Sept. 14, 2025

Fact or Fiction: Was Atlantis Real?

Fact or Fiction: Was Atlantis Real?
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The mysteries of the lost city of Atlantis have captivated imaginations for centuries. Erik & Justin explore the evidence for and against its existence, examining historical accounts, archaeological discoveries, and scientific theories to determine if the legend is based in truth.

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Welcome, well, go well do Para Truth Truth, What's up everybody,

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and welcome back to a brand new episode of Paratruth Reborn.

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This is a pre recorded show on one of seven

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point seven FM, New Orleans and one oh five point

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three FM on the Golf Coast and United Public Radio Network.

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My name is Eric, and I'm justin we hope you're all.

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Having a wonderful end to your summer. I can't believe

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it's wrapping up already. Uh. You know, it's actually been

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pretty cool over here in Ohio, like sixties, which is

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weird for August, which is.

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Funny because we've been higher.

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You it's very weird.

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We've been going up and down.

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So we've been in the seventies, like high seventies the

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last three days, but then we're driving back into the

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mid to o sixties starting Thursday. So I don't know,

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I think falls pretty much just like, yeah, I'm bored,

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and I'm coming to kick your door.

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In spooky season right around the corner.

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Yeah, which you know, as long as spooky season is around,

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I don't mind it being cool because you can't have

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hot weather and enjoy you know, it's like Christmas and

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the Bahamas. It don't make sense unless you're in the Bahamas,

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you grew up there. Maybe it doesn't.

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Nothing that makes it a little.

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But anyway, as you guys may remember, last week we

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had mentioned we were talking about Atlantis. This week a

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short continuation of our little series here. Now, Atlantis is

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one of the greatest mysteries of human greatest mysteries of

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human history. The questions are just you know, there are

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tons of questions about Atlantis. You know, scientists, just every

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day investigators, people who simply are interested in the idea

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or you know, the the the reality of Atlantis. It

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just raises so many questions such as was it in

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advanced civilization swallowed by the sea or is it just

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a myth that Plato made up to teach a lesson?

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You know, we have all these different questions and whether

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or not we have answers, well, we're about to find out.

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So get ready, grab yourself a drink or snack, or

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get a drink and a snack. Why not let's live

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a little because we are about to delve into the

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deep history of the myth, lore and possible truths of Atlantis.

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Now it sounds like you're about to say something. But

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before you do, I was gonna say, what are your

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initial pre notions of Atlantis? What did you know or

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learn when you're growing up?

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I mean just pop culture alone. I mean, there was

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a video game that I used to play that the

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theme was time travel, and in the third game of

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the series, you went back to Atlantis, El Dorado, and

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Shangri Law, all of which are not factual in history

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that these civilizations existed other than depictions of them from.

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Third parties basically.

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And I mean you just mentioned Plato is the one

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for Atlantis, but I've always kind of felt it was real,

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but without there's no like physical proof per se. And

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we'll get into it a little bit, one of them being,

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you know, the ruins that they find in the ocean.

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But I can kind of touch on that as we

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get into the history because I've found out something recently

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that I didn't know.

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Okay, yeah, you know it's Atlantis has been one of

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those things that has obviously been discussed pretty much our

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entire lives. I mean literally our entire lives and so

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much longer than that. But it's something you and I

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have discussed over and over and over again throughout the years.

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And each and every day, you know, almost every day

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I see something online about Atlantis and law civilization, whether

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it's a documentary or just simply questions on Reddit or

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on some paranormal forum, you know. And the simple truth is,

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just as we know, there's so much of our sea unexplored,

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like there is more of our sea, of our oceans

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that we do not know about than we do space,

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which is kind of wild, right, And so with that said,

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we see all these civilizations that have been drowned out

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by the ocean. You know, when the waters rise, it

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claims everything. And we know that Earth is really good

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at claiming itself back. You know. It takes over cities,

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it takes over structures that have been abandoned. It's not

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something that's you know, way it's around to do it.

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Either it's done within a month or two, everything turns

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green or it gets washed away. And of course we

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keep seeing new finds, like you said, new archaeological finds

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on various places. In some of these places we don't

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even know what they are. Like there are structures at

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the bottom of the ocean, statues of people and various

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types of figures and animals, and where exactly they came from,

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or who they belong to, Nobody knows, but it's clear

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that there was some sort of structure or some sort

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of maybe city like thing that was there once upon

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a time that either fell into the ocean or was

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no Maybe it was a golf during the great flood

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or during a tsunamis some sort. But you know, when

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it comes to the origins of Atlantis itself, or at

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least a story of Atlantis, we have to date back

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to Plato's dialogues there ran around three sixty BC in particular,

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and manuscripts themselves describe Atlantis as a powerful empire located

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west of the Pillars of Hercules that sank into the

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sea after a natural disaster of earthquakes and floods. This

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was an event recorded by Egyptian priests to the Athenian

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statesman Silent or Solin.

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I believe it's pronounced Solin.

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Yeah, that's what I thought. Now. The island itself was

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larger than the Bea and Asia Minor combined, featuring a

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central city with a temple to Poseidon, and surrounded by

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that was a plane basically criss crossed by concentric rings

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of canals and ditches and fed by mountain streams and

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artificial waterways. Now, the island was incredibly wealthy, as we've

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heard over you know, centuries at this point, and possessed

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basically possessed a timber, abundant resources and precious metals like

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orakel her helk, I think is how that's pronounced. But

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it's people also grew corrupt, angering the gods and leading

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to their destruction and the islands sinking, you know. And

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one thing that I do want to mention, like he

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does give a bit of a kind of a map

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to where this should be located, right, gives this kind

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of an area in which it was surrounded by cities

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and mountains things like that. Like so many times we

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have people searching the depths of the ocean, the deep depths.

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But we have to remember that if that were the

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case in these mountains that also we're feeding these streams

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into Atlantis, they would have to be engulfed to or

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be torn down. So we know it was by earthquake

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and flood that this supposedly disappeared. And you know what's

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really interesting to me is that, according to scripture, if

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anybody knows, and it's not just in the Bible, it's

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recorded history of the Great Flood. There's evidence surrounding us everywhere.

