May 4, 2025

Hidden Legends: Exploring the Mysteries of Appalachia

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In this episode of ParaTruth: Reborn, Erik & Justin journey deep into Appalachia’s shadowy hollows to uncover the legends that have shaped the region’s supernatural landscape. From the Mothman to the Moon-Eyed People, and curses passed down through bloodlines, we explore the chilling truths behind these age-old myths. Are they just stories—or is something still lurking in the dark?

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Welcome. Well, well do Para Truth Truth, what's up? And

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welcome to a new episode of Paratruth Radio. I'm sorry Paratruth.

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You boring. Wow, that hasn't happened in a while, so

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we look I did. This is his a pre recorded

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show on when I was seven point seven FM, New Orleans,

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and you're not in public Radio network.

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My name is Eric and I'm justin And I was

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mistaken last week when I said we were going to

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have a guest this week. It's actually next week where

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we're gonna be having Rich step on and we'll get

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into that at the end of the show. But I

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wanted to correct that now, so nobody's expecting a guest.

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And now we just lost a bunch of listeners. Oh no,

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So today we're going to talk about one of the

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probably the most infamous areas in the United States, and

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that is the Appalachian Mountains, which is home to a

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rich tapestry of folklore passed down through generations and generations.

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This particular episode delves into the myths and legends and

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stories that have shaped the region's identity and continue to

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captivate the imagination of thousands of people around the world. Now,

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the Appalation Mountains is actually the oldest mountain range in

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the US. In fact, some believe, according to archaeology anyway,

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that the Appalation Mountains are actually as big, if not

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even bigger than the Rocky Mountains. That one point, but

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over the course of thousands and thousands of years, the

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Appalachian Mountains have crumbled and slowly degraded and became smaller.

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If you've ever went, like driven through the Appalation Mountains,

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you probably used to the very smoky aspect to much

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of the northern part of it north to like mid uh.

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I guess I would say mid United States to the north,

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because like the southern portion of the of the of

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the appellation isn't all that smoky. But when you're driving

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through the Appalation Mountains, there tends to be a lot

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of humidity between them, and a lot of thunderstorms tend

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to prop up pretty regularly, so it tends to create

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this fog that kind of sits between the mountains within

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the valleys, and it just creates this kind of spooky atmosphere,

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especially when you start to consider all of the various

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stories that have evolved from the Appellations now. The Appalachian

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region boasts a unique cultural identity shaped by its history,

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its geography, and the blending of Native American, European and

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African American traditions. And its identity is characterized by strong

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family ties, a connection to the land, and a diverse

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array of cultural expressions, including traditional music, crafts, food ways,

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and even folklore itself. In fact, Appalachia is one of

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those places that is so unique in its identification that

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there are a number of groups on Facebook and just

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throughout social media dedicated to the Apple Let me also

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say Appalachia as some will say, I'm from the Northeast,

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so it's Appalachia. But there are a number of groups

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dedicated to this region and the various stories that exist

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within them, primarily the stories of like ghosts and cryptids

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in particular, not to mention the number of urban legends

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that tend to exist as well.

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And it's amazing how urban legends kind of melds into

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the cryptid as well, because I mean, if you think

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about it, that the mothman legend could be an urban legend,

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like where we're from, Ohio, the melon heads of Ohio

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is an urban legend, but they could also be viewed

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as cryptives as well.

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Well, one hundred percent. So one thing regarding Appolition history

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is the oral traditions, which are very crucial to understanding

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its history and its culture. Now they serve as the

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primary means of transmitting knowledge, beliefs, and values across generations,

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shaping the region's identity and worldview. Again, a lot of

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people know about the Appalachian Mountain Range from all over

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the world, and people flock to it on the regular

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to just enjoy the atmosphere of what is the mountain Range,

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but also for those spooky, spooky stories that exist within

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them as well throughout history. Now, this includes the stated

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earlier some storytelling, music, and folklore which preserved the history,

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shared experience experiences, and reflected the unique character of an

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Appalachian life. Now, storytelling is one of the primary ways

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or examples in which the Appalachian Mountains have really grown

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in their identity overall amongst so many people. In fact,

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you can ask any individual who lives anywhere near them,

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whether they're in West Virginia, Virginia, North Carolina, southern Ohio,

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you name it. Anyone you encounter in those areas who

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live in those states, they probably have some sort of story,

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either a first hand witness account or the secondhand witness

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account of something spooky happening, or just a story that

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was passed down from more generation to the next. And

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there are a number of different bookstores also throughout the

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Mountain Range that you can go and actually pick up

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basically folklore stories based on the Mountain Range, especially within

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the area soles Virginia or if you're in Virginia, you

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know these places actually have books dedicated to those states

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about all the folklore within the mountains.

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And if I remember right, we had somebody on who

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we had met at Scarefest that had a collection of

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those stories, and of course I didn't have the book

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ready to share that. But on the regional show of

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the show Para Truth Radio, there is an episode where

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we talked to somebody about the different legends that he

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had jotted down in his book.

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Now, when it comes to storytelling, and especially appleach and storytelling,

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it includes a lot of ballads and folk tales conveyed,

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often conveyed tales of love, of hardship, triumph and capturing

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the echoes of time and mind you again, this particular

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range is a treasure trove of history within itself. It

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was a mountain range that helped or that was there

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really with the establishment of the United States. It was very,

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very unique and important to the natives early on before

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American history. There is just again a lot of history

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that reinforces the actual folklore that exists for this particular

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area of the States. And music is another thing that

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we've talked a little bit about, and with the Appalachian

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music in particular, we're talking about folk music with its

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storytelling elements and unique instruments. It reflects the region's history

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and cultural influences. And then of course there's the folklore

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itself with its supernatural beings, moral lessons, and trickster like characters,

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which gain reinforces the cultural values and offers insight into

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the collective experiences of the Apalachian peoples. So when it

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comes to folklore and the appellation history, it's very crucial.

