. I can't memories. I mean,

736
00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:50.559
and justin you know this, I have a bad memory.

737
00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:54.320
There's just no way I forget, you know, my keys,

738
00:42:54.400 --> 00:42:57.440
I forget things. I'm old now, and that's even worse.

739
00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:00.679
But I love skeptics because what I try to do

740
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:02.400
when I'm doing a reading with him is build the

741
00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:07.480
database while we're connecting, Like even with you guys, I'm

742
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:11.519
mister Nick here. I got another thing of information from

743
00:43:11.559 --> 00:43:14.000
him earlier, and I'm just in case I need it,

744
00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:16.679
in case someone goes, how do you know that's Nick?

745
00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:19.599
You just said am well, and you said ned you know,

746
00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:22.880
so I'm guessing one syllable name is trying to make

747
00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:25.719
it go faster. And you know, he's born born in

748
00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:31.519
the first year of the of the of the of

749
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:33.960
the year, which would be January. He's been either born

750
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:36.280
in January or he died in January. It's one of

751
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:40.760
the two, but that's his birth year. And we we

752
00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:43.400
were born into the world over here and then we

753
00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:47.400
crossed over, which is another birthday, so they could be both.

754
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:49.639
But I know I got January out of them, which

755
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:52.400
is the first first year or first month of the year.

756
00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:56.320
So so I'm constantly trying to build things. So if

757
00:43:56.360 --> 00:43:59.519
someone wants a little more information, I can say, well,

758
00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:02.960
their favorite color is this, or whatever information I can

759
00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:06.719
get from them, that would be evidential. But really what

760
00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:09.480
it comes down to for me and skeptics, I love them.

761
00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:12.320
I think they're my favorite people because I like watching

762
00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:18.320
a skeptic go damn, all right, that's wild coincidence. I

763
00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:21.519
love that. A lot of coincidence. Yeah, yeah, it's a

764
00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:24.559
lot of coincidences. You know. I think if we have

765
00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:27.960
too many coincidences, it's not a coincidence, right, you know,

766
00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:32.920
how many does it take to not be odd and coincidental?

767
00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:36.440
But I like him because they do push me to

768
00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:39.840
be sharper and to try and be a lot sharper.

769
00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:45.920
It's hard, Like Eric's a little harder to read, you know.

770
00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:50.679
It's not that he's closed. He's private. He's very open,

771
00:44:50.840 --> 00:44:53.519
but he's very private. So I would know if you

772
00:44:53.559 --> 00:44:55.400
and I were to actually sit down and do a reading,

773
00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:58.079
I would do better job one on one with you

774
00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:02.480
wanting to be read, you know, But I do you know,

775
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:05.719
I got the privacy fences on him, justin you're an

776
00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:07.840
open book. You always have Ben since day one. You're

777
00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:11.119
just like, here's me, you know, you know, here's my heart.

778
00:45:11.199 --> 00:45:14.119
You can hurt me, and people do You're just like

779
00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:18.599
out that hurts? Why do I keep doing that? But

780
00:45:18.679 --> 00:45:22.679
I do like skeptics. I don't really have a you know,

781
00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:26.320
any kind of a rebuttal for them. I just I

782
00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:29.800
enjoy them. I like trying to cone me better for them.

783
00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:32.159
So I would say, bring it on, you know, let's

784
00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:34.480
let's have a little skepticism and let's see if I

785
00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:36.719
can't get you something that would blow your mind. You know.

786
00:45:38.159 --> 00:45:41.840
I did that just yesterday without reading, which was really

787
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:45.000
just I didn't even know. Actually it was even before

788
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:47.000
they even did the reading. They had just come up

789
00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:49.880
and I had said five things really quick to this

790
00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:52.000
guy before he went to the bathroom, and he went,

791
00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:55.119
how do you know that? And I didn't know what

792
00:45:55.159 --> 00:45:57.159
he was talking about. After the reading, he said, let

793
00:45:57.239 --> 00:45:59.760
me tell you what you said before we even did

794
00:45:59.800 --> 00:46:03.679
the eating, because it's this whole new thing, and uh,

795
00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:06.400
it's pretty wild because I was like, I didn't I

796
00:46:06.440 --> 00:46:10.280
wasn't even trying. I'm just staying stuff.

