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Coming up on Paratruth Reborn, I'm gonna be talking to
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Jessmine Angelica about the Llewellens Book of the Moon.
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Welcome, Well, do parry Truth Truth?
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How's it going Paratruthers. Welcome to another episode of Paratruth Reborn.
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My name is Justin and I'm very excited to welcome
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lady Jessmine Angelica to the show. Jasmine, Welcome to Paratruth Reborn.
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Hi, thank you so much for having me.
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Yeah, absolutely so. Before we get into the book itself,
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what first drew you to the path of the Moon.
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Well, that is an interesting question because I feel like
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I have always always been drawn to the moon. My
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mom loves to tell this story that when I was
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a little girl, before I could even talk, I would
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see the moon and I would wave my arms and
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I would yell and she'd have to lift me up
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so that I could get closer to the moon. So
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I don't even have any conscious memory of this, but
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I do know that I've always had this attraction to
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the moon.
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Okay, And they never could tell, like what the reason
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was anything like that. It was just you were fascinated
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with the moon.
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It was just my thing.
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That's interesting. So what made you want to write the book?
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Oh goodness, So I have been following this path.
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For thirty very much closer to forty years at this point,
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and we have a whole community that practices moon magic together,
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and it got to the point where I realized that
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it was now or never.
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That I needed to set these things down now before
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it was too late. So this book is really a
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compendium of my own practice and the work that we've
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done in community over decades. So it's tried and true
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kind of things in there, practical things as well as
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ceremonial aspects.
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When did the Sisterhood of the Moon start.
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The Sisterhood of the Moon began in twenty ten, so
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we turned sixteen this past February.
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Okay, And it's just a bunch of people that are
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attuned to like moon magic or the moon itself.
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It's a lot of magic. We do ritual once a month.
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Most of our gatherings are women only, so we're doing
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women's magic in women's circle. My own background owned in
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this spirituality witchcraft even goes back to the women's spirituality
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movement of the nineteen seventies, so we're really informed by
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that kind of feminist structure around egalitarian magic and practice.
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Okay, interesting, Now, what does it truly mean to work
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with the moon?
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Well, that's a question and a half right there. Well,
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for me, I like to look back at the moon
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as humanity's first calendar and humanity's first clock. And when
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we begin to learn how to time our own lives
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with the cycling in the moon, we can slow down
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our everyday activities and instead of running in this post
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capitalistic sprint that we're all living through right now, we
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can learn to kind of slow things, savor things, learn
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when it's best to do things that are outward and
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when it's best to do things that are inward. So
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for me, it's really about bringing a sense of mindfulness
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to everyday life, not just in a magical or ritualistic sense,
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but in my everyday practice.
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Okay, Now, this was a question that was submitted by
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a listener, and she puts it very much better than
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how I had worded it. So, how true is it
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that a full moon causes odd things to happen or
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are these just coincidences?
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I believe that the full moon causes odd things to happen,
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and I think this is true because the moon is
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at the highest point of the cycle at the full moon,
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so it's exerting a greater pull on everyone. And when
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we consider the fact that our adult bodies or are
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about sixty percent water, and that the moon pulls tides
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in the oceans, it makes a lot of sense to
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me that wild things happen during the full moon. Now,
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some people feel really energize during the full moon and
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want to go out and do all sorts of fun stuff,
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and there's other people that the full moon becomes more
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of an internal thing for them and they want to
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kind of be at home, hiding away. And it really
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depends on what moon you were born under and what
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sign of the moon you were born under how you
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interact with the phases. So not only is there kind
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of like a protocol for every phase in general, there's
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also a very personal aspect to working with the moon.
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Well, that's actually a good segue into my second listener question,
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Like this is actually from my mom. She says, to
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my zodiac is cancer also known as moonchild? Does the
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moon actually have more effect on me as opposed to
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someone not born under that sign?
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All right, Well, I love that question from your mom
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because I'm also a Cancerrian, so my son is in
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cancer and this is the sign that the moon is
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considered most at home, and this is the sign that's
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literally ruled by the moon. So every zodiacal sign is
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ruled by a different planet, and Cancerrians are ruled by
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the moon. So yes, mom, you are probably feeling it
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more than other people are, because I know that I do,
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and I think that is part of my connection to
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the moon. You were asking about, like how why do
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you have this connection from being so small? It could
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also be that that's my home planet. The moon is
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considered a planet in classical astrology.
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Okay, for beginners, where should someone start when it comes
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to moon magic?
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Well, the first thing in my feeling is that we
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develop first a personal relationship with the moon, because then
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we know how the moon interacts with our own unique nature.
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And the absolute best place to start, I think, is
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to look for the moon every single day, so choosing
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a time of day or night and making it a
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thing that you do consistently every single day for at
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least a year, and then you start to know where
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the Moon's going to be before she's there, because there's
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sometimes you can see the moon and sometimes you can't,
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but you start to develop this organic understanding of where
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the moon is and also how she influences you personally.
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So how the moon interacts with me is going to
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be different than how she interacts with you, and it's
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up for us up to us to each develop that
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relationship because it is a really unique individual relationship that
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each person has with the moon.
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Now you're calling it a her. Is moon kind of
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considered a feminine energy?
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Well, you know, it really depends on the tradition that
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you come from. So there are deities that are both
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masculine and feminine associated with the moon. There are also
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non binary deities that are associated with the Moon. I
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grew up calling the moon her, so that always slips
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out because I'm a goddess worshiper. I don't worship God's
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so the she is really kind of my home frequency
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with the moon. Other people may experience it differently, but
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I grew up calling her like grandmother Moon or Mama
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Moon or sister Moon. So there's always been that femininity
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to me, and that resonates with who I am. Now,
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you know, your mileage will vary, Like the moon is
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so old that I don't think she really is gendered,
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but every planet is assigned kind of a masculine or
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feminine energy in classical astrology. So that's that's my little
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spiel about the moon, as is she.
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All right? Well, and that's fair enough. I mean I
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remember studying astrology, so that makes a lot of sense
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that you attribute it to that. So, now, how does
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moon work connect to intuition and psychic development? And this
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actually really does fascinate me since I had started developing
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for a very long time now, so I'm interested to
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hear your thoughts on that.
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So the moon is said to rule intuition and to
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rule our psychic nature, and the home element of the
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moon is water, which is also connected to our intuition
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and to our psychic abilities. And I do believe that
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everyone has psychic abilities and that we all have intuition.
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It's just learning how do we tap in to that
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knowledge inside of us and to that wisdom inside of us.
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And when the moon is in various phases, you can
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work with her in different ways. So I prefer to
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work with the psychic arts when the moon is waning,
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and especially when she's in that final part before she
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goes new, so that waning crescent that dark moon. I
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really like to engage with divinatory arts using the moon
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during that time, So I might do terrot spreads using
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the moon. I might do scrying in water and seeing
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what comes up from there, because not only do we
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receive information from the moon, but we can also receive
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that deep inner wisdom from ourselves when we're scrying that
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we're not really aware of until we enter into that
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space where we're really connecting into the energies and the
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vibrations of the moon. And I really love when the
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moon is in a water sign to do this work.
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In particular, so Scorpio Pisces cancer, that can really help
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to enhance the information that we get from our intuition
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and from our psychic nature.
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Now, that's interesting you brought that up. Is because I've
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always heard people saying during like the new moon portals
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opening and that that is like the best time to
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start putting your intentions out there for what you want
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to manifest. Is that true?
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It is true because that's the beginning of the cycle.
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So when we're timing our lives with her tides, we're
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going to look at the whole cycle as a continuum.
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So there are eight scientific phases, but lately I've been
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playing around with something that I've been calling the four
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phasal pillars, and that is two points and two waves.