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Basically when it happens, not only is it raining, but

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the earth springs up springs of water that helped to

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engolf it, which means there are these cracks in the

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earth that formed basically in earthquake, right, and which water

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can spewing up and out. So we hear earthquakes and

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floods in the Bible, and here's this city. We know

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those floods sent to destroy wicked things, things God didn't like,

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things that were troubling him because the world or humanity

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in particular, was growing wicked. So I do find that

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very interesting that again, the story of Atlantis does line up,

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at least in terms of its it's fallen state story. Yeah,

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it kind of lines up. Now where exactly it's located

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is the is the big question because we have, you know,

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so many questions about so many things like where's the

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Garden of Reden? Where did that exist? And we have

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a map to that as well, and yet we have

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trouble pinpointing.

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It right, We still can't place it.

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Yeah, and that's that's what baffles me about all of

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this too.

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Is even though we.

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Have a roadmap, there's so many different locations that supposedly

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are theory of where it's located.

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Well, and that's you know, and that's just the things

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like so right now we're describing this based on Plato's

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original manuscript manuscript, right, but over the years, it's kind

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of like you know, we've talked about telephone, you know,

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just like any myth or legend, it grows and it

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grows because when it's told from one person to the next,

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things change, or things are added, they are taken away.

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And so instead of just focusing strictly on Plato's manuscripts,

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we're also trying to cross reference it with other possible

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stories that represent Atlantis as well. And so now you're

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getting this mixed bag of various various explanations where it

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could have been located, which naturally has has scientists and

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explorers alike dotted all over the map trying to find it.

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And you will hear that some people say Atlantis is

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way up north, someone say it's way down south. Someone

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say it's at the equator. Some will say, you know,

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it's off the coast of the United States. Well, others say,

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oh no, it's over you know, near Sicily. It's there's

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just so many different places, and it's all because people

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are interpreting the evidence that.

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They have differently.

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Yeah, and that's why I hate the game Telephone.

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So the one thing that I found fascinating is that

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this actually kind of got buried and then re emerged

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during the Renaissance in Europe. The Critius was largely unknown

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in the Latin West during the Middle Ages and only

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fully emerged with the arrival of the Byzantine scholars and

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Greek manuscripts during the Renaissance. So were these stories buried?

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Was it just you know, countries conquering each other and

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manuscripts being misplaced and then all of a sudden found

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or buried whatever.

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Well, yeah, I mean it could be either of those.

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It could be they destroy the original manuscripts of where

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this exact location was and they try to memorize it,

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but they memory gets faby after so long, or as

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people write it down, it's changed again. Some of the telephone,

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you know, you pass the manuscripts on from one person

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to the next. They recopy it and they change things

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here and there a little bit, not to be facetious

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or make it, you know, unrecognizable and hard to find.

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But because people have different ways of describing things, why

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is there? Uh, you know, I wanna go back to the Bible.

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Why are there four gospels telling the same story four

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times over? You No, Mattew, Mark, Luke, and John all

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tell the story slightly different. But when you take a

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step back and look at it as a whole, you

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realize that they're all the same exact story. It's just

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the author's personality. Yeah, the perspective of how things and

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shows like how or why things had changed in certain areas,

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and a lot of those changes are very small. And

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I think that's the same thing here with Atlantis if

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it did the changes that we're seeing today that we

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don't know. Our changes are actually very small compared to

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the originals. But because there's so many, it's growing them exponentially.

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And so we've lost where its location actually was, or

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is I should say, if it's still there.

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Yeah, so we'll get into the different locations.

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The one thing I didn't find, and maybe.

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It's in the areas that are described, but it didn't

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say Bermuda. Like we talked about last week with the

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Remunia triangle, they claim that maybe Atlantis is the responsible

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party for the Breminia triangle having these anomalies. Right, So

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the first one is the more ancient, like as we go,

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it's it's getting closer and closer history than.

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We remember.

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But Santorini, there was an eruption in Sanderini, and the

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theory proposed that Minoan eruption of Thera or now known

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as Sanderini around sixteen hundred BCE, which destroyed a sophisticated

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Brown Age civilization at Acroteriri. Again, these names are going

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to kill us today, I think, with Tsunamis and ash inspired.

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The myth of Atlantis.

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Proponents suggests the caldera shape with its submerged central island

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and ring of surrounding land and resembles Plato's description of Atlantis,

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which makes a lot of sense. However, the theory faces

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significant challenges, including inconsistencies with Plato's timeline and location of Atlantis,

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and evidence that the Minoan culture was not entirely destroyed

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but rather declined over time. Crete I've heard this theory.

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A couple of times.

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The theory link and Crete to the Last City of

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Atlantis is based on the idea that Plato's description of

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Atlantis might have been inspired by the Minoan civilization, which

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flourished on crete thousands of years ago. While crete didn't

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sink into the sea as described in the Atlantas myth,

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the Minoan civilization did experience a catastrophic and possibly due

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to the eruption of their volcano, which is close to crete,

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and in that video game that I was telling you about,

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it kind of placed it somewhere in between Manoa and Crete.

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Now now we're getting towards closer to our neck of

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the woods in a sense, the Azarus or Canary Islands.

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Both the Azarus and the Canary Islands have been suggested

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as possible locations for the last city of Atlantis, which

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with theories focusing on underwater structures like the submerged mountain

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loos Atlantis near the Canary Islands and alleged ancient megalithic

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constructions and cart ruts on the Azaus. While these locations

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are volcanically formed islands in the Atlantic as described by Plato,

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neither site has conclusive archaeological and geological evidence to suggest

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the existence of Atlantis, with many scholars believing Plato's count

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to be a philosophical allegory rather than a literal historical record. Now,

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one thing I will say before we move a little

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bit further is I saw an article recently that stated

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that there's been evidence to be found that the Greeks

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had a way of breathing underwater with reeds, and that's

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how a lot of these ruins that you see in

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the ocean were built. They built these things either in

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the ocean or brought them down and just used basically

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a snorkel.

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Right to breathe underwater.

