Dec. 31, 2025

The Year The Veil Thinned: A ParaTruth Year-In-Review

The Year The Veil Thinned: A ParaTruth Year-In-Review

This year, the strange didn’t slow down—it escalated. From chilling encounters and unexplained sightings to cultural shifts that made the paranormal feel closer than ever, ParaTruth: Reborn looks back at the moments that mattered most. Justin &...

This year, the strange didn’t slow down—it escalated.

From chilling encounters and unexplained sightings to cultural shifts that made the paranormal feel closer than ever, ParaTruth: Reborn looks back at the moments that mattered most. Justin & Erik break down the biggest stories, recurring themes, and listener experiences that shaped the year—and ask the bigger question: What is all of this building toward?

If you’ve felt like the veil is thinning… you’re not alone. This is your guide through the signals, patterns, and unanswered questions that defined the year in the paranormal.

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Thanks for listening!

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This year didn't just give us more paranormal stories. It

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gave us patterns, repeating symbols, familiar warnings, and moments that

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made even skeptics pause. Tonight, we're not chasing just one mystery.

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We're looking at the year the bail delt dinner than ever. Welcome, well, go,

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well do Paratrue? What's up everybody? And welcome to Parachute Reborn.

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My name is Eric and I'm justin.

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And today is efficiently our New Year episode. This is

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something we look forward to every single year, kind of

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accumulating everything in the end while looking forward to the

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near future here as move in to twenty twenty six,

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which is crazy to think about that we're already here

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right twenty six. I feel like yesterday we hit twenty

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twenty five.

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Well, I was, you know, reviewing all this stuff because

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this is a little bit different than what we usually do.

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We never have done like a best of the Year

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or anything, but looking back and I'm like, holy crap,

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that was this year. Holy crap, that was this year.

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And I'm like it felt like it went by super

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fast but also really slow at the same time, because

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there were so many episodes that I remember we did,

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but I thought they were last.

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Year, right, Yeah, you know, it's it's really been one

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of those years where time ceased to kind of exist.

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the same time, there was so much happening that everything

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slowed down. But it's crazy that we're here. And so

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we're going to celebrate tonight by kind of going over

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a year in review. We're going to share a little

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bit about some of our favorite paranormal moments as well

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as some of our favorite shows, and discuss a little

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bit and the things that we've learned or that had

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us question throughout the year. But first and foremost, justin

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I want to ask you, why does this year fail?

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Or why did this year feel different than the past years?

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Because it was a little different and seemed.

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Well. I think JJ Rose really put it in the

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perspective where she was talking about that the veil, where

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normally it is thinnest during you know, between that October

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and December, she has felt that it's been very very

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thin since last December. It never came back. So I

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feel that something is coming. What no idea is the

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veil going to drop? Are we going to start just

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all seeing spirits and entities and stuff like that. No clue.

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But I mean, we talked about this with Michelle and

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Tim on our Simpsons episode that you know, how many

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times have I said in the past couple of years,

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now several years that something's off. I woke up, something's off.

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I don't know what it is, can't pinpoint what it is,

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but something is different. So and the other part is

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the curtain regime that we have in the government right now.

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I think that has put a lot of people on edge.

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Doesn't help matters at all as far as the other stuff.

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But that's mostly my take on it.

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grand number of people who kind of felt the same

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way as you, where they would wake up and just

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feel like something was off, but not quite be able

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to put a finger on it. We all know if

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it was a change and the energy and the change

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of the atmosphere, it was the veil thinning or thickening,

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even you know, we really just don't know what it was.

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talk to us and share the same feelings and thoughts

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that we had, and that happened a lot this year,

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and it's crazy to think about because there actually was

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a pretty big increase in mainstream paranormal discussion this year.

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off the air with a bang with the UFO incident

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out in New Jersey. That's one of our first episodes

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we talked about in January. I think we have talked

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about it maybe on New Year's Eve episodes last year

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going into twenty twenty five. How just crazy it was

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because that was kind of like, hey boom, we welcome

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to the new year, and then things just kind of

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guy rocketed from.

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or even three episodes about it, at least that one

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talked about on Your Years, and then the episode that

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we chose in our Best.

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Of right, which we will talk about a little later.

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chat about throughout the show today, and we even have

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some clips that were going to be shared with everybody,

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some of our favorite moments from our guests or things

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that we've said as well. The one thing we didn't

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but it's so hard to find sometimes is the comedy roles.

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the mistakes. And you know, my biggest flub last week

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counting four people when there was only three of us

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in the radio, and that was on cat show.

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That wasn't even ours, right, right, that.

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of places said I screw up and have my bloves,

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you know. Yeah, But unfortunately we didn't do that this year. Instead,

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we are just going to be focusing on things that

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really hit hard, because this year was pretty pretty deep

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in terms of discussion. It wasn't just about ghosts and

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monsters like it usually is. We got into healing, We

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got into trauma, talk, got into coping with grief. You know,

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we got deep this year, and not even intentionally, like

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some of these things just came up naturally on the show,

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which is even more incredible because those are things that

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are meant to be discussed then, right, it was just

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meant to play the way that it did. But with

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mainstream paranormal discussion, not just on our show. We've seen

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it all over Facebook, We've seen it on a lot

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of our fellow podcaster shows as well. There are more

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and more people who are interested in the paranormal this year,

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and I can see that only continuing as we're in

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the twenty twenty six. There are younger generations who are

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starting to get into this new age movement and they

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want to know more about spirituality, more about how they

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can practice various crafts or religions, various faiths, and even

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just learned to grow on a supernatural level, if you will.

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But with all of that said, sorry, do you do

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you want to add something?

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Justin Oh, I was just going to say, you know,

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we have heard about, you know, the cultural fatigue and

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supernatural curiosity. Something I think that is really causing that

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cultural fatigue in the paranormal itself is that AI has

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advanced drastically within the last year. I mean, it's advanced

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in the past couple of years, right, right, got the

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wrong two?

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Sorry y'all.

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that are faked by AI? And not that people weren't

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already you know, faking them as it was, but AI

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is making them that much more easier to fake. And

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many AI videos I'm sure all of you have as well.

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I don't know why. It fascinates me. I just to

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see what different people are saying about various content. But

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the amount of people who question whether or not something

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as AI is astronomical because some of these things, I mean,

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some of these things are very clearly AI to me,

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but not to everybody. Like some things just seem so

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realistic now that we kind of mix up, start to

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cross mode reality and you know, things that are fake,

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things that aren't made up, and even I struggle with

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seeing like figure out what's what at times, And.

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you're not going to be able to tell the difference.

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the show, and we were discussing the limitations and how

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it was struggling to grasp a foot. You know, the

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videos coming out, the artwork, the photos were pretty I mean,

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to be honest, they were pretty lame in the beginning. Yeah,

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and now all of a sudden we're questioning what is

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AI and what is it and what's real? What is it? Uh?

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way it's going to continue bluff, it's going to deal traction, Honestly,

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of those glowing snowballs. Right. The further it rolls down

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that hill, the bigger is going to get, the stronger

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impact it's going to have, which is kind of scary

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when you really consider it, because eventually we're not going

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to know what is real, what is not right, or

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what is right right, and that's going to start to

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to figure out what is real and wrong, but also

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to the point of morality. Even Uh, it's gonna it's

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gonna put a lot of things in check for us,

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Well. I mean, I've already had uh ethical conversations with

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about writing and you know my comment was, so long

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a tool, there's no ethical dilemma there if you're starting

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to use it to write full stories for you and

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then claiming they're yours. Stuff like that, And now with

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the video and you can clone somebody's not just voice

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that will literally give you overlays of yourself and different voices.

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sounds like somebody completely different, right, all right?

