Nov. 10, 2024

UFO Liftoff

UFO Liftoff

What's going on, ParaTruthers?! On this episode, we talk about: - New and increased sightings of UFOs or UAPs - What is it that it could be other than aliens? - The increased portal sightings: are they fake or does it have to do with UFOs? - Is any...

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What's going on, ParaTruthers?! On this episode, we talk about:

  1. New and increased sightings of UFOs or UAPs
  2. What is it that it could be other than aliens?
  3. The increased portal sightings: are they fake or does it have to do with UFOs?
  4. Is any of this good enough evidence to say it is aliens?
...and as always, we leave it up to you on what you believe the truth is! But we would love to hear what you think. So, comment on socials or on the episode itself. We are now doing video on YouTube as well! And please like, share, and subscribe wherever you listen! Make sure you check United Public Radio Network and 107.7 FM New Orleans, where you can also hear all our episodes.

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Welcome.

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Well, well do parrot truth Truth? What's up everyone? Welcome

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to Paratruth Reborn. This is a pre recorded show on

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one oh seven point seven FM, New Orleans.

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My name is Eric and I'm Justin.

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And if you had the opportunity to listen to our

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first debut episode last week about vampires, well, we're coming

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from a look from a place of many, many years

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of working hard at trying to podcasting and stuff. But

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if you tuned in and you're wondering who we are,

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what we're all about, well we're going to share that

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right now today with you.

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Guys.

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If you haven't tuned into vampires Pecture, you check it

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out after this episode. It's really informative, very science based

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as well a lot of fun. So as stated at

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the beginning here, my name is Eric, this is my

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cousin and co host Justin. We developed Paratruth roughly eight

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years ago or so, and it was a combination of

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a number of things over the course of fifteen years,

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various shows that we both have actually been ten years

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has it been ten years? Oh twenty fourteen? Wow, time

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is weird. Paratruth came about after a number of years

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in which Justin and I both shared a show back

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in two thousand and eight to about two thousand and

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eleven twenty twelve, and then we separated when our own ways,

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did our own shows on different networks and stuff, and

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then in twenty fourteen came back and decided to kind

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of combine our two separate shows into one, and it

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became Paratruth. So a little bit about myself and what

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that show actually was to kind of give you an

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idea of where I come from. So I had been

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podcasting for around fifteen years now, fifteen sixteen years. I

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work in the film world. I have a film degree,

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and so I spent a lot of time doing arts

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and editing and crafting videos and content for the radio.

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And back in twenty fourteen, I'm sorry, twenty and twelve,

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I started a show that was really representative of my faith.

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So I'm a Christian. I was born again in two

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thousand and nine, and I created a show called Forgotten Truth. Now.

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Forgotten Truth was a show designed to break the veil

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between a Christian perspective of the paranormal and the practitioners

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of other religions of counts and secular thinking. It was

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basically an experiment to see whether the religious quote unquote,

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the occultist and the scientist can have a fair productive

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conversation about the paranormal without tearing each other down, because

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in my line of work, I'd seen over and over

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again how we would constantly butt heads as to what

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the truth was and who was right who was wrong,

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and it was kind of frustrating. And I had great,

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great success on Forgotten Truth regarding just people from various

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walks of life coming together having full respect of each

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other while still talking about the things that we just

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absolutely love, and that is the paranormal. So with that said,

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around twenty fourteen we came in and part of you know,

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Paratruth was Forgotten Truth. So that's where mine comes in

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and where I.

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Stand, and I'm justin. I've been doing this as long

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as Eric and got into the paranormal early age. Loved

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doing the different things that you know comes with being

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in the paranormal, Ouiji board, tarot cards. Then when Eric

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and I started our first show, we were talking about

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paranormal stuff and I really wanted to do a show

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on it, so we did research and got that going,

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and then yeah, Parasite Radio was the incarnation of my

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show before it became Paratruth, and it was basically what

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I was doing well before. And you know, I come

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from a more secular view. I've followed the Christian faith

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as a kid, and as a grown up, my mind

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has grown a little bit. I feel that there is

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something way more than just organized religions are telling us.

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So I come from it from from a more secular standpoint,

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and and that's how Paratruth was intended to be. You know,

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after we revamped Paratruth and became Paratruth reborn, that's where

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we wanted to keep it because we've swayed both ways,

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both of us in being in Paratruth, and so we

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are sticking to our original guns and coming from two

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separate views and eventually at least coming to an understanding

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of where each view comes from and at least having

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a respect for that right.

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And so one of our tagline, actually our main tagline

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for Paratruth is that we define paranormal. And this is

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something that took many, many years to finally accumulate and

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become the definition to help us define what the paranormal is.

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So we dive headfirst into each topic, exploring legends, history,

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and first hand accounts which guide us on a journey

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to expose the myths and find the truth behind all

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paranormal events. Now we've dedicated time and our energy into

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learning about the mysteries that are beyond the scope of

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scientific understanding, and as our curiosity grew, so too did

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our passion. So being scientifically minded, we take each topic

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or case that we study and filter it through logical

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thinking and practical application along with our own personal beliefs

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and faith, and then ultimately present that information to you

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guys as clear and precise as possible. And of course

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we want you guys to join in and chat with

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us as well, so we will be in the chat

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even though this is a pre recorded show, we will

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be in the chat on YouTube especially. We'd love to

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get you guys's ideas, your thoughts on the topic and

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if you have any personal bleas regarding them as well.

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Yeah, I don't have anything else to add.

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Perfectly, all right, So with that said, we are going

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to begin today's actual topic, and that is about ufoes. UFOs.

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You guys know, there has been a lot of sightings,

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a lot of is popping up left and right on

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social media about these They look like craft of some

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sort of aircraft flying overhead. They are circular, their triangle form,

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their cubes, and they make no sense. They define explanation.

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Even our governments are coming out and saying, yes, there's

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something weird there, but we can't explain exactly what it is. Now.

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Whether or not that's true is yet to be shared.

