April 8, 2026

Shadow Magick: Turning Darkness Into Power w/Raven Digitalis

What if the part of yourself you’ve been avoiding… is actually your greatest source of power? This week on ParaTruth: Reborn, we sit down with Raven Digitalis, author of Shadow Magick Spellbook, to explore the hidden world of shadow work—and how...

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What if the part of yourself you’ve been avoiding… is actually your greatest source of power?

This week on ParaTruth: Reborn, we sit down with Raven Digitalis, author of Shadow Magick Spellbook, to explore the hidden world of shadow work—and how embracing your inner darkness can lead to real healing, protection, and transformation.

From 144 adaptable spells to working with liminal spaces, spirits, and even the astral plane… this episode dives deep into the side of magick most people avoid.

If you’ve ever wondered:

  • What is shadow work really?
  • Can darkness actually heal you?
  • Are spirits and ancestors part of this practice?

You’re about to find out.

⚡ Your shadow isn’t your enemy… it might be your greatest ally.

Guest Bio: Raven Digitalis (USA) is an award-winning author best known for his works on empathy, consisting of The Empath's Oracle, Esoteric Empathy, and The Everyday Empath. He is also the author of a series of books on shadow work, including Shadow Magick Spellbook, A Gothic Witch's Oracle, A Witch's Shadow Magick Compendium, and Goth Craft. Originally trained in Georgian Witchcraft, Raven has been an earth-based practitioner since 1999, a Priest since 2003, a Freemason since 2012, and an empath all of his life. He holds a degree in cultural anthropology from the University of Montana, jointly operated a nonprofit Pagan temple for sixteen years, and is also a professional Tarot reader, Reiki practitioner, and animal rights advocate


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Coming up on Paratruth ree Born, we've got Raven Digitalice

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talking about his book Shadow Magic spell Blook. Welcome, how's

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it going, Paratruthers. Welcome to another episode of Paratruth Reborn.

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My name is Justin and I'm very happy to welcome

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Raven Digitalice to the show. Raven, Welcome to Paratruth to

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be bored.

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Hello, it's so nice to be here. And thank you

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to all the listeners. Thanks to you guys, all the producers, everybody.

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So yeah, I am Raven Digitalist. That's a raven like

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the bird and digitalis like the fox, glove plant. And

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I'm an author and just release a new book. So

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I'm so happy that you could interview me about the

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new book, Shadow Magic Spell Book. Yeah.

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That's it's gonna be an awesome conversation. The first thing

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I really wanted to ask you is how did you

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first get involved with shadow magic.

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I think shadow work is the work of a lifetime.

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We're all doing it, or should be doing it anyway.

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It's not any one thing. It's very difficult to pin down.

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So yeah, if somebody is summoning demons, I guess that's

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shadow work. Sure, but that's what I'm that's not my jam.

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The first chapter in my book begins with the Ungian

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shadow self and working with our repressed depressed, suppressed emotions

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and feelings and experiences, and getting to know ourselves a

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little bit better. And then for me with my interpretation

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of shadow work and how I feel it helps others.

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The best is that after that chapter, I move on

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to interpersonal shadow work, because we're always dealing with other

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people's shadows as well as our own, so everybody is

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their own universe. We have all this stuff around us,

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and we interact with other people focused while we are

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focused on ourselves because we are ourselves and have this

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interaction of shadow with others, So a big theme of

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that chapter. The second chapter in Shadow Magic Spub Book

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is about protection. So some people will come to the

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book looking for curses and hexes and how to get

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back at your ex but you're not going to find

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that in my book. There are some alternatives to that

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that are more comically aligned or ethical in my opinion

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that I present, But interacting with others also includes anxiety,

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social anxiety, and think those kind of themes. Then I

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move on to the shadow of nature. So that's where

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we delve into eclipses, new moons, different components we can

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work with, like animal parts or graveyard dirt, things like

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that that can be very beneficial on our shadow work journey.

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And then it goes into finally the Other World section,

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which explores the other dimensions, which some would call paranormal,

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not necessarily I've heard the term para natural. Yes, you know,

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dealing with work work, working with ancestors, with spirits, with hauntings,

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with astral projection, and dreaming. Okay, so that's a good

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little summary of my new book.

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Okay, now I when talking about shadow work, you know

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a lot of people will get scared about that word.

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But why do people fear their shadow selves so much?

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I think that in society, we are taught to be

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a certain way and behave and perform in certain manners,

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and we need to put up a face. And this

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face and this front is cross cultural. It's ancient for

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various reasons too. So when we put up a face

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in a front, yeah, it's like a mask. Yeah it

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doesn't have to be disingenuous, but it is like a mask.

