Oct. 5, 2025

Mesopotamia Entities & The Labubu: Mystery Ancient Spirits In Modern Toys

Mesopotamia Entities & The Labubu: Mystery Ancient Spirits In Modern Toys

Are Labubu dolls just strange collectibles, or do they hide something ancient within their design? This episode of ParaTruth: Reborn explores Mesopotamian mythology and its eerie connection to modern pop culture.

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Welcome, well well do beary truth. Welcome everybody to Paratruth Reborn.

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My name is Eric and I'm Justin and I am

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glad to be here with you all again. It's been

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a wild summer so I've missed you. I've missed you too,

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I missed the show. I missed all of it. Man.

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I'm glad to be here today though, and hopefully this will,

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you know, it'll be more consistent. It's coming weeks. But

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you know, hey, I'm here and we got a show

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to talk about, any joy, So uh sorry, thanks. So

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I got a question for everybody, what if the dolls

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on your shelf weren't just collectibles but vessels echoing ancient spirits?

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See on this episode today we will discuss that very

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thing as we explore Mesopotamian entities and the possible connection

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to the intriguing La Booboo dolls.

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Yep, and you know, we'll get into what the Mesopotamia

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entities are, who they were, why they still matter today,

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and how it kind of connects to the dolls and

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other popular dolls throughout modern history.

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When our Mesopotamia is often referred to as the cradle

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of civilization because it was the site of some of

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humanity's earliest and most influential in as, including the development

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of agriculture, complex city states, writing systems, and early empires.

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Located in the fertile land between the Tigris and Euphrates

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River modern day Iraq, it fostered the growth of powerful

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civilizations like the Sumerians. Something else that's interesting about the

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Tigris and Euphrdes River, there's a third river which is

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not mentioned terre and is not released or I think

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it's third or fourth river, But the Garden of Eden

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also happened to exist in that particular area according to

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the scriptures. So you know, I just find that very

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interesting since we see it both scripturally, but we also

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see it archaeologically as significance. Now, Mesopotamian mythology featured a

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complex supernatural hierarchy of gods, malevolent demons, and powerful protective spirits,

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often with hybrid animal human forms. Now, while gods like

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and Key could offer wisdom and aid, offer wisdom and aid,

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but then also demons such as Lemashtu who caused harm,

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particularly to women and children, protective spirits and artifacts like

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the fearsome demon Pazutsu or monumental la massu status statues,

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sorry statues. Uh. We're used to ward off evil by

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harnessing or intimidating belign forces through rituals and amulets, reflecting

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a belief that fighting fire with fire could offer protection.

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And we kind of see the same thing also still

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in modern days. Modern times with the rituals and the

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ambulance will also because it's right around the corner. Let's

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consider the jackal lantern that many people around the world

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use on Halloween. There are faces carved in them, often

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scary faces, in order to ward off demonic or evil

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spirits that are looking to terrorize families. So, in a sense,

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fighting fire for fire minus that the jack of lanterns

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aren't necessarily embodied by or endowed by an actual spirit.

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Right well, and I mean people still use the evil

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Eye amulet.

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Yes, yeah, that's a really big one.

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Now, there are a number of different umisants that I've

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already talked about, but I'm going to go a little

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deeper into a few of these. The first one is Pazuzu.

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H He's a powerful demon of the wind. Now, Pazuzu

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had a frightening hybrid form with a lion's head, eagles,

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claws and wings. Though a threat, his terrifying nature was

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harnessed to protect against other evil spirits, most notably the

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demonesse La mache too, and was used in ambulets, statuettes,

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and rituals. Now Lamassu another particular spirits of Messopandamia. These

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were protected spirits in particular which were depicted as monumental

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winged bulls or lions with human heads guarding cities and palaces.

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I think the sphinx, but do a little bit different.

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Yeah, yep. There were also benevolent hybrids. Some spirits with

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hybrid human animal features were considered benevolent audience, protecting state

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and king. Then, of course we have La mache to,

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which we just mentioned earlier at Demones. She's a female

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demon known for praying unpregnant women and newborns. Lamache Too

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was a common subject for protective ambulants featuring Bazuzu. Then

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we had the Galla demons. Now these were malevolent spirits

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of the underworld who snatched humans and dragged them into

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the nether world, right.

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Which is a common trope throughout religions.

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One and then of course we have are that Lily

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and lelou. These are female and male spirits who, as

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restless ghosts, sought to harm the living.

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didn't put in the notes is the word demon. Here

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is translated from the Greek word damon, which literally just

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meant spirit. It had no malevolent or belevolent attachments to

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it in the Greek translation.

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Now, as we were talking about earlier, there are protection

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against the more benevolent entities that people have used throughout

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the ages, uh, but in particular within Mesopotamia as well. Now,

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some of these protections included ambulets uh, sometimes as already stated,

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depicting Pazuzu to protect against other malevolent spirits. There were

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also rituals and incantations, and of course there were a

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figurative power. Uh. Basically, Mesopotamians believed that by capturing the

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likeness of a demon in miniature form, they could harness

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its power against it. And this is something that we

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also kind of see in some of the lesser Key

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of Solomon writings that Alistair Crowley had helped kind of

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you know, fix up. Uh. We see a lot of

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very similarities in the the the the images of the

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demons that are depicted depicted UH within the lesser key

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of Solomon. We also know that many demons based on

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some of these UH descriptions, and not just saying demons also,

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so angelic beings kind of fit this mold of part human,

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part animal being a mixed match of a number of

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different things, and we see it throughout various faiths and

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religions throughout the world.