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I think perhaps our governments know way more than they

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let on. But nonetheless, these things are becoming more and

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more popular. We are here in twenty twenty four, you know,

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since twenty twenty two, things they've ramped up, and it's

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only amount of time before these craft, whatever they are,

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either come lower and allow us to get good clear

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video or photo evidence, or we get the opportunity to

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see whatever or whoever is flying those crafts.

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The interesting thing that I find fascinating about UFOs is

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when the government declassified the term UFO and it became

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UAP so unidentified flying object to Unidentified aerial phenomenon. And

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it makes a lot of sense because it's not necessarily

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always a craft that's visible. If you think of the

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Phoenix lights, all that was visible was lights. There was

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nothing that could really be seen by the naked eye,

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and a lot of the encounters that we're seeing in

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videos are as of recently are showing that kind of

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phenomena where it's lights in the sky you can't really

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see a craft, and it's either blinking lights, it's several

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lights in a row that you can obviously tell are

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not stars because they're much brighter than stars look to us.

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And so that was the one fascinating thing about all

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of this, even though I understand the reasoning behind it,

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it's like, does it really matter what we call it?

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Probably not. But here's the thing that I find interesting

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because a few years ago, we had been more than

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a few years ago at this point, we were talking

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about UFOs. We probably cover this topic of UFOs and

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extraterrestrial life several times a year because it is so

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popular and it's something that's constantly changing and adapting over

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the years. There's more and more things happening, there's more

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suspicion or more ideas of what these things are. And

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I think going with the aerial phenomena instead of unidentified

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object is an interesting choice because object is this thought

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that it's a physical device that is in the air,

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something you could touch that you can fly yourself, even

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whereas a phenomena or phenomenon can be maybe some thing

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more spiritual or energy Why energy wise, maybe it's something

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that is a portal of some sort that we're seeing.

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You know, we've had a number of people join us

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on the show and tell us that what we're seeing

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on these UFOs are actually just portals to other dimensions.

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They appear like objects to us flying, but reality it's

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a space time continuum that lets you move through space

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and time in some sort of wormhole. So the fact

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that they chose to use the word phenomenon is I

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think really intriguing.

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Well, and here's the real question too, Like we're seeing

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new and increased sightings of these particular things more and more,

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even more so, I would say, this year over past years,

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And the question really is is it? Because you know,

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we're all finally getting out side again after the COVID

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and all that stuff, is it? You know, we have

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smartphones in more hands, so we're capturing this stuff. Something

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that has become of recent is the invention of AI

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and the use of AI in videos, photos, sound, and

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so forth. Is it AI that these people are using

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in their videos.

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To create this right. And that's a great question because

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it's getting harder and heart start. I'm sorry, guys, my healthcats,

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the hellcats are driving me crazy tonight. So that's a

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great question because the more that we watch like things

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like TikTok or Instagram, I mean, you're sending me you

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and a lot of our friends are sending me all

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kinds of photos and videos of things that are questionable.

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They seem pretty legit, but there's little moments from like,

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h this doesn't seem right, This doesn't this doesn't float

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right or doesn't fly right, or doesn't walk right. You know.

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So we're getting things about UFOs, we're getting things about cryptids,

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we're getting ghost captures that people are asking and say,

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what are your thoughts on this? And the fact is

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it's getting harder and harder to discern what is real

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that actually exists out there that we're capturing, and what

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is just simply artificial intelligence creating or manifesting these same

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videos and making us believe something that really we shouldn't.

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You know, just isn't there isn't isn't real. It's just

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all fictional. And I think as we move forward through time,

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Artificial intelligence is going to become stronger and stronger, and

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eventually we're not going to know the difference between what

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is real and what is fake. And I think there

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will come a point where if it isn't as clear

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and defined as what artificial intelligence shows us, then we

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simply may not believe the real things that we are

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capturing and instead only believe what AI is showing us.

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Right well, And so that is one particular thing of

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what these things could be other than extraterrestrials is AI.

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And the one particular video that I had sent you

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recently with Hellhound, whatever it was, I was almost convinced

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that it looked really real enough, and then you noticed

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the one thing that I didn't cap catch, which is

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why I always send it to you before I'm even

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like mentioning it to anybody, because there are gonna be

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things that I don't catch that you do, and vice versa.

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You've sent stuff to me where I'm like, yeah, that's

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not a ghost, that's somebody just moving way too fast

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and stuff like that. But what in all of our

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research over the years, in your mind, what is a

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And you've brought this up with the gateways or poor

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rolls into other dimensions. But in your mind, what is

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maybe a logical explanation to what these things are?

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I mean, that's a good that's that's a good question,

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because you know, you want to especially being a scientific

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having a scientific mind. You know, those of us in

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the paranormal who study this kind of things, most of

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us we come from a standpoint that is kind of skeptical, right,

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we want to be proven wrong. It's easy to prove

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ourselves right. You just simply see something and believe it

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and it's done. But to try to prove yourself wrong,

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well that's different. You look at an object and you think,

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all right, well that's not a UFO, so what is it?

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And you go down the list and you check off everything.

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You know, it's not AI, it's it's not a star,

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it's not some light phenomenon. And then you you know,

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the further you get along, the more you start to

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think like, okay, well this is unexplainable. What else could

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it be other than possibly some sort of extra trictial life.

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So with that said, though, many of these videos that

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we're seeing, and with UFO content, it's usually videos rather

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than photos. So that's why I'm using the word video

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here specifically, But with the videos we see, there are

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a number of explanations because a lot of these are

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happening in areas where there are airports or military bases,

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and so we could argue that these these crafts that

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we're seeing are actually just military jets of some sort,

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some sort of undercover yet mental field experimental, yeah, you know,

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type of thing. There are a lot of things that

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we see at night on videos. How many like lights

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we see over the mountains that just seem to float

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down in a weird way and then disappear behind the mountains.