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past two years actually with the upsurge of AI, because

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especially for people who we don't have the finances to

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maybe higher individuals, certain individuals, say actors or something, or

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artists or something else. And I think it needs to

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be handled very delicately. I think you can't come forward

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and claim it as your own. I know we've seen

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a couple of authors on Amazon who've stepped forward publishing

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a book not indicating that it was written by AI,

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but people who read it learning it was from AI,

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and they're claiming it as their own work. An idea

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that AI and then transformed into a novel, which is

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very different, you know, It's one thing that when you

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full creation, front to back, three hundred pages, et cetera.

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telling you create kids books with this AI and publish

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them and you'll make millions.

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AI yet still not right, not officially, so we can

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get away with quite a bit at the moment, which

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it was also kind of scary because what is the extent,

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you know, how far can we really take AI before

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there's regulations right now? It's not something that I think

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we should all be like, Oh, let's you know, talk

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and run right, get under the tables and hide. There's

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still a long way to go, and there's only so

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much AI is capable of at the moment. But the

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fact that it has grown exponentially all over the last

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three years alone since we started talking about it here

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on the show, it's it's pretty it's pretty scary again,

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it's going to move faster and faster.

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had talked to my chat GPT and said, you know,

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will AI ever become sentient, and it basically said that

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there's basically this fourth wall that you'd have to break

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through for AI to be sentient or at least become sentient. Yes,

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we've had those those conversations where AI was creating its

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own language, talking to itself, where the human programmers couldn't

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understand what it was saying. That's not sentience per se

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because it is. Well, I guess it depends on your

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definition of sentience, because the full definition of sentience means

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self aware and creating your own language to me sounds

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like self aware, but it doesn't necessarily fall into that definition.

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of it and looking at sci fi fiction such as

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Maybe? But it's one of those things where it's like,

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Perhaps so, But I do think there is a future

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somewhere where that is all plausible.

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where AI is taking over some jobs.

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rallies here in northeast Northeast Ohio for some of you downside,

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you might know it as checkers, and they're utilizing AI

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at the drive through where it hates your order, it

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gives you option, it talks to you one on one,

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and it was the weirdest thing trying to given my

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order to do an AI system wasn't talking to a person.

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And then I rolled around there was only two people

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in the entire restaurant. We're actually making the food. But

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how long we've heard that replaced too? Right, They've already

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replaced their cashier using AI, so and you know, we're

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seeing that again happen more and more with various jobs.

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It's a technology that is not only growing, but it's

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taking over, and people are going to have to start

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getting into engineering so they can learn how to fix

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AI in order to keep a job and make money.

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With that said, this has of course grown curiosity not

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only among the science fiction aspect of the possible feature

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that we're gearing towards, but it also opens the door

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to the supernatural and the parablemal because it helps us

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to realize, or at least helps us to answer some

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questions about the things that maybe seem a little spooky,

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a little eerie, something along the lines of ghosts or

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even en cryptids, because those are starting to help us

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to kind of collect evidence. And so people are becoming

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more and more intrigued by the paragormal. Paramal investigations are

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on the uprise. We had to see more and more

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of these little shows or videos popping up on YouTube

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along with the TV itself, you know, Travel Channel in particular.

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an extent. Obviously. I think it's very good that we

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wouldn't be here if it wasn't good, right, we all

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started with curiosity ourselves, right, But I do think that

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there are some people who are jumping into it too

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quick too. They become so curious and get so deep

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that they end up in some sort of trouble, spiritual trouble.

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movie or something where like, oh they're you know, they

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got chained by the spirit. Now they're going to hell. Right,

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it's not Dragged Me a Hell type show. But people

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who of open doors, who didn't know how to open

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them to begin with, then who don't know how to

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close them, who are just kind of being all willy

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nilly because of the idea that the paranormal, though there's

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interest in it, is also kind of like we just

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treat it haphazardly because it's no longer as scary as

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it once was, because we have all these opportunities to

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explore it. You google anything about the paranormal, and the

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first thing that responds to Google is AI and it

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tells you a little little you know, a little download

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of what it thinks or claims ah the paranormal to be,

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and it sends you on a little rabbit trail. And

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I think that's becoming because it's so easy for us

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to do. There are people who just nose diving into

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these things. And yeah, we've talked to a couple of

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people this past year who struggled a bit with the

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supernatural within their own homes.

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Oh kay, I do have a story, but I'm relieve

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before a little bit later because it has to do

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with AI and paranormal.

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Okay, don't forget.

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No, I won't forget because I'm looking at the line

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that I want to bring it up at, So before

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we get too much further on, just because that's not

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what the episode is about.

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We'll have to do another.

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AI episode next year because it is evolving that fast.

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But this year we've got a best of Para Truth

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and this is our selections. We didn't hear from you

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guys on best selections, so we're hoping to get a

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little more engagement next year from you and we're going

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to talk to you about that later on. But first

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and foremost, and this was one of your tops, and

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we chose the same one for the second one, so

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that was really interesting.

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And Mike, I do want to say real quickly, none

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of these are in any particular order. There's not work

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matter right and next day this we just leave them

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in there.

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We were just reviewing them and actually the okay to

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that when we get to it. But so the first

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one was The Truth about Trauma with Lisa Collins. Loved

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talking to Lisa Collins because not only did she talk

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about trauma but also intertwined it into how it pertains

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to the paranormal.

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Right on per This is one of the deep episodes

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that I was talking about at the beginning of the show,

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one of those things we weren't quite ready for despite

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knowing what the book was about. But it was one

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of those refreshing type of moments and just conversations that

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we had that kind of left us, not with more

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questions like the paranormal usually does, but with a refreshing

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answers and a new outlook on life moving forward.

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All right, So we've got two clips for you. I'm

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gonna play them and we can kind of go over

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them a little bit or what our thoughts were when

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we did them. You've kind of touched on it a

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little bit, but in your own words, why is it

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important to normalize conversations about trauma?

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I think right now, especially right now, that we all

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need to like center and ground and know who we are,

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and part of who we're not is whatever trauma we've

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experienced either generationally in our community, and I think right

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now we're really spinning and thinking that we are that right.

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I would love if we could as a people just

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put some of these backpacks down and lean in together.

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All right.

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So that was the first one. What were your thoughts

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on normalizing trauma? You're muted, sorry, had a coffee for that.

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I think that's one of the most important things that

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it comes to trauma, is trying to normalize it. Thing

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we need to do is accept it within ourselves, you know,

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She'll go in to talk a little bit on this

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next clip too, about how we need to don't think

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of like normalizing trauma by talking to other people about

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it and trying to share your trauma with them, but

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to accept it yourself, to accept it internally because it

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helps you to feel middle east and move on. And

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that's something I think a lot of us don't, myself included,

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I struggle to let oh some traumas right.

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And one thing that I didn't find one clip I

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didn't add here also is that she does talk about

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trauma like on a scale of one to ten and

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what is considered trauma, and it really is, no, there's

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no threshold for trauma. It can be as big or

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small as it needs to be. You know, I think

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a lot of people think or have this misillusion that

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trauma must be something that's horrible, right, it's something that

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strikes you like a lighting mote and it just sticks

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you through the rest of your life, and something like

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you know, a death in the family, divorce, something like abuse,

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things like that. But it could be as simple as

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a disagreement. It could be as simple as someone calling

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you a name when you were a kid. It could

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be not handing. You know, as a child, you're not

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getting an ice cream cone that your sister got. Its

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little thing is that can actually stick with you and

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grow into a much larger trauma that you kind of

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hang on to it and it branches out. You know,

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the things stands in one little ball, but they branch

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out into other little systems and next thing you know,

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it's a bit of a problem.

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Yeah, all right, here's the next one from Lisa Colins.

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You're going over to mom, dad or grandma and saying, hey,

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you remember that we did this thing, me acknowledging the

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truth and me healing it within myself, and I just

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want to pull the blinds down of unfortunate experiences or

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things that I did not and me being honest with

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myself and so saying okay, and me being honest with

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myself for you the reader, so that you can say

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it's okay to say this stuff happened.