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Now something that I had I had never heard of

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Labubu dolls before before this past year actually, but Laboo

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dolls were actually created by a Hong Kong born artist

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named Casing Ling in twenty fifteen, is part of his

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illustrated book series. The Monsters, and the characters were actually

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inspired by Nordic folklort, not Japanese or Chinese, and are

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described as mischievous but kind hearted. The dolls are a

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collaboration between Casting Lung and the toy company PopMart, which

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began producing them in twenty nineteen. People think the boots

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are cute because of the unique creepy cute aesthetic, and

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we'll get into why humans are attracted to this creepy

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cute Because I think Eric, you and I are both

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attracted to the creepy cute esthetic.

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I'm right, a weird thing.

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I'm not. I'm not attracted to the Boo dolls. As

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a matter of fact, I don't. I don't care for

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him at all.

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To be I I've got friends who have the lu

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Boo Boo dolls, and I'll admit that I have been

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kind of attracted to them. I think they're they're fun

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little creatures, but they're remind me kind of of the

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what we call the critters, Oh yeah, from the movie. Yeah.

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I have two dolls that were created by somebody at

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a comic con and they're they're the Critter dolls, not

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Labo Boo dolls.

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Right, but they remind me very similar, very similar way,

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only you know, the Critter dolls are much creepier because

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cuteness to.

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There's not at all. But these dolls combine whimsical, kydlie

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features with a mischievous or devilish grin, making them stand

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out in a niche sweet spot that appeals to individual

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individuality and desire to express a unique personal style. And

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you see this throughout pop culture even when we were

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growing up. And again we'll get into some of the

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other stuff that was kind of inspired by Japanese folklore,

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the trickster demons and stuff like that. Their collectibility, the

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excitement of the hunt for rare or limited edition blind

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box figures. You see that even in you know, Funko

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pops and stuff like that today, and their viral presence

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on platforms like TikTok also a tribute to their widespread appeal.

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And I must be on the wrong side of TikTok

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because I have yet to see anybody who is trying

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to popularize lab Boo Boo dolls.

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Yeah, I've not seen them, but yeah, I mean I

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I've definitely seen them around May mostlessly because I've been

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looking them up because my friend she's been sending me

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foot as of all the ones that she gets, so

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I've I've checked them out. I want to see what

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kind of They're very customizable, and you have all these special,

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like you said, limited addition pieces that can range anywhere

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from you know, a few bucks to several thousand, which

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is crazy but also cool. I mean as a collector.

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I mean, you guys, anyone who watches YouTube channel you

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can see my background. I obviously collect a number of things,

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but you know, I it's it's definitely like I know,

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the the Boo dolls, the hard word it is, are

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extremely popular, especially among the younger generations. And I wouldn't

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say that the growing, you know, in stature in terms

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of what they are, but I think they are going

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to continue getting bigger, much like Pokemon did. I think

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there's going to be TV shows probably that come off

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of these type of things as well. But yeah, very collectible. Yeah.

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Now, these these things, I'm going to call them things

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became popular due to a mix of different celebrity endorsements,

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one of which is the k pops are Lisa from Blackpink.

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Don't know who that is, I'm not a K pop person.

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The viral nature of social media, of course, and the

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collectible blind box format that creates scarcity and the excitement

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of the hunt for rare characters. Again, we see this

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throughout any any collectible things. It's unique mischievous aesthetic and

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blurring of the lines between toy and fashion also contribute

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to its appeal, creating a sense of exclume, civity and

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a jury status within the art toy markets. Now, the

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Little Booboo dolls feature wide eyes, sharp teeth, animal like fur,

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and again that mischievous grin you mentioned critters. Yes, the

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one thing that these things remind me of is I'm

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always lose the title of the book. But where the

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Wild Things?

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Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking of.

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Two. Yeah, And you know, I had mentioned that to

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my wife Shelly, and she's like, the most horrible depressing

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movie in the world. And I'm like, I don't think

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I ever saw it, and she's like, yeah, we watched together,

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and I'm like, oh, yeah, you're right. We fall asleep

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to it. I'm trying to remember the books too, and

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I'm like, yeah, they were kind of depressing, but yes, yes,

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I saw.

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I watched the movie, I mean years ago now, but yeah,

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I do recall it being depressing as well. And I don't.

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I mean, I remember, I don't remember the books themselves.

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I remember fragments, you know, of the pages that I

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you know, from the artwork and whatnot. But it is

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on my list to add it to the library though,

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just because it's.

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Nostalgic from our yeah, from our childhood.

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Now, humans are drawn to creepy but qte aesthetics because

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of the interplay between our evolved responses to baby like features,

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which triggered care giving instincts a lot of times in women,

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but in men too, and the thrill of experiencing a

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benign risk by safely engaging with a scary or taboo elements.

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This combination activates the brains pleasure and rewards systems again

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because you're hunting for that specific one, creating a unique

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emotional experience that can be both pleasurable and stimulating. The

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peel of creepy cute also allows for complex emotional exploration

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and artistic expression, leading to its popularity in art and

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pop culture, which I.