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So we have the point of the new moon, and
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that is the beginning point of the lunar cycle, which
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is about twenty nine ish days depending on the cycle.
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It varies a little bit here and there. So I've
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been New Moon. That is the seed that we're planting
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for the whole rest of the lunation. So that's the
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first point. And then as the moon waxes, we have
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that waxing wave, which is the tide rising, rising, rising
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until we hit that full moon, and that's the point
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of culmination and celebration and just really feeling the power
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of everything that we've been working on for that whole cycle.
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And then once we hit that pinnacle, the only place
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to go is down, So then you have that waning
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wave that brings us all the way back down to
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the new moon where we can begin again. So I
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like to use the new moon to consider what i
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want to do during that waxing wave. I'm not necessarily
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going to take action at the new moon, but I
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am going to dream into what I want to manifest
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Over that next twenty nine is days, I'm going to
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do some brainstorming. I'm going to do some visioning. I
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might do a tourou or other kind of reading to
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see what other information might come down towards me. For that,
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I might start to make plans, look at my calendar
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and feel into what might be the best time to
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schedule certain things. So the new moon is really kind
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of a spark that can jump, that we can jump
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off of into the whole rest of the lunation.
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Now, can working with lunar cycles actually change your life trajectory?
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I feel that they can because we're not just blindly
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moving through life anymore where literally working with that cycle,
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that rising, the peaking, the falling. So there's time built
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in for rest and relaxation and rejuvenation, which I think
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can really change our modern lives. We don't really give
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ourselves time to relax and rest and refill unless we
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force ourselves to. And I really feel like that last
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part of the lunar cycle, if we're flowing with it,
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we can feel that need to pull within, to go within,
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to just take a break, to give our brains, our bodies,
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our minds, our spirits, that relaxation and then we can
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be refreshed and start that whole cycle back over again
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instead of just this one continual straight line that we
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tend to run in that brings us usually into burnout
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and depression, anxiety, stress, all those things that happen when
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we're not taking care of ourselves. So built into the
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Moon's cycle is that time for self care. We just
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listen and I'm not saying, oh, we're going to do
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it for twenty nine days, but there's there's three days
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that are really built in to every cycle where we
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can just think about taking care of ourselves and then
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enact something. It doesn't have to be, oh, I'm taking
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the whole day off from work, but it can be like, Okay,
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I'm gonna do this thing for myself. I'm gonna, you know,
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give myself an extra hour sleep, or I'm going to
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read this novel that I've been longing to read. Or
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I'm going to take that walk, or I'm going to
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go to the beach, play hooky for the day and
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just give my spirit a moment to just pause. So
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I think that pause is an essential component of alignment
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for us as humans that we have forgotten about.
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You brought up goddesses at the beginning there, What role
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do luer goddesses play in this practice?
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In my personal practice, they play a very large role,
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and within our community they play a large role, although
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we do work with goddesses that are necessarily lunar goddesses.
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But for me, the Moon herself is a goddess, So
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I will sometimes call her Selene or Luna and then
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other names as well, But I do view the Moon
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as deity, not always. So she's one of those sacred paradoxes, right,
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She's a satellite of our Earth moving around us at
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all times, But she's also the personification of a deity,
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of something greater, of something bigger, of all that is
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in some ways. And one of the things that I
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love about the Moon is that she has witnessed every
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moment of humanity. Every human that's ever lived has been
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able to gaze up at the Moon, and the Moon
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has witnessed every single thing that's ever happened on this planet.
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And that just always gives me this feeling of connectedness
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and that bigness that makes me feel small, and that
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smallness really is a comfort to me in many ways.
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How do dreams tie into lunar energy and divination.
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Does it affect those things very much, so, very much so.
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And as one works of the moon, they'll discover at
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what point in the cycle that they dream more, where
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they sleep deeper, where they might not remember dreams at all.
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And you can ask the moon for a dream before
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you go to bed. You can petition the moon for
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a dream that will perhaps shed light on a conundrum
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that you're working with, or just something that might sort
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something or untangle something for you in your life. And
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I really have always felt, you know, dreaming, divination, intuition,
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psychic abilities, gut feelings, flashes of insight, epiphanies, all of
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these things, to me are intertwined with one another. All
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of these threads can come together and help us create
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richer lives for ourselves here on Earth, and the Moon
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can illuminate things for us that might have been hidden.
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You know, she's very much connected to our subconscious, and
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that's where a lot of that inner wisdom rises up from,
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is the subconscious, which might be our subconscious, or might
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even be the subconscious of our ancestors, our epigenetic subconscious
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rising up, and the Moon can shine that light so
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that we can actually see, making the visible the invisible visible,
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making the unconscious conscious, bringing it into our waking lives
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so that we can move forward with more information.
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Now I've heard this, and I don't know how true
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it is, but that the word lunatic or lunacy came
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from the belief that it was the moon that was
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causing mental issues. How true is that?
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It's very true? It's very true. It's the same root
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in language. And yes, people did believe that the moon
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made people crazy. I mean, look at werewolves and such that.
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You know that's the full moon right there. So yes,
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that that is correct. I know the full moon can
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make us all a little bit wild, though in the
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good ways. So I like to like claim the title
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lunatic in that kind of celebratory, relevatory way instead.
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Of the negative way.
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Very much.
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What are the biggest misconceptions about witchcraft and moon magic?
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The people tell you?
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Well, I think like the biggest misconception about witchcraft is
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that it is of devil, which is, don't have a devil.
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That's a Christian construct, So we don't have we don't
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have a devil in our in our spirituality. So I
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think that's the biggest misconception. And I also think that
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people believe that witchcraft is like the Hollywood style witchcraft,
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you know, the wiggling of the nose, the snapping the fingers,
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that like you know, something happens. But that's really not
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how it works. And maybe it works for some people
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that way. I've never met those people yet.
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And if you are one of those people and you're listening,
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get in touch with me.
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I really wor a lot. But witchcrad to me is
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more of a path of self development and self understanding
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and growing and changing and becoming the best person I
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can possibly be in this lifetime. I think it's a
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lot to do with self reflection and mindfulness and knowing
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that we do have the power to influence reality on
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many different levels, so setting those intentions and making things happen.
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When you set an intention or do a spell in witchcraft,
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you don't just do that and right walk away. You
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still have to do the things in physical reality to
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make that happen. And so you know, the example people
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use is, well, you don't do a spell to get
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a job, and then you don't put your resume out
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there and you just you know, wait at home for
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somebody to call you up. So you have to keep
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taking action as well. You have to keep walking that
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path in the physical and the metaphysical realities. You do both.
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I think that's one thing that people get confused with
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with when somebody says, set your intention. Just setting the
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intention isn't going to do anything. You have to also
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manifest the reality of it. And that includes yeah, like
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you're saying, the physical side of.
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It exactly exactly, So yes, set those intentions on the
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new moon, and then as that cycle is waxing, make
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your plans. How are you going to manifest this? What
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are your steps? And then take the steps you know,
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just you have to take them too. So I think
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it's also important to note that the new moon intentions
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that we set, even if we're working really hard to
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manifest them, the chances of them manifesting at the first
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full moon are pretty low. Right, We don't manifest things instantaneously.
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Those dreams and hopes that we have will plant that
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seed at the new moon, but it might take several lunations.
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It might take several years of lunations for a dream
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to manifest, depending upon how big that dream is and
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how things are lining up. And also if we're ready
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to actually manifest that dream. We all talk about what
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we want to manifest, but sometimes we're actually not ready
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to accept the manifestation of that. So it's not going
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to happen very quickly in that case, or it might
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happen and we might not recognize it because it doesn't
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look the way that we have a preconceived notion about.