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It's just about healing it for yourself and moving on.

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So that one is very impactful because it's basically saying

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you need to let the stuff go for trauma to

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be so you can basically forgive people. Is basically what

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I was getting from it. And letting that trauma go

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so you don't have to hold on to it anymore.

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Yeah, I think it's a combination of forgiving people. Well,

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it's also i think primarily forgiving yourself, which allows you to forget.

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Right.

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It's funny because as she was talking there, when you

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play that clip, I'm over here nodding to what she's saying,

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and I see in the clip that I'm nodding as

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you're talking about it. It's still the SKA reaction. But

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you know, Lisa College, she's yes, poor found moments on

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this episode and we had some profound discussions. And one

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of the things that I really loved about this particular

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book is that she wasn't afraid to share her trauma

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with the reader. Right, But she's saying, that's not something

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you need to do as a person who's just struggling

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the trauma. You don't have to share it with others.

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You can keep it to yourself or find a close

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you know, someone close to you, or even a therapist

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who you can maybe talk to in private and secretly,

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who will keep those things tucked away just as you have.

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But I think that's something that's pretty pretty amazing about

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her and her book, and it's one of those books

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that I still think to this day. And this was

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that long ago that we talked to her several months

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at least. But if if you're interested in learning more

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about trauma and how to heal from it, this book

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in particular is fantastic. And we can also just put

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a link here a little later for you guys to

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just check out.

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Yeah, I'll try and link all the videos to this

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video in YouTube or it'll be in the show notes

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for the audio version. All right, So next one, and

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I was so glad you chose this one because I

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loved talking to her. This was Sacred Soaks Unlocking the

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Power of Ritual Baths with Shonda Parkinson, which we will

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actually be getting on again next week, so make sure

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you're saying tune for that. But here is the clip,

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and it kind of ties to trauma.

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He deals with emotion is easily, you know, and so

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really providing yourself that space and saying, okay, for fifteen minutes,

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I'm going to go in. If I have just like

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one release point or if I give myself that space

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just to touch that grief, let myself think about it,

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let myself presence it. It's getting present in that grief space.

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Then I can have a moment to release and the

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water is going to help, the tools are going to

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help release it for the moment that I'm in. You know,

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grief is a journey. It's a process. It's not like

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it's a one and done. That isn't how healing works.

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But we can.

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Give ourselves that space intentionally to deal with grief. Then

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when we're living our lives, if we don't want to

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go there, we don't want to turn towards it, we

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don't want to deal with it on a regular basis,

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we don't want you know, we want to preserve that

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time just for going into a grief space that can

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be really super effective and super cleansing.

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And it's really just building a safe space for you

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to do that, someplace you can be comfortable, totally safe space.

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So the one part about that episode was that was

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all of it was good, but Eric kept going on

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and on with different questions, and he could tell I

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was getting irritated, and he's trying like, Okay, okay, you

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could go.

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Now, yeah, we needn't you know how it is on

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this show, everybody like I get a little hyper and excited,

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and I just keep keep on going. But I just

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don't want to I don't want to lose, you know,

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the opportunity to ask these questions, because it alway feels

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weird to need the backtrack later.

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No, I and I totally get that. We just got

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to come up with the system to be like one.

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Okay, shock collars. Yeah, that that travel from North Dakotta, Ohio. Look,

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we collars.

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Places in an area that's really gonna hurt.

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Right.

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Oh wait, hold on, Matt.

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But the one thing I wanted to say about this was,

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you know it it kind of coincided with the trauma.

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But she's talking about grief and using ritualistic baths to

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do that, which is I mentioned on the episode. In

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order to meditate, I have to to do a bath

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00:27:55.680 --> 00:27:57.799
with sea salt. Now I can't just sit on the

478
00:27:57.839 --> 00:28:00.319
ground and meditate anymore, just because my mind's going hundred

479
00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:01.680
miles a minute.

480
00:28:02.279 --> 00:28:02.599
Mm hm.

481
00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:03.680
No.

482
00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:06.720
I think the fact that she brings up grief again,

483
00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:09.119
as you say, it's a tie into this idea of trauma,

484
00:28:09.160 --> 00:28:12.680
because grief is traumatic. I mean, there are a lot

485
00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:14.839
of things that people have gone through this year, myself

486
00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:18.279
included with the loss of my cat in particular, that

487
00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:22.599
been that was almost effective, and my dog, yeah, with

488
00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:25.680
your dog, and had a couple other pets pass away

489
00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:29.880
as well as our cousin. You know. So it was

490
00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:33.200
a rough year and there are things about grief that

491
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:35.839
still creep up. They still they still haunt us, they

492
00:28:35.880 --> 00:28:37.759
still taunt us, and I'm sure it's the same for

493
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:41.440
the rest of you too who are listening. But the

494
00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:46.799
one thing that you know she brought up again is

495
00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:51.720
this idea of ritual cleansing or ritual bathing. And it

496
00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:55.319
doesn't always have to be done in a bath. It

497
00:28:55.359 --> 00:28:58.200
could be done in a pool and an ocean, under

498
00:28:58.880 --> 00:29:02.880
a water faucet, in a sprinkler. You can even just

499
00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:06.039
imagine drenching yourself in water. Doesn't even have to be

500
00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:10.359
physical water. The simple idea is that you are washing yourself.

501
00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:14.480
You're cleansing yourself through that wash. And the other thing

502
00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:17.200
that you mentionederior like fifteen minutes. It could be as

503
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:20.839
short as five minutes, it could be thirty seconds, whatever

504
00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:23.680
you need in that moment. It doesn't have to be much,

505
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:27.240
but it's a good start and as you build up,

506
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:29.559
you know you might be able to add your own things.

507
00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:32.680
You know, your own herbs, or your own various salts,

508
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:36.359
whatever you want, candles, et cetera. To help make that

509
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:41.119
space more personable, more private, and a little more enjoyable

510
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:46.839
for you. In terms of releasing that, creefuse emotions absolutely

511
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:50.960
all right to save us on some time because we're

512
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:54.400
already halfway through the show already because we got stuck

513
00:29:54.440 --> 00:29:55.279
on AI.

514
00:29:56.400 --> 00:29:59.759
I'm going to mention them play the clips. If we

515
00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:01.720
have any final thoughts at the end of the show,

516
00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:05.759
we'll definitely get back to them. But the next one

517
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:09.079
was one that I did by myself. Eric was on

518
00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:14.680
set somewhere and I had Brian Byers on and he

519
00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:20.279
had two comments about being advice for new paranormal investigators

520
00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:21.400
and about being psychic.

521
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:22.000
So here we go.

522
00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:29.319
For those that want to pursue doing like paranormal investigations,

523
00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:32.359
what's the best piece of advice you could give them?

524
00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:35.640
So that's a really good question. The beginning, I always

525
00:30:35.720 --> 00:30:40.079
was about protecting myself, and I did it differently than

526
00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:41.839
a lot of people. A lot of people used like

527
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:45.000
came out of smudging and stuff like that. Its help

528
00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:47.400
you feel like you're being protected, so it puts you

529
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:51.279
in that frame of mind. So I say protection in

530
00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:55.000
any location, and it's not because something's going to attach

531
00:30:55.079 --> 00:31:00.640
itself to you. It's that your dealer with a lot.

532
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:03.559
On the other side. There's not just human spirits, okay.

533
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:07.559
And when I say that, they're different than we are,

534
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:13.160
and they're not necessarily pleasant, and they like to mess

535
00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:15.319
with you on purpose. And the idea is they're trying

536
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:18.559
to get into your head here a little bit, and

537
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:20.440
they can bring you down from the inside.

538
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:24.440
Holy craps. Stop.

539
00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:28.079
I just remember. I didn't understand, but it was the

540
00:31:28.079 --> 00:31:32.240
word that came through was was the night O. J.