797
00:46:11.960 --> 00:46:16.519
My favorite like, yeah, no, skeptic. I love being skeptic,

798
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:18.400
and it's like a lot of my friends right into

799
00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:20.880
the paranormal like or even newbies into the paraglem you know,

800
00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:23.440
they're they're always mentioning stuff to me and bringing up

801
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:25.519
questions that they're saying, oh, I witness this and that,

802
00:46:25.679 --> 00:46:28.119
and then I just keep questioning them, questioning them, questioning them,

803
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:30.280
and they get to a point and they're like, I

804
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:33.079
thought we believed this stuff. It's like, all I do

805
00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:36.840
you did to me? Well, you're telling it.

806
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:40.719
But it's good to get all the information. And it's

807
00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:42.920
like did you check this? Did you look at this?

808
00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:47.760
Where was the camera? Really? You know, and then you know,

809
00:46:48.199 --> 00:46:51.920
justin knows back in the day, the ghost Hunters team,

810
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:54.679
they would send me stuff to try and because I

811
00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:58.280
was in the After Effects, Oh my battery slow wew uh,

812
00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:01.000
they would try and have me bunket. So I would

813
00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:03.519
try to recreate it in After Effects and some other

814
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:07.360
programs to see if I could mimic what that looks like.

815
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:11.280
And uh, yeah, I think it's healthy, very health healthy

816
00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:13.480
to be a skeptic. Yeah.

817
00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:15.880
But now, so what would you say to someone who

818
00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:19.800
is afraid to believe but wants to believe.

819
00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:28.719
Who's afraid to believe but wants to believe. That's weird,

820
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:33.480
that's a very interesting person. They would be afraid. I

821
00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:36.199
would need to know why they're fearful, Like, what are

822
00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:39.119
they afraid of? Is that they're life changing? I mean

823
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:39.840
I would get that.

824
00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:45.159
I think so in my experience or even people that

825
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:49.079
we've talked to, uh, just you know, throughout this whole

826
00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:53.199
podcast life of ours, I know we both encounter people

827
00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:56.599
who are interested, who who like they want to believe,

828
00:47:56.639 --> 00:47:58.920
they're afraid that if they do believe, then they open

829
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:01.519
this door. In that door, could we do something very negative?

830
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:04.000
You can need to something, But again it's back to you.

831
00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:08.679
I would tell them negative is relative. I mean we

832
00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:10.960
have You could walk out the door and get hit

833
00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:13.519
by a car, or you could get stabbed by somebody,

834
00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:16.039
or ice might show up and throw you into some

835
00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:20.239
weird alligator prison. I don't know. Yeah, there's negativity everywhere.

836
00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:23.519
The spiritual world is also like that. There, Sure there

837
00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:27.559
is that, but is it everywhere? No. Now, the majority

838
00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:30.320
of what happens here is not negative at all. And

839
00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:32.639
when it is negative, you can kind of feel it

840
00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:34.199
and see it and go, oh, I don't want to

841
00:48:34.199 --> 00:48:37.559
do that. So, I mean we've had readings where we've

842
00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:40.960
had an unwonted spiritual being come through and start writing

843
00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:44.000
square words and we go, oh, we got to close

844
00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:47.280
the circle and start again, get them out of here,

845
00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:49.599
clean it and say we don't want that, we don't

846
00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:52.000
want foul language. We on the one good folk. So

847
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:54.400
but you can kick them out, you know.

848
00:48:55.880 --> 00:49:03.639
Yeah, Now what message or message jizz do spirits motes

849
00:49:03.679 --> 00:49:05.159
want living to hear?

850
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:05.679
Like?

851
00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:14.239
In general, first thing always I'm okay. That's like almost

852
00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:17.559
every time tell them I'm okay, I'm fine because they're

853
00:49:17.599 --> 00:49:21.000
worried about them, because they're sad because they're gone. So

854
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:23.599
that's the first thing. And then the second thing I

855
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:28.960
noticed a lot of is it's either I had no idea,

856
00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:33.360
but this is real. We're actually over here, We're actually okay,

857
00:49:33.480 --> 00:49:36.840
we keep going. You know, it's the excitement you know

858
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:41.199
of this is a real thing. You know people that

859
00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:44.360
were atheists that cross that were going, holy crap, here

860
00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:49.880
we are. This is cool. It's normally very positive. The

861
00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:51.880
you know, the big one, The big one I get

862
00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:54.719
a lot of, especially if it's someone younger that crosses,