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That could be flares being dropped, you know, from an

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airplane flying for their above the horizon, and that usually

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happens around military bases. It could also be parahooters jumping

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out in the dark. You know, we've seen a few

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videos where there are lights coming down, they're descending and

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they're twisting around each other and they look like they

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have this intelligence to them. But in reality, people can

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do that too. You can ask people you skydivers can

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manipulate their bodies to move and to float and look

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like they're flying, like literally flying rather than falling, and

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give this illusion not that they're purposely trying to give

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an illusion for individuals who are out there looking at

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the sky, but it just happens to be something that

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they're doing and other people misinterpreted it. So then beyond that, though,

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I mean, sure there are light phenomenons happening. You know,

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we talk about we've heard about ghost lights that tend

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to happen in swamp areas or near railroads, and that's

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been debunked in some cases to being headlights that are

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reflecting off of some surface miles away. But something similar

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could happen in the atmosphere as well. It's just a

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reflection of some sort of light elsewhere and it appears

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to be some sort of you know, extraterrestrial vehicle that

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is flying around town. But maybe it's just some sort

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of gaslight or you know, something like that. But again,

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you know, when it comes to logical thinking, you have

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to really compare the options to the videos that we're

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actually seeing or what maybe you witnessed yourself and think, okay,

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could this be what's happening? And if you can't test

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it and debunk it, then there's a possibility what you're

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seeing is just simply unexplainable.

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Right well, And I'll tell this story because I've told

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them multiple times. My wife, Shelly, and I were incestly.

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I believe it was when we were on our honeymoon

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and we're out on the balcony front in our hotel

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room and we're just looking at the night sky. I

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were looking at the city and off in the distance

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there's a bay and I see these lights like darting

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and swooping, and I'm like, Shelley, Shelley, get out here,

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get out here, look at this. And she looks and

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she's like, what is that. I'm like, I don't know,

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but I'm it almost seems like UFOs. And to me

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they were UFOs. Because I couldn't see what they were,

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I could identify them. And then a little time goes

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by and then all of a sudden, a seagull flies

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over the top of us, and she goes, justin, they're

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just seagulls. I'm like, well, how am I supposed to know?

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I didn't know that there was seagulls out there. The

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other instance that I've had, which is unexplainable to me,

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was I was driving to work one day. It was

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dark out and I was driving north, which is the

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direction that our particular military base and min not is

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and I see this light shoot up from the ground

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and shoot away from me. Couldn't explain it. You know,

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some people could argue, oh, it's a meteor. Yeah, I

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could understand that metea coming from the horizon, But then

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why would it change direction and shoot in another direction?

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That doesn't make sense to me. Can't explain it, not

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saying it's aliens or UFO. Could have been a military operation,

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and you know a jet just took off, but from

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a non aerial area. Landing area is questionable to me.

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So I've had those instances, but I can't explain just

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that one. The other one I obviously could because my

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wife was there. If I it wasn't there, I would

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have been like totally UFO. I have no clue what

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it was.

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Yeah, absolutely, I recalled you telling me about the one

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that shot up from the horizon and went off like

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shot off somewhere. But it's been a while. Do you

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recall like when it actually disappeared as it left, Was

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it just a blip and gone or did you see

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it traveling away for quite a while.

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I saw a quick stream of light and then nothing.

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Okay, as it left okay, and it wasn't super like

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windy that day or anything like that, not.

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That I recall. It's been a long long time though.

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Yeah, I'm just like, you know, it's like one of

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those things where again we want to try to debunk it,

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and like, I'm like, well, what could it have been

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a flare that someone shotting the air? Super windy and

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it wind it blew the flare away and it just

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looked like a flash and then just died out. You know,

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that's something that obviously you'd have to test in the

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right environment, but it's hard to get the right environment

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without you're basically sitting around waiting for the wind to

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pick up. But you know, I've had my own encounters

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as well that have been interesting. One just a few

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weeks ago that I told you about which happened right

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over downtown Cleveland, and this one I think has been debunked.

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I think I debunked it, but I again, I don't

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know because I didn't have Like I tried to get

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video of it, and unfortunately by the time I got

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to underneath it, it was gone. But there's an airport,

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a lakefront airport, downtown Cleveland, and right above it there

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was this. I was probably about a good ten miles away,

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and I saw it kind of hovering over the buildings,

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and normally I would think, oh, it's just the helicopter.

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But it was huge, and then it got small, and

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then it got huge again, and it would kind of

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change shape like that, and sure one could say, well,

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it's flying sideways. And then it turned and its back

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or front was facing me. And then it turned again

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and you could see the side, so a big small, big, small,

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but it was pure white. I didn't see any lights

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on it. There were no blinking lights. There was nothing

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that kind of signified it was an airplane or a helicopter.

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Even when I started getting closer, roughly one and a

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half miles away, I could still not figure out what

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it was, even though I saw it hovering between the buildings,

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and again once I got there, it disappeared. However, a

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few days ago, I was actually driving along kind of

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the same route, the same highway, and I was much

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closer to downtown, and I saw a bip or not

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but a jet take off from Lake Front Airport and

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it was bright white, looked just like the object that

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I saw, but like an airplane, does it takes off

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and it keeps either keeps going straight or does a

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U turn and goes whatever direction it needs to go.

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But typically it's flying higher and higher and higher. So

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even though there's a possibility it was just an airplane

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because they looked similar, I still have to question why

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was it floating above the city. Why didn't it just

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fly off in whatever direction it was supposed to go.

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Why was it between the buildings at a time and

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out above it? And again that's just one of those

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instances where I don't know.

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You know, yeah, And there is one other instance where

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we both witnessed it, and then I think you mentioned it,

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and then Shelley mentioned it, and then last year it

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happened again where we were watching the fireworks in my backyard.

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We saw this thing. Had no clue what it was

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because I hadn't seen any announcements about anything. I don't

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think anybody else had, because they're like, what the hell

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is it? And we thought it was a UFO. Come

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to realize it was a drone. And that's something to

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start thinking about when you guys see these things in

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the sky as well, is drones have become much more

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popular and much more accessible to the public where you

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could be seeing something it doesn't necessarily have flashing lights

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on it, maybe a light and then it's moving in

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a very weird, particular way that you've never seen before.