541
00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:34.960
Simpson died or the day O. J. Simpson died. The

542
00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:37.960
seance was over and we closed it out. We looked

543
00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:40.400
up all the information and we found out the news

544
00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:44.200
they had had died. They're like, holy crap. So he

545
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:48.960
died on that same day and then wrote all this stuff,

546
00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:51.559
so you know, it was the last two digits of

547
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:53.839
his Uh. I never forget what it was, but we

548
00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:57.079
were like, there's just too much weirdness there. So when

549
00:31:57.079 --> 00:31:59.440
we went on TikTok and we were I follow a

550
00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:02.039
bunch of other mediums, they were posting the same thing.

551
00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:05.960
OJ came through and said he can't see, and I'm like,

552
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:07.839
that's what I got.

553
00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:08.200
That's what we all.

554
00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:10.079
We were all getting the same thing. It was a

555
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:13.839
really wild kiktok makes it easy to see in real

556
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:15.839
time what everyone else is yo.

557
00:32:19.119 --> 00:32:21.160
So those were two interesting ones.

558
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:25.079
The next fun well, hold on before you go start.

559
00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:28.599
We got plenty of downe here. But one thing that

560
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:30.480
I do want to mention here is he talks about

561
00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:34.640
protection and in the same light we talked about grounding too.

562
00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:37.799
One thing that I noticed over the years is a

563
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:39.200
lot of We've had a lot of people talk to

564
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:42.599
us a lot of meetings, especially so they know the

565
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:46.279
spirits they're talking to, right, And we've always questioned that, like,

566
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:48.279
how do you know it's a bit spirit. I don't

567
00:32:48.240 --> 00:32:52.000
even know it's human spirit. And it's crazy because despite

568
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:53.759
all the people who said they know, they know, they know,

569
00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:56.880
we've seen in the last two years more and more

570
00:32:57.480 --> 00:33:01.480
psychics step forward claiming that you don't always know until

571
00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:04.000
you have to protect yourself. You have to round yourself

572
00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:07.839
because there are other things lurking in the shadows. Aside

573
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:10.799
from the spirit that you're communicating with, there are things

574
00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:12.599
that are attached to human spirits. There are things that

575
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:16.759
kind of travel in the dark spaces of the voids,

576
00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:20.440
and it's something that we always need to be aware of,

577
00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:26.000
especially when we're tracking that type of atmosphere with psychic abilities.

578
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:27.759
For sure.

579
00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:32.759
This next one was actually a throwback Thursday clip that

580
00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:39.039
was an episode we does Paratruth Radio aliens and future humans,

581
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:41.960
but it was a significant clip. So I'll go ahead

582
00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:44.240
and play this for you because we didn't actually re

583
00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:46.200
air this one yet. I don't believe.

584
00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:51.559
This theory was based on some speculation that if we

585
00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:58.079
were to believe Earth and colonize on Mars, then over

586
00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:02.680
time we would through these bursts of microevolution in which

587
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:06.440
our skin tones would change, our bone mass would change,

588
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:12.360
our eyes would even change, becoming larger to let in

589
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:16.320
more light, for example. And so if that's the case,

590
00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:19.400
in these aliens are future versions of us, they would

591
00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:24.400
have had thousands, if not millions of years of evolutionary progress,

592
00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:27.199
both in their bodies and in their technology, which would

593
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:29.000
allow them to come back and visit us. And so

594
00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:31.639
we would technically be living in the past, even though

595
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:34.639
we think it's the present, it's the past of what

596
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:40.679
is to come for us, which is our descendants. Anything

597
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:43.639
with time travel space chavel blows my mind every time

598
00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:46.719
it's being in the past, but yeah, also being in

599
00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:47.559
the present.

600
00:34:47.960 --> 00:34:51.920
What and also you know that kind of ties in.

601
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:54.360
We've done an episode on US two of humans being

602
00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:58.519
from Mars where we would have evolved from the time

603
00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:02.000
we left Mars till here, you know, the opposite way.

604
00:35:03.000 --> 00:35:05.880
Right, whichever aliens is where I got that information from

605
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:11.159
two when we did that initial episode on humans on Mars,

606
00:35:11.559 --> 00:35:13.320
And it's more so again it was more of a

607
00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:19.239
scientific aspect to aliens that exists. Instead of them being

608
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:25.079
a complete different species, they're potentially evolutionary successor to ourselves.

609
00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:27.679
So there's still very much human. The DNA is still

610
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:30.760
human to you know, done in its fine as molecules,

611
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:35.000
but they're different because of these basics that they lived

612
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:36.440
in basically.

613
00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:40.800
Right right, all right? This next one was from the

614
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:43.599
most common questions about the paranormal, and we had our

615
00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:46.519
friend Catward on This was actually a more recent one,

616
00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:48.679
but it was a good one. So here we go.

617
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:53.880
Well, it's funny that you would have to keep plansing, right,

618
00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:58.679
because actually the Bible also touches on that Jesus actually

619
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:03.480
says in twelve three. When in a pure spirit comes

620
00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:06.159
out of a person, it goes through arid spaces or

621
00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:09.480
places seeking rest and does not find it, then it says,

622
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:11.599
I'll return to the house I left, and when it

623
00:36:11.719 --> 00:36:15.119
rives and finds it unoccupied, swept clean and put in order.

624
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:17.880
So then it goes and finds seven more spirits moblica

625
00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:22.199
than itself and resides there again. And the idea here is, yes,

626
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:25.599
you want to keep that space constantly clean, but it's

627
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:27.480
important if you don't want the spirit to come back,

628
00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:31.880
that you fill that space with something good. And of

629
00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:35.079
course biblically we're talking about with the Holy Spirit, right,

630
00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:38.199
you want to fill it with God. And you know,

631
00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:39.800
I know we talk to a lot of people who

632
00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:43.719
gone through something similar and they fill their space with

633
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:47.639
positive energy light. They try to remove anything that can

634
00:36:47.719 --> 00:36:51.440
be negative in their life, whether it's music or movies

635
00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:55.760
or individuals. So it's very important that if a spirit

636
00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:57.639
keeps coming back, you need to take a moment and

637
00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:00.480
check to see what you're filling that empty, swept up

638
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:03.960
space with, because if it's with nothing, that spirit will

639
00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:07.159
continuously come back, find it clean and find a better

640
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:11.559
place to rets and.

641
00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:14.280
We've talked about that a lot over the past years,

642
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:20.519
but I can't remember exactly what Kat said where it

643
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:27.199
prompted that, but it still kind of holds true, like

644
00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:32.119
whether you're coming from a Christian perspective or from main's

645
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:38.239
mainstream perspective. Sorry, something that I learned this year talking

646
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:41.440
to JJ Rose is if you're trying to cleanse a

647
00:37:41.480 --> 00:37:45.559
house with saging it, let's say, or using some type

648
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:51.880
of herb smoke to cleanse the area. I don't remember

649
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:55.679
anybody ever telling us this, Maybe I'm just forgetting, but

650
00:37:55.880 --> 00:38:00.719
she said, open the windows. If you're not open the windows,

651
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:06.400
the spirits have nowhere to go. You basically just pushed

652
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:09.519
them away from you for the time being, and they

653
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:12.280
didn't go anywhere. They were still there, so you didn't

654
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:13.159
cleanse the house.

655
00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:16.320
Yeah, I don't know, Like, I don't know if I

656
00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:21.320
fully agree with that, but you know, regardless, I think

657
00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:24.480
the main point here was that there have been individuals

658
00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:28.920
throughout history, recent history in particular, who have tried to

659
00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:30.880
cleanse their house and got rid of a spirit for

660
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:33.639
a short while and only to find it comes back

661
00:38:33.719 --> 00:38:36.199
stronger at some point and in their future and most

662
00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:39.199
times ninety nine percent of those times is because they

663
00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:41.920
don't feel that void, they just leave it empty. And

664
00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:44.159
so that spirit always been a fight to come back.