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Mean if you if you follow some of the Instagram

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pages that I follow, or even just some of the

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things I click on, I get a lot of the

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creepy cue like paintings and artwork that pop up, especially

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when it's like some sort of you know, distorted looking

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cat with a giant grin and you know, so sort

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of like, uh, what do they call them? Like a

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like a nightmare like nightmare but nightmare the horse that

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they people tend to do artistic renderings of. Uh. But yeah,

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you know that is a very like creepyque is definitely

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on the rise. It's it's not up and coming, it's

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here and it's going to continue to grow. I think

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there's just a It's like with anything in pop culture.

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You know, there's moments within time where we have these

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influx of new artistic ideas that everybody takes a hold too,

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takes a hold of someone, you know, finds interest, and

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that expands, and then we have people who see that

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there are people interested, so then they start to make

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their own and we have this big blow up number

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of people copying each other trying to do things similar

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to you know, cash in quote unquote, and eventually we'll

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probably see it all day out again. I mean it

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might be a long while. I would thought Pokemon was

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long gone, but you know it's not.

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Apparently, No, it's round.

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Something that comes to my mind when you say creepy

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cute is from when I was younger. I don't know

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if they were still as popular when you were born,

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but the garbage pail kids, oh yeah. And I never

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knew that there was a movie until in the past

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several years, and I was like, I've looked at the

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trailer and I'm like, this is horrible, but I gotta

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watch it, just because again, nostalgia, you know, on the cards,

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but you can't find it streaming anywhere, so I'm hoping

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it gets on one of the streaming platforms.

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So yeah, for sure, for sure I had one myself.

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I was gonna share too, but I've already forgot it

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because you're you're talking and I was paying a panchion.

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It'll come to you, don't It'll come.

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It'll pop up in the middle of me saying something else,

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and then the habit trail real fast. But yeah, you know,

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there's definitely been quite a few creepy cute things over

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the years. One of my favorites, which a lot of

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people probably agree with and maybe a lot of people don't,

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but jumping spiders. They're creepy, but they're adorable. I can't

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explain it. It's actually the only spider I'm willing to

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pick up.

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Let's just say you're you're also scared of spiders. I'm

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scared the creepy but cute.

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And I'm not scared of spiders because of how they look.

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It's more so like I don't know, you know, what

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type of venom they have, because I know they're noticing

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what kind of spiders they have. Minus wolf spiders, which

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there are a lot in my area. Jumping spiders who

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always find their way in my house at least two

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a week, always from the state all while, so you know,

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I'm always catching them and like, come on, little dude,

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it's it's you know, it's one of those things where

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it's like when I'm carrying if they're small and I'm

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carrying them and they get out, I just see this

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little thing hop twenty feet in the air. I'm like, no,

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where'd you go? And he's gone. I don't know, but anyway, yeah,

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creepykey fighters jumping spiters in ridicular. Now back to the

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lea Boo boo, and the reason we bring up the

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laboo Boo dolls is that over the last several weeks

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and dare I say even months potentially, there have been

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posts and videos circulating on social media claiming a connection

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to the demon Bazuzu. Now, if you actually take the

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moment to look up bazuzu U and then also look

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of these love booboo dolls, you will see a relatively

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interesting relation between them, for sure. One in particular is

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the big exaggerated eyes, which more or less equals the

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all seeing watchfulness of ancient spirits. Another is horns in

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fur which echoes of demonic or hybrid beings from Mesopotamian myth.

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And the other, which is probably the most prominent on

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both Pazuo Zoo and on these Love Booboo dolls, is

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the mischievous grins. Basically in wrestle Potamian culture and many

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other cultures around the world, trickster spirits or entities that

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blur the line between playful and dangerous ten and a

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half of mischievous grin. Now, on top of that, of course,

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how can we not, you know, mention the obvious weird

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connection of love Boo Boo and Pazuzu, Like that's you know, now,

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I'm I'm not going to sit here and say that

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that's you know. I don't necessarily believe that La Booo

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is actually a representation of Azuzu. But nonetheless, there's some

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interesting things, and I think this is why people have

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been circulating various videos on this subject matter.

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You also have Lamasu, which is kind of a similar

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to La Booboo, and lamashe Too, which is also very

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similar to Labooboo.

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Right, well, now you see one reason this could actually

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uh one reason this could have come about is due

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to Carl Jung's analytical psychology theory, which proposes the mind

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comprises the conscious ego basically the personal unconscious UH and

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individual experiences in this case right, and the collective unconscious

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which is a universal respiratory UH repository of archetypes like

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the persona shadow, animal, and animus and the self. Now,

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the central goal of Jungian theory is individualization, which is

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a process of integrating these psychic elements to achieve wholeness

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and develop a cohesive, authentic self, moving beyond mere conscious

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awareness to embrace the unconscious depths.

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Now, could art and toys carry sub conscious links to

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ancient energies? The simple answer is yes. From the perspective

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of Youngin or JUNGI and I can't remember how it's pronounced.

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Psychology and mythol, mythological studies and art and toys can

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carry some conscious links to ancient energies. Again, you see

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this throughout several different genres. The links are based on

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the concept of archetypes, and you also see this in

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UH fictional writing as well. We always use an archetype

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to help us grow our story. You know, the hero,

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the guide, you know. The list goes on and on.

