Oct. 26, 2025

The Dark Origins Of Halloween

The Dark Origins Of Halloween
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🎃 Halloween isn’t just about candy and costumes — it has dark, ancient origins. In this episode of ParaTruth: Reborn, Justin and Erik explore how Samhain, All Hallows’ Eve, and old-world superstitions shaped the holiday we celebrate today. From pagan fire rituals to the Christian church’s influence, from fears of spirits to the rise of trick-or-treating — we peel back the layers of history to reveal the true story of Halloween.

👉 Do you think Halloween still carries supernatural power today?

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Welcome we go, well do parrot truth Truth? What's up everybody,

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and welcome to Paratruth Reborn. My name is Eric and

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I'm justin. This is our official Halloween episode. So I

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hope you guys are as excited as we are, because,

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as you know, we love Halloween and I'm sure you

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all do too, so we hope you enjoy it as

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much as we do. Make sure you grab a snack,

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your favorite drink and let's dig in. Let's chat a

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little bit about Halloween, shall we. So Halloween is one

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of the most popular holidays around the world, there's really

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no question about that. Maybe second honestly only to Christmas,

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But do you know it's dark origins. Today we will

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be discussing Sowyn at Gaelic festival, the influence of the

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Church on the holiday, medieval superstitions, and why we trick

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or treat.

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Now we're starting with ancient Sooyn because that's really where

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it originates from. We've discussed sooen in the past, but

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what better way to understand part of the reason we

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celebrate Halloween that exploring some of its roots in the

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sawn celebration.

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Right, So, what is soewen exactly. Well, it's a Gaelic

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festival on November one, marking the end of the harvest

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season and the beginning of winter, or the quote unquote

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darker half of the year. You even know what I'm meaning.

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Call it the dark times?

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Anyway, I do call it the dark times, and not

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even for this reason. This It is also the Irish

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and Scottish Gaelic name for November, something I didn't know Nashally. So,

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celebrations begin on the evening of October thirty first, and

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since the Gaelic day began, it ended at sunset. Now

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soo Yen is believed to have Celtic pagan origins, and

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some of the Oolithic passage tombs in Great Britain and

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Ireland are alleged with the sunrise at the time of

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Sowen as a festival for communing with the ancestors. However,

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it may predate the Celtic area. A number of stone

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circles and dolmens, including for example, a bury exhibit a

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west south less alignment and the asimouth angle of the

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setting sun on October thirty first.

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Now, it's believed that the veil between this reality and

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the afterlife is at its thinnest during this time of year.

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Some of the traditions that were practiced during the festival

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were lighting bonfires, ritualistic sacrifice, and even wearing disguises toward

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off spirits. The Jruis played a key role in Sellen

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rituals by serving as spiritual leaders who guided community ceremonies,

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led bonfire lighting and fire transfer traditions, and practiced divination

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to foresee the coming year. They helped protect the community

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from spirits by performing cleansing rights, blessed people, cattle and land,

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and ensure the community remained connected to the other world

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controlled manner, which is, I feel we need a little

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more controlled manner in this day and age. But we'll

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get there. Right.

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So, what happens after years and years of celebrating Saohen,

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but then suddenly another religion pops up. Well, the religion

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changes things, right, So the Catholic Church decided to repurpose

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the Celtic festival as Saouen by establishing All Saints' Day

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on November first to honor saints and the evening before

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Al Halasive later known as Hawawean, of course, as a

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time to remember the dead and prepare for the feast

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day now. The shift aimed to christianize the existing practices,

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incorporating some of the supernatural symbolism and rituals of Saowen,

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such as warding off spirits and the belief in a

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thinning veale between worlds, and transforming them into a separate

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Christian Christian focused celebration. This, of course also made it

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easier for new Christian converts who would previously practice a

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Sowin tradition and find a similar practice among the new faith.

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And this is something that Christians actually did quite often.

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Every time they brought the Christian belief and scriptures to

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a new land. It would learn what those what the

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practices were, what the beliefs were, and they'd start to

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adapt them into the Christian faith and make it easier

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for those transitions. Saint Patrick did something very different, very

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similar up in Ireland.

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Yeah. Well, and that's any dominating culture throughout history that

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the conqueror would just pull in parts of the other

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cultures belief. Maybe some of it was because they believed

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that too, but it was mostly to pull in, uh,

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those practitioners of that old religion into the new religion.

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In many cases, the deities of conquered or neighboring religions

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were categorized as demons, even though transforming benevolent or neutral

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spirits into malicious figures. For example, the Christian devil is

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often depicted with horns and hoofs, imagery borrowed from pagan

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horned deities. But you see this throughout history. Like I said,

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in fact, every civilization would bring their own beliefs. So

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it's one of those things that although it's it's demonized,

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and especially the Christian belief it's happened before. It's not

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like we're we're creating recreating the wheel. This happens time

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and time again. Now I know your beliefs have changed

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or the years, how are you now compared to when

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you first came back to Christianity.

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Do you.

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Feel more tolerant towards a lot of the things that

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like Halloween, Christmas, the stuff that we brought in from

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pagan religions.

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Yeah, I mean I'm definitely more tolerant of it. You know,

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obviously I wasn't in the beginning, as you shared those

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stories here before. But yeah, most definitely most tolerant and

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some of the things I even practice myself lighting bonfires

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for example, on Halloween is a great and fun tradition

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for myself. You know, when I think of lighting the

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bonfire has nothing worthy to do with the holiday itself.

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It's just I get to enjoy it. But there are

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plenty of Christians out there also who not only refrain from,

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you know, lighting bonfires, they refrain from the holiday altogether.

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But even still, there are plenty of churches, at least

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that I know of in America that will do this

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thing called trunk or treat, And typically it takes place

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earlier on Halloween, like morning or afternoon, or a week

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or two prior.

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Uh.

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And it's just a safe place for people. Anybody doesn't

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have meo Christians, anyone from around the city who wants

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to come trick or treat in the church parking a lot. Uh.

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They're people who are open and maybe hearing a little

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bit about Jesus. Maybe not thankfully the churchure that I know,

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the people that I know are.

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Not uh, you know, they're not.

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They're not. So I mean, part of me wants to

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say is disrespecting to like just you know, throw up

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Jesus on everybody.

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You know. I don't want somebody throwing up Jesus on me.

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If you can grow up an entire person, you are

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of the death.

