Sept. 7, 2025

Fact or Fiction: Is the Bermuda Triangle A Real Threat?

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The Bermuda Triangle has long been shrouded in mystery—ships vanishing, planes disappearing, and stories of strange phenomena that defy explanation. But is the Triangle truly a deadly danger, or just a myth fueled by fear and speculation? In this episode of ParaTruth: Reborn, Justin and Erik separate fact from fiction as they dive into the history, theories, and science behind one of the world’s most infamous mysteries.

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Welcome, Well, well, do bear truth.

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What's going on? Para Truths?

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Welcome to a brand new episode of Paratruth Reborn. This

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is a pure recorded show on one of seven point

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seven FM, New Orleans one five point three on the

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Gulf Coast and United Public Radio Network. My name is

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Justin and I'm Eric. And tonight, folks, we are going

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to prepare for our chilling journey into the heart of

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the Premier Triangle, where countless vessels have met their demid

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from the unexplained disappearance of Flight nineteen to the animatic

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fate of the ss Cotopaxy. Will unravel the stories of

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these maritime tragedies and uncover the secrets that may hold

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the key to their very fate. Now we've talked about

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this at least personally in the past, but kind of

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what is your main knowledge.

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About the Bermuda Triangle.

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I mean, primarily it sits within the North Atlantic over

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by Miami, Puerto Rico and Bermuda. And then it's a

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place in which many haunting tales have taken place. You know,

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primarily ships and planes that have disappeared, both commercially and

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also personal vehicles that disappeared without any trace whatsoever and

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no explanation. So it's a place that's really been built

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around superstition and has a lot of theoretical paranormal anomalies

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that people believe have happened there to create these disappearances.

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Yeah, and looking at the science or scientific explanation behind it,

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some of it was kind of weird, and we'll get

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into that, and to me doesn't really explain everything away.

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But some of the most historical disappearances and accounts, there

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are quite a few, actually, but I came across a smallest.

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The Ellen Austin happened in eighteen eighty one. This incident

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involved a ship finding a seemingly seemingly sorry abandoned vessel

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in the Sargasso Sea, which then became empty before the

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Ellen Austin could take it in tow, and the Ellen

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Austin never returned. Joshua Slocum in eighteen ninety five, the

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famous solo circumnavigator, vanished vanished on a voyage between Martha's

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Vineyard and South America, with his disappearance attributed to the

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area by some, but they don't know for sure if

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it was him going through the Premier Triangle that claimed him,

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not coming back the USS Cyclops, which is an awesome

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name in my personal opinion, being a fan of Greek mythology.

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That happened in nineteen eighteen. This large navy cargo ship

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carrying over three hundred men vanished without sending an SOS

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distress call. No wreckage was ever found, and I believe

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that is kind of one of the most common things

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that happens when people are claimed quote unquote by the

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bringing a triangle. Right, they didn't send out an SOS,

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they didn't send any communication or communication is just cut off, right.

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Yeah, as far as we know here that a lot

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of these plays. In most cases, a lot of these

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ships and planes have disappeared without any distress call whatsoever.

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And yet there have been some that did receive, like

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the main landry did receive SOS cause, but by the

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time they could reach them or find them, they would

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just vanish with no trace and no explanation as to

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how or why or what the call really was truly about.

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There are a number of different explanations or possibilities which

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we'll get into, but some of it has to deal

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with instruments simply going wild or becoming lost. The pilots

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or the captains of the ships becoming lost somewhere, not

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knowing where they were so kind of becoming disoriented, which

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could also play into the disappearances as well as you'll see.

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But yeah, a lot of these a lot of these cases,

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there simply was no sos. They were just there on

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the map and then boom, they were gone. Same with

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like radar, you know, they're on the radar, and especially

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later in the nineteen hundreds, uh, you know, they would

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appear on the maps on the radar spectrum and they

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would being but then all of a sudden, they just stop.

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And that's how we find out that's all of these plates,

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particular vehicles have disappeared. And of course they send a

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number of vehicles out to find to try to retrieve

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these missing missing boats and planes, but with no luck whatsoever.

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Jack.

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They're usually using sonar to ping the water floor, right.

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Well, sure, yeah, when they're looking for you know, when

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they're when they're looking at their last known location. And

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that's part of the issue is when all you have

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is the last known location. That I mean, if we're

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talking about a plane, for example, moving aut relatively high speeds,

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once it disappears, it could keep traveling off a radar

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for who knows how far. So if you're looking in

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like a you know, twenty square mile range of what

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you think this plane or what this plane's last location was,

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it might be sixty to eighty miles off of that

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from all we know. And not to mention, you have

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to consider the various tides strong tides happening in the

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area as well. So even if a ship goes down

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or a plane, it could be carried away real fast

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on the various currents.

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Yeah, well, yeah, that was what my thing was, is

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if a ship is going down, or if it does

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go completely submerged, the undercurrent could grab it and still drag.

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It along even after it's gone under all right.

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Some of the others here was the Proteus and Neurius,

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I believe is how it's pronounced. In nineteen forty one,

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and that was the sister ships of the USS Cyclops

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also just disappeared without a trace in the same region,

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and I believe same situation. Noss Distress was sent light nineteen,

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which is one of the most famous flights to go

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missing there. In nineteen forty five, five US Navy torpedo

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bombers went missing after their leaders compasses reportedly malfunctioned. A

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rescue plane sent to find them also disappeared the same day,

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Star Tiger and Star Aeriel, which is sounds like some

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really someome names there. Nineteen forty eight and nineteen forty nine,

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two British passenger planes disappeared within a year of each other,

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with little warning or evidence of what happened, and then

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the reven In nineteen fifty eight, a racing yacht with

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five people on board failed to return after a gale.

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Passing shrimp boat reported seeing figures trailing from ropes, but

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a rescue wasn't attempted, which kind of baffles me in

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my opinion. I get they were a shrimp boat, but

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why would you not try and help people that are

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r in the water.

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I mean, if we have the answers to every question,

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you know.

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Well, well and there you know there is this kind

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of relationship with the Bermuda Triangle in the South American

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area and then the Dragon Triangle. Since you put that

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information in our notes, I'll have you kind of go

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over what the Dragon's triangle is.