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Well, right, in the same and age, it's very much
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a instant gratification. So I feel where you're coming from there,
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and same thing like the the magic you see in Hollywood. Yeah,
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if we could shoot energy bolts out of our hands
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and stuff like it wasn't on the movies, I'm sure
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people would be trying to do it all the time.
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Oh yeah, there would be a lot of chaos happening
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if we were capable of that.
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Now, there's many different magical practice out there. What's the
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difference between moon magic and those other practices?
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Well, I mean chrinas, there are so many different practices,
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and I can really only speak to what I do,
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and that is really just digging deep into what the
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moon is doing on a daily basis and letting that
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guide my actions. So letting that lead me so for example,
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today we have the moon waning in the sign of Capricorn.
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So waning moon work is the work of releasing and letting.
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Go, of pruning, of composting, of taking a really good
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hard look at those things that are holding us back
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and making the plans to remove them.
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And because the moon is in an Earth sign today
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in Capricorn, this would be things on the physical, earthy level, right,
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it's an Earth sign, So practical matters are things that
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I tend to on a daylight today, So decluttering something,
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also looking at things like finances, help gardening. I did
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some gardening today, some weeding, and using that too as
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a metaphor for things that I want to weed out
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of my life, So weeding those plants away and naming
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those things that I'm letting go of at the same
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time and really following that cycle. So also like, so
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we're waning now, and I'll look ahead and I'll make plans. Okay,
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what am I going to do when we get towards
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the dark moon, towards the end of that lunar cycle?
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How am I going to rest? How am I going
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to honor myself? How am I going to make space
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for that rejuvenation? For that replenishment so that I can
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be ready for that cycle to start again when it does,
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and really just every single day connecting with the moon. So,
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like I mentioned early earlier, looking for her in the
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sky and you can look day or night. The moon
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is not just visible at night, and it's not strange
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when she's visible during the day. I saw this very
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wild thing on the internet a couple of weeks ago
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where people were freaking out because they saw the moon
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during the day and they thought that, you know, that
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was the sign that you know, something really crazy was
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about to happen in the world.
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At times, yeah, yes.
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And I'm like, no, like, how long have you been alive?
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Because the Momon can be seen during the day just
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as often as at night. It really does depend though,
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come where you live, what time of year it is,
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where the moon is in the cycle, because we have
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to remember, the moon doesn't have her own light source.
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The moon is always reflecting and carrying the light of
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the sun, so she doesn't have her own light and
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we can't see the moon day or night. During that
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dark moon new moon phase. There's about three ish five
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ish days there towards the end of one cycle. The
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beginning of the next where we're not going to be
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able to see the moon at all, but looking for
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the moon every day, even if you know that you're
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not going to see her, so you can get in
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that flow. And every morning I also offer water to
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the moon, and then the next day I'll pour it out,
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perhaps in a houseplant or outdoors, depending on what feels right.
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I'll also bless water, hold it up to the moon,
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bless it and drink that in as a way of
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connecting with the Moon and deepening my connection and relationship
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and practice with her. So, like I mentioned earlier, water
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is her home element. Water is a really great way
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to deepen connection in a very easy way. I mean,
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most of us live where we can just you know,
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get water out of our tap and connect with it
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in that way and connect with the Moon through that.
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Now I've heard people talk about moonwater and stuff like that,
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when you drink it, or even when you're watering plants
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stuff with it, does it show like a more energetic
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feel to you compared to just drinking regular water.
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I do feel that it does contain that, and I
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do try to always know not only the phase of
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the moon, but the sign that she's into, so I
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can really start differentiating the difference between each of the signs,
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but especially each of the elements, so air, fire, water,
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and earth. There's three astrological signs that go in each
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of the elements of life, and noticing how I feel
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like I'm going to feel very differently when the moon
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is in a water sign, then when the moon is
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in an air sign, because A, I mean can't there
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in sun, so I'm already resonating with the element of water.
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And then b I have a fire moon. My birth
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moon is in a fire sign, so I can really
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feel that. But really learning over these years to make
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peace with the air and the earth moons have been
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a really big thing for me, especially the earth moons,
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but getting to know them has really changed my life
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in my practice in really beautiful ways. So I really
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I invite everyone to do this water practice and to
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drink it or just hold it. But when we drink it,
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I feel like we can really connect more deeply with
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what's happening in our body and how our body is
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resonating with what those vibrations are in the moon. And again,
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you don't have to be able to see the moon
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to ask for her raise her vibrations, her frequencies to
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come into that water. And I know that sounds out there,
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but try it and see and let me know, let
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me know how it goes for you.
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Now you've brought up a couple times now about the
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moon being in different astrological times? Does that affect the
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outcome of a spell? Like, depending on where what sign
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it's in.
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It definitely can. And I would say not so much
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adverse reaction, but that it can help to empower. If
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you time your spell in a certain way with the
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lunar phase and then the lunar what I call frequency,
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which means the constellation she's passing through, you can use
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that extra power to really move your spell more quickly. So,
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for example, if you wanted to do something that has
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to do with intellectual pursuit, so say writing, for example,
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it would be good to time your spell when the
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moon is in an air sign because that is related
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to vision, inspiration, intellectual pursuits. Air signs are also good
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if you want to do social activities because Gemini and
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Libra are really connected with people. So if you're why
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to do something with partnership or other people, if you
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have a difficult conversation, you might want to time that
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to an air moon can be really helpful. So now
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nothing's going to go bad if you time it to
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another moon, but it can help. So I don't think
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that it can be harmful per se if you time
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it wrong. But we're looking for like what causes the
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most amount of fluidity and flow, what can bring the
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most amount of ease and effortlessness, and then timing it
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in that way. And because the moon moves so quickly
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through the signs, at the most, you're going to have
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to wait three days, like yeah, so if you can wait,
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wait it out. And that's why I say everyone should
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get either a paper lunar calendar or put one of
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those apps on your phone, a moon phase and sign app,
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and then you can just look every day and know
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what's happening. And then you can look ahead and be like, hmm,
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could this conversation wait till tomorrow? And if it can
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and that's an air sign, then then that's the time
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to do it. So it's really not that hard once
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you move into flow with learning where the moon is,
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learning what she's doing, and feeling into those vibrations and
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also how they react to you. So As I mentioned earlier,
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some people feel really inspired during the full moon. Other
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people feel really drained. If you're someone who feels really drained,
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the don't plan something that's going to require a lot
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of energy but the full moon.
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Now, working with magic and even being a psyche, how
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do you stay grounded while working with power?