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I mean, that's very possible, and to this day people

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still do that using reeds to breathe. Right, that was

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the original, like, yeah, original way to snorkel. You know,

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whether or not it's it's hard to say, you know,

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because like they would have had to have some sort

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of in this case, especially considering it's the sea, so

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we're talking about saltwater here, uh, and ability it would

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have to have the ability to see as well, which

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means they would have had to form some sort of goggles.

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Right.

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Basically, they would have to form a ton of stuff

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in order to be able to stay down at the bottom,

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to weigh themselves down, to be able to use chisel

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or whatever other things that they use down there, and

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whether or not the formations or the rocks that they

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used or whatever other building would tears that they use

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were already there to begin with, or they had to

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move them from the land into the sea to build it.

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You know, there's a lot of technically shot here and

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it kind of reminds you back to like Egypt, like

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how did how did they build the parents?

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And so there's this really strong belief though that that

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Atlantis was very unique in its ability to be technologically

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advanced among all of the other civilizations. Right, it stood

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out as being technologically advanced, and people will, you know,

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they'll give they'll give credence to the possibility of alien help,

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actually terrestrial help to provide them with opportunities to build

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new devices to do this kind of stuff. And whether

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or not that's true is you know, neither here nor there.

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There's no way to prove that currently. But if they

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really were so advanced and even more advanced and as

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someone will say, more advanced in our current society modern history,

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then yeah, there's definitely plenty of opportunities for them to

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actually go unto water and build it. But if they

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that the big question is if they did that, like

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if they went underwater to build this city and these

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mountains of you know, these this what is now ruins?

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Why do it at all? Like why build something that

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no one can see underwater? You know, unless it was

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some way of like praising a god or something or

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you know, some sort of warship.

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Yeah, it would be for praising Poseidon in Greek mythology

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at least, So yes, you're not wrong there. But yeah,

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there's so many more questions that rise up.

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Where we talk about every time.

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Man, right, what what would be the the motivation of

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ancient civilizations to do the things that they did.

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I'm still looking for motivations for some of the stuff

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we do in this day and age.

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So trying to my motivations and things I do this

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day and age, Why did I do that? I don't

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even know what?

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All Right, we got two more locations here, and the

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last one will make a lot of sense to me as.

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To the location, but we'll get into it, all right.

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So the last two areas is the Caribbean Bahamas, which

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does link to the Bermuda triangle because that's in that region.

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It just does not bring up Bermuda as the actual

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area Bamini Road and Edgar Casey's prophecies. The Beamini Road

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is an underwater geological feature off the coast of Bemini, Bahamas,

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consisting of large rectangular limestone blocks that resemble a road

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or wall. It's discovery in nineteen sixty eight coincided with

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a prophecy from psychic Edgar Casey that a portion of

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Atlantis would be revealed near Bemini around the time around

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that time, sorry, leading to speculation that the formation is

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an ancient ruin of the lost city. While some geologists

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suggest the blocks are a natural formation of b Troc

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which makes sense to me, others believe their arrangement indicates

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human construction, but consensus remains elusive. So that's part of

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our issue here with Atlantis as well, is the arguments,

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the constant arguments from scientific and archaeological digs, whether that's

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ocean or whatever, that are conflicting, which causes people to

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believe that Atlantis isn't a real at all. We're just

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arguing about this.

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Right And I don't know if if you've ever some

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of you actually probably have seen it, but if you've

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seen the road, they pictures of this road that Justin

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was just talking about it does look like something that

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should be mad made because it is very uniform, perfect blocks.

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You know, these are ninety degree angles all around. So

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that is that is indeed very interesting because we don't

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typically see that in nature. You know, things tend to

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be a little more rounded, especially when they're in the water.

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It slowly rodes things away, of rocks away. So the

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fact that this particular area is built the way that

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it is does seem very suspicious. But again, there has been,

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as just I said, scientific support in which these things

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could very well be natural elements to our earth. And

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you know, I can't remember exactly how they said it

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would happen, but it you know, it's something that is

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very unique within the water systems in particular. So yeah,

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you know, it's hard to say whether something is man

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made or natural without actually being there, or at least

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being able to tell, like using various ownards as to

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what type of chisels or tools were used on them.

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Mm hmm, you know, guys make sures or whatever.

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They could be due to tectonic plate changes too.

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I mean, it could be but even that's kind of

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weird because like the again, like you look at these

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it's a weird. Like if you guys know what a

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brick street looks like, there's a lot here in Cleveland.

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That's what it looks like. And it's not it's just

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not normal for for for the Earth to the break up.

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I don't to say the Earth to break up Earth.

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I guess now I can say can break up itself,

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but that also doesn't make it's just weird. Okay, it's

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just weird. I've had a long day, guys. Sorry, all right.

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The last theory here is that Atlantis is actually in Antarctica,

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and it posits that the legendary city of Atlantis was

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located and it was now at Antarchica, which was once

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a temperate continent before its catstrophic shift to the polar

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regions and subsequent burial under ice. This popular fringe theory

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largely popularized in the nineteen nineties, which is interesting that

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I've never heard it, because that was around the time

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that I was getting interested in this stuff, as inspired

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by Charles Hapgood's controversial Earth's shifting crust theory, and is

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not supported by scientific evidence, as plate tectonics explains continental

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movements over much larger geological time scales. But it does

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make sense to me because we still don't know what

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Antarctica was before it became Antarctica. And although it says

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that Atlantis fell into the ocean, it being frozen over

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would make you think that it went into the ocean

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because there's no existence of it anywhere, right.

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Yeah, I mean, that's that's hard to say. And again,

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like even with Antarctica, I mean, I know, there's been

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sonar uses to to kind of decipher how deep the

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ice actually extends into the.

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Earth, and they've found pyramids down there too, yeah.

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Which is pretty crazy, and you know, and it goes

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it's pretty deep, you know. Like I remember listening to

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a podcast about exploration and I believe it was on Erner's.