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Sure, so the Dragon's Triangle is very very similar to

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the Bermuda triangle and really when you look at it

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on a map, there seems to be almost a clear

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connection from the Bermuda Triangle through the Earth to the

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Dragon's Tringle, which kind of brings this whole idea or

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theory that there's some sort of wormhole here, and that

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made me some of these missing or disappearances of the

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ships and planes have actually disappeared and ended up over

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near Japan somehow as they travel through these wormholes. So

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the Dragon's Triangle, also known as the Devil's Sea, primarily

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as a region in the Pacific Ocean near Japan. It

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is known just very similarly as a Bermuda Triangle for

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mysterious ship and plane disappearances. Now, both of the areas,

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of course, that is, the Dragon's Trangle and the Bermuda

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Triangle are linked by theories of mysterious magnetic forces, unusual

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natural phenomenon like wrogue waves and sudden storms, and potentially

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volcanic activity that could cause some sort of methane gas

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release that, as you'll hear soon, could cause some disruptive

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problems for ships in particularly. The Dragon's Triangle, of course,

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is also rooted in ancient Chinese mythology about dragons causing

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the turmoil, hence its name. Now, the region itself within

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the Pacific Ocean is often described as sending from Japan

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to the Mariana Islands and Guam, and the name comes

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from a century's old Chinese myth about dragons living deep

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beneath the sea, causing sudden storms, whirlpools and fog. And

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if you ever look at art of like ancient art

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and particular about dragons, you'll see they're often tied to

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the water and the skies and the winds, and so

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you kind of see how storms and tidal waves and

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stuff can come about because of these dragons. It's also known,

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of course as the Asian Bermuda Triangle because it's they're

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called the Asian Bermuda Tangle because it's lesser known than

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the Bermuda Triangle. It's kind of like a sister triangle,

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but it's not as well documented as the Bermuda Triangle is,

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despite its similarities. Now, the area became a real public

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discern or concern in the nineteen fifties, much later than

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the Bermuda, when Japanese officials declared it a danger zone

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due to the significant number of vanishing ships a Japanese

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government research vessel, in particular, the Kaye Muru number five,

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vanished there in nineteen fifty two while investigating the incidents themselves.

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Once again very similar to what we see in the

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Bermuda Triangle, where a ship or a plane goes out

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to find a mistionship or plane, missing ship or plane

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and then disappears itself. Very odd. Of course, that's something

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you wouldn't think would happen all considering, and yet it

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seems to happen well.

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And that's the fascinating thing about this is there's these disappearances,

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but although we can't explain them, science is telling us

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there has to be a rational explanation to it, and

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for some of these cases it's very possible. But you know,

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some of the theories that are out there about the triangles,

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and I've heard this for both is Atlantis technology.

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Uh.

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Some theories proposed that the lost city of Atlantis is

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located in the area of Bermuda Triangle, but they also

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don't know where Atlantis was and how far the Atlantis

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reach was, if Atlantis was even real and it's active.

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Crystal technology is causing malfunctions in modern vessels, and the

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reason I bring the whole location up is because I've

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heard it's close to the Mediterranean Sea. I've heard it's close,

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you know, to the Breun Triangle, and we can we'll

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probably be doing a whole whole episode on Atlantis if

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it's a factor fiction. But there there is a huge

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speculation that there, you know, the Atlantis was never a thing.

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Other theories are alien abduction. One fringe theory, so yes,

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that extraterrestrials are using the area as a base for

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abducting ships and aircraft.

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And I have seen.

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Multiple theories about not UAPs, but what do they call them?

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Underwater I don't know what they're called those, yeah, phenomena,

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I mean what else would you call, yeah, unidentified water

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vessels or something. But you know, there's been theories about

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that too, that vessels or alien craft are actually going

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underwater to bases that they have on the ocean floor,

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or that the humans alien.

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That are working together do.

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I mean, there's been plenty of evidence just recently really

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showing some odd phenomena in which it would seem that

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some sort of aerial craft moving at super speeds would

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dive into the ocean and then come back out of

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the ocean, and that's through military technology in which it's

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been viewed. So these are things that have been released

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or videos released by the military themselves, which is very interesting.

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He classified images and videos. So the fact that they're

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releasing that kind of stuff and showing us that yes,

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they noticed something flying into the water and back out

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of the water and moving at speeds that they can't

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keep up with themselves, and not to mention moving at

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angles at those high speeds that our own modern airplanes

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can't do. Kind of just it really attests to the

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possibilities of what's really out there and in particular in

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this case, within the triangles.

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And that was happening around the time of the whole

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ORB situation, drone situation.

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Last was last year, right, I think.

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So, yeah, they're all blending together weirdness that's going on,

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and then the last part and there's I'm sure tons

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more theories. These were just the most well known theories.

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Time vartext or portals. Some stories described the area as

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a vortex or portal to another dimension or a time

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warp that pulls vehicles into the past or future. And

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part of that is from some ships that have gone

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missing have somehow just randomly returned as ghost ships. And

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I want to say that they thought that Amelia Earhart's

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light had come to the same demise around the I

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believe it was the Dragon's Triangle.

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Well, and I know, like one thing in particular is

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there has been documentation video documentation of personal aircraft that

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would fly through the Bermuda Triangle and show these wartexes,

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or at least it would show their their gauges, you know,

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giving all weird electronic distortions and whatnot, not being able

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to tell north from south and east from west. But

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then they would compile these video, these videos with stories

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of these people who said that as they're flying it

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seemed as if it was only a couple of minutes,

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only to come out of it many hours past. So

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there was a loss of time somewhere within there, which

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would suggest a time for text or portals or and

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also in some cases alien abduction, because that's to those

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stories as well, where it seems only minutes past and

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yet you know they come two hours later.

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Right, Yeah, And.

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Trying to think I haven't really dealed into recent ones.

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But I also, I mean I pay attention to a

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lot of articles that come out. I haven't seen anything

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where anything has happened in the recent past about the

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Premia triangle or the Drying and triangle.