665
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:48.360
And that's the main point on my part here, and

666
00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:50.519
that's I think that's what the conversation was with Kat

667
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:53.159
and why I brought that up. It's important that we

668
00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:57.519
fill our spaces when doing or cleansing, because otherwise it's

669
00:38:57.639 --> 00:38:59.320
just an open empty space.

670
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:01.239
Right.

671
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:05.239
All right. This next clip or two clips, and these

672
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:08.559
are the last two clips that we have, was Margaret

673
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:11.599
and Limbo Holy Guides how to Connect with Them. That

674
00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:15.719
was the name of the episode. The book was about

675
00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:19.079
the saints and archangels and how to connect with those

676
00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:22.559
two to help your daily life. But we'll play these

677
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:23.119
real quick.

678
00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:28.360
Here. Does my own belief system doesn't allow for that?

679
00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:35.000
It's like not sit the say not today.

680
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:39.639
Well, I've already heard that phrase.

681
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:41.239
It's like I love that.

682
00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:48.760
Well, I think also like be going off of that

683
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:53.400
belief system. But well, just your own personal beliefs, your faith. Uh,

684
00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:56.400
it's actually scripturally based, you know.

685
00:39:56.519 --> 00:39:59.199
The Lord says that when we pray about something, we

686
00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:02.960
should believe we've already received it. Uh, And so believing

687
00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:06.880
that like for example, we're surrounded by a bright light

688
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:10.039
that protects us from negative energies or believing that negative

689
00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:14.000
energy can't influence or walk into our territory because of

690
00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:16.320
the spirits that are with us or the Holy Spirit.

691
00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:19.840
And I think a lot of people they have this

692
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:21.079
idea like if you just.

693
00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:25.679
And sorry, I cut you off.

694
00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:28.199
Now I'm offensivespense.

695
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:31.920
Remember, well you have to go back and let's the

696
00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:34.360
or listen to the episode. Now, all right, here's the

697
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:35.280
second clip here.

698
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:39.599
Now for people, let's just say, who are just starting

699
00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:44.199
with wanting to reach out to our chantrosource saints, but

700
00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:46.360
they don't really know how to start, where to start

701
00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:48.559
or what particular angel to reach out to you. And

702
00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:51.679
let's just say they don't have your book to guide them.

703
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:54.119
How does one actually go about Is it just research

704
00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:58.119
or do they go ahead and like, uh, just ask

705
00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:02.360
anything to any one who's listening, or like, how would

706
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:04.360
you guide them in that situation?

707
00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:09.840
So I wouldn't ask anything to anyone who has just

708
00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:12.119
happened to maybe listening, because you don't know who you're

709
00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:12.760
calling out to.

710
00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:16.320
I would I would say potentially a little.

711
00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:20.880
Bit of research would help to or are looking toward

712
00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:25.960
to someone else who has the experience or knowledge or

713
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:29.000
the connection with the divine that they could find, you know,

714
00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:32.960
with maybe a spiritual teacher who is authentic that might

715
00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:36.400
be able to guide them how to reach out.

716
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:37.880
But the main and.

717
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:42.559
The easiest way, I think is to decide, you know

718
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:45.559
what I need help with and then state what it is.

719
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:50.800
And I'm asking for only the highest and best energies

720
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:54.239
to come and guide me on my journey. I ask

721
00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:59.079
for the highest level, and only goodness is allowed in

722
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:02.679
my space. Only love is allowed on my space. Shine

723
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:04.880
light on my path so I can see what I

724
00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:07.039
need to see or hear what I need to hear,

725
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:11.719
know what I need to know, and reveal to me truths.

726
00:42:11.199 --> 00:42:12.840
And helped me to be a better person.

727
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:14.599
And you know, like you kind of it's like you're

728
00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:17.320
just talking to a good friend, but you can't see them.

729
00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:21.599
They're not fair, you know, turned to us and that's

730
00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:23.599
how I would go about it personally.

731
00:42:26.119 --> 00:42:28.039
So the one thing I really loved about that is

732
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:31.559
she kind of are like you mentioned earlier, kind of

733
00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:34.679
confirmed well, you can't really know what you can set

734
00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:40.239
the intention of this is what I want. As far

735
00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:44.960
as talking to spirits or angels and saints for that matter,

736
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:52.039
and you mentioned it earlier. Do we really know what

737
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:55.679
we're talking to here? And truthfully we don't. We know

738
00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:58.239
what we think it is, but we don't know for sure.

739
00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:01.239
That's testing her these little test as to what you

740
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:04.000
would say if I said you just called to anything anybody.

741
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:07.480
So so now you're testing the spirits.

742
00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:10.119
No no, it's tested. No no, no, no, I know

743
00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:14.760
it's in the Bible, test the spirits. I'm just wasn't

744
00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:18.239
testing her. But it's funny when we have these questions,

745
00:43:18.239 --> 00:43:20.679
because these are things we we we write up for

746
00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:25.119
primarily for for for you guys, listing like questions that

747
00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:27.559
you may have or sometimes it's questions that you guys

748
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:29.880
do have, uh, And so we we always try to

749
00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:34.679
state them and sometimes the life of a better term

750
00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:40.840
in the most nuanced or low key, kind of simplistic way, right,

751
00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:44.440
because you want the answers want to know exactly what

752
00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:46.400
the answer is. And if we beat around the bush

753
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:49.400
that we listened on some of those important details that

754
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:54.920
I think are simply needed, especially within this particular environment

755
00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:58.079
that we all kind of live in with paranormal Right.

756
00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:02.920
So the last two are honorable mentions here just because

757
00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:06.800
we really did love them, we just didn't have have

758
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:10.679
time to get clips for them. And that was the

759
00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:14.440
giving UFO News with Christina Gomez. She's got a great

760
00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:17.360
show on YouTube, to make sure you check her out.

761
00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:21.719
And that was very close to the time that the

762
00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:25.920
New Jersey drones had kind of what the government called,

763
00:44:26.519 --> 00:44:29.079
you know, they was debunked. You know, it was I

764
00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:34.440
forget what they were saying it was according to but

765
00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:37.400
it was good to get her perspective on that because

766
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:42.639
she is literally reporting on this. I don't know if

767
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:46.960
it's daily or weekly, but awesome guest.

768
00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:47.960
Uh.

769
00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:51.360
The other one that we had was The Bad Vibes

770
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:56.360
Field Guide with Devin Hunter and m Bellinger and I

771
00:44:56.400 --> 00:44:59.599
think I can speak for Eric and you can cut

772
00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:03.480
me off. I'm wrong. But m Beallenger was one that

773
00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:07.400
we've been wanting on for years. I think literally when

774
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:13.679
we started with Nightstalks that we wanted her on. And

775
00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:17.039
we wanted her on because she she had Donne documentaries

776
00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:20.280
about being a psychic vampire and the difference between you know,

777
00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:24.440
the the vampire we don't war and what a psychic

778
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:27.360
vampire is. But to get her on to talk about

779
00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:30.960
the Bad Vibes Field Guide, which she was actually only

780
00:45:31.039 --> 00:45:34.880
kind of the forward for that book, but it was

781
00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:37.079
awesome to talk to both Devin and her together.

782
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:40.119
Yeah, for sure, that definitely one of the big holets

783
00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:43.960
for for us and definitely a something to check off

784
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:47.039
the Bucalist getting her in a conversation on the show.

785
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:53.719
Right. So question for you, now, Okay, are there any

786
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:58.360
I put stories but topics that kind of crossed from

787
00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:00.800
fringe into mainstream this year for us?

