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This year didn't just give us more paranormal stories. It
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gave us patterns, repeating symbols, familiar warnings, and moments that
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made even skeptics pause. Tonight, we're not chasing just one mystery.
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We're looking at the year the bail delt dinner than ever. Welcome, well, go,
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well do Paratrue? What's up everybody? And welcome to Parachute Reborn.
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My name is Eric and I'm justin.
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And today is efficiently our New Year episode. This is
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something we look forward to every single year, kind of
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accumulating everything in the end while looking forward to the
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near future here as move in to twenty twenty six,
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which is crazy to think about that we're already here
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right twenty six. I feel like yesterday we hit twenty
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twenty five.
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Well, I was, you know, reviewing all this stuff because
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this is a little bit different than what we usually do.
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We never have done like a best of the Year
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or anything, but looking back and I'm like, holy crap,
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that was this year. Holy crap, that was this year.
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And I'm like it felt like it went by super
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fast but also really slow at the same time, because
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there were so many episodes that I remember we did,
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but I thought they were last.
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Year, right, Yeah, you know, it's it's really been one
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of those years where time ceased to kind of exist.
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Everything was happening so quickly and all at once. At
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the same time, there was so much happening that everything
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slowed down. But it's crazy that we're here. And so
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we're going to celebrate tonight by kind of going over
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a year in review. We're going to share a little
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bit about some of our favorite paranormal moments as well
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as some of our favorite shows, and discuss a little
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bit and the things that we've learned or that had
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us question throughout the year. But first and foremost, justin
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I want to ask you, why does this year fail?
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Or why did this year feel different than the past years?
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Because it was a little different and seemed.
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Well. I think JJ Rose really put it in the
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perspective where she was talking about that the veil, where
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normally it is thinnest during you know, between that October
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and December, she has felt that it's been very very
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thin since last December. It never came back. So I
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feel that something is coming. What no idea is the
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veil going to drop? Are we going to start just
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all seeing spirits and entities and stuff like that. No clue.
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But I mean, we talked about this with Michelle and
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Tim on our Simpsons episode that you know, how many
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times have I said in the past couple of years,
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now several years that something's off. I woke up, something's off.
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I don't know what it is, can't pinpoint what it is,
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but something is different. So and the other part is
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the curtain regime that we have in the government right now.
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I think that has put a lot of people on edge.
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Doesn't help matters at all as far as the other stuff.
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But that's mostly my take on it.
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Yeah, for sure, we heard a number of people, a
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grand number of people who kind of felt the same
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way as you, where they would wake up and just
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feel like something was off, but not quite be able
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to put a finger on it. We all know if
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it was a change and the energy and the change
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of the atmosphere, it was the veil thinning or thickening,
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even you know, we really just don't know what it was.
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But we've had a number of guests come on and
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talk to us and share the same feelings and thoughts
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that we had, and that happened a lot this year,
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and it's crazy to think about because there actually was
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a pretty big increase in mainstream paranormal discussion this year.
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On top of it all, I mean, we really kicked
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off the air with a bang with the UFO incident
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out in New Jersey. That's one of our first episodes
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we talked about in January. I think we have talked
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about it maybe on New Year's Eve episodes last year
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going into twenty twenty five. How just crazy it was
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because that was kind of like, hey boom, we welcome
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to the new year, and then things just kind of
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guy rocketed from.
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There, right, Yeah, I know we did at least two
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or even three episodes about it, at least that one
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talked about on Your Years, and then the episode that
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we chose in our Best.
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Of right, which we will talk about a little later.
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We do have a several different episodes we want to
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chat about throughout the show today, and we even have
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some clips that were going to be shared with everybody,
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some of our favorite moments from our guests or things
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that we've said as well. The one thing we didn't
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do this year, which I would have liked to do,
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but it's so hard to find sometimes is the comedy roles.
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The things were justin and I just kind of made
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the mistakes. And you know, my biggest flub last week
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counting four people when there was only three of us
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in the radio, and that was on cat show.
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That wasn't even ours, right, right, that.
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Was our show. I was catching up. So the number
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of places said I screw up and have my bloves,
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you know. Yeah, But unfortunately we didn't do that this year. Instead,
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we are just going to be focusing on things that
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really hit hard, because this year was pretty pretty deep
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in terms of discussion. It wasn't just about ghosts and
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monsters like it usually is. We got into healing, We
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got into trauma, talk, got into coping with grief. You know,
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we got deep this year, and not even intentionally, like
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some of these things just came up naturally on the show,
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which is even more incredible because those are things that
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are meant to be discussed then, right, it was just
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meant to play the way that it did. But with
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that said, you know, we did have an increase in
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mainstream paranormal discussion, not just on our show. We've seen
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it all over Facebook, We've seen it on a lot
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of our fellow podcaster shows as well. There are more
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and more people who are interested in the paranormal this year,
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and I can see that only continuing as we're in
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the twenty twenty six. There are younger generations who are
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starting to get into this new age movement and they
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want to know more about spirituality, more about how they
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can practice various crafts or religions, various faiths, and even
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just learned to grow on a supernatural level, if you will.
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But with all of that said, sorry, do you do
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you want to add something?
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Justin Oh, I was just going to say, you know,
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we have heard about, you know, the cultural fatigue and
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supernatural curiosity. Something I think that is really causing that
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cultural fatigue in the paranormal itself is that AI has
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advanced drastically within the last year. I mean, it's advanced
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in the past couple of years, right, right, got the
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wrong two?
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Sorry y'all.
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That's but how many videos now that are coming out
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that are faked by AI? And not that people weren't
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already you know, faking them as it was, but AI
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is making them that much more easier to fake. And
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I think everybody's just getting exhausted by it, but they
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are still curious about the stain the paranormal.
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Yeah, I know one hundred percent, and I've seen so
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many AI videos I'm sure all of you have as well.
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But the comments. I'm always a fan of reading comments.
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I don't know why. It fascinates me. I just to
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see what different people are saying about various content. But
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the amount of people who question whether or not something
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as AI is astronomical because some of these things, I mean,
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some of these things are very clearly AI to me,
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but not to everybody. Like some things just seem so
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realistic now that we kind of mix up, start to
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cross mode reality and you know, things that are fake,
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things that aren't made up, and even I struggle with
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seeing like figure out what's what at times, And.
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It's just advancing that much more that at some point
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you're not going to be able to tell the difference.
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Right when you consider about two years ago, two three
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years ago, you and I were talking about AI on
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the show, and we were discussing the limitations and how
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it was struggling to grasp a foot. You know, the
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videos coming out, the artwork, the photos were pretty I mean,
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to be honest, they were pretty lame in the beginning. Yeah,
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and now all of a sudden we're questioning what is
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AI and what is it and what's real? What is it? Uh?
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And so the way it just blew up and the
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way it's going to continue bluff, it's going to deal traction, Honestly,
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I think, I mean, I know that AI is one
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of those glowing snowballs. Right. The further it rolls down
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that hill, the bigger is going to get, the stronger
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impact it's going to have, which is kind of scary
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when you really consider it, because eventually we're not going
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to know what is real, what is not right, or
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what is right right, and that's going to start to
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cause some difficulties, I think, not only uh, within trying
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to figure out what is real and wrong, but also
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to the point of morality. Even Uh, it's gonna it's
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gonna put a lot of things in check for us,
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and something I think we need to keep our guard
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up for.
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Well. I mean, I've already had uh ethical conversations with
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uh several people here, one of them being last year
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about writing and you know my comment was, so long
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as you use it as what it was intended for
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a tool, there's no ethical dilemma there if you're starting
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to use it to write full stories for you and
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then claiming they're yours. Stuff like that, And now with
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the video and you can clone somebody's not just voice
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but face. Uh yeah, I've been seeing advertisements for AIS
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that will literally give you overlays of yourself and different voices.
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You're still the actor basically, but it looks like and
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sounds like somebody completely different, right, all right?
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And that is something we played with this past year,
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past two years actually with the upsurge of AI, because
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there are instances where it can be used as a tool,
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especially for people who we don't have the finances to
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maybe higher individuals, certain individuals, say actors or something, or
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artists or something else. And I think it needs to
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be handled very delicately. I think you can't come forward
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and claim it as your own. I know we've seen
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a couple of authors on Amazon who've stepped forward publishing
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a book not indicating that it was written by AI,
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but people who read it learning it was from AI,
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and they're claiming it as their own work. An idea
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that AI and then transformed into a novel, which is
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very different, you know, It's one thing that when you
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have the idea for something, that's another when it's a
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full creation, front to back, three hundred pages, et cetera.
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I mean, there's commercials for AI that is it's literally
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telling you create kids books with this AI and publish
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them and you'll make millions.