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Have you No, I haven't, But I think that's primarily

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because there's been other news that has taken up, you know,

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and I think that's the that's one thing we need

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to consider, you know. Despite the the seemingly numerous amounts

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of evidence that pile up over the triangles, Uh, there

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are a number of third party companies that come out

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and say insurance companies in particular, is one also the military,

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that say that these disappearance are really no different than

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any other disappearances around the world over the oceans, and

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that primarily they seem to be very similar in the

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amount of disappearances as there are in high traffic areas,

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primarily with ships but also with planes. So it's very

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possible that the only reason that we're so focused on

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the Bermuda Triangle and the Devil's Triangle or the Dragon's Triangle,

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Devil's Sea, Dragon's Trirangle is because we're hearing more news

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of them coming from there because there's already this superstition

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surrounding them, when in reality, the same thing's happening everywhere

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else too. We just don't hear about that.

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Right, So some of the scientific explanations here severe weather.

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The region is prone to severe weather, including powerful water

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spouts and other storms which can pose a significant hazardou

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ships in the aircraft.

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That one makes.

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A lot of sense. And why SOS wouldn't have gone

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out for sure?

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Yeah, and that does make sense because especially in that area,

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you know, we tropical storms thing, they pop up out

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of nowhere. I did last year in North Carolina there

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was a tropical storm that kind of developed off of

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a hurricane uh, and we did not expect it. It

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wasn't supposed to happen. We woke up one morning and

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basically the whole condo was swaying. The whole house was

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swaying back and forth high winds, and the area of

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Carolina that I was in ended up hitting a record

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of most rain dropped within just a couple of hours,

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and we were flooded in for a long time, like

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with six foot of water all around us. And it's

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not uncommon within tropical regions for storms to just pop up.

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The same thing happens here in Cleveland because the lakes

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water tends to have a significant impact on weather phenomena.

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Right, which kind of leads into this next one, because

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if you're having some youer weather, you'd be having Gulf

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stream issues. The powerful and swift golf stream current can

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pose navigational challenges, and the ocean floor in the area

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has many complex features, which I didn't dig into what

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that means, but I'm guessing there's a lot of jagged rocks,

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some shallow spots as well.

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As well as very deep areas such as the Mariana Trench,

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So right, those at least, I don't know. I'm sure

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there's some evidence out there as to what those type

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of structures can do to the surface, you know, waves

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getting larger, or you know, various things like that which

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can certainly happen, or you know, as you said, we

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have a shallow making ships can easily run aground and

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they eventually.

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Yeah, I hate even saying this one because I feel

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the government, the military, and science used this one way

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too much. Methane gas a period suggests that pockets of

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methane gas trapped beneath the seafloor could erupt, releasing bubbles

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that decrease the water's density, causing ships to lose buoyancy

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and sink rapidly. I have heard this theory and have

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seen it in action, so I guess it's possible. It

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just really really feels like we use that way too often.

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Well, I mean, I think we use it often because

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there is that possibility. I mean, we basically live on

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a planet that is one large volcano, you know, so,

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which is kind of scary when you think about it,

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But I think what's important, what should be necessary here?

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And it's one thing to just make a scientific theory,

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but you can easily roll it out by using science

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to test with their there was a band gas leak,

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because many of our instruments, especially marine instruments used by scientists,

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will hear that verse feel that in some way, they'll

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be able to sense it and let us know. Same

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as if you, you know, if they feel a minor

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earthquake under the ocean, they know it. They know is

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a one point two magnitude earthquake under the ocean, and

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a size of I think gas big enough to mind

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you take down like a what do you call it?

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A like a shipping container boat or even a military

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grade battleship would be pretty significant and easy to detect

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Maybe not back in the nineteen fifties and forties, but nowadays,

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for sure.

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Rogue waves is one possibility, and it does make a

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lot of sense because unusually large and powerful waves could

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take down huge ships, especially with tsunamis and stuff like that.

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I know, road waves are a little bit different than

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the tsunami, but if you know how big a tsunami

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wave will get, roague waves can get pretty tall too.

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And you've been at the beach where waves are way

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too tall to even surf in North Carolina.

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Well sure, but you know when you're talking about the

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shore versus you know, the middle of the ocean, considering

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you know, the waves out there are significantly larger than

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what you can.

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Ever, that's my point.

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Yeah, and yeah, there are plenty there's plenty of evidence

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of roaguwaves. You know, it's a real thing. It happens

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even on the Great Lakes. And that of course comes

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up also due to various storm elements or earthquakes or

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just a certain change in the wind. You know, the

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Earth is so phenomenal in how the magnetic field and

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the wind plays a factor that waves can easily be

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tossed and turned and become very deadly, very fast, especially

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when a vessel is on isn't expecting it, right.

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Yeah, So this one is fascinating to me, and.

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It's interesting that science will bring it up because.

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We do have these anomalies magnetic anomalies, although not scientifically

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verified in the premire triangle region, magnetic anomalies have been

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suggested as a cause for compass malfunction but potentially sending

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ships and planes off course. This is one that kind

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of gets me because they're already saying not usually not

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in the Bermuini or triangle, does this particular phenomenon happen,

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Not that it wouldn't per se, But to say that

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that's just a scientific problem and not maybe one of

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those other out there theories is is interesting to me.

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Well, all this thing is not verified in the Permuta triangle,

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but I can tell you based on various things I've watched.

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One in particular is Expedition Unknown Josh Gates. He has

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done plenty of trips out to Bermuda and has shown

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on TV proof that these compasses at certain points have

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gone haywire. Not understanding why or how, but it's very

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hard to test the magnetic field in the moment you

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have to actually be there and you know, be able

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to test it somehow. So there is video proof that

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instruments engages tend to not work at times within the

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Bermuda triangle and the doubles see. But as to what

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exactly is causing it and how, that's the thing that's

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kind of you know, raises a lot of suspicion.

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Yeah, do you think we would still have this problem

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in this day age if there was issues going on there?

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Yeah? I mean there's still things happening this day and age,

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you know, here in twenty twenty five. The stuff still happens.

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Doesn't mean that technology should be capable or is capable

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of detecting these things. But unfortunately, technology being made is fallible.

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It's not perfect. It never can be. We have so

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many things within our stratosphere, our atmosphere, the oceans, the

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geological structure of the Earth. We can't control gravity, we

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can't control magnetic fields, you know, not to the extent

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like the whole earth. So there are things way out

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of our element that we yet have even been able

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to understand, let alone control and be able to beat.