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For energy like this, I do a lot of earthing,
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so a lot of feeling the Earth through the soles51200:31:13.640 --> 00:31:16.839
of my feet and sending from the souls of my51300:31:16.920 --> 00:31:21.759
feet and from my spinal column etheric roots down into51400:31:21.799 --> 00:31:24.599
the Earth and connecting with her that way, sending my51500:31:24.720 --> 00:31:29.599
roots down, down, down, and then breathing the earth the51600:31:29.759 --> 00:31:34.440
energy up into my body. And when I exhale, I'll51700:31:34.480 --> 00:31:37.759
send those things that are not supportive to me. So51800:31:37.880 --> 00:31:41.279
if I am feeling scattered or ungrounded or all over51900:31:41.319 --> 00:31:43.920
the place, I'm going to use my breath to send52000:31:43.920 --> 00:31:47.160
that energy out of my body through my roots, through52100:31:47.200 --> 00:31:49.640
my spinal column which has grown into a tap root,52200:31:49.960 --> 00:31:51.640
and I'm going to send it into the core of52300:31:51.680 --> 00:31:54.920
the earth where that fire is, and I'm going to52400:31:55.000 --> 00:31:58.240
let the Earth take that energy and transform it. And52500:31:58.240 --> 00:32:02.359
then I'm going to breathe and again that earthy grounded energies,52600:32:02.519 --> 00:32:07.000
and those energies are also of stability and strength and52700:32:07.079 --> 00:32:12.279
health and healing, peace, calm, all those energies of stillness52800:32:12.400 --> 00:32:14.519
and quiet, and I'm going to bring those up into52900:32:14.559 --> 00:32:19.039
my body. So when we work with cosmic bodies, it's53000:32:19.119 --> 00:32:23.359
really important that we're also embodied in our physical bodies53100:32:23.880 --> 00:32:27.519
and connected with the earth. So that's really the first53200:32:27.559 --> 00:32:30.480
step if you're going to do lunar magic, is being53300:32:30.599 --> 00:32:33.799
embodied in your own physical body and connected with the53400:32:33.880 --> 00:32:37.680
earth below. And then once you're connected with the earth53500:32:37.839 --> 00:32:38.680
and connected with.53600:32:38.680 --> 00:32:43.119
Your own body, then you can send branches up from53700:32:43.160 --> 00:32:46.559
your shoulders, from your head, from your hair, sending those53800:32:46.559 --> 00:32:49.359
branches up to commune with the moon up there.53900:32:50.559 --> 00:32:57.920
Okay, and this may not apply exactly, But is there54000:32:58.000 --> 00:33:00.960
anything that advanced practitioners you'll get wrong, or can you54100:33:01.039 --> 00:33:01.640
get it wrong?54200:33:03.319 --> 00:33:06.720
I don't think we can get it wrong. It's a54300:33:06.839 --> 00:33:10.559
personal relationship with the moon, right, How can we get54400:33:10.559 --> 00:33:13.799
any of our relationships wrong. I think that the only54500:33:13.839 --> 00:33:17.319
way to get it wrong with the moon is not54600:33:17.480 --> 00:33:19.880
to do it. That's really the only way, you know.54700:33:20.000 --> 00:33:24.039
And so much of magic is trial and error because54800:33:24.079 --> 00:33:26.480
there's so many things that work so here's a spell54900:33:26.640 --> 00:33:29.880
somebody wrote, you know, here's the rituals somebody work, somebody wrote,55000:33:29.880 --> 00:33:32.160
and you do it and you're like, uh, that's flat.55100:33:32.240 --> 00:33:35.599
That didn't work for me. Well, then take that speller55200:33:35.720 --> 00:33:38.759
ritual and create something from it that does work for you.55300:33:39.680 --> 00:33:44.440
It's really about finding our own individual individual ways. So55400:33:44.519 --> 00:33:47.240
of course, you know, paths have been trodden and we55500:33:47.279 --> 00:33:50.119
can follow those paths, and we should follow those paths.55600:33:50.119 --> 00:33:52.200
And it's important to learn from people who have gone55700:33:52.200 --> 00:33:56.319
before us. But it's also important to remember that we55800:33:56.480 --> 00:33:58.599
have what we need inside of us as well, and55900:33:58.599 --> 00:34:03.799
that our intuition can guide us. So, yes, study, learn,56000:34:03.839 --> 00:34:06.599
I think this is so important to be educated. And56100:34:06.640 --> 00:34:09.320
then it's also important to trust ourselves enough that we56200:34:09.360 --> 00:34:12.400
can be educated and soar off from that point and56300:34:12.480 --> 00:34:15.559
learn what it is that we're supposed to bring into56400:34:15.599 --> 00:34:18.440
this world, that unique connection that we have with the56500:34:18.440 --> 00:34:20.159
moon that nobody else has.56600:34:21.280 --> 00:34:27.039
Okay, now that's twice. Now somebody has told me that,56700:34:27.320 --> 00:34:33.760
you know, don't take a written spell as gospel. You56800:34:33.840 --> 00:34:36.480
definitely have to make it your own for it to56900:34:36.519 --> 00:34:38.880
work for you. So that is very much true to57000:34:38.920 --> 00:34:41.239
you then, too, Yes.57100:34:41.159 --> 00:34:44.440
Very much. So I always say that magic is an art,57200:34:45.039 --> 00:34:48.280
it's not a science. So once you learn how things work,57300:34:48.960 --> 00:34:51.440
then you can mess around, just like if you're a cook, right,57400:34:51.639 --> 00:34:53.840
I love to cook. If you know what you're doing57500:34:53.880 --> 00:34:57.920
in the kitchen, you can substitute ingredients without having to57600:34:58.000 --> 00:35:00.679
worry because you already know the protocol of how to57700:35:00.719 --> 00:35:03.400
make and create something. So then you know what you57800:35:03.440 --> 00:35:05.559
can do to make something that you'll like even more57900:35:05.599 --> 00:35:07.760
than the original recipe, or that will work for you58000:35:07.880 --> 00:35:10.840
or your family even more than the original recipe. So58100:35:11.440 --> 00:35:16.159
practice and learn from people who have gone before you. Definitely,58200:35:16.400 --> 00:35:19.239
I think teachers are so important, especially if you can58300:35:19.320 --> 00:35:22.840
learn in person, which is very rare in this day58400:35:22.840 --> 00:35:24.840
and age. But if you can find an in person58500:35:24.920 --> 00:35:27.280
mentor that is just the most perfect thing that you58600:35:27.320 --> 00:35:30.440
could possibly do for yourself. And to go into that58700:35:30.480 --> 00:35:34.119
relationship with humility so that you learn and then be58800:35:34.239 --> 00:35:36.920
brave and try things out and see what works, and58900:35:36.960 --> 00:35:40.119
don't be afraid to fail. I think people are so59000:35:40.320 --> 00:35:44.480
afraid to fail lately that people don't take those risks59100:35:44.519 --> 00:35:46.840
that maybe some of us took years ago before there59200:35:46.920 --> 00:35:49.159
was an Internet, to tell us what we are supposed59300:35:49.159 --> 00:35:51.000
to do next.59400:35:51.599 --> 00:35:57.079
That's I mean that's one hundred percent true. And I59500:35:57.119 --> 00:36:01.440
feel way back in history, you know, finding written spells59600:36:01.440 --> 00:36:04.320
where it's probably not as common as is today as well.59700:36:05.559 --> 00:36:07.679
Yeah, I mean even when I was growing up, like59800:36:08.320 --> 00:36:13.679
I literally had one book for years and years and years.59900:36:13.760 --> 00:36:16.920
I mean I lived in rural New England, but still60000:36:16.960 --> 00:36:19.480
there was no internet, there were no bulletin boards, there60100:36:19.480 --> 00:36:22.000
was no bookstore. You got one book and you studied that.60200:36:22.159 --> 00:36:26.039