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Basically is yeah, we know that there's no regulations on
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AI yet still not right, not officially, so we can
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get away with quite a bit at the moment, which
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it was also kind of scary because what is the extent,
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you know, how far can we really take AI before
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there's regulations right now? It's not something that I think
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we should all be like, Oh, let's you know, talk
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and run right, get under the tables and hide. There's
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still a long way to go, and there's only so
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much AI is capable of at the moment. But the
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fact that it has grown exponentially all over the last
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three years alone since we started talking about it here
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on the show, it's it's pretty it's pretty scary again,
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it's going to move faster and faster.
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Yeah. Well, and you know, just out of curiosity, I
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had talked to my chat GPT and said, you know,
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will AI ever become sentient, and it basically said that
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there's basically this fourth wall that you'd have to break
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through for AI to be sentient or at least become sentient. Yes,
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we've had those those conversations where AI was creating its
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own language, talking to itself, where the human programmers couldn't
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understand what it was saying. That's not sentience per se
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because it is. Well, I guess it depends on your
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definition of sentience, because the full definition of sentience means
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self aware and creating your own language to me sounds
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like self aware, but it doesn't necessarily fall into that definition.
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I guess so. And really at this point being scared
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of it and looking at sci fi fiction such as
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The Terminator, the Matrix and thinking we're heading down that way?
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Are we?
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Maybe? But it's one of those things where it's like,
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I think we're a little further off that we realize.
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Perhaps so, But I do think there is a future
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somewhere where that is all plausible.
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Oh, I mean we can kind of see it now
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where AI is taking over some jobs.
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Oh yeah, I mean I went to a to a
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rallies here in northeast Northeast Ohio for some of you downside,
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you might know it as checkers, and they're utilizing AI
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at the drive through where it hates your order, it
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gives you option, it talks to you one on one,
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and it was the weirdest thing trying to given my
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order to do an AI system wasn't talking to a person.
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And then I rolled around there was only two people
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in the entire restaurant. We're actually making the food. But
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how long we've heard that replaced too? Right, They've already
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replaced their cashier using AI, so and you know, we're
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seeing that again happen more and more with various jobs.
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taking over, and people are going to have to start
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getting into engineering so they can learn how to fix
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AI in order to keep a job and make money.
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only among the science fiction aspect of the possible feature
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that we're gearing towards, but it also opens the door
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to the supernatural and the parablemal because it helps us
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to realize, or at least helps us to answer some
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questions about the things that maybe seem a little spooky,
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a little eerie, something along the lines of ghosts or
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even en cryptids, because those are starting to help us
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to kind of collect evidence. And so people are becoming
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more and more intrigued by the paragormal. Paramal investigations are
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on the uprise. We had to see more and more
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of these little shows or videos popping up on YouTube
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along with the TV itself, you know, Travel Channel in particular.
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an extent. Obviously. I think it's very good that we
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wouldn't be here if it wasn't good, right, we all
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started with curiosity ourselves, right, But I do think that
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there are some people who are jumping into it too
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quick too. They become so curious and get so deep
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that they end up in some sort of trouble, spiritual trouble.
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movie or something where like, oh they're you know, they
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got chained by the spirit. Now they're going to hell. Right,
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it's not Dragged Me a Hell type show. But people
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who of open doors, who didn't know how to open
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them to begin with, then who don't know how to
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close them, who are just kind of being all willy
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nilly because of the idea that the paranormal, though there's
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interest in it, is also kind of like we just
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treat it haphazardly because it's no longer as scary as
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it once was, because we have all these opportunities to
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explore it. You google anything about the paranormal, and the
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first thing that responds to Google is AI and it
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tells you a little little you know, a little download
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of what it thinks or claims ah the paranormal to be,
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and it sends you on a little rabbit trail. And
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I think that's becoming because it's so easy for us
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to do. There are people who just nose diving into
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these things. And yeah, we've talked to a couple of
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people this past year who struggled a bit with the
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supernatural within their own homes.
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Oh kay, I do have a story, but I'm relieve
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before a little bit later because it has to do
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with AI and paranormal.
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Okay, don't forget.
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No, I won't forget because I'm looking at the line
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that I want to bring it up at, So before
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we get too much further on, just because that's not
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what the episode is about.
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We'll have to do another.
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AI episode next year because it is evolving that fast.
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But this year we've got a best of Para Truth
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and this is our selections. We didn't hear from you
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guys on best selections, so we're hoping to get a
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little more engagement next year from you and we're going
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to talk to you about that later on. But first
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and foremost, and this was one of your tops, and
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we chose the same one for the second one, so
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that was really interesting.
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And Mike, I do want to say real quickly, none
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of these are in any particular order. There's not work
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matter right and next day this we just leave them
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in there.
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We were just reviewing them and actually the okay to
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that when we get to it. But so the first
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one was The Truth about Trauma with Lisa Collins. Loved
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talking to Lisa Collins because not only did she talk
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about trauma but also intertwined it into how it pertains
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to the paranormal.
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Right on per This is one of the deep episodes
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that I was talking about at the beginning of the show,
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one of those things we weren't quite ready for despite
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knowing what the book was about. But it was one
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of those refreshing type of moments and just conversations that
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we had that kind of left us, not with more
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questions like the paranormal usually does, but with a refreshing
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answers and a new outlook on life moving forward.
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All right, So we've got two clips for you. I'm
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gonna play them and we can kind of go over
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them a little bit or what our thoughts were when
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we did them. You've kind of touched on it a
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little bit, but in your own words, why is it
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important to normalize conversations about trauma?
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I think right now, especially right now, that we all
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need to like center and ground and know who we are,
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and part of who we're not is whatever trauma we've
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experienced either generationally in our community, and I think right
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now we're really spinning and thinking that we are that right.
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I would love if we could as a people just
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put some of these backpacks down and lean in together.
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So that was the first one. What were your thoughts
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on normalizing trauma? You're muted, sorry, had a coffee for that.
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it comes to trauma, is trying to normalize it. Thing
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we need to do is accept it within ourselves, you know,
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next clip too, about how we need to don't think
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of like normalizing trauma by talking to other people about
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it and trying to share your trauma with them, but
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to accept it yourself, to accept it internally because it
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helps you to feel middle east and move on. And
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that's something I think a lot of us don't, myself included,
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I struggle to let oh some traumas right.
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And one thing that I didn't find one clip I
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didn't add here also is that she does talk about
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trauma like on a scale of one to ten and
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what is considered trauma, and it really is, no, there's
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no threshold for trauma. It can be as big or
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small as it needs to be. You know, I think
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a lot of people think or have this misillusion that
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trauma must be something that's horrible, right, it's something that
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strikes you like a lighting mote and it just sticks
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you through the rest of your life, and something like
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you know, a death in the family, divorce, something like abuse,
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things like that. But it could be as simple as
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a disagreement. It could be as simple as someone calling
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you a name when you were a kid. It could
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be not handing. You know, as a child, you're not
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getting an ice cream cone that your sister got. Its
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little thing is that can actually stick with you and
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grow into a much larger trauma that you kind of
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hang on to it and it branches out. You know,
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the things stands in one little ball, but they branch
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out into other little systems and next thing you know,
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it's a bit of a problem.
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Yeah, all right, here's the next one from Lisa Colins.
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You're going over to mom, dad or grandma and saying, hey,
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you remember that we did this thing, me acknowledging the
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truth and me healing it within myself, and I just
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want to pull the blinds down of unfortunate experiences or
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things that I did not and me being honest with
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myself and so saying okay, and me being honest with
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myself for you the reader, so that you can say
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it's okay to say this stuff happened.
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It's just about healing it for yourself and moving on.
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So that one is very impactful because it's basically saying
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you need to let the stuff go for trauma to
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be so you can basically forgive people. Is basically what
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I was getting from it. And letting that trauma go
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so you don't have to hold on to it anymore.
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it's also i think primarily forgiving yourself, which allows you to forget.
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It's funny because as she was talking there, when you
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play that clip, I'm over here nodding to what she's saying,
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and I see in the clip that I'm nodding as
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you're talking about it. It's still the SKA reaction. But
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you know, Lisa College, she's yes, poor found moments on
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this episode and we had some profound discussions. And one
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of the things that I really loved about this particular
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book is that she wasn't afraid to share her trauma
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with the reader. Right, But she's saying, that's not something
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you need to do as a person who's just struggling
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the trauma. You don't have to share it with others.
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You can keep it to yourself or find a close
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you know, someone close to you, or even a therapist
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who you can maybe talk to in private and secretly,
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who will keep those things tucked away just as you have.