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The folklor itself is very crucial in preserving the Appalachian

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ancestral knowledge and values by transmitting cultural traditions, stories and

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customs through oral traditions and shared experiences, and it serves

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as a way to communities, I'm sorry, it serves as

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a way for communities to pass down beliefs, morals, and

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a sense of identity, reinforcing a connection to the past

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and shaping the present. And again, if you ever go

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on to any of these Appalachian groups, you will find

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a granding number of people who are so dedicated to

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the mythology that exists within the Appalachian Mountains and the

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number of people that come together to talk about these things.

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It is very unique element within the United States in particular.

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Yeah, I mean, growing up, I think both of us

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always was either hearing stories or I mean we've used

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to tell stories back in the day. And you know,

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telling stories around the campfire originated well before people came

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here from the East, but I think in the Appalachia

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region that kind of reinforced, says those fire campfire stories,

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because it was the way that they would tell this

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this history and this folklore to everybody else.

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Right well, and not to mention like, you know, you

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you have to consider why the folklore exists in the

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first place. And you know, in most cases, or in

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some cases, I should say, there is as we've said

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on the show, I'm sure plenty of times there tends

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to be a hint of truth at least in every folklore,

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uh folkloric story. But there aren't in some cases folklore legends,

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et cetera, that are simply just made up, uh a

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manager to imaginative or they took on kind of a

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life there of themselves. Where you know, it begins as

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one idea, one story, then kind of like this game

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of telephone, the story is added better, is more and

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more added to the story, more elements, more things that

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make it scarier. Uh. One thing about the mountain range

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here is a lot of it isn't explored. It's you know,

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it's much like any mountain range for that matter. It's

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just it's very densely forested. There are creatures, noises, things

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like that that you don't always encounter in the cities

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or the surrounding areas of the mountains even and so

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there are things that are very unique to this mountain range,

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and it naturally inspires a kind of mythology and a

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horror esque belief system behind them. And I've spent so

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many years driving through the Appelachia Mountains. I lived in

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Virginia for three years. I lived in Georgia for two

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and a half years. I lived at you know, I

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grew up in Cleveland, so my family was here, So

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I was constantly driving back and forth from Virginia to Ohio,

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to Georgia, back to Ohio and again, like I was,

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I was living in the valley of the Blue Ridge

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Mountains when I was in Virginia, so I was able

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to soak up all kinds of stories regarding rubberries, incidents

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or belief systems around that area. But yeah, you know, again,

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this is like, I feel like these stories are some

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of the unique ones. Not to I don't want to

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mind that there are so many various stories throughout the country,

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throughout the world, but there is something vastly unique to

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the Appalachian Mountains that I think draws people. And I

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think that in and of itself is kind of mysterious

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to me.

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Well, and I mean you have to look at you know,

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Like you mentioned earlier, the rich blend of Native American, Celtic,

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European African American folklore that influenced all of that area.

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Shaped by the unique environment and history of the region.

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Native American traditions, particularly those of the Cherokee and the Shawnee,

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contributed to the Appalachian folklore through mythology, plant lore and

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spiritual beliefs. Celtic influences largely from Scotch Irish immigrants, and

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that even comes out this way to North Dakota too,

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because there were a lot of Irish that were working

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on the railroads back then, so they migrated this way

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as well.

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But the.

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Folklore tradition isn't as dense here because it's not as

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populated here as it is closer to the East coast.

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So I mean, you've got the Native American and the

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scotch Irish and the Germans here, but German folklore it's

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a little bit different. They kept kind of secretive, kind

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of like na American folklore, it's kind of secretive, kept

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to the chess type of deal. But the Scotch Irish

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brought storytelling, ballads and musical traditions. European folk tales and superstitions,

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particularly those from England and Germany, also played a significant

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role in shaping Appalachian folklore or.

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Something.

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When I was doing this research for this and got

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our show notes ready, I picked out some of the

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best ones. I shouldn't even say the best ones, the

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most popular ones, but there's so many. But Eric, you

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can tell me if you've heard or not heard of these.

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I think for the most part, we've both heard of these.

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I've heard of them. I mean obviously I've already looked

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at the notes. So yeah, well, plenty well aware all

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of them.

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Well, the only one that I was kind of unfamiliar

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with was the wampst cat.

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So, okay, that's not what I would have guessed. I

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guess you were going to say, like the mountain lights.

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Yeah, I was kind of familiar with those. So, but

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the big Foot in Sasquatch. I kept this one really

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brief because we've talked about the big in Sasquatch till

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I think both me and Eric are blue in the

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face and still don't have one hundred percent belief on

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which side of the fence and on as far as

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if the Bigfoot is real or if it's a spiritual

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creature or what. But the Appalachian Mountains are a popular

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location Bigfoot sightings, with tales of this a play creature

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inhabiting the deep woods. You know, pretty much any forested

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area is kind of where the Sasquatch or Bigfoot's stomping

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ground is. There will be those that say that Sasquatch

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and Bigfoot are actually two separate species of the same family.

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Well, I actually you probably remember this, this story, but

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I actually thought I had encountered a bigfoot one time

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driving through West virgin I think it was west of

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virgin either Northern Virginia or southern West Virginia, while driving

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on the freeway.

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I think you brought this up on Tim Saddano's fair site.