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Start debunking it. I think that's the one thing is

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paranormal investigators we can't preach enough is debunked, debunked, bunk because,

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as Eric mentioned earlier, we get all of these different

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things from people saying, oh, it's this, it's that, and

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then we look at it and we're like, yeah, it's

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not what you think it is. And Eric, you've had

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this instance in some particular groups where they're like, no, no,

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it's you're wrong. It's exactly what we're saying it is.

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It's incredible how many people are just susceptible to a

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photo without taking the time to actually debunk things, like

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there are things that I've seen that are so clear

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as day a natural cause, and I will point out

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every little thing and people are like, you're wrong, it's

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a ghost. Bless you. Okay, but you know, it's just

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how some people are like that there, you know, and

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there's nothing wrong with it. Like you want to we

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all want to, we all want to experience something your paranormal,

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something weird, something out of the ordinary, right. I mean,

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I'll be honest, like, if to this day I'd never

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experienced a haunting or a demonic oppression or something like that,

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I would be very skeptical if anything spiritual existed. But

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I both unfortunately and fortunately have had many, many, many

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experiences with such beings and entities or spirits and entities

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that it's simple fact that for me that these things exist.

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And if things like ghosts, things like the demons, things

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like various gods or goddesses or something like that that

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might exist, then why not the cryptids, why not alien

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exists in such a treasure existence? Why not all these

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other things that we are over here looking for? And big?

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But it's a big one, and that kind of fits

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right in here with our UFO thing, because there's been

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a lot of discussion over the last two or three

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years as to whether or not it's actually a cryptid,

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an extraterrestrial, or a forced spirit of some sort.

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Yeah. Well, something else we've been seeing recently is people

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claiming sightings of portals portals in the sky. Some people

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have been showing videos of portals right in front of

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them that they've created these devices to uh open a

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window or a portal or doorway into other realities or

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other parts of our reality. And you know, are they fake?

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The majority probably yes, they're fake. I think you've debunked

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quite a few. Some are really questionable about what exactly

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is going on, if it is AI, if they're manipulating

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with photoshop after or is it after effects, yeah, photoshop

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after effects, and or does it have to do with

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UAP's UFOs, how they're coming here or are we perceiving

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them as crafts And they're actually portals as you mentioned earlier.

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Right, And that's something that just you know, it's still hard.

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We can't prove it. We can't test it unless we're

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actually there. We can't. It's even hard to believe it

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unless you see it in person because some of the

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portals that we have been seeing around the world, there's

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a handful of people who claim to have seen it.

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I mean, if these portals are as huge as they

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look on social media, this should be worldwide news. It

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should be spreading like wildfire, and it isn't. When you

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actually look it up. There's so much skepticism regarding it,

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and so many different people trying to debunk it and

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everything from you know, your normal everyday paranormal investigator to

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meteorologists who are there saying, no, that's not a portal.

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It's actually just this, you know, some sort of light

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phenomenon from rains and storms during the time with sun,

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you know, shooting through the clouds, creating this kind of

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image that looks like a portal, and I fortunately just

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one of those things we don't know. Now. Obviously, there's

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been a lot of big discussion regarding portals ever since

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the particle accelerator was first started, and there's been a

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lot of big things that seem to have shifted and

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changed since that happened. So whether or not, let's just say,

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for example, that they are real, that these portals do exist,

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we have at least some sort of I guess idea,

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or at least we can assume that they started because

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of this accelerator turned on that just kind of opened

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up a based time continuum to allow us to see

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things that normally we wouldn't see.

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Now you mentioned it being brought up that it's light

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being hit by rain and whatever. Let me tell you

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about a story about Roswell. Now, granted I'm not saying

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the government's behind this, And it would only be questionable

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if they said, like in the Roswell incident, that it's

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a craft and then they're like, oh no, it's a

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weather balloon. Completely different situation. And the UFO things that

464
00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:18.640
happened was a twenty twenty one, twenty twenty.

465
00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:21.200
Two, twenty I think it was twenty twenty.

466
00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:25.519
Two, okay, where even the government was like, we don't know,

467
00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:29.000
we think it's China. China's like, we don't know, we

468
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:33.480
think it's the US, and it's like, I think our

469
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:37.519
governments really need to start communicating, self warring and understand

470
00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:39.440
what is going on in our world today.

471
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:44.680
I mean it just yes, but I think it also

472
00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:49.480
comes down to in what way can we navigate away

473
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:54.319
from this idea of actually interdrestrial existence. We don't want

474
00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:58.440
people to know that there's something beyond our planet because

475
00:30:58.519 --> 00:31:01.079
there might be mass hysteria. People are going to freak out.

476
00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:03.720
And I mean as if people aren't already loading their

477
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:05.480
fire lives and things just for the heck of it,

478
00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:08.880
at least in the US. But you know how much worse,

479
00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:11.240
like people be pointing fingers, Oh, that person's an alien,

480
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:15.440
This person's an alien. We've seen footage of people claiming

481
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:18.680
someone else as some sort of extraterrestrial so it's very

482
00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:22.880
possible that that's their way of this diffusing this idea

483
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:26.519
or thought of extraterrestrial life by simply pointing fingers at

484
00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:31.680
someone else, another nation, the government, another individual. I mean,

485
00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:33.680
they even said that there were some students that were

486
00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:37.519
out there messing with their own little craft, that they

487
00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:43.039
developed this experimental craft. I mean, okay, I guess, I

488
00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:46.640
mean it's possible. But then they kept popping up four

489
00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:49.920
or five six different places, not only around the country

490
00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:54.400
but even around the world. But you know, here's the thing, though,

491
00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:58.480
The big difference between something like that in which we're

492
00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:01.039
just you know, we got the news telling us and

493
00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:03.839
we got people taking videos and sending them to us,

494
00:32:04.279 --> 00:32:07.839
and that of nineteen forty seven, the Roswell incident, is

495
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:11.599
that many of these videos we personally can't see full proof,

496
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:16.079
usually just these little blurry images that we're seeing. Unfortunately.