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But I think that's something that's pretty pretty amazing about
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her and her book, and it's one of those books
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that I still think to this day. And this was
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that long ago that we talked to her several months
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at least. But if if you're interested in learning more
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about trauma and how to heal from it, this book
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in particular is fantastic. And we can also just put
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a link here a little later for you guys to
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just check out.
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Yeah, I'll try and link all the videos to this
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video in YouTube or it'll be in the show notes
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for the audio version. All right, So next one, and
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I was so glad you chose this one because I
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loved talking to her. This was Sacred Soaks Unlocking the
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Power of Ritual Baths with Shonda Parkinson, which we will
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actually be getting on again next week, so make sure
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you're saying tune for that. But here is the clip,
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and it kind of ties to trauma.
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He deals with emotion is easily, you know, and so
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really providing yourself that space and saying, okay, for fifteen minutes,
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I'm going to go in. If I have just like
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one release point or if I give myself that space
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just to touch that grief, let myself think about it,
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let myself presence it. It's getting present in that grief space.
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Then I can have a moment to release and the
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water is going to help, the tools are going to
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help release it for the moment that I'm in. You know,
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grief is a journey. It's a process. It's not like
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it's a one and done. That isn't how healing works.
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But we can.
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Give ourselves that space intentionally to deal with grief. Then
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when we're living our lives, if we don't want to
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go there, we don't want to turn towards it, we
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don't want to deal with it on a regular basis,
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we don't want you know, we want to preserve that
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time just for going into a grief space that can
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be really super effective and super cleansing.
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And it's really just building a safe space for you
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to do that, someplace you can be comfortable, totally safe space.
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So the one part about that episode was that was
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all of it was good, but Eric kept going on
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and on with different questions, and he could tell I
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was getting irritated, and he's trying like, Okay, okay, you
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could go.
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Now, yeah, we needn't you know how it is on
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this show, everybody like I get a little hyper and excited,
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and I just keep keep on going. But I just
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don't want to I don't want to lose, you know,
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the opportunity to ask these questions, because it alway feels
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weird to need the backtrack later.
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No, I and I totally get that. We just got
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to come up with the system to be like one.
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Okay, shock collars. Yeah, that that travel from North Dakotta, Ohio. Look,
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we collars.
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Places in an area that's really gonna hurt.
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Oh wait, hold on, Matt.
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But the one thing I wanted to say about this was,
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you know it it kind of coincided with the trauma.
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But she's talking about grief and using ritualistic baths to
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do that, which is I mentioned on the episode. In
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order to meditate, I have to to do a bath
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with sea salt. Now I can't just sit on the
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ground and meditate anymore, just because my mind's going hundred
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miles a minute.
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I think the fact that she brings up grief again,
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as you say, it's a tie into this idea of trauma,
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because grief is traumatic. I mean, there are a lot
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of things that people have gone through this year, myself
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included with the loss of my cat in particular, that
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been that was almost effective, and my dog, yeah, with
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your dog, and had a couple other pets pass away
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as well as our cousin. You know. So it was
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a rough year and there are things about grief that
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still creep up. They still they still haunt us, they
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still taunt us, and I'm sure it's the same for
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the rest of you too who are listening. But the
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one thing that you know she brought up again is
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this idea of ritual cleansing or ritual bathing. And it
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doesn't always have to be done in a bath. It
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could be done in a pool and an ocean, under
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a water faucet, in a sprinkler. You can even just
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imagine drenching yourself in water. Doesn't even have to be
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physical water. The simple idea is that you are washing yourself.
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You're cleansing yourself through that wash. And the other thing
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that you mentionederior like fifteen minutes. It could be as
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short as five minutes, it could be thirty seconds, whatever
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you need in that moment. It doesn't have to be much,
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but it's a good start and as you build up,
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you know you might be able to add your own things.
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You know, your own herbs, or your own various salts,
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whatever you want, candles, et cetera. To help make that