788
00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:07.360
From fringe into mainstream, mean aside from the whole I mean,

789
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:09.000
we were to talk about the AI, so I'm gonna

790
00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:12.280
go into that, but because that's you know, obviously we're

791
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:17.000
down with Terminator and Judgment Day type stuff here, but

792
00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:19.199
you know, there's I mean, there were quite a few

793
00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:22.360
things over all that I think kind of jumped from

794
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:24.840
the fringe to the mainstream. And the biggest thing again

795
00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:28.000
is going to comp right back to the UFOs. You know,

796
00:46:28.039 --> 00:46:30.079
these are things that we've always speculated on, things that

797
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:32.519
you see, but never had clear evidence of, and now

798
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:38.599
we're getting full on video by government officials that are

799
00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:41.960
straight up claiming that, yes, these are things that we

800
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:44.159
do not understand and we don't know what they are,

801
00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:45.840
and they're not us territory, and that's wherever you know,

802
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:49.039
they are not human. So I think that is very

803
00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:52.519
intriguing that happened just I mean the last couple of years,

804
00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:55.159
but this year it particular, was really big on it,

805
00:46:56.159 --> 00:46:57.840
so that I think that was the biggest thing that

806
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:00.000
kind of made that final jump, And I think it's

807
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:03.760
only a matter of time before we do finally get

808
00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:08.039
that official like hey, we're here type of thing, right,

809
00:47:09.159 --> 00:47:11.280
and then people get started to get adopted and we

810
00:47:11.320 --> 00:47:13.800
have these lot eatings coming on and the people shooting

811
00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:21.559
things and blowing stuff up. Right, Sorry, I started to

812
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:25.639
think about Mars attacks, but yeah, you know, I think

813
00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:28.559
that was the biggest thing for sure. The second that

814
00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:34.280
kind of started to move was the idea of what's

815
00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:39.800
it called the loboo dolls. Dolls you know, we talked

816
00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:44.159
about talked about the god that it's supposedly based off of,

817
00:47:44.840 --> 00:47:46.599
and that is very fringe and it's something that we

818
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:50.119
don't have any actual true evidence of, a physical evidence of.

819
00:47:50.440 --> 00:47:55.159
We know his story through history books, through bio just texts. Uh.

820
00:47:55.239 --> 00:47:59.840
And then the fact that it's making this interesting kind

821
00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:03.199
of do as a toy and I'm not saying that

822
00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:08.599
this toy is based off you know, this particular demon,

823
00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:12.679
but the similarities are pretty close. So you know, I think, guys,

824
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:15.880
the second thing that really kind of jumped from fringe

825
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:18.599
to reality for us this year the possibility that there

826
00:48:18.639 --> 00:48:20.840
is something working on the other side to get its

827
00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:24.559
image shown and maybe even warships.

828
00:48:25.199 --> 00:48:29.800
Yeah, and I was gonna bring up what I was

829
00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:32.719
talking about earlier at this particular thing, but I'm actually

830
00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:35.039
gonna bring it up in just a few minutes here,

831
00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:41.920
but dispense. But yeah, I think the biggest thing for

832
00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:48.639
I think was that that UFO drone thing that happened

833
00:48:48.639 --> 00:48:50.840
at the end of last year, going into this year

834
00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:58.960
and getting the government's explanation and really thinking back to

835
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:03.880
the Roswell incident and where it was kind of a

836
00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:08.039
backpedal thing then to where oh it's a UFI, No,

837
00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:12.599
it's a weather blue right, So that's I think that's

838
00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:14.480
where it kind of crossed over.

839
00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:18.039
For me, different time, but same story. It's all right over.

840
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:26.480
So some of the stuff that we've talked about that

841
00:49:27.679 --> 00:49:32.840
is maybe repeating or overlapping entity symbols, locations. Was there

842
00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:35.559
anything that we covered this year or that you've noticed

843
00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:39.599
in mainstream media when it comes to the paranormal that

844
00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:40.840
kind of overlapped.

845
00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:47.760
Nothing that really overlapped all that much. There. There were

846
00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:52.800
probably a couple of locations that were repeated, primarily in

847
00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:59.239
terms of hauntings and investigations. Was the trying to render

848
00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:00.880
the name of the w one book. Actually it was

849
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:03.199
a hund up of phase on Fox something Fox out

850
00:50:03.239 --> 00:50:08.199
Hunting on Fox Hollow. I think something like that with Richard, Yes,

851
00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:10.880
the person that had popped up actually a couple of

852
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:14.000
times throughout the year that I had noticed not just

853
00:50:14.079 --> 00:50:16.719
with him and all show, but I've seen that.

854
00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:20.280
Particular story pop up elsewhere as well online, and I

855
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:24.400
thought that was pretty intriguing in herself and pretty significant.

856
00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:29.039
Uh And aside from that, there wasn't too too much

857
00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:32.119
overall symbols. I can't really say there were many there,

858
00:50:33.480 --> 00:50:35.960
you know. There again, there's there's plenty of people starting

859
00:50:35.960 --> 00:50:42.199
to delve into various new practice new wage practices, and

860
00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:45.119
by new wage you could being old age right, depending

861
00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:47.679
on the practice. Uh. So, you know, we we we've

862
00:50:47.679 --> 00:50:51.199
seen some symbols like the the five pointed star kind

863
00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:55.239
of pop back up again quite a bit. Uh, you know,

864
00:50:55.320 --> 00:51:00.039
the Pentacle or the Pentagram, both versions upside down. I

865
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:03.159
haven't read it whatever, all of them. And then, of

866
00:51:03.159 --> 00:51:05.639
course we had some recurring thornes even with the Crucifix,

867
00:51:05.719 --> 00:51:09.079
the cross, the various ways that it was created and

868
00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:12.039
used throughout history that came up a few times on

869
00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:15.280
our show in terms of symbolism and how those symbols

870
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:19.440
have been used over time, such as the mending of

871
00:51:20.039 --> 00:51:24.119
the original Son of God of Ireland and the Christian

872
00:51:24.199 --> 00:51:27.960
Crucifix to create the comfort Cross.

873
00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:31.639
Okay, now this one we've already kind of talked about,

874
00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:34.840
but I wanted to bring this up. You know, technology,

875
00:51:34.840 --> 00:51:39.840
AI and paranormal overlap. We have gone into great lengths

876
00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:42.639
at the beginning of the episode about AI. But something

877
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:45.400
I did this year earlier this year, I don't remember

878
00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:47.559
if I told you this. I think I did, but

879
00:51:47.599 --> 00:51:52.440
maybe I didn't. I was literally having a full conversation

880
00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:56.840
with AI and I said, look, if I wanted to

881
00:51:57.119 --> 00:52:01.679
use AI as a tool for doing paranormal investigations, what

882
00:52:01.719 --> 00:52:04.559
would that look like. So we were having this conversation

883
00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:09.320
saying that it can analyze audio, you know, stuff like that,

884
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:12.480
and but my thought was, well, why can't you do

885
00:52:13.199 --> 00:52:16.960
something like, instead of using a medium, instead of using

886
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:20.840
a spirit box, what if you set the parameters to

887
00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:24.119
AI in an investigation and it could just be you

888
00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:27.079
don't even have to present it as evidence, just be like, look,

889
00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:31.920
I want you to listen after I do or say

890
00:52:31.960 --> 00:52:35.800
a question and see what comes up. And it said

891
00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:39.280
it basically said I would love to do this experiment

892
00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:43.880
with you. So I think in a sense, since we

893
00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:49.920
were talking about AIS tool, that maybe that is a

894
00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:56.719
very valual the very value value value. God, I haven't

895
00:52:56.760 --> 00:53:03.960
had that much strong valuable tool to have where I mean,

896
00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:06.760
if you want to have a medium in your team,

897
00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:13.280
that's fine, but use AI. Give the give the medium

898
00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:17.559
a break, give some of the other pieces of equipment

899
00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:21.239
of break and see what AI comes up with. And

900
00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:24.639
it again. You know, it's one of those things where

901
00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:29.480
AI might put a certain part of the team out

902
00:53:29.480 --> 00:53:36.079
of out of business because it's analyzing the audio for you.