497
00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:20.240
The cool thing about nineteen forty seven, and part of

498
00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:23.279
what I like about that story is not only was

499
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:29.480
this particular craft, which was supposedly first an alien spacecraft,

500
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:32.720
but then later a weather balloon. But that craft, whatever

501
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:35.720
it was, was taken to day in Ohio and has

502
00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:41.359
since been stored at a garage there, locked down by

503
00:32:41.400 --> 00:32:43.680
two people, two armed guards at the front of it

504
00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:48.200
at all times. Weird for a weather balloon. Right on

505
00:32:48.240 --> 00:32:51.279
top of that, there's this man known as Jesse Marcel.

506
00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:54.440
Many of our listeners might have heard of that name.

507
00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:57.319
I had the opportunity to speak to Jesse Marcel Junior,

508
00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:01.519
his son, back in twenty thirteen with my my podcast

509
00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:03.680
back Then, which has forgotten truth. You guys heard about

510
00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:07.680
that earlier today. And the cool thing about Jesse Marcel

511
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:12.079
Junior's story is that not only was he coming from

512
00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:16.039
a first person coming as a first person witness, but

513
00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:18.799
he was able to explain the various days leading up

514
00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:22.920
and following that whole event. And he sent pictures or

515
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:25.079
put pictures in a book of his that showed his

516
00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:28.559
father holding this material, this metal like material that would

517
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:31.680
fold and bend a like foil and yet was indestructible.

518
00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:35.039
And another piece of metal of some sort that had

519
00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:39.119
inscriptions written on it, various shapes and whatnot. These are

520
00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:42.960
things that can't really easily be debunked. But there are

521
00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:48.759
also things that can't that can't be unproven. We know

522
00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:54.440
that according to Jesse Marcel Jr. The military came, by

523
00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:58.640
the way, Jesse Marcel was the first person to first responder, Yeah,

524
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:02.359
get on site for the crash. He took some things,

525
00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:06.279
homes and pieces, and the military showed up at his door,

526
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:11.840
confiscated everything from him and that was it. He was

527
00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:17.440
Latin Key. Never heard more about it. So that's some suspicion, right,

528
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:18.960
and we see that a lot when it comes to

529
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:23.800
this kind of spacecraft UFO thing that's happening.

530
00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:30.559
Something you didn't mention in the mass a stereo. Part

531
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:36.880
of it is people questioning their faiths. It being someone

532
00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:41.960
who is a devout Christian if they announced that aliens

533
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:45.840
were real, or say extra treastials made themselves known without

534
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:49.679
our governments being involved, would it make you question your

535
00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:50.320
faith at all?

536
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:53.199
Not in the slightest bit. Not in the slightest bit.

537
00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:59.599
A lot of there are Christians out there who will say, oh,

538
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:05.480
actra treastuals don't exist because the Bible doesn't mention them,

539
00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:10.679
or they say, well, humanity is a unique species. Life

540
00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:13.519
is unique on Earth. Life doesn't exist outside of Earth

541
00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:18.719
because God created it that way. But just because God

542
00:35:18.760 --> 00:35:23.079
doesn't say something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Again, going

543
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:24.880
back to Jesse Marcel Junior, I had asked him a

544
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:30.000
similar question. He too was a Christian, and I asked him, like,

545
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:33.920
how do you deal with the question whether or not

546
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:40.519
God created extraterrestrials or life beyond our planet that is

547
00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:47.440
a thinking, breathing entity like ourselves. And he said, to

548
00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:51.280
sit here and claim that God created something that there's

549
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:54.880
no proof of would be to put the idea in words,

550
00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:57.440
into God's own head of something he never actually did.

551
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:02.840
But to say he didn't create life beyond our planet

552
00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:06.480
is to restrict God of his creative ability and power,

553
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:10.559
because he is creator of the universe. So you're kind

554
00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:16.360
of like in this you're in this little kind of

555
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:18.639
spot in the middle where you can't say one or

556
00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:21.760
the other whether or not these things exist. But I

557
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:24.880
will tell you that if they do, it doesn't change

558
00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:28.159
the truth that I know. It just means that there

559
00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:30.119
was something else out there that He made it, maybe

560
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:33.599
earlier before us, maybe at the same time. Maybe maybe

561
00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:35.960
And this is one of the big things that I've

562
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:41.719
talked about or shared, was that some nephylum at sometime

563
00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:43.519
many of many of you probably know of the Nephylum

564
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:47.599
of the Bible of Genesis and maybe at some point

565
00:36:47.719 --> 00:36:52.239
knowing that these Nephilm were gods to men, there were heroes,

566
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:57.079
renown that they had the ability to create things that

567
00:36:57.199 --> 00:37:02.559
humanity couldn't because these were basically angel human hybrids, they

568
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:06.960
had abilities, they were giants. Then there's a possibility that

569
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:10.320
either before or during the flood, there was some knowledge

570
00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:13.239
to them, They had some knowledge of it, and they

571
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:15.440
were able to create some sort of craft to escape

572
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:19.840
the planet before the flood destroyed everything and everyone, and

573
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:23.159
they have since been living their life outside of Earth's atmosphere,

574
00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:25.760
subware in space. And what we're actually seeing come back

575
00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:30.079
are these nephelum beings now again, is that a stretch, probably,

576
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:35.119
but it's one another. It's another example of the ideas

577
00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:38.159
that are out there within this world. You know, there

578
00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:43.639
are people who strongly believe the extraterrestrial beings, alien entities

579
00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:47.360
are actually demonic entities, and there has been significant evidence

580
00:37:47.360 --> 00:37:50.280
to prove that too. Back in two thousand and I

581
00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:53.119
think it was twenty twelve, maybe I think twenty twelve.