863
00:49:56.159 --> 00:50:01.840
is not to feel guilty, don't feel bad, knows let

864
00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:04.159
go of that because I don't care. It's fine, and

865
00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:06.519
I don't care about my stuff, and it doesn't matter

866
00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:08.800
who has it. I don't care. I don't care about

867
00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:11.800
the farm, I don't care about the house. It's okay,

868
00:50:11.960 --> 00:50:13.960
do whatever you want. I don't care. I don't I'm

869
00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:15.880
not there anymore. It's not mine. You can do whatever

870
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:19.280
you want. A lot of that is the general upfront

871
00:50:19.320 --> 00:50:21.920
messages I get over and over and over, and they're out.

872
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:25.199
They're almost like to me, it's like, well, yeah, of

873
00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:27.320
course you're going to say I'm okay, you know, but

874
00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:29.880
that's what they want to say. They're really excited to

875
00:50:29.960 --> 00:50:33.159
say that. So I have to be understanding of the

876
00:50:33.239 --> 00:50:36.239
spirit that's wanting to relate the message because they're very

877
00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:39.840
sincere and excited. And I'm bored because I've done this

878
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:43.679
for so long, so I might come across as very

879
00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:47.559
nonchalant by the way. They're okay and my client's crying

880
00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:50.840
and the spirit's excited. Tell them I'm really fine, not

881
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:53.519
to cry. I don't want to see you crash. And

882
00:50:53.599 --> 00:50:56.000
I'm saying these things and they're like wow, really, and

883
00:50:56.039 --> 00:50:59.519
I'm like, yeah, well, you're not acting all. I hear

884
00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:01.800
it every day you hear it every day, so I

885
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:04.599
have to remember, I've got to look I gotta I

886
00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:08.280
have to act surprised sometimes too, and I would sometimes

887
00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:11.039
I'll pretend to go, oh my god, they're fine, you know,

888
00:51:11.320 --> 00:51:11.599
and it.

889
00:51:11.599 --> 00:51:12.559
Makes them feel better.

890
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:15.199
I know that sounds terrible, but you do it every day,

891
00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:18.719
and every day it's the same story. So that's the messages.

892
00:51:18.760 --> 00:51:21.400
I'm okay, don't feel guilty, and I don't need my stuff.

893
00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:24.920
Yeah, you know, we took a break from the paranormal.

894
00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:26.920
It's the same stuff.

895
00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:30.320
Every week. It is it is, And you go, how

896
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:34.000
do I make this different and exciting? Well, there are

897
00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:37.519
exciting elements happen every day, but a lot of it

898
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:41.760
is repeat, you know, and go, yeah, everyone's pretty much

899
00:51:41.840 --> 00:51:44.039
the same. Every person is pretty much the same. Even

900
00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:46.920
when we crossed. We don't change a lot. I like

901
00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:49.199
the guy that came through today. He was really cold

902
00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:51.320
and directed, and they were like, well, he was a

903
00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:55.519
colonel in the army, and I'm like, oh, well, okay,

904
00:51:56.400 --> 00:52:00.320
tell him this, just get off his ass. And I'm like, okay,

905
00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:03.159
it's funny. You could feel it, and I like that

906
00:52:03.239 --> 00:52:06.239
because I go, well, that's a different message. That's a little.

907
00:52:06.360 --> 00:52:09.519
That's a little abrasive. Okay, there's no love in that,

908
00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:12.559
but there is love. It's tough love. Right.

909
00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:18.760
So now you've been open as spiritually since you were

910
00:52:18.800 --> 00:52:23.239
a kid, you'd always had these voices, these people talking

911
00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:28.199
to you, coming to you spiritually. Right, How has your

912
00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:33.119
view on death shaped over your lifespan so far?

913
00:52:33.960 --> 00:52:39.760
There's no death? I mean, yeah, you know, even when

914
00:52:39.800 --> 00:52:42.119
I was younger, I'm cool with it. You know, it's

915
00:52:42.239 --> 00:52:45.800
like I know that this is fine. So but how

916
00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:49.000
do you tell everyone else that you know? You can't?

917
00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:53.320
So everyone's scared when they die. And I've you know,

918
00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:56.119
I've kind of been with people as they cross over,

919
00:52:57.159 --> 00:53:00.760
and it's amazing what they experience. You know, a lot

920
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:03.480
of times they go, oh my god, he's selling cells here,

921
00:53:03.519 --> 00:53:06.880
and I'm like, there we go. You see them, wonderful,

922
00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:10.079
I feel them, this is great, we're doing this together.