903
00:53:36.119 --> 00:53:37.000
Any thoughts on that.

904
00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:41.079
I mean, nothing too crazy that I agree with you.

905
00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:43.400
I think it could definitely be utilized as a tool,

906
00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:45.119
but I think we still need to be very careful

907
00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:47.840
with using it. In not a sense that we shouldn't

908
00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:51.360
trust AI, but the more that we use some of

909
00:53:51.360 --> 00:53:54.639
these tools that we can't use the evidence, then the

910
00:53:54.679 --> 00:53:58.519
less evidence are actually gaining. Like it's one thing, especially

911
00:53:58.599 --> 00:54:01.920
our investigations, but for you personally, I think it's great

912
00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:04.320
because you can use that as evidence for yourself, but

913
00:54:04.360 --> 00:54:08.400
if it's for a client, you can't really produce or

914
00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:11.280
show that evidence to them. You can't really get it.

915
00:54:11.320 --> 00:54:13.639
And like this is what AI says, and take it

916
00:54:13.679 --> 00:54:17.400
as back right, So much like with.

917
00:54:17.159 --> 00:54:21.159
With the the sparate box, something we don't typically use

918
00:54:21.280 --> 00:54:26.800
to present evidence or as presented evidence, I think and

919
00:54:26.920 --> 00:54:29.639
keep our our tools.

920
00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:34.360
Use sparingly, but in an equal fashion as well.

921
00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:44.400
Right now, we both have a healthy skepticism when it

922
00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:49.440
comes to the paranormal. Is there anything we've learned in

923
00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:51.239
the past year using that?

924
00:54:54.920 --> 00:54:59.480
I think the big thing is that our skepticism prevents

925
00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:05.719
us from being gullible. You know, we we know several

926
00:55:05.760 --> 00:55:08.480
people at least where I met several people throughout the

927
00:55:08.559 --> 00:55:11.159
year that tend to be so gullible on some of

928
00:55:11.159 --> 00:55:14.840
these things that they just broadcast everything is fact, only

929
00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:19.960
it'll later be confused as to why that fact is

930
00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:23.679
then smashed with a truth. Right. What they think is

931
00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:28.000
factors with the truth and so I think skepticism has

932
00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:31.039
always played a very important part for us for our

933
00:55:31.079 --> 00:55:33.800
study of the paranormal, because it's one thing to be

934
00:55:33.880 --> 00:55:38.079
skeptic and say, oh I was wrong, this thing is real. Right,

935
00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:40.440
we're just saying, oh, no, I'm one hundred percent list

936
00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:43.519
is real, and then we go, no, we're wrong. Here's

937
00:55:43.519 --> 00:55:46.280
the evidence of prove it. So you know, if nothing

938
00:55:46.320 --> 00:55:50.760
else at least protects our pride at the very least,

939
00:55:50.800 --> 00:56:04.639
So for sure you're finally wrapping things up kind of

940
00:56:04.639 --> 00:56:09.000
here where we're being close to the end. Here is why, really,

941
00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:12.800
why is uncertainty a part of the journey?

942
00:56:14.519 --> 00:56:16.679
I think, well, I mean, I think the biggest thing

943
00:56:16.719 --> 00:56:19.760
for that is, you know, if you're not questioning stuff,

944
00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:29.480
then being in the paranormal is gonna be a very

945
00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:34.800
hard time for you because there's gonna be numerous times

946
00:56:35.119 --> 00:56:39.199
that you're uncertain that you heard something in an EVP.

947
00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:47.719
You know, you were uncertain what a picture was. But

948
00:56:48.159 --> 00:56:51.000
that's how you learn and grow as a paranormal investigator

949
00:56:51.119 --> 00:56:57.960
is learning how to debunk those things. The same thing

950
00:56:58.000 --> 00:57:02.000
goes for UFO sings, you know, stuff like that too,

951
00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:05.960
or like we mentioned earlier, the videos that have come

952
00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:08.599
out over the past year. In the past couple of years,

953
00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:11.679
there have been so many videos I've sent to you

954
00:57:11.880 --> 00:57:14.920
and you're like, yeah, no, you can see this or

955
00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:18.440
that where the normal person would not see it compared

956
00:57:18.480 --> 00:57:23.039
to somebody who's studied video as you have.

957
00:57:23.800 --> 00:57:26.239
Right, Yeah, No, I think on such dy is definitely

958
00:57:26.320 --> 00:57:32.039
important in the journey for any paranormal investigator, simply because

959
00:57:32.239 --> 00:57:35.599
it keeps you asking questions and to ask questions, you know,

960
00:57:36.199 --> 00:57:40.880
that's the whole point. We are scientists at heart, maybe

961
00:57:40.920 --> 00:57:44.000
not what the world things as scientists, but we are

962
00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:47.000
paras scientists, and it's fortunate to ask questions in order

963
00:57:47.039 --> 00:57:49.840
to find answers. With all we have our answers, then

964
00:57:49.880 --> 00:57:55.639
we learn nothing, so and better you know, to keep learning,

965
00:57:55.639 --> 00:57:57.400
then to look like a fool who thinks he knows

966
00:57:57.440 --> 00:58:08.440
everything and learns it, you know, not thing say, yeah, the.

967
00:58:08.320 --> 00:58:10.480
Only reason I laugh is because like some of the

968
00:58:10.519 --> 00:58:14.880
explanations you give, it's like it's very insightful, but we

969
00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:16.039
took a really long time.

970
00:58:18.280 --> 00:58:23.039
I don't yeh. That's the thing. That's what everybody concert for,

971
00:58:23.159 --> 00:58:29.239
right Nope. So one thing that we just want to

972
00:58:29.280 --> 00:58:33.360
do here is really invite everybody listening to the Parachieper

973
00:58:33.440 --> 00:58:36.519
community to help shape what's next for our show as

974
00:58:36.519 --> 00:58:39.679
you move into twenty twenty six, the new year. We

975
00:58:39.800 --> 00:58:44.000
have roughly fifty two new episodes on the block right

976
00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:46.960
over the next year, so there are plenty of spaces

977
00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:50.519
open that we have not lockdown. So if anybody has

978
00:58:50.599 --> 00:58:53.880
any ideas for guests or topics that they want to

979
00:58:53.920 --> 00:58:56.280
hear about on this show, please feel free to reach

980
00:58:56.320 --> 00:59:00.840
out to us. We email via the messenger on Facebook,

981
00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:03.079
or send us a comment on Facebook or YouTube, etc.

982
00:59:03.760 --> 00:59:06.159
We will see those and we'll probably get back to

983
00:59:06.239 --> 00:59:09.880
you in an hour or two in most cases. But

984
00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:13.760
you can also join a Paratruther community on Facebook. It's

985
00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:18.079
just Paratruther and you guys can kind of get in

986
00:59:18.159 --> 00:59:20.880
on the stories, on the conversations that each share and

987
00:59:20.920 --> 00:59:27.039
there everything is ext everything is that we put in

988
00:59:27.079 --> 00:59:31.880
there is exclusive TV individuals in that group, so we

989
00:59:31.960 --> 00:59:36.960
are sharing videos, conversations, stories that we don't share anywhere else.

990
00:59:37.000 --> 00:59:38.360
So if you want to be a part of that

991
00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:40.760
and learn more and just kind of communicate with us,

992
00:59:40.800 --> 00:59:43.239
hang out, you know, not just with us, with our

993
00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:47.639
other listeners and fans and show hosts. Definitely do that

994
00:59:48.000 --> 00:59:48.800
it's a good place to be.

995
00:59:49.960 --> 00:59:52.119
Absolutely, Like, one of the biggest things that we did

996
00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:58.000
that was not shared on our normal social medias that

997
00:59:58.039 --> 01:00:00.920
we did there was the lower cards for our Christmas episode.