582
00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:58.360
You have the opportunity to speak to David Ruffino, who

583
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:01.440
is the author of Unholy Community. I think it's not

584
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:06.320
a Holy Communion. I was fourteen twenty fourteen. Remember I

585
00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:07.880
was in la at the time. I couldn't join you,

586
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.440
but I listened to this episode. So you talked to

587
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:13.559
David Ruffino, of author of the book on Holy Communion,

588
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:18.320
and he had a number of evidence stacked up on

589
00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:22.719
various cases he'd worked as a pastor in which he

590
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:25.360
was would talk and work with people who were being

591
00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:30.320
abducted by aliens or oppressed by aliens. And he found

592
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:33.320
over and over again that when he was able to

593
00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:38.239
speak to these people about Jesus and cast out these aliens,

594
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:41.119
provide these people with the power of Christ and the

595
00:38:41.119 --> 00:38:46.880
Holy Spirit, these extraterrestrial beings would disappear. These people would

596
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:49.679
no longer become abducted on a regular basis, they would

597
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:51.679
no longer be oppressed, they would no longer see things

598
00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:56.119
in the sky. And so that evidence shows us maybe

599
00:38:56.599 --> 00:39:02.400
maybe extraterrestrials are just a mask for demonic entities. And

600
00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:03.880
the fact that the proof is out there that he

601
00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:06.280
was able to show like, oh, here's this alien entity

602
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:07.960
and cast it out in the name of Jesus and

603
00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:12.440
it will leave. I mean understandable. Most of creation is

604
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:16.280
subject to the name of Jesus. Now, humans are one

605
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:20.159
of those who get the opportunity to the opportunity to

606
00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:23.199
say no and not accept that reality because we were

607
00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:26.039
given free will. But the fact that these entities, whatever

608
00:39:26.039 --> 00:39:30.000
they were, left, that's interesting. And that's not to say

609
00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:33.400
again because I want to cover all basis that all entities,

610
00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:36.880
all extra treasures are in fact and demonic. But it's possible,

611
00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:40.360
I was going to bring that up, but it's possible

612
00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:46.559
that these particular entities were just masquerading as extraterrestrials and

613
00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:50.320
therefore doing their work, you know, keeping people away from God.

614
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:56.199
Yeah, I mean it could be either both or somewhere

615
00:39:56.199 --> 00:39:59.480
in between. Who Yeah, right, we can't determine right now

616
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:03.559
because we're limited in how we can do our research.

617
00:40:03.840 --> 00:40:06.519
Right. But you know, I will tell you though, like

618
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:09.239
all you have to do is look into some ancient history,

619
00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:12.159
you know, and you will see all kinds of writings,

620
00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:15.199
all kinds of drawings which depicts some sort of spacemen

621
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:17.719
or some sort of craft looking thing in the air.

622
00:40:18.639 --> 00:40:21.800
I mean, even in the Holy scriptures, you know, in

623
00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:25.960
the Holy Bible, the Book of Ezekiel. Ezekiel describes God

624
00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:28.760
descending from heaven, and the way he describes it sounds

625
00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:32.440
like a spaceship. Now again, I'm not going to say

626
00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:35.760
that he was descending in a spaceship, but at the

627
00:40:35.880 --> 00:40:39.760
time Ezekiel didn't have the proper words to explain what

628
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:42.000
he was truly seeing, so he explained them the best

629
00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:43.880
he could in a human way. And I kind of

630
00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:45.880
want to go through that because it's kind of pretty cool.

631
00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:50.159
So Ezekiel won four twenty eight says living You talked

632
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:53.360
about living beings, four winged human like beings with four faces,

633
00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:58.360
straight legs, and brass feet. Okay, brass feet is interesting.

634
00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:01.480
There were wheels. There are four wheels that appeared to

635
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:04.719
be made of clear and yellow jewels, and they can

636
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:08.679
move in any direction and always move with the living beings.

637
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:11.559
So this is something free floating that seems to be

638
00:41:11.639 --> 00:41:16.239
mechanical moving. There was fire, and the fire looked like

639
00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:22.280
small torches that glowed brightly and flashed like lightning. And

640
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:25.079
then there was a throne, and the throne of God.

641
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:30.280
The throne that God sits on was like a crystal,

642
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:36.719
a crystal plane that sat above the living beings. And

643
00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:42.119
it's very interesting those descriptions because it very well comes

644
00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:47.559
off as being some sort of mechanical object that was

645
00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:50.440
flying down. And again whether or not that's what he

646
00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:53.199
was seeing, was something mechanical or just trying to describe

647
00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:55.760
what he was seeing about angels and the spirits and

648
00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:59.840
trying to explain to us what it looked like to him.

649
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:05.119
I mean, again, we can't ask Ezekiel unfortunately, right, but

650
00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:07.400
we do see things like that that are representing throughout

651
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:09.920
ancient history, where there are little things that people are

652
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:14.400
talking about or drawing about that kind of relate to

653
00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:18.480
or very much relate to what we do today is

654
00:42:18.519 --> 00:42:19.519
extraterrestrial life.

655
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:27.320
Yeah, I mean I've seen a lot of people bringing

656
00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:32.519
up hieroglyphs, even with saying this or that. There have

657
00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:36.239
been people that pointed out in the painting of the

658
00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:40.679
Last Supper that there is some hint to UFOs and

659
00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:46.000
even Atlantis in the background. It's stretching in my opinion,

660
00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:50.840
and people have could have altered these images that they post.

661
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:58.880
But yeah, I mean it not just paintings and descriptions

662
00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:04.719
I'm sorry, higher lifts, but descriptions because our human minds

663
00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:10.199
are so limited and how we can describe something who

664
00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:15.280
knows that in the Bible specifically, Yeah, it all could

665
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:17.239
have been a description of what they were seeing as

666
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:23.239
a depiction of God. But it's one of those things

667
00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:28.159
that makes you question things too, which is one of

668
00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:30.039
a whole other topic I think.

669
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:32.639
I mean, it's true, and there are a lot of

670
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:37.880
there are a lot of UFO hunters or people who

671
00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:42.519
are looking for an explanation for extraterrestial existence, and they

672
00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:46.800
will point to that particular scripture to show that UFOs

673
00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:49.840
do exist in the Bible. Now, again, I'm not going

674
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:51.960
to go that far. I do think that that description

675
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:55.000
is a stretch for what we know today as UFOs,

676
00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:58.440
because again, I mean I personally, how many times doesin

677
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:01.079
have I struggled on our show to even come up

678
00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:03.960
with the word cool? And I'm like lost, I'm like,

679
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:05.400
I don't know what the word is. You're like, is

680
00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:08.119
it the word cool? Yeah, that's the word man, that

681
00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:09.920
I've been trying to figure out the last thirty minutes.