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Was it Ernest Shackleton in this case, I want to

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say it was, That could be wrong. Basically, it was

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early days of exploring the South Pole, trying to reach

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the South Pole, and they were using horses to move stuff,

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which you know, on ice and snow, you don't use

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horses because there's a lot of pressure individually pressed into

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the earth with the hooks. You know, you're supposed to

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use like sleds and use sled dogs. And stuff something right,

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And so these animals, as horses they be, they'd be

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running galloping through Antarctica trying to get to the South Pole,

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and then all of a sudden the horse would just

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disappear into a hole and just there was no end,

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like they just disappeared. And we see that even now

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today with sinkholes. You know, people who just follow the sinkhole.

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You look down, they're gone, there's nothing there. Like the

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It is tremendous just how deep the Earth goes and

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how deep this ice goes. So who knows if there

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is If that is the case, you know, it may

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be miles below the surface, and in that case we

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probably never reach it anyway. On top of the though,

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I do want to say, like there was a time

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when all the continents were located. They're all central and

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one giant mass land, right, and due to the plate

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shift of the Earth, the continent slowly moved apart. So

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it's very possible that Atlantis was indeed at one point

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in a relatively tropical area and then slowly moved south

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into Antarctica. And you know, that's how I ended up

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freezing and potentially being buried by ice and snow another

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thing that I actually wanted to mention, go back a

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little bit to when you're talking about Centorini. You know

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the description of Atlantis basically being a central island and

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having a ring surrounding the land. Anybody know what Pompeii

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looks like, because there is speculation that Atlantis is indeed Pompeii.

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There hasn't been enough evidence to prove it, but it

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is eerily similar in terms of the description of how

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it looks.

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Well.

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I know Shelley's been to Pompeii, so we'll have to

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ask her.

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But Pompeii didn't sink at all, right, well covered in lava.

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Right as far as we know. I mean basically, like

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what was the oh shoot, what was the volcano Vesivius

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seventy nine a d You know, it basically sent out

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a nasty ash cloud that froze people in time. I

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would have no doubt that there were some flooding at

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the time as well, because it would have created tsunamis

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for sure, just the shock alone. But yeah, you know,

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it's there's so many places that just looked very similar

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to this island with a ring around it, And there

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there's places down like in India. This place is near

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within the Bermuda and which is like an island within

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an island within an island. Uh, and you just you know,

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this was a constant ring. So again though, like you said,

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like where where this place could be or what it

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actually looks like, we don't really know. And there's so

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many places that look similar that we can constantly just search, search, search,

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you never find evidence. And it's like, at what point

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do you say that this particular place is indeed atlantis?

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I mean there's so many civilizations that have been buried

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by time.

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Right, Well, and that raise of the question where these

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real locations linked to playo story or retrofitted to the theories

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which humans do time and time again to prove their theory.

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Is that well it says in the story. So by

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this evidence, it's this is where this whatever is?

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Right?

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All right, why don't you go over the evident archaeological evidence?

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Okay, So when it comes to the archaeological evidence, you know,

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there are things for and against. Now, archaeological discoveries in

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particular sunken cities and las civilizations, Uh have been kind

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of there's been a lot. Okay, there's been quite a

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few cities that have stunk into the ocean, to say

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the least. Uh. And there's plenty that are currently sinking,

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and not only into the oceans, but in our own backyard.

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What is it does? Is it South Dakota or where's

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that one city that's currently sinking into a lake?

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Uh?

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That's Devil's Lake.

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And the the reason that it's called Devil'slake is the

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city had already been consumed by the lake.

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And they claim that the devil did it.

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Got it. But yeah, you know, but we have things

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like that like the Again, the earth is constantly consuming

474
00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:51.079
the land. The water does not want.

475
00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:54.039
To stay where it is right. Uh.

476
00:30:54.119 --> 00:30:57.759
But anyway, with some of these these archaeological discoveries, we

477
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:02.240
have first and foremost Pablo Petrie, which is Greece. It's

478
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:06.279
the oldest known submerged city in the world, about five

479
00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:10.839
thousand years old, in particular brown Bronze age town off

480
00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:16.200
the coast of Greece, which remains remarkably intact. Then we

481
00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:24.839
have thus hercleus herkle Yes Eric Leone, my goodness gracious,

482
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:29.480
and Canopus, which is in Egypt. Now these important ancient

483
00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:33.279
Egyptian ports and the Nile Delta sank due to seismic

484
00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:37.400
activity and rising sea levels, with many intact statues and

485
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:43.160
temples that have been discovered. Another one is Outlit Yam,

486
00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:47.519
which is in Israel, and this is again another ancient UH,

487
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:51.519
in this case neolithic village swallowed by the Mediterranean Sea.

488
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:55.960
Now its remains are an important source for understanding early

489
00:31:56.039 --> 00:32:00.599
human settlements. But again it just tells us that there

490
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:03.759
are plenty of places that get sunk or gobbled up

491
00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:07.759
right by the oceans. And then of course we have UH.

492
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:13.839
I only want to say Bay, but that's not entirely Aye,

493
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:18.759
which is in Italy, and this is a Roman resort

494
00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:23.200
town which is now underwater due to again geological uplift

495
00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:28.440
and subsidence, subsidence in the region, with remains of villas

496
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:36.680
and nymphium of Emperor Claudius and the This keeps going on.

497
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:39.559
Dwarka of India and ancient city found in the Gulf

498
00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:44.079
of Cambe featuring pillars, city grids and ancient artifacts, adding

499
00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:46.920
again to the mystery of its origin and age. And

500
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:51.279
then Lion City in China also known as Shi Chang.

501
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:56.359
This ancient city in particular was artificially submerged, submerged to

502
00:32:56.400 --> 00:33:00.400
create a reservoir and is not a popular diving site.

503
00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:04.400
And then we have Port Royal in Jamaica, a Caribbean

504
00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:08.079
pirate city that sank in an earthquake in sixteen ninety two,

505
00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:14.359
offering a glimpse into the poetical era. Now there are

506
00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:17.799
various reasons again as to why these places sunk, and

507
00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:24.039
why various cities, towns, countries, even you know, begin to sink.

