May 20, 2026

Sacred Smoke and Sacred Sips: Rituals That Transform Your Life w/Rhonda Kuykendall-Jabari

Sacred Smoke and Sacred Sips: Rituals That Transform Your Life w/Rhonda Kuykendall-Jabari

Can incense, tea, coffee, and simple rituals really change your mindset and energy? On this episode of ParaTruth: Reborn, Justin and Eric welcome Rhonda Kuykendall-Jabari , author of Burn and Brew Rituals, to discuss spiritual healing, manifestation,...

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Can incense, tea, coffee, and simple rituals really change your mindset and energy?

On this episode of ParaTruth: Reborn, Justin and Eric welcome Rhonda Kuykendall-Jabari , author of Burn and Brew Rituals, to discuss spiritual healing, manifestation, incense blending, sacred spaces, and how intentional daily rituals can help create balance and inner peace.

From herbal practices and meditation to astrology and aromatherapy, this conversation explores how ordinary moments can become meaningful spiritual experiences.

Guest Bio: Rhonda Kuykendall-Jabari is a Reiki Master Teacher, ritualist, aromatherapist, and founder of Wellness Uprising, a Los Angeles-based healing practice dedicated to helping people restore balance through Reiki, chakra healing, meditation, and practical spiritual wellness tools. She is the author of multiple books on healing and ritual, including her newest release, Burn & Brew Rituals: Incense Blends & Cozy Drinks for Balance, Healing, & Inner Peace.

In Burn & Brew Rituals, Rhonda explores the sacred connection between scent, warmth, intention, and everyday healing—teaching readers how to create simple incense blends and comforting drinks that support emotional balance, spiritual grounding, and inner peace. Her work blends ancestral reverence, nervous system care, and accessible ritual practices that help people create more intentional lives.

Through her books, workshops, community programs, and her signature 66 Days of Remote Reiki experience, Rhonda helps people heal in ways that feel both mystical and deeply practical.


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Coming up on Paratruth Reborn, we'll be talking to Rhandakai

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Kendl Jabari about her book burn and brew rituals, incense

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blends and cozy drinks for balance, healing and inner peace. Welcome,

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we do Paratruth Truth. What's up everybody, and welcome to

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Paratruth Reborn.

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My name is Eric and I'm justin and I have

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to say welcome back to my co host.

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Thank you after very long story here a long time,

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I know, seven well, eight weeks. It's it's kind of

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weird coming back after eight weeks because there are things

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and we talked about it this morning after us forgetting

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little bits and pieces of what we normally do for

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the show, say hey do I have to do this?

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We have to do I sent your recording which we

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don't even do anymore. I forgot all about it. But anyway, uh,

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you know, today we have on a guest with us uh,

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and so we are very excited to welcome Randa Kai

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Kendl Jabbari. Uh, Randa, welcome the Paratry.

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If you're born, well, I'm excited to be here. Thank

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you so much.

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Now, when it comes to your book burn and brews,

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burn and brew rituals and sun splends and cozy drinks

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for balance, healing and inner peace. What was it like,

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I guess in general? First, what was it that led

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you towards the ritual work and holistic healing, that led

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you to this book?

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That's something that built up aver time. It became like

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a coping mechanism for me. Whenever I was stressed out,

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whenever I felt confused, whenever I felt like I needed guidance,

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I just kind of went back to that. I think

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part of it is, you know, my grandfather was you know,

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was an earth guy. He was Native American and African American,

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and he was also a sharecropper, so he was very

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much in touch with the land. And just over the

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years I learned that many people in my family do

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you know, do have not that many guy are alive now,

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but in the past have done things like this. So

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I think I inherited this.

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Okay, okay, And what made you want to write the book?

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I had been in the practice of healing and guiding people,

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and you know, I also read Taro and it seemed

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like the next most logical step. I had notes everywhere,

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and I have far less time ahead of me than

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I have behind me, And I was like, how am

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I going to pass this information on and make sure

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that it was long after I So my book was

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the best.

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Way, absolutely, one hundred percent. And you know, people like

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Justin and I we have a full library full of

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all kinds of various practices and belief systems and ritual

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books on rituals. So it's really cool to be able

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to look back at some of these works, especially when

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we're doing our own virtual work and kind of yeah,

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I didn't sound a lot of this too.

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thing about ritual work is that it can be as

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as as simple or as elaborate as your mood, no

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no matter what you're trying to do. You know, for

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some people it's just you know, getting up in the morning,

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bersony teeth and having a cup of coffee, you know,

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other than it's a whole you know, my altar is

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a ridiculous size that sucks, like you know, I think

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it's like six by four or something like. So, you know,

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so what I want to yet elaborate, I can go

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back there and do that work there. Otherwise I'm here

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in my working studio.

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Yeah, but I think that's something that's like a lot

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of people don't understand, you know, they think there has

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to be all or nothing most.

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If you're only doing a little bit, you need to

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stick with that little bit. I do wake up and

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have a cup of coffee on my couch and complete

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silence usually first and foremost. But then there's days where

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I'm having coffee and I'm burning incense and I'm meditating,

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listening to the sounds prodly, you know, And it just

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depends on your mood, and there is no way or wrong.

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It's just following your innerflow, finding that balance based on

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how you're feeling that particular day.

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Yeah, exactly. And actually that this book is more of

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a reference book than anything else, okay, because I want

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everybody to feel free.

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there are all these gurus and experts and specialists and

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and they'll so they'll tell you how to do what

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they have done, but it's different and it's definitely, you know,

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a very personalized and customized taste. So I'm like, well,

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I'll just throw all the elements at people and let

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them figure it.

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Out well.

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And I think what's so really important now that you

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can't you know, teach us in any sort of manner.

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more credibility because oftentimes there's references and there's a whole layout,

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whereas on TikTok we have so many people just throwing

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a bunch of stuff out there. It's like some of

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it lands, some of it doesn't, isn't even real, you know.

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for the views, to make money and profit, you know.

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help people grow become better individuals.

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Yeah, yeah, I think it's it's a natural next step

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from the like you know, I'm coming. I've been doing

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the water on one healing work for a long time

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and now I'm putting word out there and positioning myself

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in a little bit of a different way as a

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guide and hopefully, you know, like I said, people will

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feel empowered to do it however they want to do

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it for sure.

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Well, now, why do you think rituals have such a

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strong psychological and spiritual impact.

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On people who probably and this is just me and

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my opinion, talking. I think it's because we are more

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creatures of habit than anything, and a ritual is nothing

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if not a habit. And so it's something that every

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human can relate to, you know, getting up and doing

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something every day, or doing something the same way every time,

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knowing what to expect, setting a tone for yourself. It

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puts it puts the onus of the energy back on you,

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but at the same time it allows you to to

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co create whatever steps are coming next. And I think

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every every person would love to be able to do that. Yeah.

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Yeah, Well, something that I've learned more and more over

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the years since we've been doing this show, well since

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doing podcast paranormal podcasting, is that intention has a lot

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to do with everything. But how important is it for

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intention when creating a ritual? Is it just as important

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no matter what you're doing.

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I think so. I think we live in a constant

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state of for lack of a better world manifesting, and

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so you're intending all day long, whether you mean to

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or not. So in a ritual where you're trying to

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work toward a specific and I think that intention is everything.