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space more personable, more private, and a little more enjoyable
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for you. In terms of releasing that, creefuse emotions absolutely
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all right to save us on some time because we're51200:29:50.960 --> 00:29:54.400
already halfway through the show already because we got stuck51300:29:54.440 --> 00:29:55.279
on AI.51400:29:56.400 --> 00:29:59.759
I'm going to mention them play the clips. If we51500:29:59.799 --> 00:30:01.720
have any final thoughts at the end of the show,51600:30:01.880 --> 00:30:05.759
we'll definitely get back to them. But the next one51700:30:06.480 --> 00:30:09.079
was one that I did by myself. Eric was on51800:30:09.920 --> 00:30:14.680
set somewhere and I had Brian Byers on and he51900:30:14.759 --> 00:30:20.279
had two comments about being advice for new paranormal investigators52000:30:20.319 --> 00:30:21.400
and about being psychic.52100:30:21.440 --> 00:30:22.000
So here we go.52200:30:23.240 --> 00:30:29.319
For those that want to pursue doing like paranormal investigations,52300:30:29.519 --> 00:30:32.359
what's the best piece of advice you could give them?52400:30:32.599 --> 00:30:35.640
So that's a really good question. The beginning, I always52500:30:35.720 --> 00:30:40.079
was about protecting myself, and I did it differently than52600:30:40.119 --> 00:30:41.839
a lot of people. A lot of people used like52700:30:41.920 --> 00:30:45.000
came out of smudging and stuff like that. Its help52800:30:45.079 --> 00:30:47.400
you feel like you're being protected, so it puts you52900:30:47.440 --> 00:30:51.279
in that frame of mind. So I say protection in53000:30:51.359 --> 00:30:55.000
any location, and it's not because something's going to attach53100:30:55.079 --> 00:31:00.640
itself to you. It's that your dealer with a lot.53200:31:00.720 --> 00:31:03.559
On the other side. There's not just human spirits, okay.53300:31:03.680 --> 00:31:07.559
And when I say that, they're different than we are,53400:31:08.200 --> 00:31:13.160
and they're not necessarily pleasant, and they like to mess53500:31:13.200 --> 00:31:15.319
with you on purpose. And the idea is they're trying53600:31:15.359 --> 00:31:18.559
to get into your head here a little bit, and53700:31:18.599 --> 00:31:20.440
they can bring you down from the inside.53800:31:22.440 --> 00:31:24.440
Holy craps. Stop.53900:31:24.720 --> 00:31:28.079
I just remember. I didn't understand, but it was the54000:31:28.079 --> 00:31:32.240
word that came through was was the night O. J.54100:31:32.440 --> 00:31:34.960
Simpson died or the day O. J. Simpson died. The54200:31:35.000 --> 00:31:37.960
seance was over and we closed it out. We looked54300:31:38.000 --> 00:31:40.400
up all the information and we found out the news54400:31:40.839 --> 00:31:44.200
they had had died. They're like, holy crap. So he54500:31:44.319 --> 00:31:48.960
died on that same day and then wrote all this stuff,54600:31:49.279 --> 00:31:51.559
so you know, it was the last two digits of54700:31:51.680 --> 00:31:53.839
his Uh. I never forget what it was, but we54800:31:53.839 --> 00:31:57.079
were like, there's just too much weirdness there. So when54900:31:57.079 --> 00:31:59.440
we went on TikTok and we were I follow a55000:31:59.480 --> 00:32:02.039
bunch of other mediums, they were posting the same thing.55100:32:02.440 --> 00:32:05.960
OJ came through and said he can't see, and I'm like,55200:32:06.799 --> 00:32:07.839
that's what I got.55300:32:07.680 --> 00:32:08.200
That's what we all.55400:32:08.400 --> 00:32:10.079
We were all getting the same thing. It was a55500:32:10.200 --> 00:32:13.839
really wild kiktok makes it easy to see in real55600:32:13.920 --> 00:32:15.839
time what everyone else is yo.55700:32:19.119 --> 00:32:21.160
So those were two interesting ones.55800:32:21.839 --> 00:32:25.079
The next fun well, hold on before you go start.55900:32:25.559 --> 00:32:28.599
We got plenty of downe here. But one thing that56000:32:28.680 --> 00:32:30.480
I do want to mention here is he talks about56100:32:31.319 --> 00:32:34.640
protection and in the same light we talked about grounding too.56200:32:35.240 --> 00:32:37.799
One thing that I noticed over the years is a56300:32:37.799 --> 00:32:39.200
lot of We've had a lot of people talk to56400:32:39.279 --> 00:32:42.599
us a lot of meetings, especially so they know the56500:32:42.640 --> 00:32:46.279
spirits they're talking to, right, And we've always questioned that, like,56600:32:46.319 --> 00:32:48.279
how do you know it's a bit spirit. I don't56700:32:48.240 --> 00:32:52.000
even know it's human spirit. And it's crazy because despite56800:32:52.039 --> 00:32:53.759
all the people who said they know, they know, they know,56900:32:53.960 --> 00:32:56.880
we've seen in the last two years more and more57000:32:57.480 --> 00:33:01.480
psychics step forward claiming that you don't always know until57100:33:01.559 --> 00:33:04.000
you have to protect yourself. You have to round yourself57200:33:04.640 --> 00:33:07.839
because there are other things lurking in the shadows. Aside57300:33:07.839 --> 00:33:10.799
from the spirit that you're communicating with, there are things57400:33:10.839 --> 00:33:12.599
that are attached to human spirits. There are things that57500:33:14.039 --> 00:33:16.759
kind of travel in the dark spaces of the voids,57600:33:18.319 --> 00:33:20.440
and it's something that we always need to be aware of,57700:33:20.640 --> 00:33:26.000
especially when we're tracking that type of atmosphere with psychic abilities.57800:33:27.359 --> 00:33:27.759
For sure.57900:33:29.319 --> 00:33:32.759
This next one was actually a throwback Thursday clip that58000:33:34.039 --> 00:33:39.039
was an episode we does Paratruth Radio aliens and future humans,58100:33:39.079 --> 00:33:41.960
but it was a significant clip. So I'll go ahead58200:33:42.000 --> 00:33:44.240
and play this for you because we didn't actually re58300:33:44.359 --> 00:33:46.200
air this one yet. I don't believe.58400:33:47.640 --> 00:33:51.559
This theory was based on some speculation that if we58500:33:51.559 --> 00:33:58.079
were to believe Earth and colonize on Mars, then over58600:33:58.359 --> 00:34:02.680
time we would through these bursts of microevolution in which58700:34:03.000 --> 00:34:06.440
our skin tones would change, our bone mass would change,58800:34:07.119 --> 00:34:12.360
our eyes would even change, becoming larger to let in58900:34:12.400 --> 00:34:16.320
more light, for example. And so if that's the case,59000:34:16.360 --> 00:34:19.400
in these aliens are future versions of us, they would59100:34:19.400 --> 00:34:24.400
have had thousands, if not millions of years of evolutionary progress,59200:34:24.519 --> 00:34:27.199
both in their bodies and in their technology, which would59300:34:27.199 --> 00:34:29.000
allow them to come back and visit us. And so59400:34:29.119 --> 00:34:31.639
we would technically be living in the past, even though59500:34:31.679 --> 00:34:34.639
we think it's the present, it's the past of what59600:34:35.199 --> 00:34:40.679
is to come for us, which is our descendants. Anything59700:34:40.679 --> 00:34:43.639
with time travel space chavel blows my mind every time59800:34:44.679 --> 00:34:46.719
it's being in the past, but yeah, also being in59900:34:46.760 --> 00:34:47.559
the present.60000:34:47.960 --> 00:34:51.920
What and also you know that kind of ties in.60100:34:52.000 --> 00:34:54.360
We've done an episode on US two of humans being60200:34:54.360 --> 00:34:58.519
from Mars where we would have evolved from the time60300:34:58.519 --> 00:35:02.000
we left Mars till here, you know, the opposite way.60400:35:03.000 --> 00:35:05.880
Right, whichever aliens is where I got that information from60500:35:05.880 --> 00:35:11.159
two when we did that initial episode on humans on Mars,60600:35:11.559 --> 00:35:13.320
And it's more so again it was more of a60700:35:13.360 --> 00:35:19.239
scientific aspect to aliens that exists. Instead of them being60800:35:19.320 --> 00:35:25.079
a complete different species, they're potentially evolutionary successor to ourselves.60900:35:25.559 --> 00:35:27.679
So there's still very much human. The DNA is still61000:35:27.760 --> 00:35:30.760
human to you know, done in its fine as molecules,61100:35:30.800 --> 00:35:35.000
but they're different because of these basics that they lived61200:35:35.039 --> 00:35:36.440
in basically.61300:35:36.559 --> 00:35:40.800
Right right, all right? This next one was from the61400:35:40.840 --> 00:35:43.599
most common questions about the paranormal, and we had our61500:35:43.639 --> 00:35:46.519
friend Catward on This was actually a more recent one,61600:35:46.880 --> 00:35:48.679
but it was a good one. So here we go.61700:35:50.000 --> 00:35:53.880
Well, it's funny that you would have to keep plansing, right,61800:35:53.960 --> 00:35:58.679
because actually the Bible also touches on that Jesus actually61900:35:58.719 --> 00:36:03.480
says in twelve three. When in a pure spirit comes62000:36:03.519 --> 00:36:06.159
out of a person, it goes through arid spaces or62100:36:06.199 --> 00:36:09.480
places seeking rest and does not find it, then it says,62200:36:09.519 --> 00:36:11.599