508
00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:29.200
One of course, is geological possibilities, the tectonic shifts among

509
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:32.200
our earth tsunamis, which we have seen plenty of over

510
00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:36.119
the last fifteen years, basically which just happened too long

511
00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:40.319
ago due to an earthquake, rising sea levels. Again we're

512
00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:45.359
talking about climate change. But then there's this lack of

513
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:50.559
direct evidence connecting anything to Atlantis. You see, like people

514
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:53.839
don't know what exactly is a Atlantis, Like we don't

515
00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:57.240
have We have a small description of what it should

516
00:33:57.240 --> 00:33:58.759
be or what it could have been, but we don't

517
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:01.920
have any examples of what had existed at any given time.

518
00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:05.279
So if we were even to find Atlantis without having

519
00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:07.799
a name, this is this is the city of Atlantis,

520
00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:10.519
and we can date it carbon dated to being around

521
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:13.559
the time that Atlantis would have existed, we simply don't

522
00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:21.800
have proof that it is indeed Atlantis. You know. On

523
00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:26.199
top of that, there is, of course plenty of scientific skepticisms.

524
00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:29.280
I don't think even just scientific skepticism. I think it's

525
00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:35.840
just a natural skepticism among people everywhere because Atlantis, again

526
00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:37.599
is one of those things that has been told to

527
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:40.920
us as a tale. Since we're infants basically, right, we

528
00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:43.079
all heard of Atlantis at some point or anothert least

529
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:46.320
most of us have, and it has often been described

530
00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:48.000
as being a myth, and it has been used in

531
00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:52.800
literature and pop culture as a myth as this place

532
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:56.159
that you know, it's kind of like a fairy tale

533
00:34:56.199 --> 00:34:58.960
existence here among the earth, the place that is on

534
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:03.920
like any other place in the world. And so with that,

535
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:09.400
there's just skepticism as to whether or not Atlantis itself

536
00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:13.000
ever really truly existed, because we have yet to see

537
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:16.199
any description of it. Not only of Atlantis itself, but

538
00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:19.320
like in any older culture, you know, most cultures, they'll

539
00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:22.719
they'll acknowledge another culture around them or of some far

540
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:28.559
away country or state due to its power and strength.

541
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:29.960
There's the tail.

542
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:32.159
Yeah, yeah, he's been up here, the whole time. But

543
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:37.000
he's just right now. But yet we've seen nothing here, right,

544
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:41.039
there's just been no indication that Atlantis has existed ever.

545
00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:47.719
Yeah and then oh yeah, go ahead, Oh I'm.

546
00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:52.599
Just gonna say, it's only been like us all on

547
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:56.960
the fringe area, theorizing what this was, right.

548
00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:01.199
And yeah, so when it comes to you know, the

549
00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:05.920
fringe beliefs, the simple fact or I should say, yeah,

550
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:08.840
the simple fact that Atlantis as an advanced civilization or

551
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:15.559
even an extraterrestrial linked society isn't really a fact, Like,

552
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:18.559
it's just something that has to be speculation. Like even nowadays,

553
00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:21.039
we we've been seeing you know, more and more increases

554
00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:24.280
in UFOs, Right, We've talked about this many times here

555
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:29.159
on this show. And yet we don't have significant, infallible

556
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:33.360
proof that these UFOs are extraterrestrial in nature. All we

557
00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:36.199
know is that there are these interesting objects that are

558
00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:39.440
seen in the sky by our eyes, by our cameras,

559
00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:45.480
and that's it. So to say that Atlantis was, indeed,

560
00:36:46.639 --> 00:36:53.159
you know, this hypothetical major city above all the others

561
00:36:53.199 --> 00:37:00.239
that was advanced technologically and even linked through extraterrestrial societ

562
00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:07.800
kind of just puts more of the skepticism, I think

563
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:10.719
on the plate because this thing is like, this city

564
00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:13.519
has so much rhyming, it so much pulled into that

565
00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:19.800
they can't be real. It couldn't have existed. Well.

566
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:25.000
And yeah, I mean literally the the wording that you

567
00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:29.480
use cringe belief. There's a huge difference between belief and

568
00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:38.159
scientific fact or evidence. So that that really boils down

569
00:37:38.199 --> 00:37:44.360
to that. Atlantis and culture and paranormal circles is kind

570
00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:53.840
of leading this belief system in Atlantis. And there's I mean,

571
00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:57.119
there's so much stuff in pop culture and and you know,

572
00:37:57.199 --> 00:38:01.079
film literature. Like I mentioned it was a PC video

573
00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:06.679
game like Disney's Atlantis Aquaman. That's the DC side Namer,

574
00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:13.599
which was the Marvel side. It's bringing it's bringing all

575
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:16.559
of this back to the forefront of people's minds. And

576
00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:23.440
in that that we are are leading our theories quote

577
00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:28.960
unquote by pop culture. You know, you've got also the

578
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:36.960
esoteric traditions. Atlantis is a theosophy, New Age and psychic readings,

579
00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:44.960
paranormal connections with advanced crystal technology, which in my mind,

580
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:47.719
we have advanced crystal technology.

581
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:51.039
Now it may not be the.

582
00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:55.760
Advanced crystal technology that the theories are talking about. But

583
00:38:56.000 --> 00:39:03.239
energy sources and psychic powers or abilities. And then it

584
00:39:03.360 --> 00:39:11.639
really brings the question how modern conspiracy theories and spiritual

585
00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:15.719
movements link to Atlantis, And so what are your thoughts

586
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:16.400
on that?

587
00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:22.159
Like, is this because we have so many.

588
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:25.760
Different conspiracy theories out there saying you know, there's stuff

589
00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:28.400
that's being suppressed and whatever. And it's not that I

590
00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:32.800
don't believe that certain things are being suppressed, but with

591
00:39:33.159 --> 00:39:36.920
the spiritual movement and conspiracy theories coming up into modern

592
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:41.360
day and making it more prevalent that you know, Atlantis

593
00:39:41.519 --> 00:39:43.440
was real, we're just being told it wasn't.

594
00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:46.320
Blah blah blah. What are some of your thoughts on that?

595
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:52.960
I mean, you know, for whatever reason that Plato wrote,

596
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:56.800
you know, the initial story of Atlantis, I think at

597
00:39:56.800 --> 00:39:58.599
this point is insignificant.