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In terms of a navigational system, that isn't you know,

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troubled by these things.

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Yeah, my mind is blown as far as technology is

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concerned about a lot of different things. How we should

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be more advanced in technology than we are. The last

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scientific theory is human error and mechanical failure. Many disappearances

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are attributed to human misjudgment, poor navigation, or mechanical breakdowns

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of equipment, which are common causes of accidents at CN

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and the air. This one is a very very plausible

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one in my opinion, because human error alone, especially back

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in the time when we were talking about the different

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instances where even if you were thrown off by just

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a few seconds, you could have ended up somewhere completely different.

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Right, you know, it's I would say that this is plausible,

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that it is likely in many cases even human error.

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Would you consider flight it was a flight ninety one,

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right or nineteen? Oh? I'm sorry, fight I always do that,

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you know, decide in verse my numbers. Flight nineteen. You know,

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when you have roughly well not roughly, but exactly five

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bomber torpedo torpedo bomber planes out there and they all

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go missing, it's kind of weird. And I understand that

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four of those planes are following the lead plane. But

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it doesn't make sense that they would all go off

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course like one of them, if not multiple, would have

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proper navigational systems running. But it would seem or at

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least I would assume that all of their instruments on

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each plane went haywire and they got lost either A.

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It was a number of explanations of possibilities. A. They

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got turned around and they were much lower, uh, you know,

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to the ground, or I should say, to the sea surface,

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sea level. I think I sort of looking for then

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they thought, and once coming out of like a cot

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or something, they crashed into the ocean. Two they veered

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way off course, not knowing where they were and ended

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up losing fuel and crashing. And three, of course, is

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the idea of a really bad storm that happened to

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disrupt all of the not only instruments, but the ability

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to fly in general. But again, we're talking about five

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planes that disappeared, and then on top of that, for

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a ship to go out looking for these planes and

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that ship also disappear, that's weird, Like that's beyond weird.

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That's not normal. And we see that multiple times in

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both the Bermuda Triangle and the Dragon's triangle in which

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vehicles will go out looking for other vehicles that have

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gone missing and yet go missing themselves, and that's unexplainable.

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There should be an explanation there, and there isn't, which

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makes it all of my mysterious and really raises a

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lot of the suspicion around paranormal phenomenon. Yeah.

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Well, and if there is some type of magnetic anomaly

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that somehow they ran through, I can see how not

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just human error but mechanical failure would have happened. But

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the compasses stuff. I remember watching a lot of documentaries

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back in the day about the Bermuda Triangle, and the

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different accounts that they would go over would always be

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their compasses failed and set them off course, And that

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that one just has always baffled me. The human air

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thing I can get behind. And even if say, for example,

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their their mechanicals were working on higher percent efficiently a

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boat in particular ship, if they would have had the

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captain not steering the ship at the time they had

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yet you know, he had to go somewhere and come back,

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and the person that was steering it in his place

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didn't know where they were going, or just looked away

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and wasn't paying attention. That is one of the biggest

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human errors, right there is the lack of experience doing

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that stuff.

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Well. Sure, but you know, when you consider the environment

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that you're in and the various natural elements that can

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affect a day of travel on the seas or in

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the air, human error, you know, it's not unheard of,

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even by the most professional and highly filled of individuals.

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When you consider like air shows and these planes crashing

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made of air. That mean, these are some of the

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best trained pilots in the world, and yet due to

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human error, accidents happen, and more than accidents, death happens,

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you know, So to think that the education of how

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to you know, stare a boat or fly a plane

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should be enough isn't, especially when you consider altitude sickness

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and again like magnetic fields that are throwing off instruments.

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You're not sure how to navigate without stars or something,

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you know, something like that nature. You know, a lot

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of these things that went missing didn't have the technology

472
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that we you today to keep on course. Even if

473
00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:08.920
the mechanical gauges had gone and miss there's usually some

474
00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:12.880
sort of backup nowadays. But on top of that again,

475
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:19.799
we come back to these these instances where a ship

476
00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:24.240
that's out looking for another ship goes missing. Right, and

477
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:29.759
the possibility that individuals on two different ships both happened

478
00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:34.480
to have a human error that caused the ship to disappear.

479
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:40.319
That's again suspicious, And of course we can't. We will

480
00:33:40.319 --> 00:33:43.799
never have answers. We just won't, not until you know,

481
00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:46.440
our days are done and we're up in heaven and

482
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:48.839
we hear everything and learn everything that ever happened in

483
00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:52.240
our world. Right, But until then, it's like these are

484
00:33:52.279 --> 00:34:00.799
just mysterious, mysterious missteries. Goodness was caught between mysteries and mysterious, but.

485
00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:03.799
The same thing, really, I mean, it is, it is,

486
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:08.199
But you know, it's just it's unfortunate because a lot

487
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:11.320
of this just exists, the more questions and answers as

488
00:34:11.599 --> 00:34:12.719
many of our topics do.

489
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:17.400
Yeah, well, and you kind of already mentioned this, but

490
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:21.360
evidence contradicting the myths. The number of ships and aircraft

491
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:25.320
that disappear in the Premier Triangle specifically is no greater

492
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:30.599
proportionally than in any other heavily trafficked ocean area, which

493
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:31.719
is fascinating to me.

494
00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:37.920
Well, it's again I think it's mainly because the triangles

495
00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:44.639
get more media else, you know, they have that long

496
00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:46.760
standing superstition.

497
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:52.880
It's yeah, And the US Coast Guard and insurance rates.

498
00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:56.679
The US Coast Guard and Lloyd's of London confirmed that

499
00:34:56.679 --> 00:35:00.000
disappearances are not more frequent and have not increased insurance

500
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:06.239
premiums in the area, indicating no inherent danger, which I

501
00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:09.880
feel it doesn't matter how many ships go missing in

502
00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:16.039
the areas or planes, it's still way too many in

503
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:16.679
my opinion.

504
00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:19.039
Well sure, I mean it's definitely way too many. But

505
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:24.719
you consider you here, consider this, for example, Lake Erie, right,

506
00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:26.639
I mean, most people know what Lake Aria is, and

507
00:35:26.719 --> 00:35:28.199
you know the Great Lakes at all, and the Great

508
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:30.239
Lakes are famous.