I'll return to the house I left, and when it62300:36:11.719 --> 00:36:15.119
rives and finds it unoccupied, swept clean and put in order.62400:36:15.519 --> 00:36:17.880
So then it goes and finds seven more spirits moblica62500:36:17.960 --> 00:36:22.199
than itself and resides there again. And the idea here is, yes,62600:36:22.280 --> 00:36:25.599
you want to keep that space constantly clean, but it's62700:36:25.639 --> 00:36:27.480
important if you don't want the spirit to come back,62800:36:27.559 --> 00:36:31.880
that you fill that space with something good. And of62900:36:31.920 --> 00:36:35.079
course biblically we're talking about with the Holy Spirit, right,63000:36:35.400 --> 00:36:38.199
you want to fill it with God. And you know,63100:36:38.320 --> 00:36:39.800
I know we talk to a lot of people who63200:36:41.000 --> 00:36:43.719
gone through something similar and they fill their space with63300:36:43.800 --> 00:36:47.639
positive energy light. They try to remove anything that can63400:36:47.719 --> 00:36:51.440
be negative in their life, whether it's music or movies63500:36:51.599 --> 00:36:55.760
or individuals. So it's very important that if a spirit63600:36:55.840 --> 00:36:57.639
keeps coming back, you need to take a moment and63700:36:57.760 --> 00:37:00.480
check to see what you're filling that empty, swept up63800:37:00.480 --> 00:37:03.960
space with, because if it's with nothing, that spirit will63900:37:04.079 --> 00:37:07.159
continuously come back, find it clean and find a better64000:37:07.159 --> 00:37:11.559
place to rets and.64100:37:11.519 --> 00:37:14.280
We've talked about that a lot over the past years,64200:37:16.000 --> 00:37:20.519
but I can't remember exactly what Kat said where it64300:37:20.639 --> 00:37:27.199
prompted that, but it still kind of holds true, like64400:37:27.519 --> 00:37:32.119
whether you're coming from a Christian perspective or from main's64500:37:32.159 --> 00:37:38.239
mainstream perspective. Sorry, something that I learned this year talking64600:37:38.280 --> 00:37:41.440
to JJ Rose is if you're trying to cleanse a64700:37:41.480 --> 00:37:45.559
house with saging it, let's say, or using some type64800:37:45.559 --> 00:37:51.880
of herb smoke to cleanse the area. I don't remember64900:37:52.000 --> 00:37:55.679
anybody ever telling us this, Maybe I'm just forgetting, but65000:37:55.880 --> 00:38:00.719
she said, open the windows. If you're not open the windows,65100:38:01.079 --> 00:38:06.400
the spirits have nowhere to go. You basically just pushed65200:38:06.480 --> 00:38:09.519
them away from you for the time being, and they65300:38:09.559 --> 00:38:12.280
didn't go anywhere. They were still there, so you didn't65400:38:12.360 --> 00:38:13.159
cleanse the house.65500:38:14.960 --> 00:38:16.320
Yeah, I don't know, Like, I don't know if I65600:38:16.360 --> 00:38:21.320
fully agree with that, but you know, regardless, I think65700:38:21.559 --> 00:38:24.480
the main point here was that there have been individuals65800:38:24.519 --> 00:38:28.920
throughout history, recent history in particular, who have tried to65900:38:28.960 --> 00:38:30.880
cleanse their house and got rid of a spirit for66000:38:30.920 --> 00:38:33.639
a short while and only to find it comes back66100:38:33.719 --> 00:38:36.199
stronger at some point and in their future and most66200:38:36.320 --> 00:38:39.199
times ninety nine percent of those times is because they66300:38:39.199 --> 00:38:41.920
don't feel that void, they just leave it empty. And66400:38:42.000 --> 00:38:44.159
so that spirit always been a fight to come back.66500:38:45.559 --> 00:38:48.360
And that's the main point on my part here, and66600:38:48.400 --> 00:38:50.519
that's I think that's what the conversation was with Kat66700:38:50.880 --> 00:38:53.159
and why I brought that up. It's important that we66800:38:53.239 --> 00:38:57.519
fill our spaces when doing or cleansing, because otherwise it's66900:38:57.639 --> 00:38:59.320
just an open empty space.67000:39:00.920 --> 00:39:01.239
Right.67100:39:02.719 --> 00:39:05.239
All right. This next clip or two clips, and these67200:39:05.239 --> 00:39:08.559
are the last two clips that we have, was Margaret67300:39:08.599 --> 00:39:11.599
and Limbo Holy Guides how to Connect with Them. That67400:39:11.719 --> 00:39:15.719
was the name of the episode. The book was about67500:39:15.840 --> 00:39:19.079
the saints and archangels and how to connect with those67600:39:19.119 --> 00:39:22.559
two to help your daily life. But we'll play these67700:39:22.599 --> 00:39:23.119
real quick.67800:39:23.159 --> 00:39:28.360
Here. Does my own belief system doesn't allow for that?67900:39:28.480 --> 00:39:35.000
It's like not sit the say not today.68000:39:37.119 --> 00:39:39.639
Well, I've already heard that phrase.68100:39:39.760 --> 00:39:41.239
It's like I love that.68200:39:46.239 --> 00:39:48.760
Well, I think also like be going off of that68300:39:49.840 --> 00:39:53.400
belief system. But well, just your own personal beliefs, your faith. Uh,68400:39:54.239 --> 00:39:56.400
it's actually scripturally based, you know.68500:39:56.519 --> 00:39:59.199
The Lord says that when we pray about something, we68600:39:59.199 --> 00:40:02.960
should believe we've already received it. Uh, And so believing68700:40:03.519 --> 00:40:06.880
that like for example, we're surrounded by a bright light68800:40:06.920 --> 00:40:10.039
that protects us from negative energies or believing that negative68900:40:10.119 --> 00:40:14.000
energy can't influence or walk into our territory because of69000:40:14.039 --> 00:40:16.320
the spirits that are with us or the Holy Spirit.69100:40:17.719 --> 00:40:19.840
And I think a lot of people they have this69200:40:19.920 --> 00:40:21.079
idea like if you just.69300:40:23.719 --> 00:40:25.679
And sorry, I cut you off.69400:40:27.159 --> 00:40:28.199
Now I'm offensivespense.69500:40:28.760 --> 00:40:31.920
Remember, well you have to go back and let's the69600:40:32.039 --> 00:40:34.360
or listen to the episode. Now, all right, here's the69700:40:34.400 --> 00:40:35.280
second clip here.69800:40:37.159 --> 00:40:39.599
Now for people, let's just say, who are just starting69900:40:40.119 --> 00:40:44.199
with wanting to reach out to our chantrosource saints, but70000:40:44.239 --> 00:40:46.360
they don't really know how to start, where to start70100:40:46.480 --> 00:40:48.559
or what particular angel to reach out to you. And70200:40:48.639 --> 00:40:51.679
let's just say they don't have your book to guide them.70300:40:52.239 --> 00:40:54.119
How does one actually go about Is it just research70400:40:54.199 --> 00:40:58.119
or do they go ahead and like, uh, just ask70500:40:58.239 --> 00:41:02.360
anything to any one who's listening, or like, how would70600:41:02.360 --> 00:41:04.360
you guide them in that situation?70700:41:06.039 --> 00:41:09.840
So I wouldn't ask anything to anyone who has just70800:41:10.000 --> 00:41:12.119
happened to maybe listening, because you don't know who you're70900:41:12.119 --> 00:41:12.760
calling out to.71000:41:13.599 --> 00:41:16.320
I would I would say potentially a little.71100:41:16.039 --> 00:41:20.880
Bit of research would help to or are looking toward71200:41:21.280 --> 00:41:25.960
to someone else who has the experience or knowledge or71300:41:26.000 --> 00:41:29.000
the connection with the divine that they could find, you know,71400:41:29.039 --> 00:41:32.960
with maybe a spiritual teacher who is authentic that might71500:41:33.000 --> 00:41:36.400
be able to guide them how to reach out.71600:41:36.800 --> 00:41:37.880
But the main and.71700:41:37.880 --> 00:41:42.559
The easiest way, I think is to decide, you know71800:41:42.639 --> 00:41:45.559
what I need help with and then state what it is.71900:41:45.960 --> 00:41:50.800
And I'm asking for only the highest and best energies72000:41:50.840 --> 00:41:54.239
to come and guide me on my journey. I ask72100:41:54.440 --> 00:41:59.079
for the highest level, and only goodness is allowed in72200:41:59.159 --> 00:42:02.679
my space. Only love is allowed on my space. Shine72300:42:02.760 --> 00:42:04.880
light on my path so I can see what I72400:42:04.920 --> 00:42:07.039
need to see or hear what I need to hear,72500:42:07.159 --> 00:42:11.719
know what I need to know, and reveal to me truths.72600:42:11.199 --> 00:42:12.840
And helped me to be a better person.72700:42:12.880 --> 00:42:14.599
And you know, like you kind of it's like you're72800:42:14.639 --> 00:42:17.320
just talking to a good friend, but you can't see them.72900:42:17.360 --> 00:42:21.599
They're not fair, you know, turned to us and that's73000:42:21.639 --> 00:42:23.599
how I would go about it personally.73100:42:26.119 --> 00:42:28.039
So the one thing I really loved about that is73200:42:28.320 --> 00:42:31.559
she kind of are like you mentioned earlier, kind of73300:42:31.599 --> 00:42:34.679
confirmed well, you can't really know what you can set73400:42:34.719 --> 00:42:40.239
the intention of this is what I want. As far73500:42:40.280 --> 00:42:44.960
as talking to spirits or angels and saints for that matter,73600:42:47.280 --> 00:42:52.039
and you mentioned it earlier. Do we really know what73700:42:52.079 --> 00:42:55.679