598
00:39:59.000 --> 00:39:59.159
Right.

599
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.760
It exists in the minds of humanity because of the

600
00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:09.079
power that we poured into it, and it's like POMPEII

601
00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:11.320
or I'm sorry, I'm thinking, I'm thinking it's something regarden

602
00:40:11.360 --> 00:40:18.880
poppey right now. But if Atlantis or I think that

603
00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:22.960
Atlantis is kind of like it's kind of like this

604
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:26.960
ideal world that I think people would want to live

605
00:40:26.960 --> 00:40:30.960
in themselves. Right, a place that is at the peak

606
00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:36.679
of all civilizations. So how do you advance so tactically driven,

607
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:40.760
so more or less perfect city of gold type of thing. Right,

608
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:43.000
We're talking like Heaven on Earth in a way in

609
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:48.320
some cases. And because it's been made so extravagant over

610
00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:56.119
the years, I think there's just this misunderstanding or misideal

611
00:40:56.519 --> 00:41:01.719
of what it could have actually been. Right, Like Atlantis,

612
00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:04.760
if it did exist, may not have been any more

613
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:11.079
technologically advanced than any other civilization around the world. But

614
00:41:12.039 --> 00:41:15.239
because it disappeared, and we have this one particular story

615
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:20.280
from Plato, I think people just pour into it and

616
00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:23.480
pour into it, poor into hoping that they'll be the

617
00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:26.960
one to find this giant treasure. Right, That's what it

618
00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:29.360
is at this point. It's a treasure hunt, and whoever

619
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:35.000
gets it gets all spoiled and riches. But yeah, you know,

620
00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:40.679
I mean it's used in pop culture, it's used in

621
00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:44.000
film and in literature, and it's constantly added to and

622
00:41:44.039 --> 00:41:50.159
its ability to outdo the rest of the world. And

623
00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:51.480
then on top of that, like the idea of the

624
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:54.840
advanced crystal technology and resources, all that stuff that all

625
00:41:54.880 --> 00:41:58.039
comes back to the whole extratrectial thing, mind you in

626
00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:02.519
the beginning of of the Bible and predict the Genesis

627
00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:03.360
six and we talk.

628
00:42:03.239 --> 00:42:08.000
About, uh, the the sons of God in this case

629
00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:12.199
angels coming down and bearing women children.

630
00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:18.760
We talk about the nephilom right, These are heroes or giants,

631
00:42:19.159 --> 00:42:22.880
They were renowned. These are individuals that are capable of

632
00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:28.719
teaching civilizations the unknown stuff that we learned today. You know,

633
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:32.880
so many will argue that some of the things that

634
00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:39.079
we learned, like psychic abilities or using crystal technology, was

635
00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:43.360
taught to us by these angelic human hybrids. Some will

636
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:45.599
say it's actra treacial so aliens that taught us that.

637
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:48.199
But again I've said it before, it's very possible that

638
00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:50.159
the nephil them themselves are the aliens.

639
00:42:50.719 --> 00:42:51.039
Uh.

640
00:42:51.400 --> 00:42:55.239
You know, these these creatures basically that were able to

641
00:42:55.519 --> 00:43:02.199
create and use technology way so advanced, like you know,

642
00:43:02.559 --> 00:43:06.519
down thousands and thousands of years in advance technology compared

643
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:11.159
to what was in modern time during those days. And

644
00:43:11.199 --> 00:43:14.760
if that's the case, that you know, it's very possible

645
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:17.800
that if Atlanta was indeed a real place, and it

646
00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:19.920
was built as big as it was and had the

647
00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:22.719
technology that it did, then maybe there was something they're

648
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:25.119
helping them out, Like how can a single type of

649
00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:27.480
human that that type of have that type of power

650
00:43:27.519 --> 00:43:31.840
and yet not exist, like cease to exist. There had

651
00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:35.920
to be a wrisen to their downfall, Like even if

652
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:41.360
if Atlantis fell into the ocean, there should have been survivors.

653
00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:46.119
It wouldn't typically just happen overnight and as it did.

654
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:48.440
And that goes back to my biblical statement at the

655
00:43:48.440 --> 00:43:49.159
beginning of the show.

656
00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:57.440
Well, so you're saying more an ideology if Atlantis was real,

657
00:43:57.719 --> 00:44:00.599
an ideology that it was a utopian, not that it

658
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:06.159
actually was right well, and so not to add to the.

659
00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:08.000
Conspiracy theory, but in the.

660
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:16.079
Game I was talking about, it really emphasized the extraterrestrial

661
00:44:16.119 --> 00:44:18.840
part because it was a time travel game, but it

662
00:44:18.920 --> 00:44:23.960
was also we've made contact with aliens or extraterrestrials because

663
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:31.039
they warned us that this technology would be harmful.

664
00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:35.239
But that it was.

665
00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:41.000
Two warring races of extraterrestrials that destroyed Shangri Law, El

666
00:44:41.039 --> 00:44:45.440
Dorado and Atlantis. They didn't go into you know, other

667
00:44:46.679 --> 00:44:55.599
last civilizations that have been supposedly advanced civilizations that for

668
00:44:55.679 --> 00:44:59.719
their time, but it was it was really pushing that

669
00:44:59.800 --> 00:45:06.360
the that it was extraterrestrials that caused the destruction, right.

670
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:10.639
Well, and that's very possible as well. Like and I

671
00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:12.519
think that's part of the problem is there's just so

672
00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:17.440
much speculation. You know that it has everybody spinning, and

673
00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:20.239
nobody knows which way to go, what to hold on to, because,

674
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:23.679
like you know, you start to develop a theory and

675
00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:25.360
you start following that theory, but then all of a

676
00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:28.639
sudden a new piece of evidence pops up. Instead of

677
00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:33.159
continuing on your journey, you take a fork of the

678
00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:38.440
road and now you're searching something for something possibly in

679
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:44.519
somewhere completely different, and before you know it, you're just

680
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:46.960
old and gray and on your deathbed.

681
00:45:48.119 --> 00:45:51.519
Right, maybe you'll find out what happened to.