509
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:30.719
Around the world.

510
00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:35.119
Oh, with that said, Superior being considered one, you know,

511
00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:39.400
the biggest and one of the most dangerous lakes, if

512
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:43.079
not the most dangerous lake. Even with that said, Lake

513
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:49.039
Erie has more sunken ships on its floor than all

514
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:53.199
the Great Lakes combined, meaning it's taken down more ships

515
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:58.639
than the dangerous Superior did. And yet all we have

516
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:01.639
for explanation in many of those cases is the fact

517
00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:06.159
that Lake Erie is shallow, very shallow. These ships, you know,

518
00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:09.880
run aground and then they sink in the deeper waters.

519
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:13.559
We don't have much explanation, but the fact that there

520
00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:16.119
have been thousands of ships at the bottom, or that

521
00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:18.599
there are thousands of ships at the bottom of Lake Erie,

522
00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:23.280
is very fascinating and suspicious considering. And it's no different

523
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:27.079
than in the oceans. Again, Lake Erie, the Great Lakes

524
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:30.239
in general, they're not a focus when it comes to disappearances,

525
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:32.639
although there's been a couple of disappearances that have hit

526
00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:38.199
the media. But they're triangles. They've got superstar status, right,

527
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:42.719
or in this case, super triangle status, I guess. But

528
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:50.920
it's the simple fact that anybody could take in this

529
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:55.280
case of missing charter or some sort and blow it

530
00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:58.159
up to a level in which so many people become

531
00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:01.039
interested and are talking about it. Then we start focusing

532
00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:04.199
in on the areas which has happened, and we start saying, oh, well,

533
00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:06.360
this also disappared and not disappeared, and then all of

534
00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:13.519
a sudden we have a real mystery on our hands.

535
00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:20.360
I didn't look into this, but hurricanes go up through

536
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:24.559
the berminga triangle at times, right, pretty much all the time,

537
00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:25.400
all the time.

538
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:26.760
Okay, so.

539
00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:32.800
I can see back then back in the time that

540
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:39.320
we of those instances where they probably were not paying

541
00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:42.320
or didn't have the weather technology that we do today,

542
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:46.719
and just things are gone and they didn't know that

543
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:47.960
there was a storm out there.

544
00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:51.840
I mean, yeah, I don't know. I'd have to look

545
00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:52.280
that up.

546
00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:00.519
So I think one thing that we can kind of

547
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:04.079
go over is some of our thoughts on the likelihood

548
00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:10.280
of each of these being a possibility, and we'll go

549
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:16.280
over the paranormal stuff for first. What are your thoughts

550
00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:22.280
on the Atlantis technology theory.

551
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:30.000
I mean, I think that's at this moment, I think

552
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:37.199
that's just a fictional theory. Atlantis in and of itself

553
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:41.360
is just a theory. There is no evidence of Atlantis,

554
00:38:41.400 --> 00:38:46.400
and therefore to use it as a possibility or a

555
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:54.559
probability of causing issues for aircraft and seacraft, I think

556
00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:58.960
we need to take that out of the equation. Crystal

557
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:03.199
technology still use today. It's used in modern watches every

558
00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:06.880
uh you know, nearly well, no, pretty much every watch

559
00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:09.519
you have is run on a crystal, a Courtz crystal

560
00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:14.920
in particular in most cases. And so to think that

561
00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:19.800
there was some other technology being used by some civilization

562
00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:23.440
that we don't even know ever actually existed, is to

563
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:28.920
assume something that we're already assuming. If that makes it,

564
00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:31.760
I know that sounds confusing, but you know, we're assuming

565
00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:35.280
that these places are these these these vessels are going

566
00:39:35.320 --> 00:39:39.320
missing on the assumption that there's some sort of technology

567
00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:42.119
that's disrupting the modern technology.

568
00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:43.719
Right.

569
00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:48.039
Well, and we'll go over this. Our last episode is

570
00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:53.119
next week, so well, the delve deep into why people

571
00:39:53.159 --> 00:40:00.480
thinking it's real. But the one thing I always remember

572
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:06.679
is that Atlantis wasn't really brought up until Plato wrote

573
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:12.679
about this utopia, whether it was fictional or he was

574
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:21.599
making it a documented paper that people thought was just fiction.

575
00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:23.719
What we can dull into that, but.

576
00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:28.119
Yeah, as far as we are made to know is

577
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:31.440
that Atlantis wasn't around until Plato brought it up.

578
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:35.079
Right exactly, And you would think if it was around,

579
00:40:35.079 --> 00:40:40.119
there'd be other evidence supporting it aside from Plato himself,

580
00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:45.719
and earlier than Plato. We have documentation from some of

581
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:49.159
the earliest civilizations ever and some will say the earliest

582
00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:52.000
of civilizations, and yet we don't have one of Atlantis,

583
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:56.440
which is very curious unless and of course this this

584
00:40:56.480 --> 00:40:59.400
will be a little bit of a rabbit trail, we'll

585
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:04.440
probably the drill. Sorry, but you know, let's just jump

586
00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:07.199
in the little Book of Genesis for a moment, Chapter six,

587
00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:12.000
in particular, when you consider the flood, of course, the

588
00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:15.880
rise of the Nephilum, and if the Nephilom were truly

589
00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:20.639
a hybrid evangelic beings that had enormous power and could

590
00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:26.559
create a civilization like Atlantis and show them technology and

591
00:41:26.559 --> 00:41:29.440
how to build technology that we otherwise didn't know, and

592
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:35.639
God deemed that as you know, bad basically as disruptive

593
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:38.519
and a problem leading people away from him, then there's

594
00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:40.840
a good chance that he would destroy that technology and

595
00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:44.239
erase it from existence through the flood and whatever other

596
00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:48.800
means necessary. That's not to say the evidence isn't out there,

597
00:41:48.920 --> 00:41:51.039
but I think finding that evidence is going to be

598
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:53.840
very difficult if it does exist, because I think if

599
00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:59.800
indeed Atlantis was wiped out for that reason, much like

600
00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:06.440
and go more, then you know it's been done purposefully.