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So you know, I was driving the freeway and it

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was like me, I guess like late afternoon, early evening, right,

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and at this point I think I was it was

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probably right around thirty one, maybe maybe a little under that,

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but my eyesight was already starting to go. So my

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eyesight isn't the best anymore, but they like so I

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saw something at the corner of my eye I was

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as I was driving. It was a good distance in

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front of me, off to the side, on the brim

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of the road, and like my heart started racing because

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like in my mind it all clicked. I knew what

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this thing was, uh, And I was darned for certain

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that this was a big foot. But of course, as

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I drove closer was able to focus. You know, my

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eyesight actually was like, oh hey, I think this is

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getting closer, we can now see what it is. It

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ended up just being like a little pine tree, you know,

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a good several foot tall of pine tree. But the

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way that the shadows played tricks on you in there,

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like in that area, it's kind of crazy because you

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and I'm not saying that necessarily it's the shadows of

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itself doing it. It might have just been my mind trying

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to make sense of what I was seeing. And of course,

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since I'm always so versed in our podcast, like my

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mind is always going to this paragormal aspect of stuff,

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right that what is this? What could this be?

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I mean same here with as many quote unquote UFOs

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that I can see.

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Right, But like you know, with that said, though, like

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whether the sun is up it means sky, you know,

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it's rising or setting whatever.

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The mountains kind of play tricks on light refraction, especially

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when it's stormy weather there's a clouds or fog, so

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sometimes it'll you know, create a shadow and distort an

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image just slightly to make it look as if in

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this case, it was like a bipedal creature walking. But again,

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as I've gotten close to it, I noticed it was

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just a tree, but it was for me, it was

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a step closer to a realization of a creature that

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may actually exist. But again, like as I said earlier

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to this day, I can't I can't pinpoint whether or

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not I believe in the Bigfoot specifically.

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Right, Yeah. Well, and there's so many different theories out

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there now, Yeah, it's hard to believe any of them.

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Or is it a mixture of all of it? Yeah,

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it's weird. And that's part of the reason I think

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we got kind of burnt out with parature radio is

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everybody wants to throw these different theories out there, but

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nobody can pinpoint what the actual one is. All right.

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So the wan.

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Pescat this is a cryptid from uh Or that is

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described as a large cat like creature with a variety

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of physical characteristic characteristics, including those of a mountain lion

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or a cougar, so essentially a big black cat. Its

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existence is largely linked to the Cherokee in Appalachian regions,

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with some believing it to be a guardians hear it

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or the embodiment of a cursed woman because there are

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tales of it walking on its hime legs.

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Well, and there has been some belief over the years

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that this swampus cat was something of an exotic creature

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in this case, you know, like a black panther who

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was brought over to a certain area in the States

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early on and it somehow got out and survived for

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a long time, or some sort of black cougar which

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is relatively rare, or black mountain lyon for that matter.

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There are a lot of various ideas or beliefs behind

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what the wampus cat is, and I think the majority

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of people do believe it to be an actual animal,

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whether or not it's like a mistaken identity or just

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people don't know what it is. Maybe it's a creature

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that we have not yet discovered officially because we've not

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been able to capture good photo or video evidence of it.

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Although I will tell you if you look at the

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Wampus cat photos and videos, you will find good number

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of both trailcam photos, digital photos or phone photos from people.

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And also there is a couple of interesting videos out

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as well on the wampuscat which is really intriguing and

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definitely does just look like a giant panther like creature,

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and my like creature, I mean just looks like a

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black panther.

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But yeah, so, well, look at how many cryptids there

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are that are basically creatures that we did know existed

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but were known to be extinct.

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Well, yeah, has me an tiger right, one hundred percent?

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And even to this day, you know, we we we

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just learned recently that there's yet another creature that was

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identified that was believed to be extinct and no longer is.

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You know, the region that the region of the Appalachian

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Mountains is very dense with forest. There's a lot of springs,

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a lot of rivers that run through most cities and

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whatnot are pretty distant from each other, you know, so

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there's there's not a lot of space for us. Let

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rephrase that, there is a whole lot of space for

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us to cover as human beings, whether by air or

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by foot or vehicle. By vehicle, you're only going through

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a certain portion of these mountains. By air, you're again

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kind of restricted to airspace that is legal airspace. And

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by foot you can only go so far with the

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right parameters and the right you know, food sources and

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things like that enough to sustain you for a certain

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amount of time. But the simple fact is many of

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these creatures, like the bigfoot, and in this case, the

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wampus cat. If the wampus cat is indeed just like

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a panther, sugar mountain lion, something like that, it's likely

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not going to sit around when it hears people coming

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towards it. It's instinct is going to be turned around

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and you know, run the way basically a hide. And

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especially if there's only one or just a few of them,

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they're less likely to approach civilized areas. So again, trying

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to find these creatures is very difficult, and so a

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lot of it is just based on a little bit

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of luck, and that's it. So you know, again, the

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videos in the photos that we do have online, though

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they're not always very clear, I think at least in

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terms of the wampus cat, we do decent evidence to

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support that it is indeed a cat of some sort.

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Specifically what type of cat it is, that's just up

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in the air, right, all right.

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The next one on my list is the Brown Mountain lights.

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I'm a serious phenomenon often described as bright moving lights

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seen from various vantage points on and around Brown Mountain

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in North Carolina. These lights are a popular topic of

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discos and have been linked to various explanations including Cherokee legends,

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ghost stories, and even UFO sightings, which if you guys

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don't know the Phoenix lights. This type of phenomenon is

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throughout the world, not just the Appalachia area. It's just

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these specific lights are specific to the Appalachian region. The

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next one is the Bell Witch, which is a famous

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folk legend centered on a haunting that allegedly occurred in

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northwest Robertson County, Tennessee between eighteen seventeen and eighteen twenty one.