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Everything is driven by intention. Everything.

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Well, I've asked this to other people who when we've

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talked about intention, how do you discern what is strictly intention?

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That is the manifestation of something versus the concern of

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worrying about something too much and believing that might be

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common intention even if you don't want it to be.

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I really I think that that is what happens all

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the time. That's the state we live in. And so

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I don't know, you know, I mean, if you say

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worrying about it, and you know, I don't believe worrying

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and fixation does anything. I think intention is a learned

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skill and so if you you know, it's it's more

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than hoping. But it's not obsessing like like worry is.

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But I do I really believe that we live in

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a constant state of manifesting our intentions, whether that's good

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or bad or and you believe you can, you can.

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If you believe you can't, you can't.

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But yeah, Well, something that I started following of I'm

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going to say a very long time ago wasn't that

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long ago.

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Started reading the Secret and realizing that they want to

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make it more of a if you if you say

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you're going to have it, you're going to have a

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type of thing which is all intention but I feel

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that there you have to put more power into it

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than just this is what's going to happen or this

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is happening to me right now and then it's going

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to come true. There, I feel there's a lot more

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to it to that. Does that Is that true in

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your in your accounts?

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Absolutely? I think that the piece that we often miss

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in me too, because you know it's it's a practiced

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kind of a thing. Is it's one of the best

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things I ever read. I think it might have been

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Abelham Hicks. But it's the feeling to feel as if

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you know even before it happens, and that takes practice

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because our minds tell us that that's a lie. You

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know it's a lie. I don't have it again? Can

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I feel it? How do I know?

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Yeah, But I think it's the feeling that makes it

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so okay?

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What do you think that feeling is dependent on whether

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it's a good feeling or bad feeling, because like I,

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for example, we talked to somebody a couple of months

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ago now who said that when a oh, what's the word?

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When it comes to intuition, for example, when it's something

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that's going to happen, you typically feel peace over it,

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versus when it's something like worry, where you think something

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is intuitive, you feel anxiety over it and therefore it

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isn't true. So do you think that kind of works

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the same way with intention, Like, if you keep believing

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this thing is to happen, you're going to have peace

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over that thing happening. You're not going to be concerned

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about it. There's not going to be any where you're like, oh,

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but what if it doesn't work out? It's just is

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internal and you feel it. You know it's going to happen.

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Who gosh, still are such fine lines like all of that, right,

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all of that is so closely linked. I think that

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that worry is wasted in a that we've thrown about

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things that haven't even happened yet. I might stop breathing

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a few minutes from now, I'm worried about tomorrow.

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So, so that that whole worry piece, to me, it

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is wasted energy. Does that mean I don't worry? No,

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absolutely not. But but I think that that intention, it

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is deliberate, but it can also be accidental.

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Okay, yeah, okay.

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Now back to the book, The something that I think

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a lot of people are going to ask themselves, is

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what are some beginner friendly rituals people can start with today?

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Because I mean there's there's a lot of rituals that

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get very, very in depth, and then there's some that

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you know, you can start right away. I've even talked

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two different witchcraft practitioners and stuff like that as well.

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Where and kind of like you had mentioned to us

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off air and even talking now, is that you know,

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it's a it's a beginner's guide in the sense that

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you can just look through it and then customize it.

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But are there specific rituals that people can just start

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out with?

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Absolutely something? And you know, and again it can be

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as small or as elaborate as you like. As I

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think back to the day, you know, now this is

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me full time, so I man, I have control over

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my time. But when I did not, things had to

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move quickly, especially when I was raising my son. So

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I've you know, the biggest one for me was to

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bring intention into what I was already doing. You're interested

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in developing rituals, look at what you already do every day?

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that pretty much at the same time, the same way

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every day. Set an intention, you know, whatever, whatever you

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want it to be. I think the example of that

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Granddaughter program if was, you know, may my words be sweet,

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may they be intentional? You know, but just pick one thing.

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don't have to lay out where you want to be

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five years from now, leave that for the job interviews,

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so that you can just pick one thing that you

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want to work hard. If you want to start out,

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there's a toxic environment or someone there that you'd rather

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not engage with than when you get up in the

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morning instat as you're thrown on close to the last

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minute running out of the house, how about you just

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stop for a minute and ask to be able to

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either mitigate that energy or side step it all together.

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I really do believe in invisibility, Like you can vibrate

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at a different frequency than the people that you don't

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want to be bothered with and they will ignore you,

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you know. So I think you can start with almost

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anything and all you have to do is bring it

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to your attention. Now it's in the forefront of your mind,

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and we get into mindfulness throughout the day, even if

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you write it down, look at a couple of times,

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you know, throughout the day to bring you back to

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that center again.

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Right, We had granddaughter Crow on the show, so I

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hope she's doing well.

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Yeah, I was with them a couple of weeks ago.

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That was the funnest interview ever of course.

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Next, Yeah, I've been seeing you've been doing the rounds

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on different shows, so that's awesome.

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Yeah, I'm fortunate, I really bless that's awesome. Good.

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So when it comes to intention and they're kind of

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raising those that vibrational awareness, how important is it or

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is there some sort of link to using crystals in

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such a practice, because I know, like for me, sometimes

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I can't focus very well at all. My mind is

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just naturally chaos, and so I tend to use Black

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O City in a lot to try and reward off

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or absorbative energy and get that pass. So you're just

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talking about someone who maybe wants to go in and

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avoid shart energies. Is there time in place? Sorry, I

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was getting over a little bit of a cold But

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is there a time in place where maybe crystals come

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into the practice of these rituals.

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I think you can bring anything into the practice that

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you like. I love crystals, but I'm not, by any

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stretch of the imagination, a lapidary, So I probably have

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just this rudimentary knowledge and use of crystals. But certainly

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you can bring that into it. And in some of

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the circles that I travel in, you know, you are

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a woman and you are shifting energy in any way,

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and this is maybe true for witches and healers and

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shamans and meditation. Cut it's like we're carrying crystals in

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our bosom even to help us to be at the

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vibration that we desire for that day.

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Now, on the other side, as far as incense and aroma,

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how does that affect spiritual meditative states, Because I mean,

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aroma can bring you back to a specific memory, So

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it makes you wonder how it affects the spiritual side.

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Okay, So spiritual versus energy, I think that's that's a

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different conversation because it's about what it evokes, what it

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evokes for you and what your invocation is. What does

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that smell do for you, what does that aroma do

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for you? Yes, there are some built in you know,

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we all know franking sense for meta franking sense, murrh

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and what's the other in coppal really good for meditation,

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you know, the earthly ones for grounding. You know, you

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may do something else, but I think that a lot

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of it has to do with what that a rumor

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brings up for you, you know. And that's what happened

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with me. A lot of these things happened over time.

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It was developing when I was in college, for example,

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and everything was everything was coconut and musk, And even

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though those aren't my very favorite go tos right now,

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those sense still bring up certain feelings for me, which

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then lean into the attentions would lead into the manifesting.

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Sure, And I think it's also like when it comes

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to incense, it can also depend on the day what

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you're feeling when.

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Because I have like.