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And so I think the shadow portions of ourselves and

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the world that we live in and being totally honest

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about our experiences. It's kind of frowned on because that's

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not really everyday conversation. Like, you know, you're not going

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to tell the clerk at the gas station that you

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got slapped by your uncle when you were nineteen. Yeah,

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I would vote that. So there is an element of

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compartmentalization there, and a lot of that is protective too.

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I understand it. I get the gist of it. It's

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very protective. There are certain portions of ourselves that we

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reveal to other people and when we are alone with

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ourselves and our pets, for example, that and the gods,

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the deities, of spirits, the higher powers. However, you see

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the higher powers, that's where it's at. When we are

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alone with ourselves and the frequency of the universe, that's

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where the real change happens because there's nobody to perform

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for now.

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What made you want to embrace instead of avoid your

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shadow self?

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Well, I've always been a goth you know, I was

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a gothic and industrial DJ for nineteen years and I've

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always just had, you know, a fan of like creative

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horror movies and dark art that purges the psyche. Dark music,

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things that purge the psyche. So I have always felt

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a lot of empathy, and that's also what I write

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about is empathy. That's those are my other series of

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books and Oracle Deck, the Empaths Oracle Deck. But I've

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felt the empathy with Shadow working, shadow purging dark Art

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because it I could relate to the the merging of

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of of the self with the shadow and the alchemical

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process of purging the shadow self to understand it better.

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Okay, Now, something that a lot of people, uh don't

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realize is that you have to build a foundation first

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before you start doing this work. What happens if someone

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skips that step.

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Right? That reminds me of because I'm a professional tarot reader. Also,

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that reminds me of some folks that have approached me

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recently wanting to delve deeply, deeply into the tarot, which

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in itself is life. The whole deck of Tarot, in

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a perfect tarot deck, is life itself in a pack.

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So some people want to just go all the way

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in into all the astrology, all the kabbala, all of

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the color schemes, all of the timing, all these things,

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and I'm like, no, no, take a step back, Let's

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start with the foundation first, like you said, the foundation,

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and build from there. So I'll suggest different ways to

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work up to that. And it's the same thing with

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magic and metaphysics. Life itself is magic. Everything's magic. The

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fact that we exist is magical. So there's nothing that

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is not magic, is how I see it. And so

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so I suggest to people to study a number of

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traditions and cultures and ways of working magic to gain

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that foundation first, and then see what they're called toward

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themselves individually. Now, what do you mean by being called

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to something? Well, for example, my genetic lineage is Norse

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and Pennsylvania Deutsch, which is basically German, Okay, And I

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have no resonance with ruins or the Norse gods and

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goddess has no disrespect at all, it's just I don't

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have residence there. But my resonance is very very much

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Hindu Stani, very you know, very very Hindu. So I

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consider myself an American Hindu as well as a witch.

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And I'm ocultists and I love to balance those two spears. Okay.

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Cool.

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Yeah, Now, a lot.

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Of people will have a lot of negative thoughts, and

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some people try and associate that with the shadow. How

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do you recognize your shadow versus just having those negative thoughts.

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Well, negative thoughts are very much part of the shadow.

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So this is where I refer back to Buddhism and

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Buddhist mindfulness practice, like core Buddhism, Okay, back from oneself

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and saying, Okay, this is what I'm thinking, this is

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what I'm feeling. Let me take a step back for

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a moment. I'm the observer of these things. Just like

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when my anxiety spikes up. For example, one thing that

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helps me a lot is being like, Okay, I am

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not anxious. I don't have this anxiety and this panic

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attack coming on my brain does my body is responding

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like this, I need to take a step back and

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divorce myself from the physiology of the thing and be like, Okay,

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let me observe what's happening in my body and mind,

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and that's mindfulness. So I always refer back to that.

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It can be scary, for sure to think about the shadow,

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and yet at the same time, from our perspective, the

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sun goes down every day. Every night, darkness falls, we

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sleep and dream, We're working with darkness every single day.

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It's nothing to be afraid of. Right, the trauma imprints

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can be very scary when it comes to shadow work,

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especially internal shadow work, like imprints of trauma and challenge

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that we've had growing up through any kind of relationship,

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and so that's a very scary part. And this is

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why in Shadow Magic spell Book, I recommend that people

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talk to a therapist if they need that. I know

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that therapy has probably saved my life in the past.

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I don't have a current therapist, but in the past,

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oh boy, yeah, I needed that talk therapy. I needed

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TMS again, TMS Brain magnet therapy to dissolve my chronic depression.

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There are so many and EMBR has been very helpful.

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There are so many tools out there to help us.

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Medications even on low dose like that's helped me tremendously.

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So we need to approach the shadow on our own terms,

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and we need to get a little bit uncomfortable at

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the same time.