Like people of my generation, generation x woho, we would60300:36:26.039 --> 00:36:27.920
have one or two or three books and we would60400:36:27.960 --> 00:36:31.800
learn those books inside out, backward forward, and they became60500:36:31.840 --> 00:36:34.960
a structure that we could then build our own things60600:36:35.159 --> 00:36:38.280
out of. And I think that's important. And you mentioned60700:36:38.320 --> 00:36:44.599
it earlier, like this immediate gratification, that's not reality in magic.60800:36:44.800 --> 00:36:49.000
And I know that things look really pretty on Instagram60900:36:49.119 --> 00:36:52.360
and TikTok et cetera. It makes it look beautiful and easy. Well,61000:36:52.400 --> 00:36:56.119
you know, real magic is not always pretty. It is61100:36:56.199 --> 00:36:59.199
often very unattractive, and it's not a picture that you61200:36:59.320 --> 00:37:02.920
put on the internet. But it works, right, a handful61300:37:03.000 --> 00:37:07.000
of sticks and stones, you know, roots and bones. It's61400:37:07.480 --> 00:37:10.320
it's not supposed to be pretty. Witchcraft isn't supposed to61500:37:10.320 --> 00:37:12.960
be pretty. It's supposed to be primal. It's supposed to61600:37:13.000 --> 00:37:18.320
be real and raw. It's not glossy, it's not.61700:37:20.960 --> 00:37:25.719
Now, how can skeptics approach this with an open mind?61800:37:26.000 --> 00:37:28.960
Because I can guarantee you many skeptics out there that61900:37:29.039 --> 00:37:32.920
listen to the show are already like, well, magic doesn't62000:37:32.920 --> 00:37:33.599
work anyways.62100:37:34.840 --> 00:37:38.440
Yeah, well I feel that, And you know, not all62200:37:38.440 --> 00:37:43.199
witches practice magic. So if you're not interested in magic62300:37:43.239 --> 00:37:45.719
and you don't want to experiment with it, then that's fine.62400:37:45.760 --> 00:37:51.000
I completely understand skepticism. But I would invite everyone to62500:37:51.199 --> 00:37:56.400
still attempt to time your life to the lunar cycle62600:37:56.480 --> 00:37:59.800
and see what happens. And remember that that cycle was62700:38:00.079 --> 00:38:05.119
humanity's original calendar, so our original way to tract the days,62800:38:05.239 --> 00:38:08.440
it's the original month comes from moon month, is what62900:38:08.480 --> 00:38:13.440
I call it. Sometimes, so attempting to take even just63000:38:13.519 --> 00:38:16.239
one lunar cycle and see what it would be like63100:38:16.360 --> 00:38:21.119
if you aligned your habits and your routines and your63200:38:21.159 --> 00:38:27.639
goal setting with that lunation. So the moon influences the tides,63300:38:28.119 --> 00:38:33.320
she influences our bodies, she influences animal migration, she influences63400:38:33.960 --> 00:38:38.320
how plants grow. Even so, if we use lunar magic63500:38:38.480 --> 00:38:43.840
as a framework for kind of our circadian cycle. Using63600:38:44.039 --> 00:38:50.400
those phases and frequencies as a framework, it will remind63700:38:50.559 --> 00:38:53.559
us when we can dream, when we can plan, when63800:38:53.599 --> 00:38:56.599
we can act, when we can rest, And again, you63900:38:56.639 --> 00:39:00.280
can't do it wrong, right, but how to best do64000:39:00.480 --> 00:39:04.440
this so that we can create more fluidity and flow64100:39:04.599 --> 00:39:06.679
in our lives, and so that we can live these64200:39:06.760 --> 00:39:11.679
lives with more intention, with more mindfulness, so we can64300:39:11.760 --> 00:39:15.079
kind of slow our role. I feel like we're all64400:39:15.119 --> 00:39:18.199
missing out on so much because everything moves so fast64500:39:18.320 --> 00:39:23.960
right now. The moon is kind of like a psychological tool.64600:39:24.079 --> 00:39:25.440
So if you don't want to look at her as64700:39:25.440 --> 00:39:27.400
a magical tool, you can look at her as a64800:39:27.440 --> 00:39:34.320
psychological tool. And remember that all cultures throughout all time64900:39:35.280 --> 00:39:38.800
use the moon to represent things like the cycle of65000:39:38.880 --> 00:39:43.280
birth and death and rebirth and the cycle of growing.65100:39:43.400 --> 00:39:47.559
So the seed, then the fruiting or the flowering, then65200:39:47.920 --> 00:39:51.480
the harvest, and then the dying or the dormancy of65300:39:51.480 --> 00:39:54.039
that plant, and then that cycle is starting again, right,65400:39:54.079 --> 00:39:57.440
So the moon can remind us that we can hope65500:39:57.840 --> 00:40:02.480
because that cycle is perpetual, cycle never ever ends, And65600:40:02.880 --> 00:40:07.719
we can apply this ancient symbolism to our modern lives.65700:40:07.760 --> 00:40:11.800
I feel like it can help us to move out65800:40:11.880 --> 00:40:17.559
of that survival mode and into a thriving mode where65900:40:17.599 --> 00:40:22.760
things are more conscious, where we're more mindful about ourselves,66000:40:24.119 --> 00:40:27.480
who we are, where we are, what our role and66100:40:27.559 --> 00:40:31.559
place is in this lifetime. And also to help us66200:40:31.639 --> 00:40:37.800
to focus our creativity to manifest our hopes and our dreams.66300:40:38.079 --> 00:40:40.199
And you don't have to use spell work in order66400:40:40.239 --> 00:40:41.119
to make that happen.66500:40:45.840 --> 00:40:51.960
Now, what does often say through belonging mean in your work? Oh?66600:40:52.000 --> 00:40:56.360
I love this question. So belonging in our tradition is66700:40:56.400 --> 00:41:01.360
a very central point of what we do and the66800:41:01.400 --> 00:41:05.639
way that it is, the way that we approach it66900:41:05.679 --> 00:41:11.239
is really highlighted by a book called Belonging by Tocopah Turner,67000:41:11.320 --> 00:41:15.760
who's an amazing writer, and in this book she talks67100:41:15.800 --> 00:41:20.519
about how we don't need to wait to belong, that67200:41:20.559 --> 00:41:25.159
we need to choose to belong ourselves. So in our67300:41:25.199 --> 00:41:28.920
community and our tradition, we ask for people to bring67400:41:29.039 --> 00:41:32.159
their whole self with them, meaning that you don't have67500:41:32.199 --> 00:41:34.440
to dress a certain way, or be a certain way,67600:41:34.519 --> 00:41:36.480
or act a certain way, or speak a certain way.67700:41:36.519 --> 00:41:40.440
You just need to be exactly who you are and67800:41:40.480 --> 00:41:42.800
to be brave because we have to be really brave67900:41:42.880 --> 00:41:45.039
to be who we are, right, it's a very vulnerable68000:41:45.239 --> 00:41:49.440
place to be just being ourselves, and that in our68100:41:50.039 --> 00:41:55.119
authenticity that we already belong. So we say to newcomers,68200:41:55.159 --> 00:41:58.079
and we say to everyone actually, that if you show68300:41:58.119 --> 00:42:00.519
up to a ritual, if you come through a door,68400:42:01.159 --> 00:42:04.400
that's because you already belong. You don't need to wait68500:42:04.760 --> 00:42:08.360
to be invited to belong. Just stepping through that door68600:42:08.440 --> 00:42:11.519
into space with us means that you already belong, and68700:42:11.559 --> 00:42:15.519
that when you bring your whole self into belonging, that68800:42:15.599 --> 00:42:18.559
you can live a life that's very real and very68900:42:18.599 --> 00:42:22.639
open and very heart centered. And I feel like in69000:42:22.679 --> 00:42:25.960
this time, this is so so needed, and this is69100:42:26.000 --> 00:42:29.880
something that I wish that I had heard as a69200:42:29.880 --> 00:42:33.320
young witch, as a young person, even that I can69300:42:33.400 --> 00:42:35.960