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A whole little line of incense on my shelf fac

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and trees from me. In the morning, sometimes I'll open

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one and give a spell, but like you, I don't

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really feel that today, you know, and go to another

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until it just feels right, you know. And I think

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that's one of the cool things about incense. It was like,

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you don't necessarily have to you know, you don't have

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to use frankinsense in the means that it's normally used

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for exactly right, And that's one of the best things

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about it.

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Yeah, yeah, I think that that's really great. And I

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tell you, I got more insience that I will ever

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burn in the next ten years. And so I've now

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gotten into the habit. I trust myself enough to just

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go into the space where I house my incense and

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just kind of allow my hand to choose, you know,

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run my hand across the shelf and say, okay, this one.

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I Sometimes I puse my eyes and pig and I

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think intuition comes into play a lot. And then I

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also I do a lot of pantry herds and spices

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as well. Sometimes I'm not reaching for actual in sense

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at all, I'm reaching. I'm reaching for a bay leave

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and writing, you know, and intention on there and burning it,

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or rosemary needles or you know, whatever I have in

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my spice cabin there also, which makes it I think

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accessible to everybody. Everybody's got some kind of spices that

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they can reach for, so you don't have to go

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out and buy something specific. Although that's a lot of fun,

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a lot of fun. I do a lot of that,

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but you know, it's not really necessary, so everyone has

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equal access.

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Yeah, there's a simplicity to it overall, if you really

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wanted to need.

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It to yeah, yeah.

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It's funny that you bring up the whole going over

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the spices with your hands thing. That's how I choose

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crystals a lot of times is all I have to

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either wave over them or even touch them to understand

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if that's the crystal that I need or if somebody

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else needs it. For that matter, I had to I

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did that with my wife once when we went to

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a crystal shop and I'm like, I think this is

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for you. I don't think this is for me.

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Oh my gosh. You know, funny story. When I took

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my very first reiki class, there was a gentleman in

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the class that we rubbed each other the wrong way,

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which is very rare for me, but we just it

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was really not good, and so she instructed us to

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come in the next day and to bring a pendulum.

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And so I wanted to buy a particular, you know,

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a particular pendulum. I went to a local crystal shop.

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I kised a prependulum that sucker did not work for

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me ever, it which it just stood there like it

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was just dead in the water. And then the guy

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picked it up and it swung like crazy. I just

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gave it to him. Well, I guess that's for you,

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you know, and we do. It can come through us

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and it doesn't have to necessarily be for us.

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Well, now, what are some if you don't mind sharing,

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what are some common misconceptions about ritual.

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Work that it has okay or had? People say things like, oh,

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you know, but I think they confuse vitual work with

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with spell work, and it's all very similar prayer vitual

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spell work. To me, it's all along the same spectrum.

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But people think we have to have like a rhyming

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incantation like on Bewitched or or you know, or that

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oh my god, you know I have to go out

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and buy supplies. I don't think any of that is true.

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You know, you can look in your backyard and see

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what's there, or just do the act, just create the habit. Yes,

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that simple?

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Oh sure, I think Like for me, one thing I

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always believe for a long time is when it came

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to cutting ties, with somebody or something.

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You know.

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I believe I had to have all these things, a candlelight,

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a string, all the stuff to try to mimic this,

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this idea of of cutting loose. But I learned that

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it's it's not that it's all in the head. It's

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like it's all in the mind. And I can sit

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there and visually, you know, think of cutting through an

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attachment that doesn't serve me. It comes anyway, it's engine

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going back to a tention, you know, and it's and

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there's this there's again I use I've used this sort

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of a few times, simplicity behind it. But I think that's

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the best part about ritual work is the fact that

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it can be done anywhere and everywhere at any time.

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Walking through it. Yeah, you know, and it's I know

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a lot of people who are who get scared about

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him getting nervous like, oh what if I do that,

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I might open a door and they start to shift

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in this whole idea of spiritual spiritual realm. And you know, obviously,

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depending on intention, what exact y you're doing, maybe maybe,

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but yeah, it.

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Is because of based on feeling. If that's what you're feeling,

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that might be what happens to you?

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So right, and in which case, it's great to have

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people like you or for people who've reached out to

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us over the years just for a little bit of guidance,

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like will this happen? It's like, Oh, we can explain

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to them why those people might experience those things and

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how to avoid those things. You know, in most cases

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that's not something you typically have to worry about.

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Yeah, exactly.

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I agree.

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Well, and I'm going to out Eric on this to you.

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Everybody has heard this already, but Eric's had severe OCD

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for many, many, many years, So I feel ritualistic work

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is great for him because he's already doing rituals for

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the OCD side of things.

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That's right.

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This will actually guide him in a different direction instead

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of having those negative thoughts and having him do these

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rituals to make sure they don't happen. Instead, you're creating

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intention to do these rituals for positive things to happen.

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You don't have to think about those negative things.

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So, Eric, does that make you feel more in control?

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I mean to an extent, Yeah, like like I feel,

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I mean the OCD in general, like it makes me

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have the need for control, Like like everything always feels

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like it's spirally. You know. I turn off a light

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and I have a negative thought. I know better, I

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know that that negative thought isn't going to come true,

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but there's a part in my brain that says, now

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it's going to sure, you know, and so I need

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to put that light switch back on, and I you know,

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I've had some pretty pretty pretty decent ticks over the

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years of you know, unfortunately, like causing pain to myself

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to try to get a thought out of my head,

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or flipping lights on and off, washing my hands until

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i'm you know, raw and bleeding, things like that. So, yeah,

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Justin's right, Like having the ability to kind of take

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these things that would normally cause the compaustions and use

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them in a way that allows me to better control

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them and manage them, you know, like using incense. I

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use that to try to clear my mind, and I

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try to think of some of these things that are negative.

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You know that I said I fear because I try

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to have control over that fear. I try to teach

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myself like, look, you can have these thoughts and nothing's

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going to happen. You'll go on with the rest of

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your day. Just like you would have if you didn't

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have these thoughts. It's not always easy, you know, and

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it's like, you know, between the rituals and of course

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I'm in therapy for help too, and you know, just

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need some guidance, and that's something like I think it's

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very important for a lot. I think everyone should be

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in therapy to some extent. I think it's very helpful.

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But yeah, definitely doing the rituals has been beneficial, especially

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when I start to find myself.

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Spiraling, you know, And not to turn this into me

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interviewing you, but so what's your favorite crystal? When you

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find yourself slipping into that into that zone, what brings

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you back?

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I mean, my my number one favorite crystal is and

468
00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:57.920
always has been, the black Obsidian. There's just I relate

469
00:25:57.960 --> 00:26:02.400
the fire I'm in ares and so you know, I'll

470
00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:06.240
stare into a candle flame for thirty minutes and just

471
00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:09.039
meditate on that flame. I'll hold that crystal near me,

472
00:26:09.079 --> 00:26:11.200
and I feel like a rebalance, you know. It's like

473
00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:14.519
it's heavy. It's it's heavy in my heart. You know,

474
00:26:14.680 --> 00:26:16.839
it's like a weight is being either pressed or lifted.

475
00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:20.960
But I do notice that when I'm wearing it, I

476
00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:24.240
have more clarity and I have more resistance towards some

477
00:26:24.319 --> 00:26:26.559
of these compautions that I would typically give into.

478
00:26:28.160 --> 00:26:29.200
That's great, Okay.