923
00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:24.440
And then three hours later they stop breathing and they're happy. Thanks. Huh. Yeah, well, well.

924
00:53:26.519 --> 00:53:38.960
He's switching over, so we'll give him a minute.

925
00:53:38.880 --> 00:53:44.679
Yah. Well, don't need to give dead air here, I suppose.

926
00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:49.679
Sorry, guys, what are what are some of your thoughts

927
00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:50.400
so far on this?

928
00:53:51.119 --> 00:53:52.760
No? I mean it makes sense, and again it lines

929
00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:54.880
up with a lot of what we you know, what

930
00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:57.920
we've learned over the years talking to various individuals who

931
00:53:58.039 --> 00:54:01.960
are psychonic videos uh, we speak to spirits in general,

932
00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:04.079
but it's also a lot of what you've been talking

933
00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:07.679
about on your own spiritual journey as well. Just how

934
00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:12.400
especially like the way that Brian describes how he receives messages,

935
00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:16.360
I think was actually very very well done, because that's

936
00:54:16.400 --> 00:54:17.960
something that a lot of people can't do. And I

937
00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:19.760
think he kind of hit the nail on the head

938
00:54:19.760 --> 00:54:21.960
in his explanation, because at least it made sense to me,

939
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:26.239
you know, and I kind of get it too, like it.

940
00:54:26.320 --> 00:54:31.199
There's always those things that we do or that we

941
00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:34.760
you know, I guess that we do that that just

942
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:36.840
makes sense to us, or things that we understand that

943
00:54:36.920 --> 00:54:38.320
just makes sense to us, but when we try to

944
00:54:38.360 --> 00:54:41.280
explain it to somebody else, you know, it just doesn't work.

945
00:54:43.280 --> 00:54:49.639
There he is, Okay, so my battery died? So nice, right,

946
00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:53.760
isn't that just Actually I should have said something even cooler.

947
00:54:56.800 --> 00:55:05.119
Yeah, maybe he's not real, Maybe he's as well.

948
00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:10.559
It's a glitch. You'll be talking to someone else the

949
00:55:10.559 --> 00:55:12.679
whole time. He's just now calling it. He forgot it

950
00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:15.119
was at eleven or at ten eleven?

951
00:55:15.800 --> 00:55:19.639
Okay, so uh yeah, battery died. I should have said

952
00:55:19.639 --> 00:55:23.039
something cooler, like, yeah, you know, the spirits were angry

953
00:55:23.079 --> 00:55:28.400
with me and they so where were we? I don't

954
00:55:28.679 --> 00:55:30.480
I don't remember. Yeah.

955
00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:35.760
Oh has the word changed? How you feel about that? Basically?

956
00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:42.280
Oh yeah? So no, uh death, I'm okay with it.

957
00:55:43.079 --> 00:55:45.400
I know that this actually is better. On the other side,

958
00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:48.320
my wife and Eric kind of excited about what happens next.

959
00:55:48.320 --> 00:55:51.519
So yeah, I know that sounds weird to tell people,

960
00:55:51.559 --> 00:55:54.920
but that is that's real, that's authentic, you know.

961
00:55:55.519 --> 00:55:59.880
Yeah, I mean, I think it's better in my opinions.

962
00:55:59.880 --> 00:56:01.639
But to have something like that to look forward to

963
00:56:01.800 --> 00:56:03.960
rather than fear it, you know, like so many people do.

964
00:56:05.239 --> 00:56:07.320
Everyone nowadays is like I get this done, got to

965
00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:08.960
do this, gotta do that, gotta you know, have all

966
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:12.880
these things aligned before that day happens. And in reality,

967
00:56:12.920 --> 00:56:16.360
it's like there's so much more that happens beyond your

968
00:56:16.440 --> 00:56:18.880
life here in the physical real.

969
00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:23.840
And I'll tell you, you know, if I didn't have so

970
00:56:23.880 --> 00:56:26.840
many weird experiences, I might feel a little different. But

971
00:56:29.360 --> 00:56:38.719
either I'm either I'm crazy and accurate, or or there's

972
00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:41.119
life after death, you know what I mean. You know,

973
00:56:41.199 --> 00:56:45.400
it's like that's the option. So it maybe both. Maybe

974
00:56:45.440 --> 00:56:50.599
I am crazy, but it's it's funny. You can't really

975
00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:53.920
convince other people though, that you know there is an afterlife.