bring my whole self somewhere and that I can choose69400:42:36.000 --> 00:42:39.119
to belong myself to something that I don't need to69500:42:39.159 --> 00:42:43.480
wait and look and hope for someone to reach out69600:42:43.480 --> 00:42:46.079
that hand and invite me in that because I'm already69700:42:46.119 --> 00:42:49.199
in the place, that means that I already belong.69800:42:52.199 --> 00:42:58.199
That's an excellent way to look at it. Now, you've69900:42:58.199 --> 00:43:01.519
been doing this for thirty plus years. How has your70000:43:01.559 --> 00:43:03.960
practice evolved over the years or has it?70100:43:04.840 --> 00:43:08.159
Oh, it's definitely evolved. So you know, I came from70200:43:08.239 --> 00:43:12.239
that one book and then learned and basically I had70300:43:12.239 --> 00:43:15.320
to teach myself pre internet, right, So I taught myself70400:43:15.360 --> 00:43:19.559
for many many years, and you know, attended events here70500:43:19.599 --> 00:43:21.800
and there because there wasn't just like you know, Coven,70600:43:21.800 --> 00:43:24.079
No one's putting out a sign about Joiner Covin like70700:43:24.199 --> 00:43:31.119
back then. And I think as I matured, my practice matured.70800:43:31.159 --> 00:43:33.760
And I think that's for That's probably true for anything70900:43:33.760 --> 00:43:35.599
we do in life, right, you know, we approach it71000:43:35.639 --> 00:43:37.559
as a certain thing, and if we stick with something,71100:43:38.039 --> 00:43:42.000
then that practice matures along with us. And one of71200:43:42.039 --> 00:43:45.840
the most important things that I feel like I studied71300:43:45.880 --> 00:43:49.000
over the years was how to be a good leader.71400:43:50.199 --> 00:43:52.000
And the way I learned how to be a good71500:43:52.079 --> 00:43:55.119
leader was by spending a lot of time with those71600:43:55.119 --> 00:43:58.599
who ended up not being good leaders. So learning what71700:43:58.760 --> 00:44:01.960
not to do, I think was more important in some71800:44:02.000 --> 00:44:05.639
ways than learning what to do, because what you do71900:44:06.360 --> 00:44:08.639
is for me to just be that authentic self that72000:44:08.679 --> 00:44:12.599
we were just talking about. But knowing what doesn't work72100:44:13.320 --> 00:44:15.719
can often be the most helpful thing. I think in72200:44:15.800 --> 00:44:19.199
a lot of in a lot of different places in72300:44:19.239 --> 00:44:22.559
our life, knowing what not to do, what watching what72400:44:22.719 --> 00:44:26.159
doesn't work can be really helpful. And just being willing72500:44:26.239 --> 00:44:29.440
to learn and to know that I don't have all72600:44:29.480 --> 00:44:33.039
the answers, and then I will never ever have all72700:44:33.079 --> 00:44:36.920
the answers, and that that's a really exciting thing. That72800:44:37.000 --> 00:44:40.559
there is always going to be mystery in this world.72900:44:40.599 --> 00:44:43.719
There's always going to be things that we can't explain73000:44:43.880 --> 00:44:48.320
or we don't know why that's happening. And there's a73100:44:48.400 --> 00:44:52.000
concept called the altar of mystery, and I believe it73200:44:52.039 --> 00:44:55.280
comes from Carolyn Casey, but I did learn about it73300:44:55.320 --> 00:44:58.119
from one of my priestess elders named Boo. And the73400:44:58.239 --> 00:45:01.840
alter of mystery is this furic place, right, So it's73500:45:01.840 --> 00:45:04.719
not a physical place, although you could create a physical73600:45:04.800 --> 00:45:08.920
alter mystery. And on this altered mystery we can put73700:45:08.960 --> 00:45:13.239
anything that doesn't make sense, anything that we can't figure out,73800:45:14.039 --> 00:45:16.719
anything that might not be for us to figure out.73900:45:17.039 --> 00:45:19.880
And this could be terrible, awful things that happen in74000:45:19.920 --> 00:45:21.639
the world. Sometimes we need to put those on the74100:45:21.679 --> 00:45:24.960
alter of mystery, or they could be really beautiful, exciting74200:45:25.000 --> 00:45:28.440
things that we put there, and sometimes the mystery is solved,74300:45:29.199 --> 00:45:32.320
and then oftentimes the mystery is not solved, And there's74400:45:32.360 --> 00:45:36.599
something very exciting about that to me, and I feel74500:45:36.599 --> 00:45:39.199
like that's you know why I will never be bored74600:45:39.440 --> 00:45:42.079
in this life, is that there's always mystery out there74700:45:42.280 --> 00:45:43.400
and how beautiful that is.74800:45:45.599 --> 00:45:47.760
With as crazy as the world is right now, I74900:45:47.760 --> 00:45:50.480
think we've got a ton of mystery that we need75000:45:50.519 --> 00:45:52.320
to solve, so we need to put it on that75100:45:52.360 --> 00:45:53.280
alter of mystery.75200:45:53.760 --> 00:45:56.400
Yeah, for sure, there is a lot that needs solving.75300:45:57.119 --> 00:46:00.119
There's a lot that needs solving. And then also to75400:46:00.199 --> 00:46:02.400
remember that there's also a lot of beauty out there,75500:46:03.039 --> 00:46:04.840
because I know I get caught up in all this75600:46:05.039 --> 00:46:08.079
just as much as we all do. Right, we're humans,75700:46:08.480 --> 00:46:10.679
like we want good things for one another, and when75800:46:10.719 --> 00:46:14.559
good things aren't happening, it can be really stressful. And75900:46:14.639 --> 00:46:17.599
I've been really doing my best over the last couple76000:46:17.599 --> 00:46:21.800
of months to be looking for beauty and joy and76100:46:21.840 --> 00:46:25.039
delight and pleasure as well as handling all of the76200:46:25.079 --> 00:46:26.960
things to try to make the world a better place.76300:46:27.079 --> 00:46:27.239
Right.76400:46:27.360 --> 00:46:30.880
I'm not talking about spiritual bypassing. I don't think that's76500:46:30.880 --> 00:46:33.559
of service at all. We each need to do what76600:46:33.599 --> 00:46:36.320
we need to do to make this world better for everyone,76700:46:36.880 --> 00:46:39.880
but to not have that be the only thing we do,76800:46:40.480 --> 00:46:43.360
because we have to be filled up in order to serve.76900:46:43.400 --> 00:46:46.320
We cannot serve from an empty vessel. So making sure77000:46:46.360 --> 00:46:49.360
we're filled up or else will all be burnt out77100:46:49.440 --> 00:46:51.440
and nothing good will come of that. So right now77200:46:51.440 --> 00:46:54.360
I can see roses in bloom outside of the window,77300:46:54.800 --> 00:46:57.360
and that is beautiful to me, and that fills me77400:46:57.440 --> 00:47:01.079
with joy. So I can take that. Okay, I'm filled77500:47:01.159 --> 00:47:03.559
up with this, and now I can serve more because77600:47:03.599 --> 00:47:07.039
I've seen something beautiful and I've allowed myself to witness77700:47:07.079 --> 00:47:09.360
that and take that in and change me in a77800:47:09.400 --> 00:47:12.559
good way.77900:47:13.320 --> 00:47:16.159
We've talked a lot about how things are so much78000:47:16.199 --> 00:47:23.440
different compared to when we were younger, and the easiness78100:47:23.679 --> 00:47:29.639
of finding information now. But one thing that is of78200:47:29.679 --> 00:47:32.280
concern it is spirituality. Like I feel a lot of78300:47:32.320 --> 00:47:35.320
people have fallen away from it, and there are plenty78400:47:35.400 --> 00:47:38.199
that are coming to it just because of the information78500:47:38.559 --> 00:47:43.960
that we can find. Now, why is it inclusive spirituality?78600:47:45.239 --> 00:47:46.920
Why is that so important right now?78700:47:48.639 --> 00:47:51.800