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There universal primal patterns of thought and imagery that Carl

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Jung believed exist in the collective unconscious, a part of

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the psyche shared by all of humanity. Now, we talked

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about this last week with Fiona Dodwell about how many

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tales exist of inanimate objects that act as vessels for

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paranormal entities or attract strange phenomenon like with dolls, paintings,

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and even jewelry being common reoccurring themes. Fiona brought this

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up several times. She would not just say the dolls,

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but she also would bring up jewelry a lot. Now

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we talk about that, the amulets and stuff, and that's

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the interesting thing. A part or about this particular topic

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is the fact that an entity could be attached to

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these things, which when you buy an amulet, you're not thinking, oh,

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you know, there's going to be a demon or a

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spirit that's attached to it. It's just a representation to

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protect you. There are other toys that have links to

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other ancient archetypes, such as the Muppets Believe it or not,

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because they are kind of a link to the trickster

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traits Pokemon. They're inspired by the yokai, which is a

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creature or creatures and supernatural phenomenon from Japanese folklore. But

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one thing I do want to say about this, if

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you look up Pokemon and the things that they're related to,

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be ready for some frickin' nightmares, because I cannot, I

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cannot look at them at Pokemon after that and really

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look at them the same as creepy cute. They just

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look horrid to me in my in my personal opinion.

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And you know, the list goes on and on.

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You you see a lot of things from even Greek

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and Roman mythology that is kind of associated with creepy cute.

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But the real thing is is these things can have

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some things attached to it, even especially if you get

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it at like a second hand store or something like that.

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So the question really is are Lou Boo Boo dolls

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just art or something even more?

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Right? You know, I that's a hard one to say.

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It's not a hard one to say because I, first

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of all, I do truly think they're just art. First

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and foremost, I think they're just art. And I think

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if there's any comparison to Pazu Zoo, it's simply because

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the creator of the Lububoo maybe had found inspiration in

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this particular entity. Maybe you know, it doesn't even believe

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this entity exists, and maybe it doesn't. Maybe it's just

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folklore that people Mesopotamia had made up, among many other

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entities that we know of, both from ancient times and

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modern I don't think that this particular individual and company

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had created these dolls to be facetious in any way.

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But what I do think is happening here, which is

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really quite sad, is that there is a type of

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fear mongering happening around social media. People are taking this

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idea of the lubuo and comparing it to a quote

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unquote demon entity, which naturally strikes fair. And of course,

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people who are gullible enough they're going to hear this,

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and you know, they're going to have concerns. Potentially, they're

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going to question whether or not they have some demon

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in their room attached their doll. And that's something else

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that we've talked about many times and over over the years.

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You know, maybe these dolls, if you do happen to

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have one and you're noticing something word happening, it may

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not have a spirit connected. It's just the energy that

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you're manifesting on your own. The mind is very strong

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and capable of doing that. So it's important to take

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a step back and consider where these stories are coming from,

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why they have been created, and who those stories are

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being shared with, because a lot of these stories are

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being shared to people who simply are interested in entertainment

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and nothing more.

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Well, and I mean we've talked about this, however many times.

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It has been now about the Luigi board that was

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it has bro or okay, that basically made it into

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a game. But the one conversation I was having with

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Fiona last week was that, you know, how much of

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this is that a a entity is attached to these dolls?

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And how much is it that it's just it's a

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creepy looking doll and then your mind starts laying tricks

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on you. You know, we've talked about creating entities with

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our mind, or maybe even an entity attaching itself to

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the idea that you're thinking of, because that can happen to.

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And it's.

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One of those things that I believe, yes, a entity,

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a entity could attach yourself to one of these dolls. However, I,

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like you, I'm not saying that this was the intent.

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I don't think it was even a hindsight that it

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could be somehow associated with Messipitamian demons, because, like I

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said at the beginning, it's based on Nordic folklore, which

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is a completely separate area of the world, right, But

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I didn't see anything that said what Nordic folklore it represented,

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other than possibly Loki, because Loki is the critic. Yeah,

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so I don't know if you had come across on

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any of that at all or not.

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I have not, you know, but there's like, there are

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so many entities throughout the world, various belief systems and

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stories that are considered trickster types, and many of them

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look kind of similar and have these large grins on

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their faces, but you know, it's it kind of goes

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from like I feel like the whole idea of the

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Grid is to kind of create this. Originally was create this,

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you know, kind of playful yet creepy, Like it's you know,

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it's happy and joyful ones to have fun, but it's

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also dangerous and it's dark and it can cause problems.

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And we kind of see other figures throughout pound culture

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that are similar in a way. One is, of course,

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the eshire Cat. Now we know that based on the

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writings on the book itself. You know, so some of

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these characters are basically supposed to be representations of various

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mental illnesses. But the Treashure Cat is one of those

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particular characters that is kind of creepy with this giant grin,

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these sharp teeth, these interesting creepy eyes stare at you

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from a distance, and who can cloud himself in complete

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mystery by vanishing at the same time? Right, And it

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kind of relays that same message, something that's playful and

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yet something that's mysterious and maybe should you know why why?

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You should probably watch out for right. And we see

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that time and time again with various characters throughout all

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of pop Watcher, movies, books, TV shows, games, et cetera,

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et cetera. So whether or not the Laboo Boo Dolls

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are based on any particular entity, I don't know. Is

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it possibly based on a number of different stories combined,

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you know, like is it West. We could say it's Bazuzu,

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but maybe it is Bazuzu and it's also low key

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and it's also this other character. But other than I

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think it's just based on what I'm seeing, based on

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what I'm understanding from the research, is that these particular

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toys collectibles are nothing more than just collectibles. They don't

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have any sort of dangerous, uh you know, hidden mystery

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behind them. But I do think that people will always

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find a way to just link something innocent to something

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much darker.