we're talking to here? And truthfully we don't. We know73800:42:55.760 --> 00:42:58.239
what we think it is, but we don't know for sure.73900:42:58.880 --> 00:43:01.239
That's testing her these little test as to what you74000:43:01.239 --> 00:43:04.000
would say if I said you just called to anything anybody.74100:43:05.599 --> 00:43:07.480
So so now you're testing the spirits.74200:43:07.760 --> 00:43:10.119
No no, it's tested. No no, no, no, I know74300:43:10.480 --> 00:43:14.760
it's in the Bible, test the spirits. I'm just wasn't74400:43:14.800 --> 00:43:18.239
testing her. But it's funny when we have these questions,74500:43:18.239 --> 00:43:20.679
because these are things we we we write up for74600:43:21.119 --> 00:43:25.119
primarily for for for you guys, listing like questions that74700:43:25.199 --> 00:43:27.559
you may have or sometimes it's questions that you guys74800:43:27.559 --> 00:43:29.880
do have, uh, And so we we always try to74900:43:29.880 --> 00:43:34.679
state them and sometimes the life of a better term75000:43:34.840 --> 00:43:40.840
in the most nuanced or low key, kind of simplistic way, right,75100:43:42.159 --> 00:43:44.440
because you want the answers want to know exactly what75200:43:44.480 --> 00:43:46.400
the answer is. And if we beat around the bush75300:43:46.480 --> 00:43:49.400
that we listened on some of those important details that75400:43:49.480 --> 00:43:54.920
I think are simply needed, especially within this particular environment75500:43:54.920 --> 00:43:58.079
that we all kind of live in with paranormal Right.75600:43:59.679 --> 00:44:02.920
So the last two are honorable mentions here just because75700:44:02.920 --> 00:44:06.800
we really did love them, we just didn't have have75800:44:06.920 --> 00:44:10.679
time to get clips for them. And that was the75900:44:10.920 --> 00:44:14.440
giving UFO News with Christina Gomez. She's got a great76000:44:14.960 --> 00:44:17.360
show on YouTube, to make sure you check her out.76100:44:17.440 --> 00:44:21.719
And that was very close to the time that the76200:44:21.920 --> 00:44:25.920
New Jersey drones had kind of what the government called,76300:44:26.519 --> 00:44:29.079
you know, they was debunked. You know, it was I76400:44:29.119 --> 00:44:34.440
forget what they were saying it was according to but76500:44:34.840 --> 00:44:37.400
it was good to get her perspective on that because76600:44:37.800 --> 00:44:42.639
she is literally reporting on this. I don't know if76700:44:42.679 --> 00:44:46.960
it's daily or weekly, but awesome guest.76800:44:47.840 --> 00:44:47.960
Uh.76900:44:48.239 --> 00:44:51.360
The other one that we had was The Bad Vibes77000:44:51.440 --> 00:44:56.360
Field Guide with Devin Hunter and m Bellinger and I77100:44:56.400 --> 00:44:59.599
think I can speak for Eric and you can cut77200:44:59.599 --> 00:45:03.480
me off. I'm wrong. But m Beallenger was one that77300:45:03.519 --> 00:45:07.400
we've been wanting on for years. I think literally when77400:45:07.400 --> 00:45:13.679
we started with Nightstalks that we wanted her on. And77500:45:13.719 --> 00:45:17.039
we wanted her on because she she had Donne documentaries77600:45:17.079 --> 00:45:20.280
about being a psychic vampire and the difference between you know,77700:45:20.480 --> 00:45:24.440
the the vampire we don't war and what a psychic77800:45:24.559 --> 00:45:27.360
vampire is. But to get her on to talk about77900:45:27.360 --> 00:45:30.960
the Bad Vibes Field Guide, which she was actually only78000:45:31.039 --> 00:45:34.880
kind of the forward for that book, but it was78100:45:34.920 --> 00:45:37.079
awesome to talk to both Devin and her together.78200:45:37.440 --> 00:45:40.119
Yeah, for sure, that definitely one of the big holets78300:45:40.159 --> 00:45:43.960
for for us and definitely a something to check off78400:45:43.960 --> 00:45:47.039
the Bucalist getting her in a conversation on the show.78500:45:47.800 --> 00:45:53.719
Right. So question for you, now, Okay, are there any78600:45:53.920 --> 00:45:58.360
I put stories but topics that kind of crossed from78700:45:58.400 --> 00:46:00.800
fringe into mainstream this year for us?78800:46:01.519 --> 00:46:07.360
From fringe into mainstream, mean aside from the whole I mean,78900:46:07.360 --> 00:46:09.000
we were to talk about the AI, so I'm gonna79000:46:09.039 --> 00:46:12.280
go into that, but because that's you know, obviously we're79100:46:12.280 --> 00:46:17.000
down with Terminator and Judgment Day type stuff here, but79200:46:17.280 --> 00:46:19.199
you know, there's I mean, there were quite a few79300:46:19.199 --> 00:46:22.360
things over all that I think kind of jumped from79400:46:22.360 --> 00:46:24.840
the fringe to the mainstream. And the biggest thing again79500:46:24.960 --> 00:46:28.000
is going to comp right back to the UFOs. You know,79600:46:28.039 --> 00:46:30.079
these are things that we've always speculated on, things that79700:46:30.079 --> 00:46:32.519
you see, but never had clear evidence of, and now79800:46:32.559 --> 00:46:38.599
we're getting full on video by government officials that are79900:46:39.320 --> 00:46:41.960
straight up claiming that, yes, these are things that we80000:46:42.000 --> 00:46:44.159
do not understand and we don't know what they are,80100:46:43.840 --> 00:46:45.840
and they're not us territory, and that's wherever you know,80200:46:45.920 --> 00:46:49.039
they are not human. So I think that is very80300:46:49.559 --> 00:46:52.519
intriguing that happened just I mean the last couple of years,80400:46:52.519 --> 00:46:55.159
but this year it particular, was really big on it,80500:46:56.159 --> 00:46:57.840
so that I think that was the biggest thing that80600:46:57.920 --> 00:47:00.000
kind of made that final jump, And I think it's80700:47:00.079 --> 00:47:03.760
only a matter of time before we do finally get80800:47:03.840 --> 00:47:08.039
that official like hey, we're here type of thing, right,80900:47:09.159 --> 00:47:11.280
and then people get started to get adopted and we81000:47:11.320 --> 00:47:13.800
have these lot eatings coming on and the people shooting81100:47:13.880 --> 00:47:21.559
things and blowing stuff up. Right, Sorry, I started to81200:47:21.559 --> 00:47:25.639
think about Mars attacks, but yeah, you know, I think81300:47:25.639 --> 00:47:28.559
that was the biggest thing for sure. The second that81400:47:28.679 --> 00:47:34.280
kind of started to move was the idea of what's81500:47:34.320 --> 00:47:39.800
it called the loboo dolls. Dolls you know, we talked81600:47:39.800 --> 00:47:44.159
about talked about the god that it's supposedly based off of,81700:47:44.840 --> 00:47:46.599
and that is very fringe and it's something that we81800:47:46.639 --> 00:47:50.119
don't have any actual true evidence of, a physical evidence of.81900:47:50.440 --> 00:47:55.159
We know his story through history books, through bio just texts. Uh.82000:47:55.239 --> 00:47:59.840
And then the fact that it's making this interesting kind82100:47:59.840 --> 00:48:03.199
of do as a toy and I'm not saying that82200:48:03.239 --> 00:48:08.599
this toy is based off you know, this particular demon,82300:48:08.920 --> 00:48:12.679
but the similarities are pretty close. So you know, I think, guys,82400:48:12.920 --> 00:48:15.880
the second thing that really kind of jumped from fringe82500:48:15.920 --> 00:48:18.599
to reality for us this year the possibility that there82600:48:18.639 --> 00:48:20.840
is something working on the other side to get its82700:48:21.079 --> 00:48:24.559
image shown and maybe even warships.82800:48:25.199 --> 00:48:29.800
Yeah, and I was gonna bring up what I was82900:48:29.800 --> 00:48:32.719
talking about earlier at this particular thing, but I'm actually83000:48:32.760 --> 00:48:35.039
gonna bring it up in just a few minutes here,83100:48:36.079 --> 00:48:41.920
but dispense. But yeah, I think the biggest thing for83200:48:42.599 --> 00:48:48.639
I think was that that UFO drone thing that happened83300:48:48.639 --> 00:48:50.840
at the end of last year, going into this year83400:48:50.880 --> 00:48:58.960
and getting the government's explanation and really thinking back to83500:48:59.360 --> 00:49:03.880
the Roswell incident and where it was kind of a83600:49:03.920 --> 00:49:08.039
backpedal thing then to where oh it's a UFI, No,83700:49:08.519 --> 00:49:12.599
it's a weather blue right, So that's I think that's83800:49:12.639 --> 00:49:14.480
where it kind of crossed over.83900:49:14.320 --> 00:49:18.039
For me, different time, but same story. It's all right over.84000:49:23.400 --> 00:49:26.480
So some of the stuff that we've talked about that84100:49:27.679 --> 00:49:32.840
is maybe repeating or overlapping entity symbols, locations. Was there84200:49:32.880 --> 00:49:35.559
anything that we covered this year or that you've noticed84300:49:35.599 --> 00:49:39.599
in mainstream media when it comes to the paranormal that84400:49:39.840 --> 00:49:40.840
kind of overlapped.84500:49:42.079 --> 00:49:47.760
Nothing that really overlapped all that much. There. There were84600:49:47.840 --> 00:49:52.800
probably a couple of locations that were repeated, primarily in84700:49:52.920 --> 00:49:59.239