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Well, but what I mean is it goes back to

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last week's episode. We were talking about having making sure that

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whoever you're talking to or trying to help, making sure

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that they consent right. And so typically, at least in

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my church circle, my circle friends, the people that I

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know through the church, they will always ask first non believers,

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if hey, can I tell you a little bit about Jesus?

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Can I pray for you?

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Can I do this? Can I do that?

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And you know, some people say no, and it is

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very like I respect that on with their day, enjoy

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trump or treat it as much candy as you guys,

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can you know, like have fun mingle, etcetera, etcetera, Which

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is how it should be, regardless of the religion or

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the belief right. But yeah, so it definitely I obviously

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participate in dressing up. It's something I enjoy doing. It's

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part of tradition as well. I don't trick or treat

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anymore myself, but I just stealed a candy from my

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nieces to trick or treat instead. So there's problem. There's

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probably some moral compass there that needs to be redirected

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a bit.

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But you know, I feel you're a horrible human fearing Wow. No,

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they should probably not be consuming all of that sugar.

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So it's probably a courtesy for you to do that

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for your sister so that our kids aren't. The way

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I see is I'm putting my life on the line

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because that much sugar it starts to take years away.

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They're saying, yeah, it deteriorates the teeth, and you know,

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like gotta gotta sacrifice with him. So so here about sacrifice.

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Now, okay, see, and this is how you twist words

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and cause issues. Okay, don't do what Jessin just did.

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It's called division.

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I'm just making an example. That's all.

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Well, now there, Well on what about you?

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I mean, well, I mean since my thoughts followed more on.

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You know, I've followed Christianity, but I feel a lot

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of the any major religion does have it all right.

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So I don't see it being a bad thing that

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there were horns and hoved gods in pagan folklore and mythology.

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But I do see where it was kind of incorporated

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into the Christian faith, making that evil again as a

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way to bring people into Christianity and say, look what

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you were doing was bad. This is the actual way.

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But yeah, and I was just gonna mention too, trunk

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or treat might be a little bit of a safer

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way to trigger treat in this day and age. I mean,

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you're going to find those weird psychos no matter what

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you're doing in today's day and age. But at least

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there it's a community that it's all close, even more

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close than walking down the street. So I feel, yeah,

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trunker treat is, although it's more a Christian practiced way

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to enjoy Halloween. It's you don't want to trust your

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kids going up to anybody's store because you may not

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these days.

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Yeah, it ain't like when we were growing up. Now.

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I was just talking to a friend of mine how

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different things are since, you know, the nineties compared to

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twenty twenty five, and it's like back then, you know,

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you and I we're outside all the time, we're doing

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some we're playing, we're in the dirt, you know, and

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now it's just like online you can meet anybody and

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I play I mean some of you know, I play Fortnite,

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and there are some weird people that I meet that.

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I just like net or hang you know, delete and

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block type things. It's like, it's weird, man, It's cool, dude.

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That's why I don't play online games because I don't

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care what people have to say.

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I just want to play the kid, right. I mean,

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if you're trying to participate together, like build stuff together

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and be respectful, that's one thing. But a lot of

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people use it as a way to disrespect people and

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be crappy, right for sure.

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So let's go ahead. We'll move on a little bit

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with this discussion here though. So next up is medieval superstition. Now,

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the rise of ghost stories and which lore in medieval

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culture was profoundly shaped by the Catholic Church's evolving doctrines

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on the afterlife and demonic forces. And while folklore and

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magic existed for centuries, the Late Middle Ages saw the

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condition or i'm sorry, the codification of these beliefs into

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a formalized Christian framework that helped trigger the widespread witch

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hunts of the early Modern period.

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Now, early medieval ghost beliefs were complex and varied, not

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that they're not today, but initially the Church was hesitant

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to endorse the idea of ghosts fearing it encouraged pagan

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veneration of the dead. Some early Christian thinkers considered all

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apparitions to be demons in disguise, intent on deceiving the faithful. However,

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as belief in ghosts or revenance persisted, the church integrated

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these folk beliefs into its own theology. And we've had

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an episode on this before. In the past. It was

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actually a UK English tradition to tell ghost stories during

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Christmas even right.

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You know, something else I just want to put out

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there is kind of like a fact check, if you will.

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There is nothing in the scripture that says ghosts and

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demons are one and the same. Now, I'm not going

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to sit here and say that there's a clear, you know,

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divide between the two either. However, we can take some

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references from scripture at least one or two and suggest

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that ghosts and demons are two very different entities and

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that both exists. Whether or not exosts can exist on

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this plane, you know, obviously we have some sort of proof. Right,

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all of us who have been in the paranormal community,

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we've done paranormal research, investigations. You probably have found something

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cast some sort of evidence but again that is something

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that can be scientifically replicated in most cases. Therefore, we

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can't say proof it's a ghost.

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Right, It's all I mean, same thing that we like,

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we talked about a couple of weeks ago, the rapture.

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There's no specific verbiage in the Bible that says we're

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going to be taken up into the heavens that they

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call it rapture. There's just one specific text that people

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take as that's the rapture, right, And.

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you know, I mean, obviously we don't know the when.

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Jesus is very clear on that.

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who's taken etcetera, etcetera. That's really what's held up in

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the air right now. But anyway, with that said, regarding ghosts,

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many of you know the story of Jesus walking on water.

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Whether you are Christian or not, you probably know the story.

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And so there is a part of the story where

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Jesus is walking out of water and Peter looks out

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and says, look, it's a ghost, and Jesus does not

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condemn him. He does not say ghosts are not real.

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He doesn't say, no, you're thinking demons and I'm not one.

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He just says, basically, you look, I am not a ghost.

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It is me Jesus. And that's the end of it,

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which means that Jesus very clearly, I think, believed or

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knows that ghosts do exist to some extent, and the

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fact that Peter had thought he was a ghost, I

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wasn't condemned for it could theoretically kind of give us

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purpose to believe that ghosts do exist and they are

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separate from demons.

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So it's there's a whole lot that was into theology

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behind ghosts, spirits, demons, entities, et cetera. And that's something

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we've talked a little bit a few weeks back about it,

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but that can go very much deeper into a whole

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new episode. But anyway, I just wanted to throw that

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out there because there are plenty people who think that

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all spirits are the monic spirits unless they're from heaven,

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or all ghosts or demons that are just portraying humanity

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in spirit form and trying to pretend to be something

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they're not in deceiving people. And I was one who

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thought that for a while, I tell us start learning

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more about theology and understanding the Word of godmore.