682
00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:13.320
So imagine me trying to explain something like that. It's

683
00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:18.280
going to be wild. But you know, nonetheless, there are

684
00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:22.840
obviously a lot of people who will go the distance

685
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:26.519
to try to prove the existence of something, even if

686
00:44:26.519 --> 00:44:29.360
they have to tweak or manipulate a little piece here

687
00:44:29.440 --> 00:44:31.840
or there in order to get that vision to come

688
00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:33.400
to life for others.

689
00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:38.639
Absolutely. So the last part of this, to wrap it

690
00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:43.000
all into one big bow, is is anything that we've

691
00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:46.800
talked about today good enough evidence to say that it

692
00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:50.000
is aliens or that even that aliens exist?

693
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:58.800
Come on, now, you know I can't no, I can't

694
00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:02.400
say that like until we have hard evidence, like and I

695
00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:05.599
mean hard evidence as in, like, you know, a craft

696
00:45:05.679 --> 00:45:08.679
lands and alien beings walk out of it. We've taught,

697
00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:11.440
we've heard about the grays and reptilians, and you know,

698
00:45:11.440 --> 00:45:13.800
we had someone on our show actually which maybe well

699
00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:17.920
we released at some point here who talked about visiting

700
00:45:18.039 --> 00:45:21.320
the what is the Galactic Federation, right, and she had

701
00:45:21.360 --> 00:45:24.840
made in communication with being in communication with them, yes, constantly,

702
00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:27.280
and that she even went so far as to fly

703
00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:32.440
on this particular spacecraft with one of her closest extraterrestrial

704
00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:34.960
friends and he would let her fly around and stuff

705
00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:39.599
like that. Like it it's a really really interesting episode

706
00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:42.000
and hearing everything she had to say kind of has

707
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:45.760
you wondering. But with that said, like to sit here

708
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:48.719
today and say, yes, it's one hundred percent for real

709
00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:52.679
that they exist. I don't know it's you know, I can't.

710
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:56.719
I can't make that decision without a little more proof.

711
00:45:56.920 --> 00:46:00.960
But I will say that will argue that something does

712
00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:05.400
exist out there, because I don't believe. Mind you, science

713
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:10.039
tells us. Scientists tell us that the universe is continuously expanding,

714
00:46:11.239 --> 00:46:15.119
and it's been expanding for billions of years, but they

715
00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:17.639
don't know where the universe ends, and they technically don't

716
00:46:17.639 --> 00:46:20.360
know where it begins. And so as far as we know,

717
00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:24.079
the universe as we know it is infinite. And if

718
00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:27.079
you're telling me that we are the only life in

719
00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:33.159
the entirety of the infinite universe, I'm hard pressed to say.

720
00:46:33.199 --> 00:46:36.440
I don't believe it. There's something else out there. We

721
00:46:36.519 --> 00:46:39.840
know that angel I know not everyone else necessarily, But

722
00:46:39.960 --> 00:46:44.159
I believe angels exist. I've witnessed them. I believe God exists.

723
00:46:44.199 --> 00:46:49.639
I've witnessed him. They live in the heavens, whether that's

724
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:54.719
the space as we know it, as you know, the

725
00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:58.280
stars are considered a spot in heavens. But there's also

726
00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:01.840
believe that there's heaven beyond our sorry space, beyond outer

727
00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:04.519
space and that is the Throne room or the heavens

728
00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:08.440
of the angelic beings. And could all these things that

729
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:11.840
were witnessing just be spiritual entities that are in physical

730
00:47:11.880 --> 00:47:14.199
form or taking some sort of form and showing themselves

731
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:18.280
to us. Maybe could it be portals? Maybe could it

732
00:47:18.440 --> 00:47:21.960
just be military craft? Maybe you know, if we just

733
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:23.840
keep on going and going and going, and we won't

734
00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:28.480
know until I think they actually show us themselves, because

735
00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:29.960
I don't believe the government is going to be the

736
00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:32.920
one to show us well.

737
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:35.519
And I've I've brought this up to you multiple times

738
00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:40.400
on paratruth even that you know, if people released video,

739
00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:47.480
even news organizations released video of Jesus coming from Heaven

740
00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:52.000
back to Earth, and you know they're they're reporting on this,

741
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:56.079
they're saying it's real, plenty of people would be like, no, no, no, no, no,

742
00:47:56.320 --> 00:48:00.400
that's cgi. You can see right there that he's he's

743
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:08.000
not floating. It's all background and whatever, in your opinion,

744
00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:14.599
outside of a news organization airing it on TV. Let's

745
00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:18.599
just say, what would it take for people to believe

746
00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:22.320
that it's real? Would it be our governments saying, you

747
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:25.320
know what we have been lying to you this entire time.

748
00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:29.679
Aliens are real. We've been in communication with them. We're

749
00:48:29.719 --> 00:48:33.079
really sorry. They're wanting us to start announcing it. What

750
00:48:33.119 --> 00:48:35.400
would it take for people to actually believe it? Because

751
00:48:35.559 --> 00:48:39.159
what we've talked about through this entire thing is how

752
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:43.360
people can manipulate things, and it would be a lot

753
00:48:43.400 --> 00:48:44.360
for people to believe it.

754
00:48:44.920 --> 00:48:47.840
You're right, and hard. It's hard to say, you know.

755
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:50.199
I think for many people it's going to be seeing

756
00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:52.559
it with their own eyes in person, not on TV.

757
00:48:53.559 --> 00:48:57.800
So for example, if the president, whether the United States,

758
00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:02.760
are any country or whatever anywhere, is on a stage

759
00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:07.280
and says this is such and such an extra stresshold

760
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:10.719
from outer space, and that being a person walks up

761
00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:14.079
to us or walks up to him, we might be like, Okay,

762
00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:16.679
this is a live event, this is really happening. Of course,

763
00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:18.960
many of us will question whether or not it's a suit,

764
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:21.719
whether or not someone's just dressed up and it's all

765
00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:25.519
being faked. But you know, I think for many people

766
00:49:25.519 --> 00:49:28.599
it's just going to be I think it's going to

767
00:49:28.639 --> 00:49:30.519
be something. It's going to have to be something drastic,

768
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:36.760
like I mean, I mean, like like alien invasion type

769
00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:37.320
of drastic.