976
00:56:54.079 --> 00:56:57.760
They they have their beliefs, they have their reasons why

977
00:56:57.840 --> 00:56:59.400
they believe what they believe. A lot of people were

978
00:56:59.480 --> 00:57:02.159
damaged in church. Church has ruined a lot of people.

979
00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:09.199
But you know, I think beyond that, everyone wants to believe.

980
00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:13.960
So I do my best to let them know, Hey,

981
00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:16.400
you don't have to really sweat anymore about all that

982
00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:18.840
crab after this. You know, we don't have to do

983
00:57:18.880 --> 00:57:19.519
that anymore.

984
00:57:20.119 --> 00:57:24.920
Right, And if you're crazy, all three of us are crazy.

985
00:57:24.920 --> 00:57:26.360
Right, I know we're insane.

986
00:57:26.639 --> 00:57:26.920
You know.

987
00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:31.840
You have a whole radio show dedicated to the insane.

988
00:57:31.840 --> 00:57:32.159
Right.

989
00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:38.199
Eric No.

990
00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:39.599
I was just going to say, like the whole idea

991
00:57:39.639 --> 00:57:41.079
of like I want to believe. It always makes me

992
00:57:41.119 --> 00:57:43.360
think of that poster from the xpiles. I think, to

993
00:57:43.519 --> 00:57:45.840
this day, for the last twenty years, I want to

994
00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:47.679
believe every single day of my life. That's why we

995
00:57:47.760 --> 00:57:49.800
keep doing this too. It's like, even though we do

996
00:57:49.880 --> 00:57:51.639
believe you want to know more.

997
00:57:52.239 --> 00:57:57.320
No, mhm, you know, And that whole poster sparked something

998
00:57:57.360 --> 00:58:00.199
from me a long time ago, because I know that

999
00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:05.000
those spiritual beings do exist, people call them aliens or whatever,

1000
00:58:06.480 --> 00:58:09.239
and I know that they're about to show there. They're

1001
00:58:09.280 --> 00:58:11.639
about to show off here in about a year or so.

1002
00:58:11.639 --> 00:58:14.719
So we're gonna that whole poster will mean a lot

1003
00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:16.679
of stuff to a lot of people. It'll say, I

1004
00:58:16.760 --> 00:58:20.360
believe it'll change. I believe now you know it.

1005
00:58:20.360 --> 00:58:21.639
We'll be seen it everywhere.

1006
00:58:22.280 --> 00:58:22.920
Yes, we will.

1007
00:58:24.239 --> 00:58:27.159
Yeah, we had or I had, Eric had to be gone,

1008
00:58:27.239 --> 00:58:32.119
but Vincent jenna On, Oh wow, he had the same

1009
00:58:32.599 --> 00:58:38.679
exact description of what you're saying of what these aliens are.

1010
00:58:38.480 --> 00:58:39.360
They they are.

1011
00:58:39.320 --> 00:58:42.519
Extraterrestrial in a sense, but have turned themselves into light

1012
00:58:42.639 --> 00:58:47.280
beings that are coming back to show us.

1013
00:58:47.719 --> 00:58:52.599
And really really they're here right now, right that's the

1014
00:58:52.639 --> 00:58:55.679
way we're seeing it as a comeback. They're not traveling

1015
00:58:55.679 --> 00:58:59.800
through space. They're here. They're just they're going to show

1016
00:58:59.800 --> 00:59:03.920
off here shortly, and we're gonna go, wow, that's wild.

1017
00:59:04.719 --> 00:59:08.920
Yeah, Well it is about that time to let you go.

1018
00:59:09.159 --> 00:59:11.000
So I want to give you a chance to tell

1019
00:59:11.039 --> 00:59:13.679
everybody where they can find you and find your work.

1020
00:59:14.360 --> 00:59:18.599
Well, I tell everyone to find us on social media

1021
00:59:18.719 --> 00:59:23.840
Savannah Psychics. That's the easiest way to find this. TikTok, Instagram,

1022
00:59:24.920 --> 00:59:30.039
sub stack, Facebook, always Facebook, you know, and people say

1023
00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:31.599
it's for old folk. I don't know. We got a

1024
00:59:31.639 --> 00:59:34.119
lot of young folks still on Facebook, so I don't know.