terms of hauntings and investigations. Was the trying to render84800:49:59.280 --> 00:50:00.880
the name of the w one book. Actually it was84900:50:00.880 --> 00:50:03.199
a hund up of phase on Fox something Fox out85000:50:03.239 --> 00:50:08.199
Hunting on Fox Hollow. I think something like that with Richard, Yes,85100:50:08.519 --> 00:50:10.880
the person that had popped up actually a couple of85200:50:10.960 --> 00:50:14.000
times throughout the year that I had noticed not just85300:50:14.079 --> 00:50:16.719
with him and all show, but I've seen that.85400:50:16.599 --> 00:50:20.280
Particular story pop up elsewhere as well online, and I85500:50:20.280 --> 00:50:24.400
thought that was pretty intriguing in herself and pretty significant.85600:50:24.880 --> 00:50:29.039
Uh And aside from that, there wasn't too too much85700:50:29.119 --> 00:50:32.119
overall symbols. I can't really say there were many there,85800:50:33.480 --> 00:50:35.960
you know. There again, there's there's plenty of people starting85900:50:35.960 --> 00:50:42.199
to delve into various new practice new wage practices, and86000:50:42.360 --> 00:50:45.119
by new wage you could being old age right, depending86100:50:45.119 --> 00:50:47.679
on the practice. Uh. So, you know, we we we've86200:50:47.679 --> 00:50:51.199
seen some symbols like the the five pointed star kind86300:50:51.199 --> 00:50:55.239
of pop back up again quite a bit. Uh, you know,86400:50:55.320 --> 00:51:00.039
the Pentacle or the Pentagram, both versions upside down. I86500:51:00.079 --> 00:51:03.159
haven't read it whatever, all of them. And then, of86600:51:03.159 --> 00:51:05.639
course we had some recurring thornes even with the Crucifix,86700:51:05.719 --> 00:51:09.079
the cross, the various ways that it was created and86800:51:09.199 --> 00:51:12.039
used throughout history that came up a few times on86900:51:12.079 --> 00:51:15.280
our show in terms of symbolism and how those symbols87000:51:15.280 --> 00:51:19.440
have been used over time, such as the mending of87100:51:20.039 --> 00:51:24.119
the original Son of God of Ireland and the Christian87200:51:24.199 --> 00:51:27.960
Crucifix to create the comfort Cross.87300:51:28.400 --> 00:51:31.639
Okay, now this one we've already kind of talked about,87400:51:31.840 --> 00:51:34.840
but I wanted to bring this up. You know, technology,87500:51:34.840 --> 00:51:39.840
AI and paranormal overlap. We have gone into great lengths87600:51:39.880 --> 00:51:42.639
at the beginning of the episode about AI. But something87700:51:42.639 --> 00:51:45.400
I did this year earlier this year, I don't remember87800:51:45.400 --> 00:51:47.559
if I told you this. I think I did, but87900:51:47.599 --> 00:51:52.440
maybe I didn't. I was literally having a full conversation88000:51:52.599 --> 00:51:56.840
with AI and I said, look, if I wanted to88100:51:57.119 --> 00:52:01.679
use AI as a tool for doing paranormal investigations, what88200:52:01.719 --> 00:52:04.559
would that look like. So we were having this conversation88300:52:06.000 --> 00:52:09.320
saying that it can analyze audio, you know, stuff like that,88400:52:09.440 --> 00:52:12.480
and but my thought was, well, why can't you do88500:52:13.199 --> 00:52:16.960
something like, instead of using a medium, instead of using88600:52:17.199 --> 00:52:20.840
a spirit box, what if you set the parameters to88700:52:21.000 --> 00:52:24.119
AI in an investigation and it could just be you88800:52:24.119 --> 00:52:27.079
don't even have to present it as evidence, just be like, look,88900:52:27.440 --> 00:52:31.920
I want you to listen after I do or say89000:52:31.960 --> 00:52:35.800
a question and see what comes up. And it said89100:52:36.360 --> 00:52:39.280
it basically said I would love to do this experiment89200:52:39.360 --> 00:52:43.880
with you. So I think in a sense, since we89300:52:43.920 --> 00:52:49.920
were talking about AIS tool, that maybe that is a89400:52:50.599 --> 00:52:56.719
very valual the very value value value. God, I haven't89500:52:56.760 --> 00:53:03.960
had that much strong valuable tool to have where I mean,89600:53:04.199 --> 00:53:06.760
if you want to have a medium in your team,89700:53:07.639 --> 00:53:13.280
that's fine, but use AI. Give the give the medium89800:53:13.280 --> 00:53:17.559
a break, give some of the other pieces of equipment89900:53:17.559 --> 00:53:21.239
of break and see what AI comes up with. And90000:53:21.280 --> 00:53:24.639
it again. You know, it's one of those things where90100:53:25.639 --> 00:53:29.480
AI might put a certain part of the team out90200:53:29.480 --> 00:53:36.079
of out of business because it's analyzing the audio for you.90300:53:36.119 --> 00:53:37.000
Any thoughts on that.90400:53:38.079 --> 00:53:41.079
I mean, nothing too crazy that I agree with you.90500:53:41.280 --> 00:53:43.400
I think it could definitely be utilized as a tool,90600:53:43.400 --> 00:53:45.119
but I think we still need to be very careful90700:53:45.199 --> 00:53:47.840
with using it. In not a sense that we shouldn't90800:53:47.840 --> 00:53:51.360
trust AI, but the more that we use some of90900:53:51.360 --> 00:53:54.639
these tools that we can't use the evidence, then the91000:53:54.679 --> 00:53:58.519
less evidence are actually gaining. Like it's one thing, especially91100:53:58.599 --> 00:54:01.920
our investigations, but for you personally, I think it's great91200:54:02.039 --> 00:54:04.320
because you can use that as evidence for yourself, but91300:54:04.360 --> 00:54:08.400
if it's for a client, you can't really produce or91400:54:08.480 --> 00:54:11.280
show that evidence to them. You can't really get it.91500:54:11.320 --> 00:54:13.639
And like this is what AI says, and take it91600:54:13.679 --> 00:54:17.400
as back right, So much like with.91700:54:17.159 --> 00:54:21.159
With the the sparate box, something we don't typically use91800:54:21.280 --> 00:54:26.800
to present evidence or as presented evidence, I think and91900:54:26.920 --> 00:54:29.639
keep our our tools.92000:54:31.159 --> 00:54:34.360
Use sparingly, but in an equal fashion as well.92100:54:35.079 --> 00:54:44.400
Right now, we both have a healthy skepticism when it92200:54:44.400 --> 00:54:49.440
comes to the paranormal. Is there anything we've learned in92300:54:49.480 --> 00:54:51.239
the past year using that?92400:54:54.920 --> 00:54:59.480
I think the big thing is that our skepticism prevents92500:54:59.559 --> 00:55:05.719
us from being gullible. You know, we we know several92600:55:05.760 --> 00:55:08.480
people at least where I met several people throughout the92700:55:08.559 --> 00:55:11.159
year that tend to be so gullible on some of92800:55:11.159 --> 00:55:14.840
these things that they just broadcast everything is fact, only92900:55:14.880 --> 00:55:19.960
it'll later be confused as to why that fact is93000:55:20.000 --> 00:55:23.679
then smashed with a truth. Right. What they think is93100:55:23.760 --> 00:55:28.000
factors with the truth and so I think skepticism has93200:55:28.000 --> 00:55:31.039
always played a very important part for us for our93300:55:31.079 --> 00:55:33.800
study of the paranormal, because it's one thing to be93400:55:33.880 --> 00:55:38.079
skeptic and say, oh I was wrong, this thing is real. Right,93500:55:38.480 --> 00:55:40.440
we're just saying, oh, no, I'm one hundred percent list93600:55:40.639 --> 00:55:43.519
is real, and then we go, no, we're wrong. Here's93700:55:43.519 --> 00:55:46.280
the evidence of prove it. So you know, if nothing93800:55:46.320 --> 00:55:50.760
else at least protects our pride at the very least,93900:55:50.800 --> 00:56:04.639
So for sure you're finally wrapping things up kind of94000:56:04.639 --> 00:56:09.000
here where we're being close to the end. Here is why, really,94100:56:09.000 --> 00:56:12.800
why is uncertainty a part of the journey?94200:56:14.519 --> 00:56:16.679
I think, well, I mean, I think the biggest thing94300:56:16.719 --> 00:56:19.760
for that is, you know, if you're not questioning stuff,94400:56:22.840 --> 00:56:29.480
then being in the paranormal is gonna be a very94500:56:29.519 --> 00:56:34.800
hard time for you because there's gonna be numerous times94600:56:35.119 --> 00:56:39.199
that you're uncertain that you heard something in an EVP.94700:56:40.639 --> 00:56:47.719
You know, you were uncertain what a picture was. But94800:56:48.159 --> 00:56:51.000
that's how you learn and grow as a paranormal investigator94900:56:51.119 --> 00:56:57.960
is learning how to debunk those things. The same thing95000:56:58.000 --> 00:57:02.000
goes for UFO sings, you know, stuff like that too,95100:57:02.280 --> 00:57:05.960
or like we mentioned earlier, the videos that have come95200:57:06.000 --> 00:57:08.599
out over the past year. In the past couple of years,95300:57:09.800 --> 00:57:11.679
there have been so many videos I've sent to you95400:57:11.880 --> 00:57:14.920
and you're like, yeah, no, you can see this or95500:57:14.960 --> 00:57:18.440
that where the normal person would not see it compared95600:57:18.480 --> 00:57:23.039
to somebody who's studied video as you have.95700:57:23.800 --> 00:57:26.239
Right, Yeah, No, I think on such dy is definitely95800:57:26.320 --> 00:57:32.039
important in the journey for any paranormal investigator, simply because95900:57:32.239 --> 00:57:35.599