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The story involves the Bell family, farmers along the Red

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River and a mysterious invisible spirit that terrorized them for

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several years. The spirit, known as the Bell Witch, was

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said to have the ability to speak, shape shift, and

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be in multiple locations at once.

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This is another one that's like very high up on

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the mysterious factor and one that a lot of paranormal

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enthusiasts investigators are often interested in checking into. There are

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a couple of shows out on Travel Channel that have

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shown investigations of the Bell Witch. Ghost Adventures is one

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of them. They did an episode on the Belwitch legend

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and they did an investigation in there and it was

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definitely pretty interesting, pretty creepy. But there is a ton

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of lore on the bell Witch, and it stems like,

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I mean again, from eighteen seventeen to eighteen twenty one,

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and then you imagine all the years after that, how

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the story has changed and transformed over time. Again, It's

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like that telephone thing. So this is one of those

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things where it's hard to pinpoint what is truth and

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what is fiction. But the bell Witch is nonetheless one

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of the scariest things within Appalatrian folklore, and one that

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many people do try those they are interested investigating. Many

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other will purposely try to remain from even talking much

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about the Belwitch or looking into it, in fear of

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the entity somehow manifesting itself.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, But was the blair Witch

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project based on the Belwitch?

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I have no idea.

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I know the Belwich story has been used in pop

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culture a lot, especially in movies. I want to say

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the blair Witch was based on that, but I can't

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remember all right. Last one for the cryptids or creatures

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is Mothman. Again, We've talked numerous times about the Mothman,

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but if you guys don't know what the Mothman is

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it's the creature that was cited in Point Pleasant, West Virginia.

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It's been cited numerous places. But it's a winged humanoid

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with glowing red red eyes, and a lot of times

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is a omen for bad things to happen.

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Yeah, that one is. I will say. There is plenty

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of supporting evidence for the Mothman. This is something that

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not only was investigated by a number of enthusiasts and

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nowadays pro investigators, but also by the FBI and by

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the police at the time. There are significantly interesting photo

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evidence of this creature. Whether or not it's true or

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they're fossifyed, I don't know, but I will tell you

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I had the opportunity. For those of you who haven't,

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and I'm sure somebody you listening have been here or

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maybe even live in the region. But in Point Pleasant

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there is a little museum for the Mothman, and I'm

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sure a lot of you have seen the photos of

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the stand, the steel mothman, the statue, and.

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I've seen the pictures of the way people putting the

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quarter in its butt crack.

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Yeah, it's a weird thing. But you know, if you

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were to take a moment, like if you ever get

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an opportunity to go to Point Pleasant and visit the museum.

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It is really cool. It's really interesting. It's it shares

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a lot of the original newspapers and articles that were

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published during the time of the Mothman sightings, as well

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as the individual cases that were opened up on the

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Mothman and how the police department went about trying to

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investigate it, as well as like of course pop culture,

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pop culture references in which, you know, various movies or

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TV shows were inspired by the Mothman legend. And it

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is really really really kind of both cool, but also

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on settling standing you know, either where the original bridge

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was or just to the outs, you know, just to

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the left right of the original bridges, thinking about what

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happened all those years ago and how many people lost

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their lives during this mysterious event in history.

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Yeah, and this is one that I think I have

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always thought, is there's some truth to the moth Man,

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I mean what it is. Yeah, you know, you can't

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really tell. And I mean there's people that even claim

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that extraterrestrial nature trying to warn us of bad things

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so that we can prevent them.

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But people say that there was it was extraterrestrial in

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this case aliens. Someone see it was an angelic being

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that was there to try to warn people. Some say

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it was an alonic entity that was there to cause destruction.

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There are so many different beliefs and ideas behind the

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moth Man and what it is or was, And of

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course there have been sightings after the original point pleasant incident,

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and there are occasionally still setting today. Supposedly, I've not

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seen any significant evidence prove that today, but nonetheless there

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are plenty of stories that seem to suggest that it

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does happen to show up here and there. And we

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also see throughout the rest of the States and the

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world that there have been incidents where this Mothman seemingly

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has shown up again prior to some pretty nasty disasters.

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Now we've talked about these creatures and it is a

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part of Appalachian or Appalachian folklore, but their folklore permeates

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their daily life so much more, going into various traditions

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like food, music, there, storytelling like we mentioned, and even

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community rituals. These traditions are deeply rooted in the region's

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natural environment and history, influencing everything from cultural I'm sorry,

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culinary practices to artistic expressions. I think the first and

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foremost the food and drink in that the Apple Latchin

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region is like we've been talking about. The folklore and

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everything else in this region is so unique because it

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incorporates forged foods, homegrown produce, and even wild game. Corn

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beans and meat are staples with recipes passed down through generations.

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I think as of late we as in me and

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my wife have been doing a lot of like Southern beans,

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especially the red beans and rice from New Orleans. I

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love that recipe. But you know, even core bread, biscuits,

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and gravy. Soul food basically is what comes up for

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this and stews are common appalation dishes. Plant lore also

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influences food ways, with some plants traditionally used for medical

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purposes or considered good luck, much like in witchcraft music.

469
00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:26.000
Their folklore or folk traditions permeates through their music, including

470
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:30.319
old time music, bluegrass, and country. The banjo, fiddle, and

471
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:34.519
guitar are key instruments often used to accompany traditional ballads

472
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:38.720
and songs that tell stories of love, loss, and everyday life.