682
00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:55.079
Maybe you'll find out then, you know, I don't know,

683
00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:58.679
Like it's there's there's so much speculation as to why Atlantis,

684
00:45:58.679 --> 00:46:01.239
if it existed, disappeared, and whether or not it was

685
00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:04.119
extra treshiows that destroyed it. There's God that destroyed it,

686
00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:08.760
whether it was a natural Earth event that destroyed it,

687
00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:12.280
we will never know, or at least not in I don't

688
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:15.199
think anytime soon. I don't think in our lifetime, that's

689
00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:18.119
for sure. Atlantis is probably one of the most highly

690
00:46:18.159 --> 00:46:23.920
sought out civilizations ever and it has yet to be found,

691
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:28.400
But they keep finding other things, which I guess is

692
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:31.679
kind of beneficial. I was learning about history, just not

693
00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:33.719
the history we want.

694
00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:39.320
Well, then you know that really boils down to like,

695
00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:45.360
was Atlantis just you know, a cautionary tale of humors

696
00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:50.039
and about the downfall civilizations? Because I mean history will

697
00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:55.239
will teach us time and again that civilizations will come

698
00:46:55.239 --> 00:47:02.679
and go. We should be learning lessons from history. There's

699
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:06.519
possible parallels to today's society. Look at what's going on

700
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:12.320
right now with climate change, the misuse of technology, the

701
00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:16.639
list goes on and on, and political changes that are

702
00:47:16.639 --> 00:47:25.800
constantly happening within our society. You know, if Atlantis existed,

703
00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:31.920
and really we can just leave it up to you guys,

704
00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:33.840
if it did or didn't, we'll kind of give our

705
00:47:33.880 --> 00:47:36.719
final thoughts about it. But what lessons should we take

706
00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:43.840
from it, Like should we be looking more at how

707
00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:50.599
we are living today and kind of adjust Because if

708
00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:54.360
Atlantis was destroyed because it was too advanced, say it

709
00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:58.719
was extra treasturials, they felt that or maybe Atlantis was

710
00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:03.920
an experimental city, let's say, buy extraterrestrials, and it got

711
00:48:03.960 --> 00:48:08.760
too powerful because we somehow just figured out how to

712
00:48:08.840 --> 00:48:14.599
use the technology of the extraterrestrials against them. You know,

713
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:17.840
do we need to kind of slow down in this

714
00:48:17.960 --> 00:48:18.880
society today?

715
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:19.480
Today?

716
00:48:20.519 --> 00:48:23.679
We've been through several ice ages on this Earth. I

717
00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:27.159
shouldn't say we, the Earth has been through several ice ages.

718
00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:32.199
So with climate change that we're we're at right now,

719
00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:39.199
maybe we start preparing for possible small ice age. What

720
00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:44.559
does that look like? We don't know, but I really

721
00:48:44.599 --> 00:48:47.159
want to hear you guys thoughts on that too, because

722
00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:49.960
it's one of those things that we can just sit

723
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:54.480
here speculate all we want, but I would really love

724
00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:59.960
to hear other people's thoughts. So we did a poll

725
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:06.719
before today's episode, and basically it was, you know, do

726
00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:12.159
you believe Atlantis was real? There was yes, no, I

727
00:49:12.199 --> 00:49:17.400
don't know or not sure, but I would love to speculate,

728
00:49:18.119 --> 00:49:21.639
and the majority was not sure.

729
00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:23.920
But I would love to speculate here.

730
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:28.159
Earlies well, I mean, there's no doubt. It's fun to

731
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:34.119
talk about, right, fun to think about. I think it

732
00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:38.559
would be cool if Atlantis did exist, whether or not

733
00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:42.840
it existed to you know, on part of what we

734
00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:46.079
currently believe it to have been. You know, that's a

735
00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:49.519
separate thing altogether. But I think if we did find

736
00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:55.320
a city named Atlantis, I think, I mean, a lot

737
00:49:55.320 --> 00:49:57.800
of people would just it blowed their minds, you know.

738
00:49:58.199 --> 00:49:59.920
I think a lot of people would just lose it.

739
00:50:02.039 --> 00:50:04.320
Well, I mean, the same thing can be said for

740
00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:08.960
if extraterrestrials actually made contact because we're not you know,

741
00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:11.679
we've we've talked about this lot with guests and even

742
00:50:12.679 --> 00:50:15.400
just doing individual shows with just you and I that

743
00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:18.159
it's not gonna be the governments to give us this information.

744
00:50:18.360 --> 00:50:22.119
Let's be extraterrestrials to actually reach out to the populace.

745
00:50:23.239 --> 00:50:25.800
I think people would be losing their freaking minds about

746
00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:26.239
that too.

747
00:50:26.480 --> 00:50:29.480
But yeah, no, one hundred percent, you know, and I've

748
00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:32.639
got friends who one thousand percent believe that, you know,

749
00:50:33.559 --> 00:50:38.559
there's going to be a moment within the next year

750
00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:41.239
or so in which astatricial life makes it self known

751
00:50:41.559 --> 00:50:43.920
on the on their own. And again that's something we've

752
00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:46.559
talked about here on the show. Yeah, since like last

753
00:50:46.599 --> 00:50:52.480
summer basically, So it's it's really interesting. This is an

754
00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:56.119
interesting time that we're living in for sure, both in

755
00:50:56.320 --> 00:51:00.960
making modern history, but also and kind of subscribing to

756
00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:06.320
history itself. And the one thing that I notice is how,

757
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:09.960
especially as an individual living in at the US of

758
00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:14.559
A how history repeats itself over and over again, and

759
00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:18.760
not saying that, you know, any one country relives itself

760
00:51:18.920 --> 00:51:21.719
its own, you know, history over and over, but it

761
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:25.039
relives each other's history in many ways, you know. And

762
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:27.239
again it reminds me of the Scripture. Is like there's

763
00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:30.360
going to be rumors of wars, and there's going to

764
00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:34.559
be earthquakes and you know, disasters, and these are all

765
00:51:34.599 --> 00:51:36.519
going to be growing pains, things that make us think

766
00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:38.519
the end is coming. With the end isn't going to come,

767
00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:41.400
because instead it's going to come like a thief in

768
00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:43.559
the night. Basically, we're not going to know what happens.