1025
00:59:35.519 --> 00:59:38.320
But you know, TikTok's I think the go to. I

1026
00:59:38.320 --> 00:59:42.880
would say, hit us there, come to Savannah. We're three

1027
00:59:42.920 --> 00:59:45.480
eleven West Broughton Street on the third floor. We're above

1028
00:59:46.039 --> 00:59:51.519
Kindri Scott. It's kind of a really unique shop. Jen

1029
00:59:51.719 --> 00:59:57.039
makes a lot of wild folk magic type products, herbal remedies,

1030
00:59:58.199 --> 01:00:04.079
a lot of other stuff, blue lotus oil. We sell herbs,

1031
01:00:04.199 --> 01:00:07.239
tons of herbs, the really cool stuff that you can't

1032
01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:12.039
find anywhere. As well as we do our readings Samanna Psychics.

1033
01:00:12.039 --> 01:00:13.679
That's where if you want to book a reading with me,

1034
01:00:13.760 --> 01:00:17.199
I do zoom reading, So Savannah Psychics dot com you

1035
01:00:17.199 --> 01:00:20.079
can book your reading with me. If you see me

1036
01:00:20.159 --> 01:00:22.639
on this show, tell me or put it in the notes,

1037
01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:25.599
because I'd love to know you know where where you

1038
01:00:25.679 --> 01:00:29.800
heard and my book in their own words. We're going

1039
01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:32.400
to have that in the shop. I think that might

1040
01:00:32.440 --> 01:00:34.519
be the only place we sell it to start with.

1041
01:00:36.239 --> 01:00:38.719
We'll probably have a link online that you can purchase

1042
01:00:38.760 --> 01:00:41.000
it as well. I will autograph a copy if you

1043
01:00:41.039 --> 01:00:42.559
buy it. You got to let me know ahead of

1044
01:00:42.599 --> 01:00:44.079
time that you want me to do that, or I

1045
01:00:44.119 --> 01:00:47.199
will forget. But yeah, come to Savannah, come to see

1046
01:00:47.239 --> 01:00:52.400
me in person, and yeah, that's that's how we're doing that.

1047
01:00:52.440 --> 01:00:54.239
I think I think I gave you all the information

1048
01:00:54.360 --> 01:00:59.599
Savannah Psychics everywhere, Samana Psychics, dot Com, Samana Psychics, TikTok, Instagram,

1049
01:00:59.719 --> 01:01:03.559
the whole thing, all right, and a Mystic Apothecary. That's

1050
01:01:03.599 --> 01:01:07.079
the apothecary side, so that would be dot com and

1051
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:09.159
all the all the social media as well.

1052
01:01:09.280 --> 01:01:12.519
So all right, Brian, thank you so much for coming

1053
01:01:12.519 --> 01:01:14.960
back on Paratruth to be Born. I'm sure we'll probably

1054
01:01:14.960 --> 01:01:20.079
have you on throughout the show, but I'm gonna put

1055
01:01:20.119 --> 01:01:22.079
you in limbo real quick and we'll close out the

1056
01:01:22.119 --> 01:01:27.480
show and we'll get back with you perfect all right, folks.

1057
01:01:27.719 --> 01:01:31.599
That is Brian Buyer's make sure you check out his

1058
01:01:31.840 --> 01:01:37.079
book in their own words, Spirits of Savannah until next week, folks,

1059
01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:40.159
where you will find us same time same channel. My

1060
01:01:40.239 --> 01:01:40.880
name is Justin.

1061
01:01:41.320 --> 01:01:42.760
I'm Eric Peace
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Brian and Jen Byers

Author/Psychic/Content Creators

Brian and Jen Byers are nationally recognized psychic mediums and co-owners of Savannah Psychics, Mystic Apothecary, and Savannah Ghost Tours. Based in Savannah, Georgia, they’ve been voted Best Psychics three years in a row and are known for their powerful mediumship, compelling storytelling, and deep connection to the spirit world. Featured on AMC’s You Are Here with Colman Domingo, Brian and Jen conduct séances, spiritual readings, and paranormal investigations that bridge the gap between history and the supernatural. Together, they bring heart, humor, and a grounded authenticity to every spiritual encounter.

Brian has a new book coming out soon about the spirits that haunt Savannah.