473
00:31:39.519 --> 00:31:43.839
Appalation music also reflects the region's history and cultural influences.

474
00:31:43.839 --> 00:31:48.319
With elements of Native American, African, and even European music traditions.

475
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:51.759
I will say this, I've never heard a song about

476
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:52.799
the Mothman.

477
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:57.000
Or Bigfoot though now yet not yet.

478
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:03.640
You know, the story telling aspect, we've all already kind

479
00:32:03.640 --> 00:32:07.720
of covered all of that, but it all the folklore

480
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:16.319
and all the past down traditions of oral storytelling is

481
00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:23.519
super important in the Appalachian area. And then community rituals,

482
00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:26.400
which this one fascinated me because I'm not a huge

483
00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:29.319
I don't have a huge knowledge of that region for

484
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:33.640
community rituals, but community gatherings and rituals are important parts

485
00:32:33.720 --> 00:32:39.480
of Appalachian culture, often centered around faith, family, and celebrations.

486
00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:45.720
Church services, barn raisings, and festivals provide opportunities for people

487
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:49.839
to come together, share stories, and celebrate their shared heritage.

488
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:54.480
These rituals help to strengthen community bonds and reinforce cultural

489
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:59.839
values even to this day.

490
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:04.000
Well on top of that, another thing that is relatively

491
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:08.680
popular in Appalachian culture and many cultures around the world

492
00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:13.119
for that matter, is the use of charms and amulets

493
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:19.160
and spells, which are often used as apotropic bit the baka.

494
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:22.000
You know, I studied this word earlier today, because like

495
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:23.359
I'm gonna, I know, I'm going to be the one

496
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:24.799
to have to say this word for some reason, for

497
00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:26.359
some reason, I feel like I want to say this word.

498
00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:28.599
You're tapping into the ether, buddy, dude.

499
00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:36.920
Apotropaic practices, Yeah, say that three times fast, uh, basically

500
00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:39.480
meaning that they are intended to ward off evil and

501
00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:42.920
protect loved ones from harm. I'm sure many of our

502
00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:46.799
listeners probably have some sort of have been influenced in

503
00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:49.720
some way or another to kind of use ambulates or

504
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:52.680
charms or are very you know, if anything like us,

505
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:55.480
we're listening to a paranorl podcast, you're likely superstitious to

506
00:33:55.519 --> 00:33:59.880
some extent. Many of our New Orleans listeners probably are

507
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:03.319
vibe pretty well with this, i'd imagine. I know there

508
00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:05.279
is quite a few here in Cleveland. Cleveland is a

509
00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:06.680
very superstitious.

510
00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:10.760
City Ohio as a whole, I think. Because for sure,

511
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:12.400
so you.

512
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:17.920
Know, wherever you're tuning in from, we would love to

513
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:21.079
hear from you. What are some elements that that you

514
00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:25.440
tend to gravitate to you in terms of superstition, Like

515
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:28.000
when it comes to production, especially, do you use terms,

516
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:31.400
do you have an amulet? Do you have anything outside

517
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:34.239
your door, you know, here in Ohio there when I'm

518
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:38.039
not working on film productions, I'm usually doing delivery services

519
00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:40.559
like grocery and whatnot. And I will tell you the

520
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:42.760
amount of homes that have come across with a broom

521
00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:45.840
that is hanging above or on the side of a door,

522
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:48.960
or a home that has food dogs at the base

523
00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:52.239
of their stairs or protect it from negative energies and

524
00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:56.119
evil spirits is just wild to me. It's not something

525
00:34:56.159 --> 00:34:58.000
that I think a lot of people really consider. That's

526
00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:02.360
kind of a slaveh the hidden jam or aspect to

527
00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:04.920
the Cleveland area that I think a lot of tourists

528
00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:09.159
don't know. And I've always kind of known that there

529
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:12.920
has been a great superstition here in in this my

530
00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:16.800
particular city, and we even have I've shared this once

531
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:21.639
upon a time, specific vampire bars that exist underground here

532
00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:24.519
in Cleveland as well. So there is a lot of interesting,

533
00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:29.960
somewhat darker aspects to what is the quote unquote the land,

534
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:33.199
not to mention the number of great hauntings and cemeteries

535
00:35:33.239 --> 00:35:38.039
that are supposedly haunted as well. Now, with that said,

536
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:42.440
these practices in the Appalachian culture are often you rooted

537
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:48.119
in a unique blend of Christian beliefs folk magic, basically

538
00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:50.920
creating a system that provides meaning and empowerment and a

539
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:55.320
challenging world. Right, So, amulets. I'm sure we all know,

540
00:35:55.480 --> 00:35:58.400
most of us at least what an amulet is. It's

541
00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:01.400
typically worn around the now in a pocket or hung

542
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:04.599
above a doorway, and ambulets are really believed to connect

543
00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:09.000
individuals to themselves, either to each other, to the elements,

544
00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:11.960
and even to the divine. Some will even use it

545
00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:14.079
as a kind of a grounding nature. For me, for

546
00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:18.039
a long time, I was wearing a black obsidian wolf

547
00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:22.360
pendant or amulet. That's something that I really gravitated to.

548
00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:29.320
It's kind of syncd with with like fire, you know.

549
00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:32.039
It's basically my birth element, my birth stones and all

550
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:35.679
that everything that has to do with what do you

551
00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:38.960
call it, my zodiac and whatnot. So I just seem

552
00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:43.880
to gravitate toward black obsidian. It's an element that is

553
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:49.280
believed to absorb negative energy as opposed to redirect it.