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times for you growing not just in your faith but

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your understanding of the teachings that you follow and being

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more considerate of other people. He's getting all choked up, kay,

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is Like, I don't know he's got.

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Sometimes Like when we have when I take these like

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rabbit trails, I'm like, do I just jump right back

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into where we were left off? It's gonna be some

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sort of like clean transition, right, Like how do I

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But yeah, I don't have one, so we're just gonna

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break right off back into it. So when it comes

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to witchcraft, and you guys tuned in last week, you

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learned quite a bit about witch bottles and the idea

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behind witchcraft. But when it comes to medieval understanding of witchcraft,

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it too also shifted dramatically over time. For most of

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the Middle Ages, the churche guarded folk magic and sorcery

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as harmless, if nothing else but misguided superstition. A true

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threat was heresy, not magical practice, and the witch figure

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as we know it today, however, was largely invented in

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the late medieval period.

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Soul cakes were small spiced cakes baked and distributed by

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wealthier families to the poor during All Souls Day November

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twenty second, in exchange for November in exchange for prayers

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for the souls of the dead, representing an early form

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of trick or treating called souling. I mean soul cakes.

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Sowing makes sense, you're praying for the dead, for their souls.

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This practice evolved into guysing, which children would dress up

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and perform songs or poems for treats, leading to the

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modern trick or treat custom, which further developed from those

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traditions rooted in Britain and Ireland. I say, bring that back.

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Make these kids work for their candidat trick or treat, right.

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Glad If if it haven't, that is happening now and

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not during our time.

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We're out true treating. So we'll just pick it outside

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of everybody's home. Bring it back, bring guysing. And that's

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the thing.

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That's when when when Halloween goes political and kids are

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like an a doorstep.

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Make Halloween great again.

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Gess you just ruined our episode. No, so you know

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with that said, leading to you know, the idea that

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children would dress up and perform songs or poems retreats,

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leading to the modern treat custom. It eventually did give

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birth to modern Halloween, what we more or less know

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today now. Irish immigrants had brought the tradition of carving

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jack o lanterns from root vegetables like turn ups to

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America in the nineteenth century, but found pumpkins native to

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North America to be larger and more readily available. Of course,

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the easier to carve pumpkins quickly replaced turnips as the

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preferred choice, making the pumpkin the iconic symbol of Halloween

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jack o lanterns today. Now, the origin of carving jackal

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lanterns started to ward off evil spirits and were based

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on the Irish folk tale of Stingy Jack, who basically

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tricked the devil one too many times three in total

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to be exact. And instead of you know, taking Stingy

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Jack's soul into hell, and instead of God saying come

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on up to heaven because he was denied God denied

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and going to heaven, the devil gave him a turn

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up with the coal inside, so that Jack would wonder

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the Realms, the Veil basically for Eternity, Blown Cold, and Indefinitely.

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on Paratruth Radio. So if you want to hear the

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full full story of it, because we do read it

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on air, make sure you check out those episodes, just

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google Para Truth Radio or type it in. Just type

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in Paratruth you'll find both shows.

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Yeah, you can click on our website and in our

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switchbar just hit stingy back. You'll find it that way too.

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Yeah. And the interesting part is I had never heard

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of the story of Cindy Jack until we actually had

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done those episodes. I'm in practice, so I never question

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where did this come from?

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Right? I mean, but that was some of those episodes

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that we did. We're very early on as well, like

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in terms of our podcasting career, many of those. So

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we did like a lot of these episodes way back

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on Nice Talkers. Nice Talkers, that's all it was, right,

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What was the name?

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Yeah? Nice?

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Yeah, I wasn't as radio. Oh paredomal radio. Okay, son

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has been something my mind is start. That's how long

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it's been. Now You're like, wait, what is that? Nice what.

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But yeah, you know, back then, we're still learning a

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lot of this stuff. And I mean, we weren't learning

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a lot of this stuff strictly for the show, but yeah,

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you know. What I find very interesting though, is the

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Stingy Jack story in particular has always remained the same,

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but there have been very slight iterations of it throughout

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the last fifteen years or so, very minor changes, but

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changes noneth the last And of course we see that

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with most stories when it comes to the the mythical

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and the magical in particular.

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And if you want to see a kind of continuation

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of the story of Cindy Jack, I wrote one that

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I'm going to be putting into a short story collection

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of my own. I'll let you guys know when that's out,

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because I thought it was a really, really interesting one

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where Cinji Jack actually tricks somebody else to take on

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the curse. And I loved that story. But back to

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what we're talking about here now. Mischief Night, or you

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may also know it is Devil's Night, which was first

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documented in the nineteen thirties, is a night of pranks

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before Halloween, evolving from harmless fun to serious vandalism. In

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some areas, but also prompting community programs like Angels Night,

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modern Halloween traditions, including elaborate trick or treating, costume parties

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with themes and contests, spooky decorations, and themed events at

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museums and clubs. One thing I remember growing up is again,

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I had never heard of Devil's Night until I saw

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the movie The Crow and the game. We're practicing Devil's

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Knight too cosmehem and destruction in the movie. But I

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had never heard the word Devil's Night until I watched

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that movie.

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Right, I feel like, you know, like bish If Knight

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and Devil's Knight. I mean, it makes sense even to

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this day, there's a lot of mischief righty toilet papering

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people's properties, smashing pumpkins, et cetera, et cetera. I will

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say that I am. I don't mind it so much

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that there have been some community programs that tried to

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revamp it to Angel's Knight and do something kind. You know,

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I would prefer to see that rather than what it

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feels like it's going toward here in America, which is

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Perge Night. So hopefully we don't see that. Yeah, you know,

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spooky decorations and themed events at museums. Obviously, there's plenty

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that still happening today. There's a show that I watch

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every year called Halloween Wars. I love watching that show

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every Halloween. All the houses, well most houses tend I

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met a lot of houses decorate for Halloween, exterior and interier.

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But I will say that it seems to be dying breathe.

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It's not as extravagant as it was when we were

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kids growing up. You know, the streets were filled with

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people sugar treating. Every house had lights and decorations and

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scary events. Nowadays, ago out on Halloween night and it's silent.

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You see a handful of children walking, and that's about it,

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at least in my area in Cleveland in particular.

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Oh here, I mean here too, And it kind of

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is almost reminiscent of the dark days of Halloween. So

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it is a little scary, definitely.