Yeah? Well, I think as we were talking about belonging,78800:47:51.880 --> 00:47:55.320
right people are looking for places to belong and I78900:47:55.360 --> 00:47:58.320
think that is possibly one of the biggest problems in79000:47:58.360 --> 00:48:00.880
the world right now, is people don't feel like they belong.79100:48:00.960 --> 00:48:06.519
People feel isolated and alone. And being inclusive in our79200:48:06.559 --> 00:48:09.599
spirituality means that the door is open. If people want79300:48:09.599 --> 00:48:11.800
to come and learn, will come and learn. If they79400:48:11.800 --> 00:48:13.840
want to come and be in community, will come and79500:48:13.880 --> 00:48:19.039
be in community. And I feel like the world changes79600:48:19.079 --> 00:48:23.239
one person at a time, right like one person feeling belonging,79700:48:23.320 --> 00:48:28.039
one person feeling included, one person feeling witnessed or seen79800:48:28.719 --> 00:48:33.039
in their struggles. One by one by one, those small79900:48:33.119 --> 00:48:36.880
things add up to create tidal waves of really big80000:48:37.000 --> 00:48:40.920
beneficial change. So I think now more than ever, inclusivity80100:48:41.000 --> 00:48:44.280
is important, especially with what's happening in the United States80200:48:44.639 --> 00:48:49.599
where our government is choosing to try to stop people80300:48:49.679 --> 00:48:55.920
from being included in all different realms. So moving we're80400:48:55.960 --> 00:48:59.000
at this precipe, it really does feel like we're at80500:48:59.360 --> 00:49:01.199
the end time, but not like the end of the80600:49:01.199 --> 00:49:04.159
world times, where at the end of a big, big cycle.80700:49:05.159 --> 00:49:07.920
And because of that, you know, there's like the death throws.80800:49:08.119 --> 00:49:11.559
I feel like the death throws are happening, and what80900:49:11.639 --> 00:49:14.440
do we want beyond that? What is our vision for81000:49:14.480 --> 00:49:17.239
the future and what are small steps we can each81100:49:17.360 --> 00:49:23.119
take to get there. And I think being inclusive, belonging, loving,81200:49:24.000 --> 00:49:26.000
that is one of the most important things that we81300:49:26.039 --> 00:49:28.920
can do right now for one another, is really reaching81400:49:28.960 --> 00:49:35.079
out that neighborly kind of connection, like that compassion, that empathy.81500:49:36.039 --> 00:49:41.079
That is one thing we absolutely have lost is being neighbors.81600:49:42.519 --> 00:49:44.960
The funny thing about that is when I moved into81700:49:45.000 --> 00:49:47.880
the place I have right now, our neighbor has been81800:49:47.960 --> 00:49:50.239
like the best person to us, and you don't find81900:49:50.280 --> 00:49:50.960
that anymore.82000:49:52.280 --> 00:49:56.000
Yeah, yeah, And I think it's up to us to82100:49:56.079 --> 00:49:58.480
change it. Each one of us could change that. And82200:49:59.079 --> 00:50:01.079
I feel like the same, Like our block was like82300:50:01.159 --> 00:50:04.400
really kind of strange, and last year we had tons82400:50:04.440 --> 00:50:06.519
of extra produce in our gardens, so we just went82500:50:06.559 --> 00:50:10.199
around knocking on doors and like cucumber bombing people with82600:50:10.320 --> 00:50:12.639
like a little note, you know, you know, from our house,82700:50:13.519 --> 00:50:17.840
and then people started. There's reciprocity going on now because82800:50:17.880 --> 00:50:20.480
of just these little actions of just being like, hi, neighbor,82900:50:20.599 --> 00:50:22.559
Like here's a bag of cucumbers that we can't eat,83000:50:23.199 --> 00:50:26.599
and that planted the seed of like beautiful things that83100:50:26.639 --> 00:50:30.559
are starting to grow. So hyper local I think is83200:50:30.639 --> 00:50:32.840
really the place to go. Like I always say, like83300:50:32.920 --> 00:50:36.760
work on the micro level, find the smallest possible action83400:50:36.920 --> 00:50:40.960
that you can take. Because as above, so below, as below,83500:50:41.199 --> 00:50:43.880
so above, So we talk about the hermetic maxims, but83600:50:44.559 --> 00:50:47.639
micromagic is what I call it, and it's finding the83700:50:47.679 --> 00:50:52.440
smallest possible place to work and planting that seed there83800:50:52.599 --> 00:50:54.719
and letting it grow. So we don't have to have83900:50:54.760 --> 00:50:57.800
a grandiose vision, because sometimes that will mean that we84000:50:57.840 --> 00:51:00.559
don't do anything because that's overwhelming, we don't even know84100:51:00.559 --> 00:51:04.400
where to dive in. But just one small action, choosing84200:51:04.480 --> 00:51:08.119
one small thing. There's so many causes that they think84300:51:08.159 --> 00:51:11.440
that that also makes people feel overwhelmed, and then they84400:51:11.519 --> 00:51:14.400
just end up not doing anything because there's too many choices.84500:51:15.000 --> 00:51:18.920
Choose one thing that's important to you and do one84600:51:19.000 --> 00:51:22.239
small thing to support whatever that is, and then just84700:51:22.320 --> 00:51:26.960
keep doing it and see what happens.84800:51:27.679 --> 00:51:33.000
What is one ritual anyone can start doing tonight using84900:51:33.320 --> 00:51:33.960
moon magic.85000:51:34.960 --> 00:51:37.639
So we've already talked about looking for the moon, and85100:51:37.719 --> 00:51:43.679
we've talked about water. So I think a very easy85200:51:43.960 --> 00:51:47.599
other thing to do would be breath. Right, we all85300:51:47.639 --> 00:51:52.119
have our breath or holds. We're not alive, so Haha,85400:51:53.000 --> 00:51:57.920
consciously breathing the moon into your body and seeing what85500:51:57.960 --> 00:52:02.360
that feels like. So breathing and the moon, asking the85600:52:02.400 --> 00:52:06.239
moon to create more spaciousness and openness in your body,85700:52:07.159 --> 00:52:10.920
and then exhaling anything that you don't need to hold,85800:52:11.320 --> 00:52:13.800
and just slowing down in that way, just slowing down85900:52:13.960 --> 00:52:18.920
three or four or five breaths with the moon every86000:52:18.960 --> 00:52:22.239
time you see her, and then see what happens for you,86100:52:22.320 --> 00:52:26.400
see how that slowness starts moving into other aspects of86200:52:26.440 --> 00:52:30.480
your life and that ritual. You don't need anything at86300:52:30.480 --> 00:52:32.840
all but yourself in the moon, and you don't even86400:52:32.880 --> 00:52:34.400
have to see her, but when you see her, I86500:52:34.480 --> 00:52:37.039
think it's it can be more fun because there's that86600:52:37.159 --> 00:52:40.920
visual connection as well as just that energetic connection.86700:52:43.239 --> 00:52:46.480
Well, you are the second person today to mention that86800:52:46.679 --> 00:52:48.920
breath is a huge part of a practice. The other86900:52:48.920 --> 00:52:52.239
person was talking about shadow work, but I think it87000:52:52.280 --> 00:52:56.559
all applies. And that makes me really think, like, is87100:52:56.559 --> 00:53:00.480
there a message I'm missing? Man? I need to start speaking.87200:53:00.519 --> 00:53:01.639
Time to do more breaths.87300:53:02.039 --> 00:53:05.800
So, Harry, right, conscious breathing. How often do we remember87400:53:05.880 --> 00:53:07.960
to do that? Like there's so many times during the87500:53:08.039 --> 00:53:09.719
day where all of a sudden I realized I've been87600:53:09.760 --> 00:53:12.159
holding my breath and I didn't even know it, or87700:53:12.159 --> 00:53:15.280
that I was breathing really shallowly. And if I just87800:53:15.320 --> 00:53:18.519