601
00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:13.079
And whenever someone tries to destroy evidence purposely, it pretty

602
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:18.000
much disappears, you know, at least that's the intent. So

603
00:42:18.039 --> 00:42:20.639
I don't know if it does exist, I think it's

604
00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:23.000
just going to take way more time than we have

605
00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:25.719
here on this earth to learn about it, at least

606
00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:26.199
you and I.

607
00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:32.400
Yeah, well we'll go over all of the theories and

608
00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:36.480
all that next week. But also going back to you

609
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:38.400
talking about the Bible, same thing.

610
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:39.559
With the Tower of Babbel.

611
00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:42.639
It was destroyed because we were trying to use technology

612
00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:43.679
to reach.

613
00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:44.360
God, reach God.

614
00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:47.079
And yeah, here we are modern da using technology to

615
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:50.159
reach God. You know, some people will say it's not

616
00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:53.039
God they're trying to reach, but it's the same concept.

617
00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:53.320
Right.

618
00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:58.639
The alien abduction What are your thoughts on.

619
00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:01.480
That abduction theory? I think holds a little more significance

620
00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:04.079
only because the amount of evidence that is stacked up

621
00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:13.679
for extraterrestrial abductions. We have stories centuries old about alien inductions.

622
00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:18.159
You know, you look at ancient hieroglyphs, there is very

623
00:43:18.239 --> 00:43:21.559
much pictures, or at least what looks to be like

624
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:26.159
pictorial evidence of some sort of saucer like shape and

625
00:43:26.280 --> 00:43:30.480
people in space suits. So, you know, I think there

626
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:34.360
is certainly a possibility here. It would explain why some

627
00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:37.159
of these things have disappeared and never shown up again.

628
00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:43.079
But again, you know, this is all still theory. Unfortunately,

629
00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:47.960
we don't have significant evidence even prove that extraterrestrial life exists,

630
00:43:48.039 --> 00:43:51.119
let alone if they fly around in spacecraft and are

631
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:54.800
capable of abducting people or animals. I know how much

632
00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:59.199
aliens like their cows, but you know it's I don't know.

633
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:02.239
Yeah, well, with.

634
00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:06.960
The weird things that have gone around recently, yeah, I

635
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:13.039
feel it's a plausible thing. Again, like you said, we

636
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:16.119
don't have proof that aliens exist, you know, with the

637
00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:22.400
fact with the invention of AI, with people always using

638
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:31.800
the fake videos to say that things are real, that's

639
00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:34.159
where you run into way too much.

640
00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:37.519
Hoaxes. That's the word I was looking for.

641
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:42.079
And yes, there have been a lot of people that

642
00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:48.639
have come out saying, yeah, there are underwater bases, here's

643
00:44:48.719 --> 00:44:52.719
the evidence and the proof from not sonar but.

644
00:44:57.639 --> 00:44:58.719
Satellite technology.

645
00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:07.360
So and that was another theory about Amelia Earhart as well,

646
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:12.119
was that she was abducted by aliens. And not to

647
00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:16.079
throw out the nerd thing out there, but that was

648
00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:20.000
also a Star Trek episode that they found Amelia Earhart.

649
00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:23.320
She was abducted by these aliens years and years ago

650
00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:28.440
and then they find her. So yeah, that one's I

651
00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:33.840
think all three of these are probably not one hundred

652
00:45:33.840 --> 00:45:38.599
percent believable. But it is an interesting theory. The time

653
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:42.559
war texas and portals.

654
00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:47.400
I mean, it's going to be again repetitive in that

655
00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:50.320
we don't have evidence to support it, but we do

656
00:45:50.440 --> 00:46:00.559
have at least verbal descriptions of something similar happened. Yeah,

657
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:02.960
you know, people who have made it out of these

658
00:46:03.519 --> 00:46:06.360
these wartexes. Now, the vortex I think is very possible

659
00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:11.199
because we do have evidence that supports the fact that

660
00:46:11.239 --> 00:46:13.440
there are instruments that tend to get all out of

661
00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:16.239
whack when in certain areas of the permuter trying to justly,

662
00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:20.280
it's not a specific place whatsoever, just happens randomly, whether

663
00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:22.840
or not it's a vortex or something else altogether, that

664
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:29.119
is very much scientifically explainable we don't have yet, But yeah,

665
00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:31.360
I do think the time for text is very possible.

666
00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:34.559
And as for like wormholes, I mean, you and I

667
00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:36.519
have talked about the wormhole that you and I seem

668
00:46:36.679 --> 00:46:40.440
to have driven on multiple times when we're on our

669
00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:42.920
way to the gym and back. It would always be

670
00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:45.280
faster coming back than it was worn there, even though

671
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:50.920
it was the exact same road going both directions. And

672
00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:53.679
again this comes back to some of the alien abduction theories. Too,

673
00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:56.480
and that there have been individuals who claim to be

674
00:46:56.519 --> 00:46:58.280
out on the sea or in the air and then

675
00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:02.079
they have missing time, or on the road driving and

676
00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:05.199
they see something, they witness something in the sky and

677
00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:08.079
then boom, they say they know it's like three or

678
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:09.760
four hours later and they're on the side of the

679
00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:13.280
road in their vehicles. The same thing could certainly be

680
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:17.519
happening here and there in the triangles as well. Again,

681
00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:21.480
what the source is causing that type that type of

682
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:25.079
time slip? I have no idea. Is it natural, Is

683
00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:28.639
it made by you know, man, made in some way?

684
00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:32.880
Is it made by some other entity altogether? Uh? You know, again,

685
00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:36.159
we don't have the the instruments to test such a thing,

686
00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:42.320
but we what we do have is uh, the verbal

687
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:48.000
evidence we had supports at least the fury right well.

688
00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:53.159
And something with the the missing time thing. And I

689
00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:55.679
don't think it would be the same for ships and

690
00:47:55.800 --> 00:48:00.480
airplanes compared to like people during them on the road.

691
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:04.719
But it has been proven that the brain, if it

692
00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:09.480
is board, will go into an autopilot mode where it's

693
00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:11.679
going to its destination.

694
00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:13.840
And I've done it.