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You know, yeah, because I mean it's not like it's

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a repurposed Pazuzu statue or dog right an kind, And

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in that case, I'd be like, yeah, you probably should

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not touch it because there could be an entity attached

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to it regardless, right, But yeah.

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I.

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Know, I I rolled my eyes when you told me

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to look it up, but uh.

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You did. It gave me kind of like a three

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word response of like, oh, maybe we're not going to

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talk about this.

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I thought it'd be interesting, Okay, well I didn't have

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a problem with us doing an episode on it, but

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it was like a really like and then, you know,

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the day of this recording where we were supposed to

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be raptured or gone to the Fifth dimension, I'm going

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to mark myself as safe from the rapture and the

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00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:35.799
fifth dimension right now. But yeah, it again, you know,

470
00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:38.799
things just keep getting weirder and weirder as we go

471
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:43.000
through the years. And you know, when we first started

472
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:47.200
doing podcasting, I thought we had heard it all and.

473
00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:54.000
We haven't yet, right, I mean, it's twenty twenty five

474
00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:58.839
and things. I just you know, every every day, every month,

475
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:03.359
every year, there are stories to be told, there are

476
00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:06.000
prophecies that are made, There are people who want to,

477
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:13.880
you know, a propagate some of these some of these things,

478
00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:17.319
you know, and again, why what is the reason behind it?

479
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:20.440
You know? And in particular, I'm talking about the rapture,

480
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:22.119
like what is the reason for the rap for people

481
00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:25.119
to discussing the nature? We know through scripture that nobody

482
00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:28.359
will know the day or time of Christ's return.

483
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:29.799
It's that simple.

484
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:34.160
Nobody in the history of humanity will ever be able

485
00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:36.359
to tell us what day is going to happen and

486
00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:42.640
be correct. So the fact that people every couple of

487
00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:45.480
years talk about it and it creates this big, widespread

488
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:47.960
panic in some individuals because, mind you, there are people

489
00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:50.039
out there who are scared of the rapture, right, They're

490
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:51.720
scared they're not going to be taken. They're scared that

491
00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:53.440
they are going to be taken and their loved ones

492
00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:55.839
won't be there's a lot of things that people you

493
00:33:56.039 --> 00:33:58.920
feel like they haven't completed yet in life, and they're like,

494
00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:00.119
that's I'm not ready for this.

495
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:00.960
Uh.

496
00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:03.279
And so is it a type of fair mongering? I

497
00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:05.319
think so in some cases. And I don't think it's

498
00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:08.719
a bad thing, you know. I think it's for some individuals,

499
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:12.679
whether you know, whoever you are, whatever reason you believe

500
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:15.119
in the rapture, I think it's a way for either

501
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:18.599
you like these people to want to get away from reality,

502
00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:22.079
escape it and hope for you know, to be taken

503
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:26.840
away and better place, right, a better place. And for

504
00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:30.519
others they use it to try to force people into

505
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:34.199
turning to God. And you know, they put that fear

506
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:36.559
factory in like the raptor is happening. If you're left behind,

507
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:38.760
that's it, you know?

508
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:42.440
Well, And isn't isn't there like a split in Christianity

509
00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:45.599
of those that believe that there is going to be

510
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:47.920
in rapture and those that believe that that there's no

511
00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:48.480
such thing.

512
00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:50.880
Yeah, yeah, there is a split. And it's based on

513
00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:57.119
a very limiting passage within Revelation, And depending on what

514
00:34:57.559 --> 00:34:59.800
version of the Bible you read, you can find evidence

515
00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:03.440
of a rapture or you may not find evidence and unultimately,

516
00:35:03.599 --> 00:35:06.599
like it's one of those things that I don't find

517
00:35:06.679 --> 00:35:10.000
important in a person's salvation. Like the rapture is going

518
00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:14.039
to happen whether you believe or don't. And the main

519
00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:17.840
thing is that you should probably just believe, right, that's

520
00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:21.639
the idea that I'm not saying you should believe free will.

521
00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:24.360
God gave us on free will, y'all, so it's up

522
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:27.960
to you. But you know, the rapture is one of

523
00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:30.760
those things that's like when it happens, it's gonna just

524
00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:34.199
you're not gonna know it. It's gonna less than like

525
00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:36.800
shorter than a blip, like it's just your hair and

526
00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:41.159
then gone right. And the other ones left around are

527
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:43.280
gonna be the ones wondering like why they weren't taken.

528
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:45.719
And we know that in scripture that if indeed the

529
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:47.679
rapture is true, there are going to be some people

530
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:49.920
left behind it. Not all of them are going to

531
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:54.000
be you know, non believers or evil quote unquote evil

532
00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:56.800
people or whatever. Some of them are going to fight

533
00:35:56.880 --> 00:36:00.519
against the devil in the army, the human army, uh,

534
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:04.519
until God comes back. Like and again we don't know

535
00:36:04.679 --> 00:36:07.039
we don't know who's going to be included in the

536
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:10.920
rapture when it's going to happen, if it's going to happen. Right,

537
00:36:11.079 --> 00:36:13.679
the rapture is one of those things that, yeah, it's there.

538
00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:18.599
There's there's a split between the various branches of Christianity.

539
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:24.119
I should be denominations, branches, denominations, same thing. But y'all

540
00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:24.880
know what I mean.

541
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:29.199
And I hate to say that like this because I

542
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:32.599
don't mean disrespect to anybody, But if the rapture happens,

543
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:35.679
I'm left here, I'm gonna be like, oh thank God.