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Now in the twentieth century, something crazy happened, right. It's

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probably the most important part of Halloween nowadays for any

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child and myself who's also a child. But that is

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that the candy companies capitalized on Halloween's rising popularity by

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aggressively marketing individually wrapped, mass produced sweets as a convenient

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and safe option for trick or treating. It was a

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post World War two economic boom. The lifting of sugar

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rationing and public fears over tampered treats cemented candy's central

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role in the holiday. Before the nineteen fifties, trick or

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treaters typically received homemade items such as cakes, cookies, fruit,

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or nuts. And it's not the first time that we

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see candy companies or just companies in general, capitalizing on holidays. Right.

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We see the same thing on Christmas with coke and

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the drink, not the drug. I thought the drug was

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in the drink some But I don't know what's wrong

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with me. I'm sorry, I don't know. These things popping

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on my mind and I just speak them. I shouldn't

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get us booted. But then also Valentine's Day is a

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very big commercial holiday for some lame reason.

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Well, and I love how it says a more convenient

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and safe option because you know, when we were kids,

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and I'm sure it's probably still a something to look

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out today, but you would get the warning of you know,

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have your your parents check all of your candy or

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good goodies because there might be razor blades in the

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candied apple.

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My my parents always went through our bags before we

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could eat.

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Anything, right, Yeah, I'm pretty sure minded too. But it's

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like in the nineteen thirties they and again that was

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a completely different era compared to when we were growing up,

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So back then it might have been a little more safe,

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and then it just took a downhill spiral.

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Well well, and then on top of that you have

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to consider, like the actual events in which there was

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something dangerous hidden within treats was probably pretty slim and

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very rare, but those very rare occasions kind of blew

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up they they hit. You know, if they were in

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mass media the day, the whole world would know about

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it and everyone would be checking her candy. Right back then,

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it was all word of mouth, the news, et cetera.

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So something like even just one time is enough to

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create widespread fear. And we all know how quickly fear

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likes to grip hold of a person, a community, and

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entire country and so.

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On and so forth.

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So you know the fact that something that probably didn't

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happen very much still stummed over into our childhood in

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the nineties, in which our parents are still checking her

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candy today. No one really looks at candy anymore, Like

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my sister does not check her nieces or my niece's

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candy as often, like maybe just a couple of things

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here there, you know, if it's it seems a little suspicious,

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but typically it's like, oh, it's fine, eat it.

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You know.

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Uh, the fear is not there anymore. But that also

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has to do with degeneration changing, I think.

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Well, and maybe it was even back when we were kids.

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But today, I mean, candy rappers, even though they may

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look safe, may still be laced with a type of

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drug poison, you know. So how you would even notice

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that even if you are looking through candy unless it

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has an odor to it, I mean possible. Yeah, it's

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a little hard to determine unless you see a hole.

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Like you said, you don't detect hampering. So it's like, eh,

471
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:59.519
it's okay. Now. Do old sam Sloan beliefs still resonates, Ay, yes,

472
00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:04.640
of course they do. Many ancient beliefs and traditions associated

473
00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:09.559
with Salen still resonates a both in modern paganism and

474
00:31:09.599 --> 00:31:14.440
in the broader culture through contemporary Halloween celebrations. We've talked

475
00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:20.599
about it throughout the entire episode. The original themes of

476
00:31:20.680 --> 00:31:23.880
honoring the dead, marking the end of the harvest, and

477
00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:28.920
navigating the transition into winter continue to find expression, though

478
00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:33.640
in evolved forms. Like Eric mentioned, we've got the Jack

479
00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:41.359
O'Lantern instead of bonfires, candies instead of cakes, and other

480
00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:47.000
sweet treats. So it's definitely evolved, but we're still practicing

481
00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:52.000
it without realizing we're practicing Salen for sure.

482
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:56.200
I will say that there's nothing quite like sitting outside

483
00:31:56.240 --> 00:31:59.920
around a fire in the Halloween night. It is literally,

484
00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:02.240
I mean, everyone knows Halloween's our favorite time of year,

485
00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:05.039
but it is literally my favorite time like night of

486
00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:08.279
the year, just for the fact that I'm like, I think,

487
00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:12.599
what's I think, what's particularly sorry particularly special to me?

488
00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:16.519
And this isn't probably something that crosses most people's mind,

489
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:19.440
but because of our community here, because of the show,

490
00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:23.480
I will often sit, you know, around a fire on

491
00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:26.880
Halley night and actually think about the origins of Selwyn

492
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:29.440
and think about the history and all the things that happened,

493
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:32.759
and there's just something that is just literally I guess

494
00:32:33.000 --> 00:32:35.880
I wouldn't say literally, but it feels like the spirit

495
00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:39.759
of Halloween, right, like the spirit of Christmas. It's just

496
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:42.799
there in the air. It's thick with it, and it's

497
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:45.119
not a bad feeling like for me, it's like something

498
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:50.720
that I kind of like, I mean, lack of a

499
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:54.359
better term, enjoy in the sense of the historical significance

500
00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:54.720
of it.

501
00:32:55.920 --> 00:32:56.839
Right. Yeah.

502
00:32:57.039 --> 00:32:57.119
No.

503
00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:02.880
And although New Year is the official end of the year,

504
00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:08.559
I have always felt Halloween is kind of that precursor

505
00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:12.799
moment and it kind of makes you reflect on the

506
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:14.839
entire year, not just history itself.

507
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:19.440
With I said, I'm kind of looking forward to Halloween

508
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:27.799
this year. So of course we have candy, we have

509
00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:32.720
you know, song gish things, trig or treats, we have

510
00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:35.839
kids dressing up, etcetera, etcetera. But what is one thing

511
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:39.079
that is very heightened the Halloween that we have yet

512
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:43.200
to discuss, but yet is very prominent to the season itself.

513
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:50.480
There have been reports of heightened paragormal activity around Halloween,

514
00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:54.119
which stemmed from the cultural association of the holiday with

515
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:59.839
ghosts and spirits, which creates a heightened expectation for the supernatural.