695
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:17.719
I'm pretty sure you've done it where you're driving and

696
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:19.920
you end up where you were going, but you have

697
00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:26.679
no memory of the travel from where you were from.

698
00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:28.960
The memory where you were till you got home.

699
00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:38.000
Right, Yeah, Because in those instances with the ships and

700
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:44.800
planes primarily, they're usually communicating consistently with land based.

701
00:48:46.199 --> 00:48:47.039
Areas. Right.

702
00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:48.880
And I will say that when it comes to time slips,

703
00:48:48.880 --> 00:48:51.039
I mean I've witnessed time slipts myself, and I'm sure

704
00:48:51.079 --> 00:48:53.960
you have to. Some of them are when I'm drabbing

705
00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:57.400
long distance and I'm very tired, and you know, my

706
00:48:57.480 --> 00:48:59.719
mind is shut off, but you know, I forget what

707
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:03.079
they can. But basically, the body and the brain work

708
00:49:03.320 --> 00:49:07.960
mechanically outside of your own cognitive thought. So driving a

709
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:11.440
car is second nature. You don't have to think about putting,

710
00:49:11.800 --> 00:49:14.039
you know, your foot on the gas and steering the wheel.

711
00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:17.320
It just happens, you know, if you've been driving a

712
00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:20.559
long time, and so you can easily check out, not

713
00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:22.800
notice cars around you, and yet still respond to those

714
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:25.039
vehicles around you. And I've done that multiple times and

715
00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:29.639
it helps, thankfully, it helps long distance travel seem shorter.

716
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:36.039
Then there's other instances which I am very much embarrassed

717
00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:37.800
and I had to say at a much younger age

718
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:43.920
of course, where maybe something like alcohol can also do

719
00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:46.760
the same thing, and driving or whatever else things you

720
00:49:46.760 --> 00:49:49.239
should be doing, but you know, you're young and dumb

721
00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:51.719
and do things and then again you win. It's time.

722
00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:58.360
So that there are obviously very clear scientific explanation as

723
00:49:58.360 --> 00:50:01.079
to why we have time slips, and it's mostly due

724
00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:04.079
to our own minds that are checked out in some

725
00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:09.639
form or manner. But you know, whether or not that's the

726
00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:12.880
case with all of these particular time clips that we've

727
00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:18.920
seen within some of these reviews, some of these books,

728
00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:21.800
of the stories that we see online, one can only say,

729
00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:24.440
I mean, all we can do is take their their

730
00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:27.800
story at face value.

731
00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:34.079
Yeah, the severe weather, what do you think on that one?

732
00:50:34.159 --> 00:50:37.519
Severe weather? Yeah, I mean I think that's very very probable,

733
00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:39.920
only because I know, like I like I said, I

734
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:42.079
spend a lot of time in the tropics, you know that,

735
00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:45.719
since I was three years old, so going down to

736
00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:48.920
the you know, southern North Carolina and spent time in Georgia.

737
00:50:49.320 --> 00:50:52.639
I've been to Florida plenty of times, and even here

738
00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:56.119
again off a lake area, like severe weather pops up

739
00:50:56.159 --> 00:50:58.800
out of nowhere. It's it's not on the radar. And

740
00:50:58.840 --> 00:51:01.440
then boom, all a sudden is and hearing like a

741
00:51:01.519 --> 00:51:06.119
level four level five threat. So that is very, very

742
00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:09.599
possible that there are just freak starts that develop. They're

743
00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:13.360
strong enough to take out, you know, whatever is flying

744
00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:15.800
or on the sea, and then boom, they scatter and

745
00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:18.840
disappear and it's like nothing was ever there, and there's

746
00:51:18.920 --> 00:51:21.679
rarely ever any evidence left behind, especially in the middle

747
00:51:21.679 --> 00:51:25.440
of the ocean. Right on land you can see damage,

748
00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:28.920
but in the ocean it just looks the same when

749
00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:32.599
before the storm and after. So yeah, I think it's

750
00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:34.960
a very strong explanation, and I think it's a very

751
00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:38.920
strong possibility. Was that the case for every one of

752
00:51:38.920 --> 00:51:42.920
these cases, No, probably not, but at least for a

753
00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:45.639
few of them, I think it very much is a

754
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:46.599
strong possibility.

755
00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:47.800
Yeah.

756
00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:50.920
Well, and like I said, we didn't mention all of

757
00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:54.920
the instances, just the more well known ones, right, because there,

758
00:51:55.039 --> 00:51:59.840
like you mentioned, there have been instances where people seemingly

759
00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:02.280
disappear and then all of a sudden are back. They

760
00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:04.719
have no knowledge of how they got where they are,

761
00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:10.760
or they report before that happened, mechanical errors were happening

762
00:52:10.840 --> 00:52:13.800
with the compass or even with other gauges on their

763
00:52:14.320 --> 00:52:15.599
ship or plane.

764
00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:18.239
So severe weather.

765
00:52:18.320 --> 00:52:24.159
Yeah, especially around the eighteen eighty mark, we didn't have

766
00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:29.519
the technology of radar in the sky and tracking whether

767
00:52:29.639 --> 00:52:36.920
as much as we do now. Gulf Stream, I think

768
00:52:37.039 --> 00:52:40.280
is a pretty good possibility of at least not finding

769
00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:46.920
those ships and planes, whether it caused them to go

770
00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:51.440
off course. I mean, I'm sure it's possible. How likely

771
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:54.480
that is. I've never driven a boat, so I could

772
00:52:54.599 --> 00:53:03.760
tell you right. The methane gas, yes, that.

773
00:53:03.639 --> 00:53:06.920
One again, I mean, that's that's a tough one. I

774
00:53:06.920 --> 00:53:11.440
think there's a possibility. But again, I think at least

775
00:53:11.480 --> 00:53:14.440
in more modern times, if there was indeed a true

776
00:53:14.519 --> 00:53:19.119
mythin gas leak or whatever that's big enough to take

777
00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:26.079
down an entire cargo ship, then there would be some

778
00:53:26.199 --> 00:53:32.880
geological that's the termin I'm looking for, you know, it's.

779
00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:35.679
Like seismic activity, Yes, seismic activity that would easily be

780
00:53:35.719 --> 00:53:40.079
picked up by any number of sensors out there on Booish,

781
00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:43.199
throughout the ocean, through the Atlantic and Pacific for that matter.