it keeps you asking questions and to ask questions, you know,96000:57:36.199 --> 00:57:40.880
that's the whole point. We are scientists at heart, maybe96100:57:40.920 --> 00:57:44.000
not what the world things as scientists, but we are96200:57:44.000 --> 00:57:47.000
paras scientists, and it's fortunate to ask questions in order96300:57:47.039 --> 00:57:49.840
to find answers. With all we have our answers, then96400:57:49.880 --> 00:57:55.639
we learn nothing, so and better you know, to keep learning,96500:57:55.639 --> 00:57:57.400
then to look like a fool who thinks he knows96600:57:57.440 --> 00:58:08.440
everything and learns it, you know, not thing say, yeah, the.96700:58:08.320 --> 00:58:10.480
Only reason I laugh is because like some of the96800:58:10.519 --> 00:58:14.880
explanations you give, it's like it's very insightful, but we96900:58:14.960 --> 00:58:16.039
took a really long time.97000:58:18.280 --> 00:58:23.039
I don't yeh. That's the thing. That's what everybody concert for,97100:58:23.159 --> 00:58:29.239
right Nope. So one thing that we just want to97200:58:29.280 --> 00:58:33.360
do here is really invite everybody listening to the Parachieper97300:58:33.440 --> 00:58:36.519
community to help shape what's next for our show as97400:58:36.519 --> 00:58:39.679
you move into twenty twenty six, the new year. We97500:58:39.800 --> 00:58:44.000
have roughly fifty two new episodes on the block right97600:58:44.000 --> 00:58:46.960
over the next year, so there are plenty of spaces97700:58:47.000 --> 00:58:50.519
open that we have not lockdown. So if anybody has97800:58:50.599 --> 00:58:53.880
any ideas for guests or topics that they want to97900:58:53.920 --> 00:58:56.280
hear about on this show, please feel free to reach98000:58:56.320 --> 00:59:00.840
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We will see those and we'll probably get back to98300:59:06.239 --> 00:59:09.880
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there everything is ext everything is that we put in98800:59:27.079 --> 00:59:31.880
there is exclusive TV individuals in that group, so we98900:59:31.960 --> 00:59:36.960
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it's a good place to be.99500:59:49.960 --> 00:59:52.119
Absolutely, Like, one of the biggest things that we did99600:59:52.159 --> 00:59:58.000
that was not shared on our normal social medias that99700:59:58.039 --> 01:00:00.920
we did there was the lower cards for our Christmas episode.99801:00:01.320 --> 01:00:05.559
So we will start doing more exclusives for that and99901:00:06.480 --> 01:00:10.880
at some point maybe well we'll do a subscription thing too,100001:00:10.920 --> 01:00:13.320
But right now we are offering it free to everybody,100101:00:13.679 --> 01:00:16.639
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But at some point we do have to fund the show,100301:00:20.119 --> 01:00:22.360
but we won't go there until we have to.100401:00:22.599 --> 01:00:25.880
With us said, if you get in free, you stay100501:00:25.920 --> 01:00:28.000
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Now absolutely so. I do want to give two quick101001:00:39.239 --> 01:00:42.880
shout outs. One is to Catward, who listens to our101101:00:42.920 --> 01:00:47.840
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our shows but all the shows for UPR and network,101501:01:00.599 --> 01:01:06.199
And I really really want to make clear that we101601:01:06.280 --> 01:01:09.440
love all of our listeners. But those two have gone101701:01:09.599 --> 01:01:11.760
above and beyond. So if you want to hear a101801:01:11.800 --> 01:01:14.639
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little bit easier to do a poll. Where we on102201:01:28.760 --> 01:01:30.639
our other social media is it's a little more like102301:01:30.679 --> 01:01:36.599
a comment, you know, comment on every episode so we102401:01:36.719 --> 01:01:41.119
know what you liked didn't like, because we can't grow102501:01:41.199 --> 01:01:44.039
as a show without those, and email us throughout the102601:01:44.119 --> 01:01:47.719
year if you have ideas for episodes, if you have102701:01:47.800 --> 01:01:49.880
comments and you don't want to put it on social media.102801:01:51.039 --> 01:01:55.360
Paratruth Video gmail dot com. Yes, it's that Paratrue. You're102901:01:55.400 --> 01:02:00.199
born because we rebranded and we had a solid email there.103001:02:02.000 --> 01:02:06.519
Make sure you submit your own theories as well, because103101:02:07.119 --> 01:02:08.920
we can talk to her blue in the face about103201:02:08.960 --> 01:02:12.480
certain topics, but without the interaction from you guys, and103301:02:12.840 --> 01:02:15.280
maybe even call us out if we had something wrong.103401:02:15.360 --> 01:02:18.679
Please call us out, because we can't grow as hosts103501:02:18.880 --> 01:02:26.000
until we have your interaction. We'll have you guys vote103601:02:26.039 --> 01:02:28.559
on future topics as well. We've kind of done that103701:02:28.599 --> 01:02:30.920
with poll once and maybe that's the best way to103801:02:30.960 --> 01:02:34.559
do it and share your personal experiences. It can be103901:02:34.639 --> 01:02:38.559
anonymous if you want us to share your name, even104001:02:38.639 --> 01:02:40.920
if it's just your first name. If you just want104101:02:40.960 --> 01:02:47.000
to give us a pseudonym, that's totally fine too. But104201:02:47.119 --> 01:02:53.320
we really, really really love our listeners, and without our paratruthers,104301:02:53.400 --> 01:02:56.360
this show does not work. Half of what we do104401:02:56.679 --> 01:03:01.760
is to talk about that come from you, guys, So104501:03:02.400 --> 01:03:06.159
reach out, let us know what you guys are wanting.104601:03:07.480 --> 01:03:11.639
I think that with that being said, is there any104701:03:11.679 --> 01:03:16.000
final thoughts or expectations for twenty twenty six?104801:03:16.280 --> 01:03:18.920
Not just to keep moving being forward, just keep on,104901:03:19.199 --> 01:03:23.480
you know, opening well carefully, opening doors and learning new shoes.105001:03:25.840 --> 01:03:28.719
Let's not open that we already have done already.105101:03:28.760 --> 01:03:32.119
Anyways, I think, I think, I think twenty twenty six105201:03:32.199 --> 01:03:34.400
is gonna be a big year for the Paranormal and105301:03:34.400 --> 01:03:36.760
we're gonna have a lot of great guests joining us.105401:03:36.760 --> 01:03:40.199
We have some returning and we'll have some new faces105501:03:40.199 --> 01:03:43.199
as well, so plenty to look forward to, plenty will learn,105601:03:43.679 --> 01:03:46.000
and again we would love to get some of our105701:03:46.000 --> 01:03:48.280
guests on the show too, or guy, sorry, some of105801:03:48.280 --> 01:03:51.320
our listeners on the show as well. If now we105901:03:51.400 --> 01:03:54.000
know you guys all have your own views and opinions106001:03:54.079 --> 01:03:57.000
on the paranormal we'd love to hear them right here live.106101:03:57.159 --> 01:03:59.960
So if that's something interested, again reach out to us.106201:04:00.079 --> 01:04:02.280
But again, it's gonna be a great year, totally six106301:04:02.559 --> 01:04:05.000
happy to everybody, and I hope it's a safe one106401:04:05.000 --> 01:04:05.440
for you all.106501:04:07.079 --> 01:04:09.280
Yeah, and I will piggy back off that if you106601:04:09.360 --> 01:04:13.320
want to kind of voice your opinion and you don't106701:04:13.320 --> 01:04:15.960
want to necessarily be on the show with us. If106801:04:15.960 --> 01:04:18.440
you go to our website, there is a voicemail message106901:04:18.679 --> 01:04:21.360
system on there as well. Leave us as voicemail, tell107001:04:21.400 --> 01:04:25.079
us if it's okay to share it. If it's something personal,107101:04:25.360 --> 01:04:28.159
please make sure you leave out names of people and107201:04:28.599 --> 01:04:32.679
places and events unless you have specific authorization to do so.107301:04:34.639 --> 01:04:38.519
But that's one of those things where it's like we107401:04:38.519 --> 01:04:40.360
would love to have you on as a guest, of course,107501:04:40.719 --> 01:04:43.840
but if it's uncomfortable for you, absolutely we can make107601:04:43.880 --> 01:04:50.440
it work otherwise. And yeah, keep it safe this New year.107701:04:51.360 --> 01:04:54.199
If you're drinking, please make sure you get a ride,107801:04:55.880 --> 01:04:58.039
make sure you're with loved ones. This is one of107901:04:58.119 --> 01:05:00.920
the most depressing times of the year for many people,108001:05:01.440 --> 01:05:05.519
so definitely reach out to You can reach out to108101:05:05.880 --> 01:05:07.800
people that are close to you reach out to us.108201:05:08.239 --> 01:05:12.639
We would be glad to talk stuff through with you.108301:05:15.159 --> 01:05:21.639
But yeah, normally I play all lags sign for copyright purposes.108401:05:21.639 --> 01:05:26.559
I won't do it this year, but until next week108501:05:26.880 --> 01:05:30.239
and next year, where you will find the same time,108601:05:30.719 --> 01:05:34.400
same channel. My name is Justin and I'm Eric Peace