stop and do like three or four breaths and tune87900:53:18.519 --> 00:53:23.400
into the moon, I'm like, huh, Like so much stress88000:53:23.440 --> 00:53:26.519
just leaves my body. And you know that's something I88100:53:26.519 --> 00:53:29.159
can do in like a minute. It's a whole reset.88200:53:29.360 --> 00:53:31.719
It's amazing. It's amazing to me.88300:53:34.599 --> 00:53:37.840
What is one thing or multiple things that you hope88400:53:37.840 --> 00:53:38.960
people take from this book?88500:53:40.480 --> 00:53:42.719
Wow? Okay, So I have to just say, first of all,88600:53:42.840 --> 00:53:45.920
that book when I read it, I'm like, who wrote this?88700:53:46.079 --> 00:53:49.320
Like I channeled a lot of it. So most like88800:53:49.360 --> 00:53:52.960
the practices, especially like the herbalism and the rituals, those88900:53:53.039 --> 00:53:55.760
kinds of things, those are my Those are my things,89000:53:55.760 --> 00:53:59.159
but like huge swaths of information, like damn, you were89100:53:59.159 --> 00:54:02.559
in the flow and like I don't even remember writing that, right.89200:54:04.119 --> 00:54:06.840
My favorite stuff in the book that I would love89300:54:06.880 --> 00:54:10.880
for people to experiment with is the green witchcraft, so89400:54:10.960 --> 00:54:16.000
the making of elixirs and potions. This is just kind89500:54:16.039 --> 00:54:19.079
of a home frequency for me, working with the moon89600:54:19.159 --> 00:54:22.079
in conjunction with the plant realm. I'd love for people89700:54:22.119 --> 00:54:25.199
to experiment with that, but I'd also love for people89800:54:25.239 --> 00:54:27.880
to just read the whole book through and see what89900:54:28.079 --> 00:54:31.280
calls to them and then follow that. So the coolest90000:54:31.280 --> 00:54:34.800
thing about this book is you can jump in anywhere.90100:54:35.360 --> 00:54:38.679
It really ended up turning into a big reference book.90200:54:38.760 --> 00:54:41.880
This is not the book that I proposed to Llewellyn,90300:54:42.800 --> 00:54:45.880
but when I turned in the manuscript, my editor was like,90400:54:46.360 --> 00:54:50.480
oh wow, this is really long. Let me get back90500:54:50.480 --> 00:54:53.960
to you, and they came back with retitling it Complete90600:54:53.960 --> 00:54:55.320
Book of the Moon. So I get to add in90700:54:55.360 --> 00:55:00.440
a little bit more stuff too, but I suggest, you know, gosh,90800:55:00.480 --> 00:55:03.599
just kind of diving in, like turning to the pages90900:55:03.599 --> 00:55:07.079
in the book that are highlighting the lunar phase that91000:55:07.159 --> 00:55:10.440
you're in when you pick it up, and then reading that,91100:55:10.880 --> 00:55:13.840
and then going and reading the part that highlights whatever91200:55:13.880 --> 00:55:17.079
the frequency, whatever the constellation is that the moon is91300:55:17.159 --> 00:55:21.039
passing through, and reading that little passage and seeing how91400:55:21.079 --> 00:55:23.800
you feel about that information and if it is resonating91500:55:23.840 --> 00:55:28.119
with you. So that's really easy if you're a Charro reader.91600:55:28.400 --> 00:55:30.519
There's a bunch of Charro spreads in there that I91700:55:30.559 --> 00:55:34.280
really like too, so try those out. There's several that91800:55:34.320 --> 00:55:36.880
are just three card readings, So if you only have91900:55:36.920 --> 00:55:39.199
a few minutes, like popping in with one of those,92000:55:39.800 --> 00:55:43.440
or trying one of the larger spreads that I created92100:55:43.599 --> 00:55:46.679
as well, and then you know, making sure to write92200:55:46.719 --> 00:55:49.800
it down and a photograph that's spread, and then checking92300:55:49.880 --> 00:55:52.239
back in with it to see how it manifested for you,92400:55:52.519 --> 00:55:54.679
which I think is also one of the coolest things.92500:55:54.719 --> 00:55:56.920
I think a lot of times we divine and then92600:55:56.960 --> 00:55:59.400
we forget to note it, and then we don't know.92700:55:59.440 --> 00:56:01.000
But when we take the time to note it, and92800:56:01.000 --> 00:56:03.199
then like I'll come upon like an old notebook and92900:56:03.239 --> 00:56:06.239
be like, oh my gosh, like all this happened like93000:56:06.320 --> 00:56:09.199
exactly the way that that was, but the spread would93100:56:09.239 --> 00:56:11.159
have been done like five years ago. So I just93200:56:11.280 --> 00:56:14.559
I love that kind of stuff, like synchronicity. That is93300:56:14.639 --> 00:56:17.119
just one of my favorite bits of I always say93400:56:17.119 --> 00:56:21.559
synchronicity is magic, but I think synchronicity is actually proof93500:56:21.639 --> 00:56:23.599
of magic, proof of magic.93600:56:23.840 --> 00:56:27.639
Yeah, well, it is about that time to let you go.93700:56:27.760 --> 00:56:29.119
So I did want to give you the chance to93800:56:29.119 --> 00:56:31.559
tell everybody where they can find you find the book93900:56:31.679 --> 00:56:33.000
the Mike Olyers.94000:56:33.440 --> 00:56:38.039
Excellent, Thank you. So my website is Jessmine Angelica dot94100:56:38.079 --> 00:56:41.320
com and my name has one s, so please note94200:56:41.360 --> 00:56:45.599
that Jessamine Antelica dot com. And on social media, I'm94300:56:45.679 --> 00:56:51.880
most active on Instagram, so that's Jessamine Underscore Angelica. And94400:56:51.920 --> 00:56:54.920
you can find my book anywhere books are sold. And94500:56:55.039 --> 00:56:57.320
if you have a local bookstore, it would be really94600:56:57.360 --> 00:56:59.760
cool if you called up and asked if they would,94700:57:00.599 --> 00:57:05.239
because I really love supporting local businesses, especially local bookstores.94800:57:05.280 --> 00:57:09.880
They're so needed. Thank you all so much for being94900:57:09.880 --> 00:57:10.400
here with us.95000:57:11.679 --> 00:57:14.039
Yeah, and thank you for being on Paratruth. I do95100:57:14.119 --> 00:57:17.519
have to say that it is a huge book of knowledge,95200:57:18.039 --> 00:57:21.559
so absolutely get it in your local book But Jessemine,95300:57:21.559 --> 00:57:23.199
thank you for being on Paratruth. You be born.95400:57:23.519 --> 00:57:25.960
Yeah, thank you so much. Justin I really love their talk.95500:57:26.079 --> 00:57:26.519
Thank you.95600:57:28.159 --> 00:57:33.320
All right, folks. That is Jesslemine and Jacka lou Ellen's95700:57:33.360 --> 00:57:36.079
Complete Book of the Moon. I hope you enjoyed this,95800:57:36.199 --> 00:57:38.360
and I hope you check out the book and check95900:57:38.400 --> 00:57:44.280
out Jessmine's work. It is a great addition to your96000:57:44.320 --> 00:57:49.880
paranormal library or your witchcraft library. It's a great book.96100:57:50.880 --> 00:57:54.039
That is it for us this week Paratruthers, and we96200:57:54.159 --> 00:57:58.199
hope that you've enjoyed every minute of this. Make sure96300:57:58.239 --> 00:58:04.440
you're checking out the Facebook Comparatruthers community where again those96400:58:04.480 --> 00:58:09.239
people ask questions. I also had a poll in there96500:58:09.519 --> 00:58:15.440
which a lot of people answered sorry, and it was96600:58:16.480 --> 00:58:18.960
do you believe the moon effects your life? And one96700:58:19.000 --> 00:58:22.760
hundred percent said yes absolutely, and Jessumin has confirmed that96800:58:22.960 --> 00:58:25.880
now as well. So we hope you've enjoyed it until96900:58:25.920 --> 00:58:28.400
next week, folks, where you will find us, same time,97000:58:29.159 --> 00:58:32.119
same show. My name is Justin. I'll talk to gays97100:58:32.199 --> 00:58:32.400
later