516
00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:02.880
And I think there's something very important to think about

517
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:08.960
here because every year there are both professionals and amateurs

518
00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:11.920
alike who go out the week of Halloween and on

519
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:15.599
Halloween to do paranormal investigations with the belief that they

520
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:19.039
are going to actually see more things, you know, encounter

521
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:26.320
more spirits because of the thinning of the veil. Right However,

522
00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:33.559
there is a very good chance that some of these

523
00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:39.880
events are actually increased due to psychological factors and the

524
00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:41.639
thinning of the veil between the living and the dead

525
00:34:41.639 --> 00:34:44.840
and folklore is one thing. When you have your mindset

526
00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:48.519
on actually seeing something, there's a chance that your mind

527
00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:50.440
allows yourself to see it. Now, whether or not what

528
00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:52.719
you're seeing is real or fake, one can you know,

529
00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:55.119
you can only do somebody you don't only believe so

530
00:34:55.159 --> 00:34:57.679
much or seize or learn or whatever you know, if

531
00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:01.679
you catch it on film, camera, on audio, that's one

532
00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:06.239
thing to help. But there is this general aspect where

533
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:10.559
because many people believe that veil is thinnest around Halloween,

534
00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:13.119
we just naturally see more things because you check our

535
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:19.480
minds into seeing more things. Right now, With that said,

536
00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:21.079
the thinning of the veil between the living and the

537
00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:24.400
dead and folklore and a shared fascination with fear and death,

538
00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:28.960
people's expectations and fear of ghosts can influence the perception

539
00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:32.480
of ambiguous events, making them more likely to interpret them

540
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:36.199
as paranormal even if they're not. And I one that

541
00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:38.440
kind of does that year round, Like why is my

542
00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:39.920
cat looking at the corner of the house and there's

543
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:40.400
nothing there?

544
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:40.960
Oh.

545
00:35:41.000 --> 00:35:43.239
I started talking to the thing right like why you

546
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:45.559
get out whatever you are, get out here, which, by

547
00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:48.960
the way, I'll talk to you after this. But this

548
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:52.199
is at this point a few weeks later has of

549
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:55.920
this recording. But last night, that is, at night prior

550
00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:58.920
to this recording, I went and saw Good Boy. How

551
00:35:58.920 --> 00:35:59.639
many of you all saw a.

552
00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:02.239
Good Boy in theater? Let us know, I'm curious.

553
00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:04.159
But for those of you who don't know, Good Boy

554
00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:08.280
is a horror movie that is fully through the perspective

555
00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:12.360
of a dog. And it was phenomenal, It was wonderful,

556
00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:15.119
and it was you know, it was an independent film

557
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:18.119
that was that took three years of film and they

558
00:36:18.199 --> 00:36:19.920
used a dog who was not an actor, who was

559
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:22.800
the director's own dog. And at the end of the

560
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:25.119
movie they actually do a little bit of a behind

561
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:27.400
the scenes to show how they got the dog to act,

562
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:29.920
which in reality was not the dog acting at all,

563
00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:32.199
which was really fun to watch.

564
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:34.400
It was it was really fun to watch, you know,

565
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:35.880
just the way they did it.

566
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:40.679
And then you realize just based on how they edited

567
00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:45.039
things like the dog looked like he was scared, he

568
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:48.159
looked very serious, he looked concerned, but in reality he

569
00:36:48.360 --> 00:36:52.440
wasn't at all. When you take like the actual scene

570
00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:56.480
versus the take behind the scenes, you know, it's like,

571
00:36:56.800 --> 00:36:59.800
here's something scary happening. You know, in the movie it

572
00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:03.719
was dog look scared, but in reality they're hawking horns

573
00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:06.400
and making cute, funny noises to get the dogs ring.

574
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:10.840
And it's like, oh, you know, I forget that just

575
00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:13.480
something juxta something I learned it about it in school.

576
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:16.119
I forget the name of it. But it's basically, if

577
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:19.679
you take the like, take someone whether just a normal

578
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:24.039
like blank expression on their face, right, and then you

579
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:31.199
cut to a picture of a Christmas present, right, people

580
00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:33.880
will think that that person looking at the Christmas present

581
00:37:34.039 --> 00:37:38.360
is excited. Take that same image of that person and

582
00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:41.760
this time cut to a person in a coffin, and

583
00:37:41.800 --> 00:37:44.760
now people think this person looks sad. But the expression

584
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:47.119
didn't change at all. The only thing that changed with

585
00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:50.440
the perspective that the people were seeing, which naturally made

586
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:53.679
them believe they were seeing a certain expression from a

587
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:56.000
person who had no expression at all, And that's how

588
00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:57.679
they ended up doing this movie a lot with the dog.

589
00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:00.760
The dog's expression never changed, but the see was seeing

590
00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:04.800
did for the audience. Anyway, I know there's another rabbit trail,

591
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:07.519
super unique. I loved it. If you haven't seen Good Boy,

592
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:10.119
you should definitely check it out. I love in D films,

593
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:11.119
and that was a good one.

594
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:14.880
Well, I mean it kind of ties in this is

595
00:38:14.920 --> 00:38:17.360
the time of the year that most people watch horror movies,

596
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:25.639
and you're a movie maker, like, although it was a

597
00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:30.519
rabbit trail, at least ties into what we're talking about.

598
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:35.360
One thing I'll say about what you just mentioned with

599
00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:39.760
it possibly being psychological. We talked about this last week

600
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:45.440
where intention, intension, intention, and I brought up you know,

601
00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:49.639
Eric was talking about OCD and I brought up that

602
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:55.760
some people might get overly obsessed over something and just

603
00:38:55.800 --> 00:39:00.960
constantly think about it, which causes an intention or a manifestation,

604
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:06.360
if you will. In this particular context, people are going

605
00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:10.400
to always be thinking about ghosts, spirits, monsters during this

606
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:13.719
time of the year. So long as you don't fixate

607
00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:18.159
on it. I would say, please don't fixate on it,

608
00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:23.440
because you can cause something to attach to you. Whether

609
00:39:23.559 --> 00:39:26.000
you believe the veil is thinnest at this time of

610
00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:29.800
year or not. I mean, we've talked about it for

611
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:35.800
years and years and years. There's always entities, spirits. You

612
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:38.679
don't have to move into a haunted house. These things

613
00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:43.239
can move around freely. Obviously they either were once human.

614
00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:48.519
If it's a ghost or a spirit, can walk through

615
00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:52.880
walls to entities, I mean, because they're not corporeal like

616
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:58.320
we are, right, So I mean, just be aware of

617
00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:03.639
Oh that noise, it was just the the water here

618
00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:08.440
kicking on, or it was just the air heater kicking on.

619
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:16.320
Debunk before you just rush to conclusions what I'm going on.

620
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:20.239
Rushing to conclusions has never helped anybody.

621
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:22.400
Looked in general.

622
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:34.519
Les, Yeah, I get that, I bet yeah.

623
00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:38.360
But looking back, I mean, we've kind of reflected a

624
00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:42.239
little bit through this episode. But what are some of

625
00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:45.000
the things that you wish you could see now that

626
00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:50.079
you don't see anymore during Halloween from when we were growing.