554
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:52.280
It just absorbs it. So you often have to clean

555
00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:57.960
or cleanse black obsidian on the regular because it can

556
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:00.239
if you believe it does what it's supposed to do.

557
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:05.039
Then it can't get a little filthy energy wise, so

558
00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:06.960
you have to That's something you have to consider with

559
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:10.519
a lot of amulets. And the nice thing about ambulets though,

560
00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:14.079
is it often is dependent on the wearer or the

561
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:17.440
person who's using it. So, however you decide you want

562
00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:20.039
to manifest this amulet, whatever you want it to do.

563
00:37:20.559 --> 00:37:26.440
Typically the idea is that you embed your belief system

564
00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:30.599
into the emirate itself, in this case empowering it. And there,

565
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:32.519
of course are a number of different ways that you

566
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:35.519
can do this, which I'm not gonna get too far

567
00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:38.880
deep into, but it's an easy Google search. There's so

568
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:44.440
many ways to do it, really. Yeah. Another one is

569
00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:47.880
whitch bottles. You know. These are bottles containing various objects

570
00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:52.760
like pins or needles, typically believe to deflect curses and evil.

571
00:37:53.039 --> 00:37:55.480
You know a lot of people, unfortunately, who aren't really

572
00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:57.920
educated in the idea of the witch bottle. They come

573
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:00.559
across them in old homes and they think that it

574
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:03.360
was placed as a curse on the family, but it's

575
00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:07.760
actually the opposite. Most witch bottles are created to protect

576
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:10.719
the family, you know, and a lot of this comes

577
00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:19.519
from Southern roots. Voodoo, whodoo, West African cultural beliefs. So

578
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:23.440
you know, this kind of stems from an old world

579
00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:26.400
and you may not know, but there have been a

580
00:38:26.480 --> 00:38:30.119
number of old homes, especially throughout the abolition in the South,

581
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:34.880
where there is like a mummified cat and rat or

582
00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:38.639
mouse embedded into a wall, which is kind of crazy,

583
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:40.519
but there was a belief system that if you were

584
00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:44.559
to put a cat, hand of mouse into the walls,

585
00:38:44.679 --> 00:38:50.800
it was kind of this symbolic representation of any rodents,

586
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:55.760
any creatures from coming in. It was a preventive measure,

587
00:38:55.960 --> 00:38:59.880
you know, one of those my belief superstitions and this

588
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:03.119
you know, you know, it's kind of gross to put

589
00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:06.920
a poor dead cat into your wall. You know, most

590
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:10.159
people who do that typically eventually start to put dead

591
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:12.320
people in their walls, and those are called serial killers,

592
00:39:12.360 --> 00:39:14.119
and it is illegal in the United States.

593
00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:16.920
And we just talked about that on the episode we

594
00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:19.320
did with the cat word.

595
00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:24.519
Yeah. Another one, of course, is charms in this again

596
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:28.920
kind of similar to amulets in a way, objects that crosses,

597
00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:34.719
horseshoes or other simpols are believed to have inherent protective powers.

598
00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:39.440
One of the most popular by far is the crucifix, right. Uh,

599
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:42.400
there are people both Christian and non Christian who wear

600
00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:46.000
the crucifix in simple belief that it is in itself

601
00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:50.199
a very powerful charm to protect a person from any

602
00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:55.920
number of elements. And there are plenty of others, you know,

603
00:39:56.039 --> 00:40:00.519
charms too, you know, like the horseshoe is very popular

604
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:05.239
for good luck, the what is the Italian horn? Who

605
00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:07.199
that was called? It was supposed to name too.

606
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:13.039
I think came, uh, yeah, I know what you're talking about.

607
00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:19.039
That's supposed to represent fertility. But I mean even look

608
00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:22.440
at the evil eye. A lot of people believed that

609
00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:27.079
having an evil eye pendant was to curse somebody. It's

610
00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:30.440
actually to protect you against the evil evil eye from

611
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:31.119
somebody else.

612
00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:35.880
Absolutely. And then what are the last things that is

613
00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:39.519
often used, uh for some people anyway is spells.

614
00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:39.840
Now.

615
00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:43.199
Spells can be a little controversial for some individuals, but

616
00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:46.800
they're often recited or performed to invoke protection or world

617
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:51.320
of evil, and sometimes even incorporate Christian elements, as we

618
00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:55.840
see in our some of our New Orlean voodoo practices

619
00:40:55.840 --> 00:40:59.559
in which Christian elements are involved in some of the

620
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:04.159
the of voodoo spells that are cast. But I will

621
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:06.880
go a little bit on spells because I think spells

622
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:09.599
kind of leaves this as an example of like a

623
00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:11.920
type of witchcraft. But I'm also going to add prayer

624
00:41:11.960 --> 00:41:17.280
here too, because prayers are also not a I wouldn't

625
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:22.639
say an extension or a a what do you call it.

626
00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:29.239
I wouldn't consider a prayer a spell, but I think

627
00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:32.000
there are some people who might in some way, because

628
00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:35.679
some spells that are conducted are very much done so

629
00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:40.000
in a prayer type way, often reciting a certain verse

630
00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:43.280
and then trying to manifest that or believe in that,

631
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:46.559
which is kind of similar in some ways to prayer

632
00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:49.239
in which you're reseting a certain verse or believer or

633
00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:52.840
it's an idea that you are hoping that God will

634
00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:56.079
bring to you, or any other entity that you might

635
00:41:56.119 --> 00:42:00.320
be praying to. I guess you do you, but you know, well,

636
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:00.960
be careful.