770
00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:42.360
Them appearing to pretty much everybody and being a part

771
00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:42.760
of our.

772
00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:46.400
Culture or coming to destroy our cultures well and the

773
00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:52.599
world itself. Yes, either one. Ind yeah, either one. But

774
00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:55.800
you know what, then again, it's it's just hard, you know.

775
00:49:55.840 --> 00:49:59.960
It's it's like you had mentioned how people you know

776
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:02.199
of Jesus sort of come down today. People would not

777
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:05.320
believe it even if it was real, And unfortunately, that's

778
00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:07.159
just how it is, that's how it's meant to be.

779
00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:09.079
In fact, Scripture is very clear on it that there's

780
00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:13.079
going to be a kind of a blinder on people

781
00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:15.920
when even God comes back, and they will be in

782
00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:18.559
that situation where they see but don't believe. And I

783
00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:22.599
think it'll be the same way with extraterrestrials. We can

784
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:27.920
see them, literally, hear them, maybe even touch them, and

785
00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:29.199
still refuse to believe.

786
00:50:32.119 --> 00:50:35.079
All right, So we're coming to the end of this.

787
00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:40.880
Any final thoughts before we close it up.

788
00:50:41.920 --> 00:50:45.599
Uh yeah, make sure you wear your tinfoil hats because

789
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:46.599
things are getting crazy.

790
00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:52.519
I encourage everybody to make sure you're doing a lot

791
00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:58.079
of research. As we mentioned, dubunk, dubunc dubunk. I cannot

792
00:50:58.239 --> 00:51:03.159
encourage that enough. Regardless if you're doing paranormal investigations, you're

793
00:51:03.199 --> 00:51:06.800
looking into the sky, you're doing cryptid hunting. Please make

794
00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:10.360
sure you are debunking what you're hearing, what you're seeing,

795
00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:15.599
get actually really good video of what you're seeing. Because

796
00:51:16.360 --> 00:51:18.800
there have been so many times, and we've mentioned this

797
00:51:18.920 --> 00:51:22.559
on our show. I can't even count how many times

798
00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:27.920
that all of these clips are blurry, nobody else is

799
00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:30.920
reacting to them. Maybe make sure you have somebody with you,

800
00:51:33.719 --> 00:51:38.960
and people will try and explain away the blurriness, why

801
00:51:39.079 --> 00:51:42.920
somebody's not reacting way that they should all of the stuff.

802
00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:47.760
But I encourage you to please do research, debunk make

803
00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:51.480
sure you're talking things through with people, not just arguing,

804
00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:57.239
because we've come across that too. And in the end,

805
00:51:57.440 --> 00:52:00.559
it is your guys' decision on what you believe. But

806
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:06.760
take our word heart, do research yourself, and in the

807
00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:10.719
end come to a better conclusion then that it's absolutely real,

808
00:52:11.079 --> 00:52:15.320
because in the paranormal community, you have to have a

809
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:20.119
certain level of skepticism in anything that you're seeing.

810
00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:21.360
At least in our opinion.

811
00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:25.280
Well, I think in a lot of the people in

812
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:28.920
the paradigm. Absolutely absolutely. I will say that we've worked

813
00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:32.079
with a couple of individuals who would fake and I

814
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:34.519
don't want to bring that up, but yes I always comes.

815
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:39.679
But like drawing off of what you just said too,

816
00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:42.840
If if any of you have photos or videos, whether

817
00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:47.280
a UFOs or anything else that is crypted or spiritual

818
00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:50.159
or whatever, please send them our way because I love

819
00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:52.119
taking a look at that stuff and I really want

820
00:52:52.159 --> 00:52:54.360
to be I want to see real stuff. If I

821
00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:58.880
can debunk it, you know, we'll see. But if not,

822
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:01.760
then maybe we even share it right here on air.

823
00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:04.280
Yeah, we would love to discuss it on air and

824
00:53:04.280 --> 00:53:07.920
get other people's opinions and comments and concerns as well.

825
00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:11.440
Talk about it in the chat for our videos as well.

826
00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:14.400
We got a lot of great stuff coming up for you.

827
00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:20.960
I am working on guests. We are rapidly going into

828
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:24.280
the Christmas and Thanksgiving season already easy.

829
00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:26.360
Crazy, which, by the way, sorry to cut you off.

830
00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:30.159
I hope everyone had a great Halloween. Oh yeah, well

831
00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:31.639
our favorite time of year obviously.

832
00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:35.400
No no blades in the apples or candy and all

833
00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:36.119
that good stuff.

834
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:38.599
Yeah, whoa, we don't have to go there.

835
00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:42.840
It's something we actually haven't discussed. It should be our

836
00:53:42.840 --> 00:53:44.000
next Halloween episode.

837
00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:46.920
It's something that has never happened in my lifetime, so.

838
00:53:46.760 --> 00:53:51.199
Well, the urban legend is basically what I'm talking about, right, right, right,

839
00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:55.199
But yeah, make sure that you're having a great season.

840
00:53:55.280 --> 00:53:57.840
We've got so much to talk about. We always do

841
00:53:57.960 --> 00:54:04.119
a Christmas and New Year's episode, and I had the

842
00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:07.360
opportunity to talk to Michelle and they do a New

843
00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:11.360
Year's episode as well. So make sure you're tuning in

844
00:54:11.400 --> 00:54:16.280
every week to Paratruth Radio to United Paranormal Radio Network

845
00:54:16.320 --> 00:54:20.239
in one of seven point seven FM, New Orleans, where

846
00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:25.280
we will be pre recorded streaming every Sunday at five

847
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:29.760
pm Eastern Time until then. My name is Justin and

848
00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:31.440
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