627
00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:53.760
Up were growing up. I would say probably some of

628
00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:59.639
the traditional Halloween commercials really like and maybe they do exist.

629
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:02.840
I don't how many people have regular TV anymore, like cable.

630
00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:05.519
Not me, I've not seen cable. God knows how long.

631
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:07.079
Long generations still do.

632
00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:10.119
But yeah, yeah, but you know, otherwise it's all like

633
00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:13.400
Netflix and you know, anything that streams don't see this

634
00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:17.159
type of commercials. So that's something I definitely miss. On

635
00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:21.280
top of that, I think it's just the if the

636
00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:24.559
feeling has changed, you know, like I used to wake up,

637
00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:27.400
be excited to get dressed, where my costume all day

638
00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:29.920
at school, come home, you know, do whatever I got

639
00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:31.480
to do before I get to go trick or treating.

640
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:34.440
It was exciting, and that excitement really kind of left,

641
00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:36.079
I think for me and probably for a lot of

642
00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:41.480
people in their thirties and forties or a higher So

643
00:41:41.599 --> 00:41:43.639
that is something that I definitely wish you would come back,

644
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:46.920
just a nostalgia would come back more prominently than there

645
00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:47.599
already is.

646
00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:50.639
I mean, I'm sure you can find a lot of

647
00:41:50.679 --> 00:41:52.280
those old commercials on YouTube.

648
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:54.920
You need the same, had the same, man, I don't.

649
00:41:55.239 --> 00:41:56.599
I don't want it to find them, I want them

650
00:41:56.639 --> 00:41:57.079
to find me.

651
00:41:57.480 --> 00:42:02.920
You know, well, I personally don't pay extra to have

652
00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:07.519
commercials cut out of my streaming so Iowa actuals actually

653
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:14.079
still see commercials on some clustering platforms. Maybe find the

654
00:42:14.119 --> 00:42:17.119
ones that are not the extra paid where you can

655
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:19.519
skip commercials and you'll you'll see some.

656
00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:23.119
Maybe, but no other I think Other than that, it's

657
00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:25.840
just seeing more more people will actually trick or treating,

658
00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:29.079
you know, enjoin the holiday for what it is modernly,

659
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:33.039
a night to go out, have some fun, get some candy,

660
00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:37.679
you know, and honestly, modern days, no one cares if

661
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:40.280
you're thirty years old and getting candy. To be honest,

662
00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:41.760
there will be words said.

663
00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:45.480
I know that for a fact, but yeah, it's usually

664
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:48.079
aren't you a little old to be trick or treating? Yeah?

665
00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:49.800
Well, sometimes it's not even to them, it's just behind

666
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:53.199
their back, like that person was like definitely forty, why

667
00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:55.039
are they taking this candy? You know? And I know

668
00:42:55.079 --> 00:42:56.639
that from experier. I didn't say that, but I know

669
00:42:56.920 --> 00:42:57.760
individuals who have to.

670
00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:01.480
I remember as a high schooler going out, Yeah, and

671
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:05.320
people would get upset that we were still trick or treating.

672
00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:08.880
It's like I'm not eighteen yet, like, yeah, let me

673
00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:10.320
enjoy while I still can.

674
00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:13.719
Yeah, I don't know, man, It's just like I recall

675
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:16.159
like nowadays, like you wake up Halloween morning, it's like, man,

676
00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:19.960
it's another day that happens to be Halloween. But when

677
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:23.320
we were kids, you wake up and the whole atmosphere changed.

678
00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:26.079
You woke up into a whole new world. The morning

679
00:43:26.079 --> 00:43:31.360
of Halloween. It's like, dude, it's hollowwen, it's the day,

680
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:33.360
not another day, you know.

681
00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:35.599
And maybe it's just me.

682
00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:38.280
Maybe maybe I just kind of lost that over time.

683
00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:40.000
But I feel like a lot of people could probably

684
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:40.800
meet me on that.

685
00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:47.440
Yeah. And you know, I'm sure it was stressful for

686
00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:50.559
our parents during that time because it's like, ah, we

687
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:54.639
got to get these kids dressed, and especially as time

688
00:43:54.679 --> 00:43:57.880
went on, you could dress up to go to school,

689
00:43:58.239 --> 00:44:00.760
so you were not just dressing up in the evening,

690
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:05.480
you were drissing up to go to school. But what

691
00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:08.840
I said, if you're done, I don't want to cut

692
00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:12.039
you off, even though I did. No, No, that was

693
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:15.079
just my main point is because he's so stressful people.

694
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:19.480
Yeah, for sure. Thinking back, what was your favorite costume

695
00:44:19.679 --> 00:44:21.719
you've ever worn for Halloween?

696
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:36.760
Mmm? I have two? Okay, one was I was in

697
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:51.039
middle school and my mom had literally made a wolfman

698
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:54.679
costume for me. Glued the hair on my hands, on

699
00:44:54.760 --> 00:44:58.039
my face. I don't remember if I had things, I'm

700
00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:02.079
pretty sure I did. I just work kind of like

701
00:45:02.239 --> 00:45:10.960
the vampire things, oral things, and it was I hands down,

702
00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:14.960
that's my top the And Mom, if you're watching this,

703
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:18.400
thank you for always doing things like that when I

704
00:45:18.440 --> 00:45:22.000
was a kid. Because again, and in this day and age,

705
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:27.599
a lot of times people are just buying costumes. My

706
00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:30.920
mom made a lot of costumes for us. I don't

707
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:35.760
remember if your mom made costumes for you, guys, I.

708
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:39.480
Don't think so. And she's listening and has, then you.

709
00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:41.960
Know you're gonna get a thrashing.

710
00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:47.239
Usually. I mean, we were using pretty good at like

711
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:49.719
kind of customizing our own costumes most of the time.

712
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:53.320
But we did have a couple of customs made not

713
00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:57.199
by Mom but by Aunt Leanor.

714
00:45:57.920 --> 00:46:03.639
Okay. The other one that I vividly remember is when

715
00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:09.719
I lived in New Jersey, I had decorated. I really

716
00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:14.079
want to get back into decorating for Halloween, but I

717
00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:16.920
had decorated the outside of the house. Had put this

718
00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:20.280
dummy out there with a Frankensign mask and you know,

719
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:21.960
Franking sign clothes on and stuff.

720
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:24.039
And it wasn't justin wearing a costume.