637
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:05.159
I think most people kind of incorporate that because it's

638
00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:11.119
a way to invoke your intent. Like a lot of

639
00:42:11.159 --> 00:42:16.719
people pray, but when they're doing that, they're praying for

640
00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:20.199
something specific and that has to do with intent, So

641
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:24.039
I think that's where that kind of comes from. It's

642
00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:38.360
a completely different reaction, I guess, but similar like you're saying, yeah, I.

643
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:41.800
Can feel myself losing my voice here. No, No, I

644
00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:44.000
am a little sick. I've been sick for a few days,

645
00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:45.320
so I'm trying to like fight through this.

646
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:48.000
All right. I can go through the last of those

647
00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:49.880
because we kind of have to wrap it up here

648
00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:57.280
shortly anyways. Folklore propoundly shapes a region's arts and craft

649
00:42:57.719 --> 00:43:03.639
traditions by serving as a rich source of inspiration, symbolism,

650
00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:08.559
and cultural identity. It influences the themes, techniques, and materials

651
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:13.519
used in artistic expressions, allowing communities to reflect their values, history,

652
00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:18.599
and beliefs through tangible and performative art. Folklore becomes a

653
00:43:18.760 --> 00:43:23.119
way to preserve cultural heritage, convey narratives, and reinforce a

654
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:27.760
sensitive a sense of belonging. You see this in any

655
00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:33.639
culture that uses folklore that it will be imbued in

656
00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:40.679
any type of art. Inspiration and symbolism. Folklore, with its stories, nests,

657
00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:45.639
and legends, provides a wealth of symbolic imagery and narrative

658
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:51.280
structures that artists draw upon. Artists may incorporate specific folk

659
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:56.880
tale characters, motifs, or events into their work, giving it

660
00:43:57.039 --> 00:44:01.719
a unique cultural significance. Same can be said about stories.

661
00:44:03.360 --> 00:44:08.800
Here comes one of my hell hounds. For example, a

662
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:14.280
folk tale about a courageous heroine might inspire a sculpture

663
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:21.480
or painting depicting a powerful female figure. It gives cultural

664
00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:25.599
identity and heritage to the region. Folklore acts as a

665
00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:29.880
tangible link to communities, a communities pass, allowing artists to

666
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:35.440
create works that reflect their ancestors, traditions, beliefs, and ways

667
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:39.239
of life. Art and craft become a way to celebrate

668
00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:43.400
and preserve unique regional identities, fostering a sense of pride

669
00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:48.800
and belonging within the community. For instance, a traditional weaving

670
00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:52.960
pattern might be adapted to create new textiles, carrying on

671
00:44:53.000 --> 00:45:00.360
the legacy of storytelling. In craftsmanship, techniques and materials, FOLKO

672
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:05.800
often dictates the use of specific materials and techniques that

673
00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:10.840
are associated with particular cultural practices. Such as, a folk

674
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:16.760
belief about the medicinal properties of certain plants might influence

675
00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:25.199
the selection of materials for a particular craft. Similarity, a

676
00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:30.000
traditional pottery technique might be passed down through generations, reflecting

677
00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:36.079
the expertise and knowledge accumulated over time. You kind of

678
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:43.559
see that in pottery. In Native American traditions, performance and ritual.

679
00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:48.840
Folklore can also shape performance in art rituals, where artistic

680
00:45:48.920 --> 00:45:53.199
expression is intertwined with storytelling, music, and dance. Again, you

681
00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:56.480
see this a lot in Native American culture, where they

682
00:45:57.079 --> 00:46:07.320
are dressing in their Native American garb. They dance to

683
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:20.400
to represent the different history historical events, and a folk

684
00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:25.400
dance may be performed during a harvest festival, combining artistic

685
00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:31.880
expression with a celebration of the community's agricultural traditions. These

686
00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:36.199
performances often involve costumes, props, and musical instruments that are

687
00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:41.239
rooted in the region's folklore and cultural practices. Eric had mentioned,

688
00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:44.199
you know New Orleans because that's one of the areas

689
00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:49.719
that we are broadcast, and I believe, don't They in

690
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:52.800
New Orleans have a certain Day of the Dead tradition.

691
00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:57.199
As far as I know, But I live in Cleveland.

692
00:46:57.199 --> 00:47:02.960
No, no, no, If you're listening in New Orleans, yeah,

693
00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:05.079
let us know. Put it in the comments wherever you're

694
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:09.960
at or on social media. Let us know. These performances

695
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:15.679
already run over that evolving traditions. While folklore provides a

696
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:22.840
foundation for our test expression, it's not it's not static. Sorry,

697
00:47:23.599 --> 00:47:27.079
it evolves and adapts over time, reflecting changes in the

698
00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:32.320
community and the world. Artists may incorporate contemporary themes and

699
00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:37.599
influences into their work while still honoring their cultural groups,

700
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:42.559
and this dynamic interplay between folklore and art allows for

701
00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:51.039
preservation of traditions while fostering creative innovation. So what are

702
00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:55.840
some of your final thoughts about the appellation folklore or

703
00:47:56.079 --> 00:47:57.119
folklore in general.