479
00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:37.720
Interesting Now something that kind of goes back to the

480
00:26:39.119 --> 00:26:43.799
book and ritualism is the drinks, beverages that like tea

481
00:26:44.039 --> 00:26:48.720
and coffee. How does that become part of your energetic

482
00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:50.000
or spiritual practice?

483
00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:54.799
Well, for me, it was very natural, because I shared

484
00:26:54.839 --> 00:26:57.160
with you before the show started. I get up at

485
00:26:57.160 --> 00:27:01.240
about four o'clock in the morning and my body craze.

486
00:27:01.279 --> 00:27:03.799
You know, it's like just the act of getting something

487
00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:07.160
warm and comforting and doing this first thing in the morning.

488
00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:10.680
My sisters and I am from a family of five,

489
00:27:10.759 --> 00:27:13.720
so my sisters and I were really a coffee clatch

490
00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:16.519
for you know, for years and years and years and

491
00:27:16.519 --> 00:27:18.599
so would we would all get together and have coffee,

492
00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:20.799
and even those of us that didn't drink coffee started

493
00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:26.079
drinking coffee. But I think that the beverage piece is

494
00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:31.240
about it's just about the water element probably working through,

495
00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:34.440
you know, adding something. You know, you got the fire

496
00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:38.680
and the incense you have for me the earth. I'm

497
00:27:38.680 --> 00:27:40.960
walking around barefoot and a lot of times I'm sitting

498
00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:43.839
on my front stoo before the sun even comes up,

499
00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:48.559
getting grounded, and the water element the emotion attached for

500
00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:53.440
me to something warm and comforting to drink our right

501
00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:55.799
ash or it's hot, it's today was a hot day

502
00:27:55.799 --> 00:27:58.759
in La and I'm still sitting here having a hot

503
00:27:58.799 --> 00:28:03.599
cup of coffee because it's it's soothing, so I think.

504
00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:06.759
But I think it can work just as well with

505
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:11.200
cold beverages. I never do you know anything cold, but

506
00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:14.720
I bet if you set the right intentions, it'll be

507
00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:15.160
the same.

508
00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:23.359
Okay, Well, now, how does or how do astrology and

509
00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:27.319
planetary influences connect with rituals?

510
00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:32.960
Shoot in all kinds of ways. I'm a stud, you know,

511
00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:38.039
so the astrology piece and then now also human design,

512
00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:43.200
which is growing in popularity. But I think that it's

513
00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:53.440
about how you listen, how you're guided. That's where to me, astrology, moonology, uh,

514
00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:55.799
those kinds of things come into play. It's like, what

515
00:28:55.839 --> 00:28:59.400
are you feeling based on how the planets are aligned

516
00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:03.200
and what's going on in the cosmos. Like everybody always

517
00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:06.440
talks about mercury retrograde and feeling stuck at that time,

518
00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:09.359
And to me, that's not about being stuck, that's about

519
00:29:09.759 --> 00:29:15.240
being given down. Time. My favorite astrologer is Patty Canson,

520
00:29:16.079 --> 00:29:21.440
and she would say, imagine that you have a giant

521
00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:26.799
slim shop and during mercury retigrade, you're loading up what

522
00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:30.799
you want to push forward when mercury goes direct. So

523
00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:34.559
you use that down time to prepare and to build

524
00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:38.799
up energy in a certain way. But all of that,

525
00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:44.240
that motion and changing not just your vibrational frequency but

526
00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:49.559
the rate at which you're vibrating. To me, all of

527
00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:54.920
that is is controlled and connected to the planetary alignments, sun,

528
00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:56.920
moving scars and planets.

529
00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:03.039
Okay, Now, I've been fascinated with astrology at a very

530
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:08.000
young age, and I find it fascinating that even through

531
00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:10.880
you know, looking through the book and what you're talking

532
00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:16.799
about now, that our lives are affected that much by

533
00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:24.079
planetary alignment. And I mean, there's there's a reason back

534
00:30:24.119 --> 00:30:26.640
in ancient culture we came up with the zodiac science

535
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:32.400
and we came up with astrology. Now do you find

536
00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:38.759
that rituals can kind of enhance the things that if

537
00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:44.960
you're born under a certain sign, or even that where

538
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:50.000
your you're sign aligns in the planetary alignment can help.

539
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:55.880
Okay, if I'm understanding you correctly, I think yes, because

540
00:30:57.480 --> 00:31:02.519
for example, I'm a charent are so water and the

541
00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:08.119
moon right and so my I do find almost without

542
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:11.720
even thinking about it, that what I'm guided and moved

543
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:16.920
to do changes with you know, with the way that

544
00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:20.519
the planets are all positioned, and yeah, and the moan yes,

545
00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:21.839
so absolutely, yes.

546
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:26.000
Okay, And now would you line up a specific ritual

547
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:28.519
during a certain time of the year or whatever whatever

548
00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:30.160
is lining up with your sign.

549
00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:33.480
I used to do a lot of that, not as

550
00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:35.599
much anymore, but I do plan on getting back to it.

551
00:31:35.640 --> 00:31:37.160
I just you know, I just ran out of time

552
00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:38.920
because you can lose yourself.

553
00:31:39.599 --> 00:31:40.480
I say that a lot.

554
00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:44.640
Yeah, and I mean, yeah, i'd really I'd like to

555
00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:47.119
spend all my time in that space, but I gotta

556
00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:53.640
eat so so. But but yes, I did do a

557
00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:56.279
lot of that, and I want to get back to that.

558
00:31:56.680 --> 00:31:59.119
You know. I find myself kind of sneaking in on

559
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:01.240
other people that are when that work, and it's like, oh,

560
00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:02.680
I didn't have to plan it, but I can just

561
00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:06.160
leap in right here and you know, and take advantage

562
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:08.160
and somebody else is doing the ritual. I'm just a

563
00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:12.039
participant like everybody else. Makes it really convenient.

564
00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:14.240
Well, that's the hard part with those kinds of things

565
00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:16.799
because it does take time. You have to you have to,

566
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:19.799
you know, build out a schedule and follow the calendar

567
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:21.599
and make sure everything's out point. You know.

568
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:22.279
Uh.

569
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:26.240
I know a reiki practitioner who does that regularly, and

570
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:29.079
she'll show her calendar every once in a while on

571
00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:32.599
Instagram and she's like, why do you relax? When do

572
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:36.960
you relax? You know, It's like she's there's so much.

573
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:41.480
Yeah that that that used to be me, but again

574
00:32:41.599 --> 00:32:45.359
not so much anymore. I just that's a lot. That's

575
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:49.319
a lot of planning, and excuse me if if that

576
00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:55.240
isn't how you earn your living, it can just become

577
00:32:55.920 --> 00:33:00.880
almost overwhelming. Yeah. So I want to build more of

578
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:04.119
than into my into where I where I think I'm

579
00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:08.400
going as I age, so that it doesn't feel like

580
00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:12.039
something extra, it's just what I would be doing anyway, right.

581
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:16.920
Well, and to kind of go off of that, My

582
00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:19.400
wife and I live off of our calendar because she

583
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:23.400
owns her own business. She's a seramicist and she does

584
00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:27.519
a lot of classes. And I'm super busy with with

585
00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:32.880
not just work but also my podcast. I also am

586
00:33:33.079 --> 00:33:39.000
a self published author, so getting time. I should say,

587
00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:43.279
making time to do things is essential with the calendar.