721
00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:28.000
At the time, No, but then I put that costume

722
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:32.639
on sat back where that that dummy was sitting. Yes,

723
00:46:33.400 --> 00:46:38.760
m it was so cold that day that my hands

724
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:43.000
were like ice cold. It felt like dead flesh. And

725
00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:45.800
I had kids coming up touching me like is it real?

726
00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:48.559
Is it real? And they touched my hand. Oh no,

727
00:46:48.719 --> 00:46:49.280
it's not real.

728
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:53.840
It's cold, and I would jump and the the one

729
00:46:54.519 --> 00:46:59.000
neighbor kid I laughed because he was he was a

730
00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:00.760
good kid, but he was super annoying.

731
00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:09.119
I jumped and roared, and this kid I had never

732
00:47:09.159 --> 00:47:12.679
seen move faster from our porch to his house. I'd

733
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:16.960
say in like two seconds. So that's why that's my

734
00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:20.639
second one, because it turned out perfect that my hands

735
00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:23.920
were that cold that people thought it was still a dummy.

736
00:47:24.199 --> 00:47:28.920
I did something very similar as a werewolf mask and

737
00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:32.000
had like you know, some mini layers on to be

738
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:36.000
stuffed up, and a similar situation happened where people would

739
00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:37.719
ask and I would just like flinch her, just like

740
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:40.079
slowly move toward little kids right and they'd be scared.

741
00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:42.920
But there was this one high school girl that this

742
00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:44.239
is after I was out of high school.

743
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:44.960
So there's I was.

744
00:47:44.920 --> 00:47:47.599
Sitting on the porch bar in this chair. As one

745
00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:50.360
high school group comes up and one of the girls

746
00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:53.360
is like asking my dad if I was real, and

747
00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:55.360
my dad didn't say so. She would like poke me

748
00:47:55.639 --> 00:48:00.039
in places. She's like, he's definitely real, I think, and

749
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:01.639
then go back and poke and like I wouldn't move,

750
00:48:03.960 --> 00:48:06.559
And so finally she went to touch me again and

751
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:08.880
as she did, I like flinched as she jumped back

752
00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:12.079
and screamed and made it like halfway down my driveway

753
00:48:12.760 --> 00:48:15.320
and then stopped and made the poor decision to taunt

754
00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:19.719
to me and say you would never catch me, mister werewolf.

755
00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:22.719
I chased this girl literally more than halfway down the

756
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:26.119
street in the middle of the street. This high school

757
00:48:26.119 --> 00:48:28.800
girl is screaming, and I'm just there's this werewolf trailing

758
00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:35.280
here the entire way. She didn't come back. Nopepe one

759
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:39.199
of the best nights of my life. I love scaring kids.

760
00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:46.760
Wait what Yeah, but my favorite costume was one that

761
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:49.639
our aunt Lonrm made me, and it was a philosoph raptor.

762
00:48:49.840 --> 00:48:53.400
She made it from scratch, had a full tail, had

763
00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:55.599
like a head hood that was all stuffed and had

764
00:48:55.639 --> 00:49:00.559
eyes and teeth and stuff like that, clawed hand like

765
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:03.679
a full sup man. It was by far my number

766
00:49:03.719 --> 00:49:06.360
one favorite costume and I still have it up in

767
00:49:06.400 --> 00:49:09.960
my parents' attic. But yeah, that was by far. There's

768
00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:11.679
been a lot of cool costumes that did, but that one,

769
00:49:12.280 --> 00:49:16.800
that one was it was very special just in general,

770
00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:20.639
but every time. I also loved dinosaurs in Jurassic Park.

771
00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:26.159
So the hay has that really changed? Not really moret

772
00:49:26.320 --> 00:49:30.519
morphed into Godzilla, but yeah, I still love my t

773
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:31.639
Rex rappers, so.

774
00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:35.119
Turned into a more powerful dinosaur and I'm more powerful.

775
00:49:35.199 --> 00:49:37.800
That's what I realized that. Like last year, I was like,

776
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:39.639
why don't I like Godzilla? And then I realized, Oh,

777
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:43.599
he's just a super strong dinosaur who has nuclear powers.

778
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:54.679
Okay, it makes sense. Yeah, I truly miss decorating for Halloween,

779
00:49:54.800 --> 00:49:58.800
and I just, like a lot of things, is I

780
00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:00.880
just kind of make myself to of the time to

781
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:03.920
do it. It's one of those things that's still really

782
00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:07.119
important to me today. I just let life get in

783
00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:12.599
the way and I really need to change that. The

784
00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:14.840
funny thing is, I don't think I would ever hand

785
00:50:14.840 --> 00:50:17.840
out candy again. I just want to decorate to decorate,

786
00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:23.599
and maybe that's part of the change to It's not

787
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:29.679
just less trick or treaters, but maybe people are fearful

788
00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:36.039
of handing out candy too, just because Hoodlum's parents that

789
00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:43.119
are being jerks stuff like that. But yeah, I would

790
00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:45.280
love to do that again. It was my favorite thing

791
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:50.159
to do every year. Trying to think if there's anything

792
00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:54.159
else that I would love to do it again for Halloween.

793
00:50:56.119 --> 00:50:57.920
I mean, I'm with you on the decorating. Like I

794
00:50:58.039 --> 00:51:01.760
used to decorate my front yard like I was legit

795
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:06.000
always the scariest house on the block. And I remember

796
00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:10.480
one year I came home from high school and my

797
00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:14.480
neighbor he used to work for RTA. He would rebuild

798
00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:20.400
or build bus shelters, and he was working near a

799
00:51:20.440 --> 00:51:23.360
funeral home one of the days, and I came home

800
00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:27.639
and in my driveway was a silver casket that he

801
00:51:27.719 --> 00:51:29.840
found in the back of the funeral home. They'd brought

802
00:51:29.840 --> 00:51:33.400
home from me, and that thing like people were scared.

803
00:51:33.599 --> 00:51:35.239
I put like you know, like a vampire hand in

804
00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:37.480
there and closed it and then had strobe light on it.

805
00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:40.760
So it always made some sort of movement. Okay, but

806
00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:43.920
you know, that was just one of my scariest yards,

807
00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:46.320
Like I've always always had it decked out to the brim.

808
00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:48.480
But that casket was a lot of fun too, because

809
00:51:48.519 --> 00:51:50.079
my sisters and I would close each other in it

810
00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:51.920
and push each other around on the wheels and spin

811
00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:55.280
each other and stuff. Who would have thought that you'd

812
00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:57.079
have fun in a casket. They're in a.