998
01:00:01.320 --> 01:00:05.559
So we will start doing more exclusives for that and

999
01:00:06.480 --> 01:00:10.880
at some point maybe well we'll do a subscription thing too,

1000
01:00:10.920 --> 01:00:13.320
But right now we are offering it free to everybody,

1001
01:00:13.679 --> 01:00:16.639
and I really truly want to keep that free for everybody.

1002
01:00:16.679 --> 01:00:19.840
But at some point we do have to fund the show,

1003
01:00:20.119 --> 01:00:22.360
but we won't go there until we have to.

1004
01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:25.880
With us said, if you get in free, you stay

1005
01:00:25.920 --> 01:00:28.000
locked in free. Oh, we will not be charged on

1006
01:00:28.719 --> 01:00:31.920
if we do a subscription fee, you'll be one of

1007
01:00:31.960 --> 01:00:34.800
the few that don't have to pay subscription. So my

1008
01:00:34.880 --> 01:00:35.719
reason to join in.

1009
01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:39.239
Now absolutely so. I do want to give two quick

1010
01:00:39.239 --> 01:00:42.880
shout outs. One is to Catward, who listens to our

1011
01:00:42.920 --> 01:00:47.840
episodes all time comments on our YouTube videos. The other

1012
01:00:47.960 --> 01:00:51.679
is Heidi Goal. I hope I pronounced your last name right, Heidi.

1013
01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:55.880
I apologize if I didn't. Who's always sharing not just

1014
01:00:56.079 --> 01:01:00.000
our shows but all the shows for UPR and network,

1015
01:01:00.599 --> 01:01:06.199
And I really really want to make clear that we

1016
01:01:06.280 --> 01:01:09.440
love all of our listeners. But those two have gone

1017
01:01:09.599 --> 01:01:11.760
above and beyond. So if you want to hear a

1018
01:01:11.800 --> 01:01:14.639
shout out for you, make sure you're getting in on

1019
01:01:14.679 --> 01:01:19.639
the conversation. We're always doing polls. Make sure you're getting

1020
01:01:19.679 --> 01:01:25.800
into the either YouTube or the group where it's a

1021
01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:28.639
little bit easier to do a poll. Where we on

1022
01:01:28.760 --> 01:01:30.639
our other social media is it's a little more like

1023
01:01:30.679 --> 01:01:36.599
a comment, you know, comment on every episode so we

1024
01:01:36.719 --> 01:01:41.119
know what you liked didn't like, because we can't grow

1025
01:01:41.199 --> 01:01:44.039
as a show without those, and email us throughout the

1026
01:01:44.119 --> 01:01:47.719
year if you have ideas for episodes, if you have

1027
01:01:47.800 --> 01:01:49.880
comments and you don't want to put it on social media.

1028
01:01:51.039 --> 01:01:55.360
Paratruth Video gmail dot com. Yes, it's that Paratrue. You're

1029
01:01:55.400 --> 01:02:00.199
born because we rebranded and we had a solid email there.

1030
01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:06.519
Make sure you submit your own theories as well, because

1031
01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:08.920
we can talk to her blue in the face about

1032
01:02:08.960 --> 01:02:12.480
certain topics, but without the interaction from you guys, and

1033
01:02:12.840 --> 01:02:15.280
maybe even call us out if we had something wrong.

1034
01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:18.679
Please call us out, because we can't grow as hosts

1035
01:02:18.880 --> 01:02:26.000
until we have your interaction. We'll have you guys vote

1036
01:02:26.039 --> 01:02:28.559
on future topics as well. We've kind of done that

1037
01:02:28.599 --> 01:02:30.920
with poll once and maybe that's the best way to

1038
01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:34.559
do it and share your personal experiences. It can be

1039
01:02:34.639 --> 01:02:38.559
anonymous if you want us to share your name, even

1040
01:02:38.639 --> 01:02:40.920
if it's just your first name. If you just want

1041
01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:47.000
to give us a pseudonym, that's totally fine too. But

1042
01:02:47.119 --> 01:02:53.320
we really, really really love our listeners, and without our paratruthers,

1043
01:02:53.400 --> 01:02:56.360
this show does not work. Half of what we do

1044
01:02:56.679 --> 01:03:01.760
is to talk about that come from you, guys, So

1045
01:03:02.400 --> 01:03:06.159
reach out, let us know what you guys are wanting.

1046
01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:11.639
I think that with that being said, is there any

1047
01:03:11.679 --> 01:03:16.000
final thoughts or expectations for twenty twenty six?

1048
01:03:16.280 --> 01:03:18.920
Not just to keep moving being forward, just keep on,

1049
01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:23.480
you know, opening well carefully, opening doors and learning new shoes.

1050
01:03:25.840 --> 01:03:28.719
Let's not open that we already have done already.

1051
01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:32.119
Anyways, I think, I think, I think twenty twenty six

1052
01:03:32.199 --> 01:03:34.400
is gonna be a big year for the Paranormal and

1053
01:03:34.400 --> 01:03:36.760
we're gonna have a lot of great guests joining us.

1054
01:03:36.760 --> 01:03:40.199
We have some returning and we'll have some new faces

1055
01:03:40.199 --> 01:03:43.199
as well, so plenty to look forward to, plenty will learn,

1056
01:03:43.679 --> 01:03:46.000
and again we would love to get some of our

1057
01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:48.280
guests on the show too, or guy, sorry, some of

1058
01:03:48.280 --> 01:03:51.320
our listeners on the show as well. If now we

1059
01:03:51.400 --> 01:03:54.000
know you guys all have your own views and opinions

1060
01:03:54.079 --> 01:03:57.000
on the paranormal we'd love to hear them right here live.

1061
01:03:57.159 --> 01:03:59.960
So if that's something interested, again reach out to us.

1062
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:02.280
But again, it's gonna be a great year, totally six

1063
01:04:02.559 --> 01:04:05.000
happy to everybody, and I hope it's a safe one

1064
01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:05.440
for you all.

1065
01:04:07.079 --> 01:04:09.280
Yeah, and I will piggy back off that if you

1066
01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:13.320
want to kind of voice your opinion and you don't

1067
01:04:13.320 --> 01:04:15.960
want to necessarily be on the show with us. If

1068
01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:18.440
you go to our website, there is a voicemail message

1069
01:04:18.679 --> 01:04:21.360
system on there as well. Leave us as voicemail, tell

1070
01:04:21.400 --> 01:04:25.079
us if it's okay to share it. If it's something personal,

1071
01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:28.159
please make sure you leave out names of people and

1072
01:04:28.599 --> 01:04:32.679
places and events unless you have specific authorization to do so.

1073
01:04:34.639 --> 01:04:38.519
But that's one of those things where it's like we

1074
01:04:38.519 --> 01:04:40.360
would love to have you on as a guest, of course,

1075
01:04:40.719 --> 01:04:43.840
but if it's uncomfortable for you, absolutely we can make

1076
01:04:43.880 --> 01:04:50.440
it work otherwise. And yeah, keep it safe this New year.

1077
01:04:51.360 --> 01:04:54.199
If you're drinking, please make sure you get a ride,

1078
01:04:55.880 --> 01:04:58.039
make sure you're with loved ones. This is one of

1079
01:04:58.119 --> 01:05:00.920
the most depressing times of the year for many people,

1080
01:05:01.440 --> 01:05:05.519
so definitely reach out to You can reach out to

1081
01:05:05.880 --> 01:05:07.800
people that are close to you reach out to us.

1082
01:05:08.239 --> 01:05:12.639
We would be glad to talk stuff through with you.

1083
01:05:15.159 --> 01:05:21.639
But yeah, normally I play all lags sign for copyright purposes.

1084
01:05:21.639 --> 01:05:26.559
I won't do it this year, but until next week

1085
01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:30.239
and next year, where you will find the same time,

1086
01:05:30.719 --> 01:05:34.400
same channel. My name is Justin and I'm Eric Peace