704
00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:03.079
I mean, well, folklore in general is just it's always

705
00:48:03.119 --> 00:48:08.280
intriguing when it's one of the things I study the most,

706
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:10.440
you know, I find folk wore would be so interesting

707
00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:13.280
because again, I do believe that the majority of folklore

708
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:18.639
that we have is based off of some sort of truth, right,

709
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and so understanding the folklore helps us to better learn

710
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the truth, and that means backtracking and seeing where the

711
00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:32.280
folklore originated and why it originated, but then how it

712
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manifested throughout time, and that allows us to have some

713
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sort of basis or understanding of something like the early

714
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:45.719
Appalachin belief system, especially when it comes to the folklore,

715
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:48.719
the urban legends and all the myths that surround it,

716
00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:50.960
and especially when we're thinking of like ghosts and these

717
00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:56.239
cryptids that seem to exist within the Mountain Range. As

718
00:48:56.239 --> 00:48:58.239
for the Appalachians, I mean, I will tell you again,

719
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for someone who has spent many, many years within the

720
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Appalachian Mountains, either hiking through them or driving through them

721
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:13.559
day night, midday, whatever, there is some certain element to it.

722
00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:18.400
It's almost as if the Appalachian Mountains have a spirit

723
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of their own. It's like they're a living, breathing entity.

724
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And of course, I, at least to some extent, I

725
00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:28.199
believe this in general, just based on my Christian faith.

726
00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:31.880
I believe God spirit hovers in everything and exists in everything.

727
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:37.440
But I think there's something else within the Mountain Range

728
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:42.960
as well, almost like there is another sort of supernatural

729
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:48.039
entity that helps influence a lot of these mynths. It

730
00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:50.800
is again, you know, you can sit in the middle

731
00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:54.239
bit and there's almost a heartbeat, and it's kind of

732
00:49:54.920 --> 00:49:57.440
it's a calming but also a little kind of creepy.

733
00:49:58.119 --> 00:50:00.800
You know, that's not something you get like you have

734
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:03.360
to say, I do believe like anywhere you live there's

735
00:50:03.360 --> 00:50:09.679
probably a heartbeat to your city, you know. I think

736
00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:12.159
like you think New York City, you think something like

737
00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:16.480
Los Angeles. Even if we go away to your neck

738
00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:19.079
of the woods, Bizmarck. You know, you can pinpoint the

739
00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:24.000
one thing that is often most regulated, and that's where

740
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:25.960
the heartbeat exists. You know, whether that be traffic, whether

741
00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:31.360
that be the people, whether that be airlines, et cetera.

742
00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:34.840
There's always something or maybe just the atmosphere and in itself.

743
00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:37.320
And with that said, I do think the Appalachian Mountains

744
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:41.639
do have its own heartbeat, and that is really kind

745
00:50:41.639 --> 00:50:43.719
of cool, really intriguing, and it's what constantly I think

746
00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:47.840
draws people to the Mountain Range as it makes it

747
00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:51.320
a prime destination for people who are interested in exploring

748
00:50:51.679 --> 00:50:56.400
and a very old part of the Americas, but also

749
00:50:56.480 --> 00:51:01.039
those who are very interested in the folklore and the

750
00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:05.320
the ghost stories that are much, very much ingrained into

751
00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:05.960
its history.

752
00:51:08.679 --> 00:51:13.320
Yeah, I feel that it folklore was originally started to

753
00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:21.320
kind of convey urgency and awareness of things that you

754
00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:24.320
can't explain. So I think that it's very important to

755
00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:28.639
continue on those traditions, even in this today and age

756
00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:33.400
where you can find information at the drop of a hat,

757
00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:39.880
but definitely keep those vocal traditions alive because it's one

758
00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:43.039
of those things that you don't want to lose. That

759
00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:48.159
that's especially say, we had this huge catastrophic thing happen,

760
00:51:48.559 --> 00:51:53.239
and we no longer have the Internet or cell phones

761
00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:55.719
or any of this stuff. We have to pass that

762
00:51:55.760 --> 00:52:00.840
information on somehow. I do want to encourage you all

763
00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:04.159
to tell us what you all think, because the information

764
00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:09.320
that we find is typically just researching the web and

765
00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:13.480
finding stuff. I mean, some of it we've experienced as well.

766
00:52:13.559 --> 00:52:18.960
So tell us your thoughts, folklore, some of the cryptos

767
00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:22.639
we talked about. Whatever, put in the comments, email us,

768
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:26.599
put it on social media. Whatever we would love to

769
00:52:26.639 --> 00:52:31.559
hear from y'all. I do have to make sure that

770
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we let you know that we will be on as

771
00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:40.119
the airing of this episode. We will be on Third

772
00:52:40.119 --> 00:52:44.079
Eye Live Show on Wednesday, May seventh at a pm

773
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Eastern time. We will definitely get you guys a link

774
00:52:47.400 --> 00:52:49.880
as soon as we have it to get on and

775
00:52:50.239 --> 00:52:56.519
get into Brian Bon's chat and just interact with us.

776
00:52:57.280 --> 00:53:01.519
And then we've got Richard Steup next week for the

777
00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:09.679
Horror Horrors of Fox, What does It Hollow Farms? And

778
00:53:09.719 --> 00:53:15.559
then the week of the There The following week, sorry

779
00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:18.280
is Chris Carter to talk about his book The Case

780
00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:20.840
for the Afterlife. So a lot of great guests coming

781
00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:26.760
up a lot of great guests appearances by us on

782
00:53:26.840 --> 00:53:33.440
different shows, So if you're not, make sure you like, share, subscribe, follow,

783
00:53:33.599 --> 00:53:36.519
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784
00:53:36.599 --> 00:53:40.320
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785
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walked away from x and LinkedIn, but i might have

786
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:49.519
to incorporate us back into those. I'm not sure yet.

787
00:53:49.719 --> 00:53:51.079
Anything else you can think of?

788
00:53:53.159 --> 00:53:54.599
No, okay.

789
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Again, This was a peer record show on one of

790
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791
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Make sure you check out all the great shows we

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have on United Public Radio Network until next week, where

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you will find us, same time, same channel. My name

794
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