782
00:53:43.800 --> 00:53:47.239
So using that as an account or a possibility for

783
00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:50.519
some of these maybe in the early years you know

784
00:53:50.719 --> 00:53:55.679
of ceignic activity tracking and weather tracking, but more recently,

785
00:53:55.760 --> 00:53:57.960
I don't think some, not at all. There's there's I

786
00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:00.039
don't think there's a chance that that would happen. You

787
00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:01.039
wouldn't know about it.

788
00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:04.960
Right well, and both the methane gas and the Gulf

789
00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:10.000
stream would not explain for the airplanes that went missing, obviously,

790
00:54:10.280 --> 00:54:17.000
but right, so for the boats. Yeah, I think again

791
00:54:17.480 --> 00:54:20.360
back when we didn't have the technology to track those

792
00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:25.239
things other than holy crap, the ground is shaking, Yeah,

793
00:54:25.800 --> 00:54:29.039
I think that we probably wouldn't have noticed or known

794
00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:33.360
that it would had happened. And then the human error

795
00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:36.679
and mechanical failure. We've already discussed it in some of

796
00:54:36.719 --> 00:54:41.880
these instances, I think you could say yes, But in

797
00:54:41.960 --> 00:54:45.719
the majority of them where the reports are happening of

798
00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:55.960
compasses going out or other mechanical gauge issues, I don't

799
00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:59.360
think it's as likely, Especially like you mentioned, there were

800
00:55:01.039 --> 00:55:04.199
five ships that went in didn't come out, and then

801
00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:08.079
the other ship went in searching for them and didn't

802
00:55:08.119 --> 00:55:11.199
come right. Well, Yeah, and that you just can't That

803
00:55:11.199 --> 00:55:12.719
would be a lot of mechanical vailue.

804
00:55:13.159 --> 00:55:15.480
Right, There's a lot of mechanical failure, it's a lot

805
00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:18.760
of human error. That's a lot of all kinds of

806
00:55:18.840 --> 00:55:21.440
various things, right, So that is that one just can't

807
00:55:21.480 --> 00:55:23.000
be explained. I don't think I don't think that could

808
00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:28.119
be explained at all. And it doesn't make sense that

809
00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:33.440
should not happen. Ever, and yet it's happened multiple times

810
00:55:33.480 --> 00:55:37.519
into different areas of the world that happened to really

811
00:55:37.639 --> 00:55:42.639
seemed to be interconnected in some very real way. Like

812
00:55:42.719 --> 00:55:45.320
if you were to drill a whole through the center

813
00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:48.400
of the bringa a triangle, you would come out roughly

814
00:55:48.440 --> 00:55:53.360
in the center of the dragon's triangle. And that's odd, right,

815
00:55:53.760 --> 00:55:54.800
that's super weird.

816
00:55:55.159 --> 00:56:00.000
Yeah, well, and this has improven but with the Nolge

817
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:07.679
edge of lay lines and things of that nature where

818
00:56:08.280 --> 00:56:13.760
that connection would be a possibility too, or the portals.

819
00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:19.519
But we in the past have talked about the hollow

820
00:56:19.519 --> 00:56:22.920
earth theory and stuff like that, and maybe there is

821
00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:24.719
some truth to that or not. I don't I'm not

822
00:56:24.760 --> 00:56:27.639
saying I believe it, but it would make sense why

823
00:56:27.679 --> 00:56:32.360
those two areas would be connected, sort of a straight

824
00:56:32.400 --> 00:56:40.719
line from one to the other. Right, any final thoughts,

825
00:56:41.079 --> 00:56:44.639
and don't say no, and then say but give me.

826
00:56:44.639 --> 00:56:55.119
A moment that then nok, but no, no.

827
00:56:54.880 --> 00:57:01.800
Not even gonna say the word, yeah, this is one

828
00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:05.639
that is a phenomenon that I've always been interested in,

829
00:57:05.800 --> 00:57:10.840
but can't say one hundred percent if this phenomenon is.

830
00:57:11.440 --> 00:57:16.760
Real or not, or what the cause would be. But

831
00:57:17.320 --> 00:57:18.360
if you guys.

832
00:57:19.480 --> 00:57:23.760
Heard any flaws in what we came across, UH definitely

833
00:57:23.800 --> 00:57:27.079
pointed out to us. We don't like giving out wrong information,

834
00:57:27.280 --> 00:57:31.320
so we will gladly correct ourselves if need be, but

835
00:57:31.519 --> 00:57:33.920
definitely do the research and reach out to us because

836
00:57:33.920 --> 00:57:36.800
there's a lot of different theories out there about the

837
00:57:37.039 --> 00:57:41.000
Bermuna Triangle, the Dragon triangle, and we would love to

838
00:57:41.039 --> 00:57:44.559
hear others, So make sure you're putting in the comments

839
00:57:44.679 --> 00:57:49.440
of wherever you listen or watch. Next week, like I mentioned,

840
00:57:49.480 --> 00:57:53.519
we're going to do another factor fiction, was Atlantis Real,

841
00:57:54.079 --> 00:57:58.119
And we'll delve deeper into the theories that are out

842
00:57:58.119 --> 00:58:03.400
there because there's some interesting ones. If there is any

843
00:58:03.440 --> 00:58:06.599
evidence at all of Atlantis again, we'll.

844
00:58:06.400 --> 00:58:07.000
Get into that.

845
00:58:07.159 --> 00:58:14.039
I know of some, and then we've got Richard, Paulomisano

846
00:58:14.320 --> 00:58:17.440
and Peter Rowe the week after that for the Complete

847
00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:22.360
Paranormal Investigation Handbook, which will be awesome for us because

848
00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:24.480
we've always wanted to write one, so It'll be interesting

849
00:58:24.519 --> 00:58:27.519
to see what they have in their handbook for sure.

850
00:58:30.639 --> 00:58:33.119
But yeah, that's pretty much all we got for you guys.

851
00:58:33.960 --> 00:58:37.400
As always, make sure you like, share, subscribe no matter

852
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853
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855
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least one more coming on, probably a few more coming on,

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861
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