544
00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:39.639
I don't like dealing with people. It doesn't any specific person.

545
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:43.079
I'm not saying at all, it's just dealing with people

546
00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:46.000
in general. Sometimes I'm just like, okay, I'm done.

547
00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:51.639
But yeah, it would be scary though, to be, well, yeah,

548
00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:56.400
you wake up and some of your closest loved ones

549
00:36:56.440 --> 00:36:59.800
or whatever it is gone. You know, the good percentage

550
00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:02.760
the world is gone, Like it's a humanity ming and

551
00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:06.559
it's just like, okay, well, now there are two things

552
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:12.039
that happen. One, we suddenly know the truth, right, if

553
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:14.199
the rapture happens, we know there's God and we know

554
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:18.840
that the scriptures are telling the truth. And on the

555
00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:21.599
second is that you're alone and you've got to figure

556
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:23.239
out what's going to happen next, because there is a

557
00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:26.199
whole lot of stuff that happens after the rapture, and

558
00:37:26.360 --> 00:37:29.559
it's not you know, unicorns and butterflies coming in visiting you,

559
00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:33.480
so you're visiting the earth, I should say, but yeah,

560
00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:35.760
you know, it's it's a scary thing. Revelation in general

561
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:40.000
is a very scary book, and not just for Bible

562
00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:44.199
believing Christians. It's also a scary book for people who

563
00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:48.719
study history. And I've read so many articles by you know,

564
00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:52.800
atheists and non believers who will literally say it like, yeah,

565
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:55.119
this is a scary book, like when you consider it

566
00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:58.559
word for word and the meaning behind it, whether you

567
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:00.840
believe or not, whether God is written or not, it's

568
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:03.400
not good stuff. It's scary things that are happening, but

569
00:38:03.639 --> 00:38:07.400
all for the better outcome, which is the new habit

570
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:11.400
in the Udu Earth, when Jesus reunites with his people

571
00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:14.760
and find the end sin, which means no more suffering,

572
00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:17.280
no more death, no more illness, et cetera, et cetera,

573
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:19.000
which you know, I don't know about you guys, But

574
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:20.840
that sounds like a really good thing.

575
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:28.199
I mean, both you and I have both talked vigorously

576
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:35.159
about living forever, so yeah, but again, what do you

577
00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:39.760
do with that time? Like, if you're living forever and

578
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:43.159
not that you can't always do what your heart desires,

579
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:49.320
but after you've achieved everything you want to achieve, you

580
00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:51.760
know what what's next? If you're living forever?

581
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:53.679
Well, and then and that's the that's the big thing,

582
00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:55.559
you know. I think that's the thing that scares people

583
00:38:55.719 --> 00:38:58.800
in particular about like heaven, you know, and eternity, right,

584
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:02.280
Eternity is a it's a big word here. It's meant

585
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:06.000
to be. And there's been plenty of individuals who've actually

586
00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:10.119
asked straight up, like what happens when I'm board? What

587
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:12.920
happens a million years from now? And I've done everything?

588
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:21.400
And the consistent answer is that because of God's unique

589
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:25.719
and mysterious personality, the fact that he is as awesome

590
00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:28.519
as he is, we as people who would study him,

591
00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:31.519
try to learn from him, try to understand him, even

592
00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:35.119
in eternity, would never fully understand him. We'd still be

593
00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:38.519
trying to figure him out and learn his ways. And

594
00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:40.599
as such, because of a new Heaven and new Earth.

595
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:44.440
There will be a grand, grand, grand multitude of possibilities

596
00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:49.719
and opportunities for people both in our thinking and our understanding,

597
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:51.039
and things that we can do and things that we

598
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:53.760
can see, places we can go, and we will never

599
00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:56.199
get bored because it's not just new Earth, right, It's

600
00:39:56.239 --> 00:39:59.000
not like we're you know, this Earth here is the

601
00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:01.159
same Earth and now has just been renewed, and it

602
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:04.599
looks exactly the same, and it could be completely different,

603
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:08.320
a whole new layout from what we've ever experienced, and

604
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:13.559
way faster. Yeah, I mean, yes, yeah, exactly. I'm sorry

605
00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:15.320
if I keep you guys keep hearing a bump on

606
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:16.840
my mind because I keep bumping it. I'm trying to

607
00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:18.440
stay a little closer to it today and I'm not

608
00:40:18.559 --> 00:40:19.679
used to it so far.

609
00:40:20.119 --> 00:40:21.599
No, I haven't heard it. You're good.

610
00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:22.039
Good.

611
00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:25.920
But to wrap this back to the Boo Boo doll,

612
00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:29.000
for sure, if the rapture happens and those Lule Boo

613
00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:31.719
Boo dolls come to life, then you know, one hundred

614
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:34.920
percent the demons we were attached to the There's things

615
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:37.039
and it was it was all a ruse. You know,

616
00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:39.599
they created these things to help take over the world.

617
00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:45.039
So some final questions for you, guys, and we'd love

618
00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:47.320
to hear your answers. Be sure to reach out to

619
00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:53.039
us email, Instagram, Facebook. I was going to say text,

620
00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:55.239
but you don't have our phone numbers. You're probably not

621
00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:57.599
going to give it to you. Guys, No offense, no offense.

622
00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:00.480
We love you, we just don't trust you.

623
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:05.679
I would number out to anybody i've first met.

624
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:10.360
So question number one, do you own a lu Boo

625
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:12.599
Boo doll or a similar doll like the Luboo Boo?