769
00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:45.800
And I think a lot of what we're witnessing today,

770
00:51:46.199 --> 00:51:49.320
like in this world, I think it's a setup to

771
00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:53.760
an extent to make us focus in on the scary

772
00:51:53.800 --> 00:51:56.519
things that are happening and make us think about our

773
00:51:56.679 --> 00:51:59.360
past and what needs to be changed instead of focusing

774
00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:02.719
on our futures. Uh and even on our more in

775
00:52:02.719 --> 00:52:07.800
part particular on our present tense moments, right, Like, I

776
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:09.960
think so many people, myself included, are so focused on

777
00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:12.199
the past of the future we forget to live now.

778
00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:17.920
And you know, by all means, we can speculate about

779
00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:21.960
Atlantis as much as we want, but for those who

780
00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:25.480
are interested in securing it, finding it, you know, like,

781
00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:28.000
what is the benefit of that? I think it's the

782
00:52:28.079 --> 00:52:31.960
question we need to ask. But also what can we

783
00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:34.639
learn from it? What can we learn from the story

784
00:52:34.679 --> 00:52:37.719
of Atlantis? Like at what point do we raise ourself

785
00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:43.199
too high on a pedestal? You know, there's like I

786
00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:48.880
forget the exact saying, but basically it's it's from a

787
00:52:49.239 --> 00:52:51.920
rapper named the Cree, a Christian rapper, and he calls

788
00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:55.280
it a power trip. Somebody who becomes so full of themselves,

789
00:52:55.280 --> 00:53:00.719
so prideful, so involve in what they have, that eventually

790
00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:04.159
they trip over their own power and they fall and

791
00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:07.800
they're humbled. And I think if anything comes to light

792
00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:10.559
here regard in Atlantis, is that it did, if it exists,

793
00:53:10.559 --> 00:53:14.400
it became so big, so magnificent, that it started to

794
00:53:14.440 --> 00:53:18.559
boast about itself instead of helping other civilizations and cities

795
00:53:18.559 --> 00:53:23.000
and countries around it, that eventually it tripped and destruction

796
00:53:23.079 --> 00:53:26.320
came its way, whether it's by their own hand or

797
00:53:26.320 --> 00:53:31.280
someone else's, you know, who's to say. But I think

798
00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:33.119
that's something we need to take away from here, is

799
00:53:33.119 --> 00:53:37.119
there's a reason Atlantis doesn't exist today. You know? Why

800
00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:38.039
is it? You know?

801
00:53:40.440 --> 00:53:40.639
Well?

802
00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:45.079
And there is that quote that of course I don't

803
00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:48.719
know who who said it, but you know, those that

804
00:53:49.039 --> 00:53:54.920
do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

805
00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:53.000
Right.

806
00:53:55.719 --> 00:53:58.840
We're seeing time and time again the history repeats itself,

807
00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:04.960
not to the exact letter per se, but we are

808
00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:11.440
constantly repeating history because I'll just say, the higher ups

809
00:54:12.280 --> 00:54:15.079
don't want to learn from history, like Eric just mentioned,

810
00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:17.920
they're just worried about power. They don't care what happens.

811
00:54:18.920 --> 00:54:23.599
And that that's pretty sad because we should be growing

812
00:54:23.639 --> 00:54:25.960
as a people, not declining.

813
00:54:26.480 --> 00:54:31.079
Right. Not to make it all political, no, I'm totally not.

814
00:54:31.320 --> 00:54:35.320
I'm just saying humanity as a whole, we're not learning

815
00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:36.360
from history.

816
00:54:36.360 --> 00:54:38.079
No, for sure. But you know, but I think that

817
00:54:38.199 --> 00:54:40.480
takes us back to Atlantis because I think there's you

818
00:54:40.519 --> 00:54:43.280
know again, there's so much speculation. I see why it

819
00:54:43.320 --> 00:54:45.559
no longer exists if it did exist, like why did

820
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:47.800
it fall? Why was it? Everyone wants to say, oh,

821
00:54:47.800 --> 00:54:50.800
it's destroyed by this, that, that, or this. Like I

822
00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:52.960
say at the beginning of the show, if you were

823
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:56.599
to abandon your house for a year, just leave it

824
00:54:56.760 --> 00:54:59.119
for a year, don't come back, don't check on it. Nothing.

825
00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:02.280
When you come back, I bet there's vines coming up

826
00:55:02.360 --> 00:55:04.960
up the you know, coming up the side of the house.

827
00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:08.039
You got trees growing and destroying the foundation. You probably

828
00:55:08.119 --> 00:55:11.800
have animals living inside of it. That's after a year, right,

829
00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:16.840
probably there's completely different. So there's a good chance that

830
00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:22.039
whatever civilization existed in Atlantis, the Alantheans maybe weren't as

831
00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:25.000
powerful as they thought they did, and a rival came

832
00:55:26.239 --> 00:55:29.679
destroyed and plunged the city. It became the ghost town,

833
00:55:30.360 --> 00:55:34.079
and the earth took back what it's rightually belongs to itself,

834
00:55:35.239 --> 00:55:37.199
right if there was no one there to tend it.

835
00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:42.079
And that's why Atlantis disappeared. Either the people there were

836
00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:47.559
destroyed or they just simply left and they raced history themselves.

837
00:55:49.039 --> 00:55:50.920
And we're going to make that your final thoughts.

838
00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:54.920
That's fair. I'm not going to even ask because I

839
00:55:54.920 --> 00:55:55.679
don't want to hear no.

840
00:55:55.800 --> 00:56:03.800
But OK, well, I hope you all have enjoyed this,

841
00:56:04.800 --> 00:56:09.239
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842
00:56:09.360 --> 00:56:12.679
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843
00:56:14.280 --> 00:56:14.960
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844
00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:19.679
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845
00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:22.840
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846
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847
00:56:26.119 --> 00:56:29.519
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848
00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:32.239
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849
00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:33.960
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850
00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:39.159
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852
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854
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856
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858
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