588
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:46.440
But I'm really hoping at some point we can get

589
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:49.599
to the point where we don't have to rely on

590
00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:50.720
that calendar so much.

591
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:54.640
We're like what day is it? And what time is it?

592
00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:56.279
I do that?

593
00:33:56.359 --> 00:33:58.200
I hear you is.

594
00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:05.680
Schedual, you know. I just I've been resistant to that

595
00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:08.360
kind of structured work once I started moving away from it.

596
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:11.719
And and now since the release of the book, you know,

597
00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:15.000
now I've got that podcast, I've got appearances, I've got readings,

598
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:17.679
and I'm finding that I have to go back to

599
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:21.400
using it. Are called the use Google calendar, you know,

600
00:34:21.519 --> 00:34:24.119
and make all the parts work together in my personal

601
00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:27.559
life and my task and you know, family stuff and

602
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:32.159
this the the you know, the book stuff, and it's

603
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:34.360
just it's a lot. I've got like four or five

604
00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:41.159
different calendars. But thank God for technology, right, it's very hopeful.

605
00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:45.199
Well, now I've got a question for you then, regarding intention,

606
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:51.760
of course, based on all the appearances that you're making

607
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:55.800
the podcasts and the various interviews, like was that built

608
00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:59.039
into your intention when writing the book or is it

609
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:02.519
just a result of the book being published and it's

610
00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:04.159
kind of ripple effect.

611
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:08.719
My intention for this book is that it be a

612
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:14.000
best seller. Excuse me for being a capitalist, right, and

613
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:17.199
the hat in fact it you know, that it becomes

614
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:20.840
a meaningful contribution to my income, you know. I mean

615
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:25.159
I'm nearing retirement age and so that means something to me.

616
00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:28.719
And so I expected to have to do a lot

617
00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:30.599
of this. I didn't know what it was going to

618
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:32.000
look like when I wrote the book. I was a

619
00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:35.719
full time caregiver for my father and that was that

620
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:38.960
was everything. Everything had to evolve around that. So I

621
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:42.679
didn't even know how it was going to happen. But

622
00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:46.079
I think that that intention started moving things around. And

623
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:48.599
I hope it doesn't sound morbid. But you know, my

624
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:51.800
father passed away about a year ago to create space

625
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:54.239
for this leg of this work.

626
00:35:55.599 --> 00:35:59.280
That doesn't sound morbid at all. I mean it is

627
00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:03.280
a very sad thing to realize that somebody is dying,

628
00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:07.920
but also to realize that that has to happen for

629
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:11.679
something else to happen. We die for a reason at

630
00:36:11.719 --> 00:36:12.599
a specific time.

631
00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:16.400
Yeah, and he was almost ninety two. I mean, you

632
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:18.840
have some service person a while did that one more

633
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:20.400
time with it?

634
00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:24.719
Yeah, I mean that's alsome that he got that far.

635
00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:28.000
There are plenty of people that can't say that they did.

636
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:29.840
Oh my god, he was never sick.

637
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:31.199
Wow.

638
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:34.000
Yeah, It's like he got sick and three days later

639
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:37.239
he was gone. Wow till that time, and you know

640
00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:41.119
he was strong, he had all his mental faculty. I

641
00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:44.039
just I couldn't ask for more when I started feeling sad.

642
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:45.800
That was the talk I have of myself. It's like,

643
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:48.159
what else are you asking God for? My goodness?

644
00:36:48.440 --> 00:36:53.280
Right, our neighbor is coming up on ninety four fully

645
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:56.280
functional can I mean she has a hard time walking

646
00:36:56.320 --> 00:37:03.760
at times, but full cognitive ability. She treats us so well,

647
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:06.920
and we've lucked out. But to see that somebody can

648
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:10.000
get to ninety four years old and still be one

649
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:13.559
hundred percent there, like, oh my god, it's not it's not.

650
00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:17.239
It's very rare, unfortunately that that happens.

651
00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:21.199
Justin I hasn't lost my mother's older sister. She was

652
00:37:21.239 --> 00:37:22.239
one hundred and four.

653
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:26.320
I mean, it's like these your family lives long.

654
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:28.239
I'm not.

655
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:32.000
I can't stop working yet right now, you've got time.

656
00:37:33.639 --> 00:37:35.719
I mean, my mother in law is eighty four. She

657
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:38.159
would still be working if she could. She had retired

658
00:37:38.199 --> 00:37:42.400
when my father in law got sick and just stayed retired.

659
00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:46.159
But it's like, yeah, some people are just that way

660
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:49.239
where it's not that we have to work, it's just

661
00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:51.920
our mind is we have to stay busy.

662
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:56.440
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I certainly feel that way for myself.

663
00:37:56.480 --> 00:38:01.000
I'm living alone for the first time and woof, you know,

664
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:05.519
I got married, my husband died, my dad was someone else.

665
00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:07.559
We had a son, We raised him in this house,

666
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:09.800
you know. Then just as he was leaving, I took

667
00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:13.639
in my dad. So I'm now in a space where

668
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:17.000
I have one hundred percent control of the space and

669
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:21.760
my time and how I move around in it. And

670
00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:25.679
it's it's really something, you know, because I think that

671
00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:28.000
people live so long because the miracle drugs. My mother

672
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:31.360
is eighty eight and she's still with us, you know what,

673
00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:33.960
sixty five year old still has their mom, right right,

674
00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:40.519
you know. So, but I think that that that that

675
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:44.480
long life thing is very interesting because you also run

676
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:48.400
into kind of getting back to the book, into rituals.

677
00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:54.280
You begin to see how your elders they moved in

678
00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:57.360
a different way than we do, right, They moved with

679
00:38:57.400 --> 00:38:59.800
the seasons, and you know, even though they didn't call

680
00:38:59.840 --> 00:39:04.079
it that we learned that from them. I'm so glad

681
00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:06.280
that my parents have lived such a long time, because

682
00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:08.159
when I was younger, I wasn't paying attention.

683
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:13.199
You know, oh, one hundred percent grandmother's funeral.

684
00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:15.639
Why she did this at this time? Why he did

685
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:17.880
this at you know, we get.

686
00:39:17.719 --> 00:39:20.480
My grandmother's funeral. I said the same thing, like she

687
00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:23.239
was always asking a hundred questions when we would come

688
00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:26.239
to visit, especially after I'd gotten older and moved away,

689
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:31.960
And when she passed away, I felt a lot of regret,

690
00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:37.920
not considering that she just wanted to know about my

691
00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:45.119
life and that that's hard to realize. And she did

692
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:48.360
not live. He lived to eighties, so that's still a

693
00:39:48.480 --> 00:39:53.239
very long life. But for somebody who's lived to ninety

694
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:58.079
one hundred, over one hundred years, we have to get

695
00:39:58.119 --> 00:39:59.960
as much information from them as we can.