813
00:51:57.039 --> 00:52:05.159
Deathbed, right. Ah Well, last question before we start to

814
00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:07.880
wrap it up here, and I think it's the same

815
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:12.480
one I ask you every year, but by far your

816
00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:13.880
favorite Halloween candy?

817
00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:18.840
Oh man, that's tough. Actually this year has it changed?

818
00:52:19.039 --> 00:52:25.880
It does change, it changes. I'm gonna have to go

819
00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:35.400
with Okay, butterfinger, go butterfinger this year? For sure. It's

820
00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:37.199
it has changed over years because I you know, it

821
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:39.840
used to be Twist then turned into three Musketeer the

822
00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:44.719
milky Way, but butter finger has been pretty strong. Last

823
00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:48.199
it's always chocolate for Halloween. Like I love fruity candy

824
00:52:48.199 --> 00:52:51.559
more than chocolate, But for Halloween there's something just you know,

825
00:52:52.159 --> 00:52:58.880
Rec's kit Kat, Milky Ways through Musketeer butterfingers. Those are

826
00:52:58.880 --> 00:53:01.400
like staples you know for Halloween.

827
00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:04.880
Right, I mean, by far my favorite candy bar. It

828
00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:09.719
has not changed over as long as I remember eating candy.

829
00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:16.639
And that's a kick. Kat, but after eating chili, candy

830
00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:21.719
corn has become a second for Halloween at least. And

831
00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:24.480
I mean, you guys can judge me, but that's fine.

832
00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:27.559
I personally like candy corn. I never used to, but

833
00:53:27.599 --> 00:53:28.559
I enjoy it.

834
00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:31.920
Oh and maybe it's you know, taste buds change over

835
00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:35.199
time too. Yeah, because I when I was younger, I

836
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:38.039
hated candy corn. I'm like, get this out of here.

837
00:53:38.159 --> 00:53:43.519
It's nothing but flavored wax to me, which it's not.

838
00:53:43.719 --> 00:53:50.360
It's confection or sugar. But still, but yeah, candy corn,

839
00:53:50.760 --> 00:53:57.119
by far is on the top for me. So we

840
00:53:57.119 --> 00:54:02.360
would love to hear your guys' reflections. What what is

841
00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:06.840
your favorite Halloween costume that you've worn, either while you

842
00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:10.679
were growing up or as an adult. Favorite Halloween candy.

843
00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:16.440
Favorite Halloween activity. One I don't think I've ever done

844
00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:20.440
is bobbing for apples, mostly because I'm afraid of drowning.

845
00:54:20.639 --> 00:54:24.840
So that's fair, that's fair when have of them forbid

846
00:54:24.880 --> 00:54:26.559
you drown in a bucket of apples.

847
00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:29.440
Yeah, I mean, somebody could just randomly be a jerk

848
00:54:29.480 --> 00:54:30.480
and try to hold my head.

849
00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:33.280
Yeah, and then you literally you could drown and choke

850
00:54:33.320 --> 00:54:33.960
at the same time.

851
00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:42.440
Exactly wild. Yeah, tell us in the comments or email us,

852
00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:47.800
send us a voicemail on our website. It's it's one

853
00:54:47.800 --> 00:54:49.639
of those things where I think we can all come

854
00:54:49.679 --> 00:54:53.199
together for Halloween or any any holidays that we grew

855
00:54:53.239 --> 00:54:58.320
up enjoying in the US as kids. So just a

856
00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:02.679
kind of a quick recap you. Halloween kind of started

857
00:55:03.159 --> 00:55:08.320
because of the practice of Saouen. The the reason it's

858
00:55:08.519 --> 00:55:14.559
dark origins is because back then we mentioned ritual sacrifice.

859
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:18.320
There were times that that was human sacrifice during the

860
00:55:18.320 --> 00:55:24.360
time of the Celtic religions, Gaelic religions or practices, but

861
00:55:24.599 --> 00:55:28.599
there was animal sacrifice as well, which in today's day

862
00:55:28.599 --> 00:55:31.119
and age could be considered dark because we don't do

863
00:55:31.239 --> 00:55:33.679
an animal sacrifice.

864
00:55:33.119 --> 00:55:37.480
Either anymore, well most of us don't.

865
00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:46.280
Fair enough, but yeah, I mean it it changed from

866
00:55:46.519 --> 00:55:53.119
something from a pagan tradition or religion religious right to

867
00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:59.280
what we know today. And it's one of those things

868
00:55:59.280 --> 00:56:04.800
that you want to remember history because it is it's important,

869
00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:10.760
mostly so that way we don't repeat it. Right. Next week,

870
00:56:10.920 --> 00:56:16.440
we're going to be talking to Shanda Parkinson about her book,

871
00:56:16.559 --> 00:56:21.599
The Book of Ritual Baths, and I'm gonna love this

872
00:56:21.639 --> 00:56:24.360
one because that's actually where I meditate the most, is

873
00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:30.719
in the bath or shower too, but a common practice

874
00:56:30.719 --> 00:56:33.320
for me over the past several years is assault bath,

875
00:56:33.480 --> 00:56:37.280
so this will be kind of an interesting one. Make

876
00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:40.079
sure you make sure you like share a subscribe you know,

877
00:56:40.199 --> 00:56:44.800
no matter where you watch, listen, get in on the conversation.

878
00:56:44.960 --> 00:56:48.320
Let us know what you guys think. Without you guys,

879
00:56:48.360 --> 00:56:51.480
we don't have a show. So I really would love

880
00:56:51.519 --> 00:56:54.519
to see some more engagement from you all, just because

881
00:56:54.679 --> 00:56:59.719
it helps us as a as a podcast, not just

882
00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:03.440
that we're getting engagement, but we love to chit chat.

883
00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:09.519
I will say happy Halloween to all of you. Enjoy

884
00:57:09.559 --> 00:57:13.639
the spooky season. Don't get caught up caught up on

885
00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:17.880
all of the horrible things that can happen, because if

886
00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:22.440
you get caught up on that, somehow it may possibly do.

887
00:57:22.599 --> 00:57:28.960
So be happy, be fruitful, be safe during this time

888
00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:32.880
of year. But until next week, where you'll find us,

889
00:57:33.039 --> 00:57:38.280
same time, same channel. My name is Justin and I'm Eric.

890
00:57:39.079 --> 00:57:40.760
Peace and happy Halloween.