626
00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:14.679
How many do you have? What is your favorite one?

627
00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:17.599
Let us know we're curious. Like I said, I've got

628
00:41:17.639 --> 00:41:20.239
friends who collect them. They My one friend, she has

629
00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:21.840
a bunch of little, tiny ones, but she also has

630
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:23.840
the three foot one too. I think I think it's

631
00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:28.880
three foot. Yeah, it's huge. It's pretty cool. But yeah,

632
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:32.639
so she has that second question, how do you feel

633
00:41:33.440 --> 00:41:38.880
any energy around object like these? Whether in particular I'm

634
00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:44.559
thinking like new dolls right, or new objects, because anything

635
00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:47.679
old with its history behind it could have some sort

636
00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:54.119
of residual haunting or presence attached to it. And that's

637
00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:55.719
not to say it's a spirit by any means, or

638
00:41:55.719 --> 00:41:59.199
even bad it's just an energy, right, So have you

639
00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:01.639
felt that around objects like the Labu Boo or any

640
00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:05.360
other dolls or objects? And then third, do you believe

641
00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:10.920
modern culture is unconsciously repeating ancient symbols? Uh? And this

642
00:42:11.119 --> 00:42:14.280
is one again where Justin had just talked about we

643
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:16.599
got the Muppets with the Tricksters obviously, the le Boo

644
00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:22.039
Boo with Pazuzu, we had Pokemonu, spread Mother Yokai and

645
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:26.400
so on and so forth. So are we just seeing

646
00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:30.800
this unconscious repeat repetition of ancient symbols coming forth in

647
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:31.440
modern times?

648
00:42:33.199 --> 00:42:35.519
Well, I'll give you my answers. Yeah, I will never

649
00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:37.440
own a La Boo Boo doll, but I do own

650
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:44.320
a voodoo doll, so kind of simple. Have I ever

651
00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:48.440
felt energy off of the voodoo doll? No, I've never

652
00:42:48.519 --> 00:42:50.599
been around of La Boo Boo dolls, so I couldn't

653
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:54.719
tell you. And do I believe modern culture is unconsciously

654
00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:59.159
repeating ancient symbols? And the answer is yes, because we've

655
00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:03.440
said this numerous times both on this show and our

656
00:43:03.480 --> 00:43:07.360
writing show that we had done that there isn't an

657
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:13.079
original story, and a how are you saying that an

658
00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:18.639
original story anymore. It's just adapting things that we have

659
00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:25.800
read seen heard over the years, even playing on archetype archetypes,

660
00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:31.440
basing stuff on religions. So yes, I think in modern

661
00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:37.519
culture chill, something different happens. We will always recycle old

662
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:41.280
ancient symbols. What are your what are your answers to it?

663
00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:46.559
I have not seen a la baboo in a person,

664
00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:49.159
but I have seen photos of them, plenty of them

665
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:53.440
again my friends, but also online, and I still don't

666
00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:55.760
see anything wrong with them. I just think they're creepy,

667
00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:58.840
cute little creatures that you know, people we're gonna have

668
00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:01.559
from collecting them. You know, I have a whole, a

669
00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:04.239
whole little history of fun for a while until it

670
00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:06.599
dies off as something else happened to pplace it, right,

671
00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:16.159
I do not own also at Bodo I own. There's

672
00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:18.599
there's a couple of things I own. Obviously the doll

673
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:21.480
I also have them, which I also didn't feel under

674
00:44:21.639 --> 00:44:23.679
any energy on. But I also may or may not

675
00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:25.519
of cast at energy if there was any off of

676
00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:30.159
it before but in the house. And then I also

677
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:34.800
have a mask, an African mask, which did have heavy

678
00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:40.039
negative energy on it or something people, And so yeah,

679
00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:43.599
that one I cleansed as well. But then the closest

680
00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:45.440
thing that I have that I can think of that

681
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:47.679
is maybe kind of like the Luloo Boo dell or

682
00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:54.280
figure what they're called. They're like skeletons something or bones

683
00:44:54.400 --> 00:44:57.639
bones figures they like, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah,

684
00:44:57.679 --> 00:45:00.000
They're like these little tiny skeleton figures that are dressed

685
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:03.360
in various you know, outfits. I think I have a

686
00:45:03.440 --> 00:45:07.320
blue elephant that's a little little elephant with a skull face,

687
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:09.760
but he's like the elephant is like a costume basically,

688
00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:12.679
and they have a ton of different guns. Like I

689
00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:15.199
got that one way way way back in two thousand

690
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:18.159
and I guess, wasn't that far back. I got that

691
00:45:18.239 --> 00:45:23.440
one to like two thousand and fourteen, I think, but

692
00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:25.159
that was when they were kind of just becoming new.

693
00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:27.920
They're they're yet to be popularized. And now everywhere I

694
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:29.480
go out and see these little guys and I'm like, oh,

695
00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:31.519
there's so many different kinds and I kind of want

696
00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:35.559
to collect them, but they're also getting expensive because you know, inflation,

697
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:46.079
dang it. And last yeah, I mean, yes, the answer

698
00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:48.679
is just yes. I do believe that modern culture will

699
00:45:48.760 --> 00:45:54.440
unconsciously repeat ancient symbols. It's kind of in our DNA

700
00:45:55.840 --> 00:45:58.880
and the I think just the artistic expression of some

701
00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:03.960
of those symbols still ring youew today. They still feed

702
00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:08.559
imagination to end to people. We still see a lot

703
00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:12.039
of we see a lot in them like that, whether

704
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:14.800
you know whatever that is that you see, it's they

705
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:17.760
definitely have their place and they'll continue to show up.