696
00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:02.480
Yeah, yeah, I call it sitting at the feet of

697
00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:06.360
the elders every chance you get, every chance. My mother

698
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:08.920
and father broke up when I was very young. So

699
00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:11.880
when he moved in with me, I was fifty eight,

700
00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:14.840
he was eighty five, and it was our first time

701
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:18.840
living together. You know, since I was five or six

702
00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:22.400
years old. We did not know each other, and I

703
00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:26.079
think to date that is now my favorite season of

704
00:40:26.119 --> 00:40:29.199
my life, getting to know him and his own voice,

705
00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:32.119
through his own eyes, and a lot of that came

706
00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:34.920
through and ritual. When he first moved in, he was

707
00:40:35.079 --> 00:40:38.639
very very strong. He moved into twenty nineteen, so before COVID,

708
00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:42.840
we would get up every morning and enjoy a cup

709
00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:46.119
of coffee together and then put on our walking shoes

710
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:47.960
and you know, I would walk him every day for

711
00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:50.119
a two miles and he would just talk and I

712
00:40:50.119 --> 00:40:53.920
would just listen, and I learned so much things about

713
00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:56.280
my family that I didn't know things about him, but

714
00:40:56.360 --> 00:41:01.159
I didn't know his intentions. But he intended for his

715
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:03.679
life to be versus what it turned out to be.

716
00:41:03.960 --> 00:41:06.760
All of that that I got that in those last

717
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:11.800
six years. So that's important time if you can get it, Yeah,

718
00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:12.239
for sure.

719
00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:18.519
Well, now chipping back into the book a little bit,

720
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:23.840
what advice would you give someone skeptical but it's curious

721
00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:25.119
about ritual work.

722
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:32.119
That's a hard question for me because I don't do skeptics.

723
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:35.039
It's not my job to convince you. You know, if

724
00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:37.199
you look and you think I have something that you need,

725
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:40.239
come and I'll give it freely. I don't do convincing,

726
00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:43.079
which is really crazy because in my other life I

727
00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:45.840
was in sales, right, That's all he did was convinced people.

728
00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:48.320
And maybe that's why I now have an aversion to it.

729
00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:53.360
But if you are curious and a skeptic, you need

730
00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:56.920
to do your own research. That's my number one rule.

731
00:41:57.239 --> 00:42:00.000
Figure it out. The internet is there, Everything is right there,

732
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:04.079
AI is there. Ask your questions, you know, and then

733
00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:06.079
find the place for you in that realm.

734
00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:13.760
Yeah, fair enough. Now what role does consistency play in

735
00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:15.840
energetic or even spiritual growth?

736
00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:24.119
Oh gosh, I think consistency is everything. Otherwise your message

737
00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:27.920
about where you want to go, what you want to be,

738
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:30.840
what you want to have. It's kind of like, and

739
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:32.559
this is just me talking. I mean, there is no

740
00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:35.840
scientific evidence that I know of, but I always feel

741
00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:39.719
like I don't want the universe to be confused about

742
00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:43.519
what it is that I'm trying to do. So consistency

743
00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:46.360
is everything. If you want to rely on it, it

744
00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:47.719
needs to be able to rely on you.

745
00:42:48.599 --> 00:42:56.159
So okay, Well, now, how can people create like a

746
00:42:56.280 --> 00:43:00.159
sacred space even in a small apartment or in ze

747
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:04.840
homes especially you know, people with families and they just noise, noise, noise.

748
00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:07.400
What can people do to create those spaces?

749
00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:10.000
All you need is a corner. All you need is

750
00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:15.440
a corner. Find a few things that are meaningful to you.

751
00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:18.239
You know. I work a lot with with my ancestors,

752
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:22.719
and they come through a lot in my word. But

753
00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:26.400
so I have, you know, pictures, I have old jewelry,

754
00:43:26.719 --> 00:43:30.599
I've got keys to open portals, you know. But all

755
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:34.519
it really takes is for you to find one dedicated space.

756
00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:38.480
And I stay dedicated because when you weren't to do

757
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:42.400
this kind of work, you want your you want to

758
00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:44.320
be able to call up the energy and step into

759
00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:47.079
that room, just like walking through a door. So that's

760
00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:50.239
the benefit of a dedicated place and that consistency that

761
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:54.800
we're talking about. But you know, start with anything, you know,

762
00:43:55.039 --> 00:44:00.320
one crystal, one candle, and a match book, and then

763
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:01.559
be guided from there.

764
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:09.000
Are there certain herbs or sense you personally connect with

765
00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:11.119
compared to like other people.

766
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:18.760
I love, I love love love, uh the smell and

767
00:44:18.800 --> 00:44:21.440
the feel of vanilla and coconut, I don't know what

768
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:26.599
that is. And and good coconut is hard to find,

769
00:44:26.599 --> 00:44:35.519
like coconut oil is almost always uh not not really recruited. Great,

770
00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:40.800
I just had a brain fit. But but I like,

771
00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:45.880
I really like earthy rich, like I really like cinnamon

772
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:50.239
and cartamum and marginam and you know, those are some

773
00:44:50.280 --> 00:44:55.159
of my favorite symphony In terms of insects. Colasanto will

774
00:44:56.519 --> 00:44:59.199
I love. I have so much palasantal and I burn

775
00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:02.400
it every single day. It's amazing. I just taken put

776
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:05.000
it on a chopol disc and let it smolder, you know,

777
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:08.199
until it fills up an entire room or the entire house.

778
00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:13.719
And so I think those are my favorites. Vanilla Paula Santo.

779
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:19.519
I like Frankinson, but it's not necessarily appealing to a

780
00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:24.559
lot of people. But Sandalwood. I loved Sandalwood. Oh my god,

781
00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:26.079
see you now you've got to be going down the

782
00:45:26.159 --> 00:45:29.840
rabbit hole and oh I love Ooh okay, that's it.

783
00:45:33.679 --> 00:45:38.760
That's it. Goodness.

784
00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:45.039
Well, now, so with all your rituals and your practices spirituality,

785
00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:50.039
how has your understanding of healing changed over the years?

786
00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:54.559
Oh my goodness. But with all of my uh spiritual

787
00:45:54.719 --> 00:45:57.960
and energetic practices and the work I do as a

788
00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:03.599
Reikie practitioner, I have, I've learned so much about energy

789
00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:07.280
and how different people respond and react to different things,

790
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:10.559
and it's not always the same. H You know, someone

791
00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:12.719
can do exactly what you do and get a totally

792
00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:19.480
different result. So the importance of leaning in and listening really, Like,

793
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:23.239
I really listened to my clients, and I've even like,

794
00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:26.920
I don't do tarot table readings anymore because I don't

795
00:46:26.920 --> 00:46:29.960
want the interruption of the people asking questions. Tell me

796
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:32.679
what you want to know, give me permission to happen

797
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:34.760
to your energy, and then let me do this. And

798
00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:37.000
now I even do my tarot leanings of what I

799
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:41.280
call reiki prescriptions so that I can then give them

800
00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:44.400
exercises to do so that they can tap into the

801
00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:45.519
very next steps.

802
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:48.199
Wow, that's cool.

803
00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:51.719
Yeah, that's one of my fave I'm right, that's my

804
00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:54.679
next book. I think reeky prescriptions like a lack of

805
00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:56.000
physician's desk raping.

806
00:46:56.079 --> 00:47:00.480
Yeah, yeah, I like that. That's awesome. Yeah.

807
00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:09.400
Has your reiki practice kind of formed your your tarot practice?

808
00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:11.079
Yes?

809
00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:20.760
Yeah, absolutely, I think that that I've gotten better at

810
00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:27.840
helping quarents formulate qusters because as a reiki practitioner, I'm

811
00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:31.480
relating to people on a different level and I'm more

812
00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:36.760
aware of you know, besides just whatever the seven you know, finances, romance,

813
00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:41.000
business career, you know, the typical things. I think that

814
00:47:41.159 --> 00:47:44.599
I have a better idea of what people really want

815
00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:46.960
versus what they're able to verbalize.

816
00:47:48.159 --> 00:47:53.880
Yeah, well, now, I think one question that a lot

817
00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:57.719
of people who maybe don't practice rituals very often, and

818
00:47:57.760 --> 00:47:59.880
maybe you consider themselves with then we talked a little

819
00:47:59.920 --> 00:48:06.519
bit about it earlier, but can rituals become dangerous if

820
00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:11.039
done incorrectly? I know there's this whole idea behind spells

821
00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:15.119
being done, you know, haphazardly and things not going quite

822
00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:18.639
the same or what they'd expected. Is that kind of

823
00:48:18.639 --> 00:48:25.000
what we also should be considering when doing rituals.

824
00:48:25.199 --> 00:48:28.920
I don't feel that way, No, I don't, Because you're

825
00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:34.199
ritual it's your creation. Spell work is spell work is

826
00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:40.679
about you, you making something happen. Sure, ritual work is

827
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:44.760
about attracting what you want to you, you know. So

828
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:47.159
to me that that makes it a little bit a

829
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:52.320
little bit different. And like when I remove me, it's

830
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:55.559
the same thing. As a reiki practitioner, my number one

831
00:48:55.679 --> 00:48:59.559
job is to remain detested from the output because's not

832
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:04.239
mine here, it's the client's healing. So when I'm able

833
00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:08.840
to do that, it removed anything to me that can

834
00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:12.000
go wrong. The analogy that I always draw is that

835
00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:16.440
it's like warring a garden. The rayki is the water.

836
00:49:16.559 --> 00:49:19.679
I'm just the person holding the holes, and the client

837
00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:22.960
is the garden. And so as they absorbed that water,

838
00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:25.159
they're coming through the holes that they're actually pulling through.

839
00:49:25.239 --> 00:49:29.159
I'm just holding it, creating it, holding the space as

840
00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:31.119
they absorb it, then it goes to the roots where

841
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:34.480
it's mostly needed. I feel the same way about ritual.

842
00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:39.360
It's you know, if you can remove your a deep

843
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:43.280
attachment to an outcome and ask for what is the

844
00:49:43.320 --> 00:49:47.119
best outcome for everyone involved, I think it's pretty hard

845
00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:47.920
to go wrong with that.

846
00:49:48.280 --> 00:49:53.719
Okay, quick follow up question just Kennedy, but like, did

847
00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:57.559
you have you always believed to detach yourself from your

848
00:49:57.679 --> 00:49:59.599
clients from doing energy work or is that something you

849
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:01.400
had to learn kind of a hard way.

850
00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:07.639
I think like I knew I was always supposed to

851
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:13.920
be doing it, but and even uh in my reiki training,

852
00:50:14.360 --> 00:50:16.639
it was always you know, when you do laki, you

853
00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:20.000
shouldn't feel depleted because it's not your energy. I still

854
00:50:20.119 --> 00:50:23.320
get exhausted when I when I do reki. I can

855
00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:25.360
only do I used to do. I was young and strong,

856
00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:28.400
I could do seven eight people a day. I don't

857
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:30.239
allow myself to do any more than three people a

858
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:35.719
day now because of how depleted I feel afterwards. But

859
00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:41.079
that depletion is not because I'm trying to control outcomes. Sure,

860
00:50:41.199 --> 00:50:44.000
you know so exactly why it is, I'm not sure

861
00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:47.199
because I mean I've read the books, Acurie. I've read

862
00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:49.760
the books about the people that can do it, and

863
00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:51.400
they just don't feel anything and they can just work

864
00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:53.599
and work and work for whatever reason. That's not me,

865
00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:56.239
and that's okay, you know, it's okay. I just know

866
00:50:56.559 --> 00:50:59.760
that I have to pace myself. So, yeah, I.

867
00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:03.840
Didn't massage therapy years ago, and they touched you the

868
00:51:03.880 --> 00:51:08.519
same thing. You have to protect yourself because I would

869
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:15.400
do for clinic for five massages b at the end

870
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:17.840
of the day. I mean it is a very physical

871
00:51:18.519 --> 00:51:22.320
job as well, but I was completely drained and it's

872
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:23.800
going beyond the physical.

873
00:51:24.920 --> 00:51:27.519
Yes, oh yes, I mean massage. I don't know how

874
00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:30.159
people do it. A lot of people thought when I

875
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:31.760
said that, you know, okay, I want to develop a

876
00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:35.280
service because I started out repping for a nature based company.

877
00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:38.559
And then I said, you know, okay, I'm getting older. I

878
00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:40.920
really would like to provide a service to go along

879
00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:45.840
with this. And a lot of people are like, oh,

880
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:47.960
you should do massage. I already knew I was in

881
00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:50.559
my forties. It's like, oh no, that's.

882
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:54.159
Why it work completely different. Yeah, rey Q, massage is

883
00:51:54.199 --> 00:51:54.920
not the same thing.

884
00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:59.920
But Reggie, as I've learned over the years, it's surprisingly

885
00:52:02.280 --> 00:52:06.199
hard on you physically if you're not paying attention to

886
00:52:06.360 --> 00:52:09.079
what you're doing, the way you hold your to just

887
00:52:09.079 --> 00:52:12.280
like massides therapist. You all have a posture right, save

888
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:14.840
your back and preserve your your energy, you know, use

889
00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:19.840
your thighs. We really, as practitioners in energy healing should

890
00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:21.559
be doing the same thing. I talk about a lot

891
00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:25.360
of that in my certification class because people always assume,

892
00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:27.599
you know, we we kind of flippantly say, you know,

893
00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:29.519
like I said, oh my father die, Oh you know

894
00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:30.280
what I'm praying for?

895
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:30.519
You?

896
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:34.400
Are you really? Because prayer is hard work? So are

897
00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:39.119
you just? You know, that's just what people say and all, yeah,

898
00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:42.000
I know that it's very well intended, but the actual

899
00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:43.880
work and you know, people have said, oh you know,

900
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:45.880
I have such and such going on. When you send

901
00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:48.199
me some reiki, I'm like, okay, know what you're asking

902
00:52:48.199 --> 00:52:50.239
me to do because I don't play with you know,

903
00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:53.960
It's like, yeah, this is a whole thing for me.

904
00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:58.920
I'm gonna be either you're gonna do it or you're not.

905
00:52:59.400 --> 00:53:03.119
And it's and so in my certification class, it's one

906
00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:05.480
of my favorite things is when we get to the

907
00:53:05.559 --> 00:53:10.840
practice part because I get to really introduce people to

908
00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:13.840
what it is like. No students certified by me unless

909
00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:16.599
they worked in my all day reiki clinic and treated

910
00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:21.920
these two live clients with full on reiki sessions. We

911
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:25.960
do thirteen positions at three to five minutes each and

912
00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:30.000
when we are in practice mode and people are holding

913
00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:34.400
one position for three minutes, four minutes, or five minutes,

914
00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:37.639
it feels like an eternity. It's really it's much more

915
00:53:37.639 --> 00:53:47.199
physical than people with assudi, much more so. I lost you, Eric,

916
00:53:47.639 --> 00:53:48.000
Oh you.