706
00:46:18.639 --> 00:46:22.039
Yeah, well, and you know, I have nothing against Luboo

707
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:25.679
woo dolls. I just I would never collect them, mostly

708
00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:28.519
because I collect enough and I don't need something else

709
00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:29.079
to collect.

710
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:31.199
Two weeks from now, he's gonna say, guys, I got

711
00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:32.000
al boobo doll.

712
00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:37.599
Well, if somebody has sent me one or gifted me one.

713
00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:42.199
So if if you want to send us a Lubu

714
00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:45.280
Boo doll, you can send it to Peo box one,

715
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:52.039
two three four in Idaho, Missouri, Montana at one five six.

716
00:46:57.559 --> 00:47:01.800
We did do a poll for this episode, and the

717
00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:06.800
answers are kind of a mix. We had one person

718
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:14.559
that stated that absolutely that they think modern toys can

719
00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:22.000
carry ancient spiritual symbolism. H two people said sometimes, nobody

720
00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:25.360
said just art, and we had one other person say

721
00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:33.079
not sure, but it's interesting to think about. So again,

722
00:47:33.280 --> 00:47:35.440
on top of those other questions, we would love to

723
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:38.199
hear your answers to the pull too, so make sure

724
00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:42.559
that'll be up, you know, on our social media's throughout

725
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:56.199
recorded history of the show. So any final thoughts, not

726
00:47:56.360 --> 00:47:58.400
on the not on the subject matter, No, not on

727
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:04.000
the topic. I'll just say, don't be scared of things

728
00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:09.360
that are out there. On top of let's say these

729
00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:18.159
things were based on Mesopotamian demons or spirits. Fear only

730
00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:24.079
feeds these negative or malevolent entities anyways, So don't let

731
00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:29.880
fear get in the way of just enjoying these dolls. Yes,

732
00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:33.760
they're creepy cute. I think they're creepy cute, but I

733
00:48:33.760 --> 00:48:36.719
would never own one. As I mentioned, he.

734
00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:39.159
Keeps saying that he's trying to convince himself. I guess

735
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:43.360
because I don't who else he's trying to convince maybe, but.

736
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:49.400
Uh yeah, don't don't fear anything that is, especially in

737
00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:54.559
pop culture with the you know, with Halloween season coming up,

738
00:48:55.199 --> 00:49:00.800
we're we're already getting into you know, people going to

739
00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:04.559
be scared from going to haunted houses and stuff like that,

740
00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:10.039
So no reason to add to it. Next week is

741
00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:12.599
going to be a really interesting episode. We're going to

742
00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:17.119
be discussing how the Simpsons have predicted things in the

743
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:23.360
future or current past, and it'll be a pretty interesting episode.

744
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:26.280
We might have a couple extra guest co hosts with

745
00:49:26.440 --> 00:49:29.079
us to have a round table discussion with which will

746
00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:36.840
be awesome, and it's going to stuff just keeps going

747
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:39.719
around in my head about this one, because it again

748
00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:41.880
my wife and I just talked about it this morning

749
00:49:41.880 --> 00:49:48.199
about how accurate this satire comedy show has got mixed right,

750
00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:57.280
and even actually a guy that I follow on TikTok

751
00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:02.639
had done a satirical thing about a certain individual that's

752
00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:06.239
in the government right now, linking tail and all to autism.

753
00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:09.119
And the guy hadn't even come out with it yet.

754
00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:12.119
He was just joking and all of a sudden it happened.

755
00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:13.440
Did he see the TikTok?

756
00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:14.719
I doubt it, but.

757
00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:19.760
So, yeah, make sure you check that out. We got

758
00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:22.400
a lot of great episodes coming up for the spooky season,

759
00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:27.920
and then yeah, nothing for about a month as far

760
00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:31.599
as topical stuff that we usually do, and then we're

761
00:50:31.639 --> 00:50:34.039
into Christmas and the year's over.

762
00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:37.159
Wild it just started.

763
00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:42.199
Yeah, I feel that way every year and every year

764
00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:43.760
it feels like it's just getting faster.

765
00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:46.360
It is. Man, the older you get, the more you

766
00:50:46.599 --> 00:50:48.519
use the time you you are, you know, and it's

767
00:50:48.599 --> 00:50:50.280
just yeah, speeds up.

768
00:50:51.039 --> 00:50:53.599
That's that's probably one part of it. The other part

769
00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:56.760
of it you've mentioned it before, you know, the earth

770
00:50:56.960 --> 00:51:03.400
is speeding up rotationally speaking. And yeah, concept of time

771
00:51:03.519 --> 00:51:04.760
is an interesting thing.

772
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:08.400
Is all right, like another topic for another time.

773
00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:13.280
Yeah, we'll have to definitely recover or redo that one.

774
00:51:13.480 --> 00:51:17.159
That might be our longest or shortest episode ever because

775
00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:19.079
we don't know how time is working right now. It

776
00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:20.679
can we're fast, it can move slowly. It could be

777
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:22.360
both at the same time, right.

778
00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:25.960
All right? All right, folks, make sure you like, share,

779
00:51:26.039 --> 00:51:29.960
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780
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:32.039
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781
00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:35.920
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782
00:51:36.519 --> 00:51:38.880
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