917
00:53:48.039 --> 00:53:51.000
Need it no, But that's my fault, my fault. I

918
00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:52.519
had a cough while you were talking to like you

919
00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:55.960
and myself. We are getting close to the end of

920
00:53:56.000 --> 00:53:58.599
the show here, so I do one question. I want

921
00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:00.800
to ask you for this two of them, But what

922
00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:03.000
do you hope readers take from this book.

923
00:54:03.079 --> 00:54:06.679
Ultimately, my answer is always the same. I hope that

924
00:54:06.719 --> 00:54:10.599
people take this baby, that they fold pages back and

925
00:54:10.760 --> 00:54:14.039
scribble in the margins and put it on their bookshelf.

926
00:54:14.320 --> 00:54:16.840
And when your brand children come and clean out your

927
00:54:16.840 --> 00:54:20.920
space after you have transitioned, they go, gee, you know, Grandpa,

928
00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:24.760
grandma and uncle really was into this stuff. You know.

929
00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:29.039
That's what I want people to do, to see themselves

930
00:54:29.079 --> 00:54:32.639
and fill themselves in these pages and to use it

931
00:54:32.760 --> 00:54:41.119
to better their lives. Yes, that's my greatest wish.

932
00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:43.199
And last question we asked everybody where can everybody find

933
00:54:43.239 --> 00:54:44.880
you and find your work? We want to make sure

934
00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:45.559
that they can do that.

935
00:54:46.119 --> 00:54:50.039
Thank you so much. My company name, my practice name

936
00:54:50.159 --> 00:54:54.960
is Wellness Uprising, so Wellnessuprising dot com or and it

937
00:54:55.079 --> 00:54:58.159
is a lot or Rondikaikendalgabari dot com. If you happen

938
00:54:58.199 --> 00:54:59.360
to have my name in front of you and you

939
00:54:59.360 --> 00:55:02.159
can spell it, then that will get you there. Also.

940
00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:06.000
I'm also on I haven't gone through the process of

941
00:55:06.360 --> 00:55:08.760
consolidating all of my online names, so you know, but

942
00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:11.079
I'm on Facebook. If you search me, my name is

943
00:55:11.119 --> 00:55:14.400
unique enough. I haven't yet met another Rondo kaik Induljavari.

944
00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:17.639
So it's my name. You can find me on Instagram

945
00:55:17.800 --> 00:55:22.239
and blue Sky and threads and Facebook, TikTok is a

946
00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:26.800
whole other generation. Yeah, so I'm easy to find.

947
00:55:27.239 --> 00:55:27.719
Awesome.

948
00:55:29.320 --> 00:55:32.000
Well, thank you so much for joining us, Randa. We

949
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are going to go ahead and let you go here,

950
00:55:33.679 --> 00:55:35.760
but again, just hang on in a little boat for

951
00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:37.280
us for a little bit here while we cause out

952
00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:40.639
the show. But thank you for joining us.

953
00:55:41.239 --> 00:55:43.639
Yeah, it really was Thanks guys, this was fun, this

954
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was great, It was thank you.

955
00:55:46.239 --> 00:55:47.199
All right, love by.

956
00:55:49.159 --> 00:55:52.079
All Right film. Just make sure you check out Burn

957
00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:58.239
and Brew Rituals by Rhonda amazing book, amazing guest. And

958
00:55:58.800 --> 00:56:01.239
it's one of those things where we get into our

959
00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:03.440
heads about a lot of stuff. But she puts it

960
00:56:03.480 --> 00:56:06.400
down here on how to do rituals and how to

961
00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:09.639
she even said it right here, how to make it

962
00:56:09.719 --> 00:56:12.079
your own. Because I've heard this time and time again

963
00:56:12.119 --> 00:56:14.880
over the past few weeks. Now, Eric, if you haven't

964
00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:17.000
listened a lot of our guests.

965
00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:19.199
I haven't caught up to the last three needs. I

966
00:56:19.320 --> 00:56:20.679
missed the last three unfortunately.

967
00:56:20.760 --> 00:56:23.480
Wait, several guests since you've been gone have said that,

968
00:56:23.679 --> 00:56:25.880
so you know, make make it your own no matter

969
00:56:25.880 --> 00:56:29.960
what you're doing, spell work, rituals, stuff like that. So

970
00:56:30.039 --> 00:56:32.239
check it out and I hope you guys enjoy it.

971
00:56:32.920 --> 00:56:36.519
Yeah, did I get any POE results or should we Yeah?

972
00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:39.280
We can do cool real quick. So we did do

973
00:56:39.400 --> 00:56:41.880
a poll here and I'm no longer look on parac

974
00:56:42.280 --> 00:56:46.559
my computer's not working properly. But we asked go figure.

975
00:56:47.239 --> 00:56:52.199
We asked our Paratruther community group to do do you

976
00:56:52.320 --> 00:56:55.960
practice any form of personal ritual or spiritual routine? And

977
00:56:56.000 --> 00:56:58.360
so we had quite a few people chime in, and

978
00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:02.800
seventy one said they do daily. I don't know if

979
00:57:02.840 --> 00:57:05.440
I believe you got all of you, but maybe maybe

980
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:07.880
I know some of you who chimed in on that.

981
00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:11.920
I don't. Okay, maybe people borrow CD like you. Then

982
00:57:11.920 --> 00:57:16.599
you say me really be fourteen percent said occasionally, Another

983
00:57:16.639 --> 00:57:19.159
fourteen percent said I'm curious but near to it, and

984
00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:23.599
one percent said not at all. You know, and it's rituals.

985
00:57:23.880 --> 00:57:26.400
I to go beyond everything we just talked about here today.

986
00:57:26.440 --> 00:57:30.199
You know, it's it's as simple as vacuuming daily, or

987
00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:33.239
washing dishes or clothes, doing laundry. You know a lot

988
00:57:33.239 --> 00:57:37.840
of things that help to reset balance you know when

989
00:57:37.880 --> 00:57:41.599
I'm doing dishes, I hate doing dishes, but there's a clarity.

990
00:57:41.639 --> 00:57:43.599
I'm sitting and I'm thinking about things and I'm working

991
00:57:43.639 --> 00:57:45.800
through problems as i'm doing it, you know.

992
00:57:46.320 --> 00:57:48.480
And it talked about being in the shower too, and

993
00:57:48.599 --> 00:57:51.239
just yeah, and it's a ritual in and of itself,

994
00:57:51.320 --> 00:57:54.519
but you're always constantly thinking, at least I am in

995
00:57:54.559 --> 00:57:58.519
the shower or I hate to say this, going to

996
00:57:58.559 --> 00:58:01.039
the bathroom. It's like, well, you mind has nothing to

997
00:58:01.079 --> 00:58:04.480
do but to roll and think about things. So you're

998
00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:07.519
you're constantly thinking, and that is kind of what Richel

999
00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:09.760
is and what it's about for sure.

1000
00:58:10.719 --> 00:58:12.880
So anyway, this is the end of the show. Guys,

1001
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1002
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1009
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1010
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