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Okay, now, the is there a way to do this

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work incorrectly? And if so, can it be dangerous to

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do shadow work if you're doing it correctly?

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of this is to try to curse somebody or inact revenge,

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because usually what that means is that the other person

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has been traumatized also and they don't know how to

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deal with it. So so the biggest warning with shadow

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work of any type is, well, don't work with spirits

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who are jerks, and don't work with people who are jokes.

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Work with yourself. That's what it comes down to, is

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working with ourselves, not trying to influence other people unless

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it is protective. I do have a ritual about cord cutting,

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of course, in the spell Book and in the second

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chapter of Interact other People. There are things like that

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and establishing social boundaries and things like that that are

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that are very good. The wrong way to work with

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the shadow is to project one's own shadow onto other people.

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That's why we need that foundation of self awareness. Okay, now,

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is this is your shadow? Literally just you. It's a

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part of us. Yeah, I mean we are all shadow

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and light. It's a big dance. It's a big interplay.

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Everything in life is it's all shadow and light. We

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have daytime, we have nighttime, we have awakeness, we have

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sleep sleepiness, and so everything is this whole dance and interplay.

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So simply focusing on the light, which can be amazing,

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can neglect the shadow portions, the hidden portions of oneself

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and one's patterns. This also, I believe, goes back to

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past lives. So we have certain imprints that we carry

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over from past lives in addition to this lifetime, and

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these things can progress until we learn and understand and

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grow from them.

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Okay, now you wrote this spell book. How does this

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spell book differ from other other spell books?

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I would say that the biggest way that Shadow Magic

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spell Book differs from others is that I encourage people

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to modify every spell and ritual and ceremony in the book.

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I say, don't do it how I wrote it. That

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take this and run with it and make it your own,

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make it personal, rather than doing it like a recipe

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by the book. So that's the biggest difference is that

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there are one hundred and forty four workings in there,

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and I say make them your own, do not do

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them how I wrote them exactly. This is your framework.

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Go for it. Do what you do do surrounding ceremonies

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with this or prayers or whatever your inclination is, and

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then incorporate what I've discovered in there because spirituality is

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it's an evolving thing, it's not a static thing. We

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don't have to do things by the book. When it

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comes to ceremonial magic. Like with planetary work, these things

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are much more specific. And with the deity work, the

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thing in my book is that I do not have

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any workings with particular gods or goddesses or deities. That's

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for the reader to or. And I do that very

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specifically intentionally because I want people to modify what I've

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discovered and created and co created. Really, and when it

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comes to deities and planetary energies and these very specific things,

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they require specific offerings and honorings. And with my book,

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I'm like, you know, incorporate that if you want to,

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and if not, then don't and honor your ancestors. Always

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honor your ancestors.

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any spell work, is it best to just make it

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your own instead of just like following a recipe just

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because it makes it a more personable thing for you.

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That's how I feel personally. Yeah, there, I do know

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some people who very much cognitively follow ancient Greek and

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Egyptian spells and rituals to the letter. Again, they have

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success with that. It's also again a co creative process.

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So if you think that this spell needs to be

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done with in this exact way, with these like Latin

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or Sanskrit words or whatever, and must burn these earth,

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must have this time alignment, this lunar cycle and very specific,

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then yeah, you might create more success because that's the

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intention that you've put into it. Whereas with witchcraft, it's

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much more intuitive, and that's often called like low magic

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instead of high magic. Okay, not that low is worse

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or lesser than it's just it's more terrestrials. It's more

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intuitive based rather than cosmic based. So that's why I encourage,

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like in my book, if you don't have Solomon's seal route,

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you can use glangle or you know, other substitutions, and

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I have a whole glossary in the back of the

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book that provides an index of substitutions and things like that.

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Okay, now you've mentioned different tools that you can use

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in your spell work. But is the intention matter more

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than the tools themselves.

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Yes, I very much believe that. So a person can

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light a candle and project extreme energy and life force

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into that candle, into those prayers, into whatever they're going for,

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and that can you know, yield so much more success

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than somebody who goes like for three days doing building

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up an entire ritual and doing it exactly on point.

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HM and what we're built for and what we vibe with.

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So you know, I will integrate those kind of things

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into my practice. I'll be like, well, this feels right

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and historically this is correct for this, So it's really

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just it really boils down to the person. So that's

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the intention aspect, because if you know that it's going

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to work, it'll work. Okay.

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It kind of goes along the lines of the Christian

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uh practice of you know, believing that you have it

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before and I know that goes through multiple religions and

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even different practices of magic as well, So that I

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find that very fascinating and that you know.

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What we call today the law of attraction, you have

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to believe that you have it and that is your

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intention in setting that.

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principle and probably long before her menticism came along at

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the same time, with the law of attraction, we don't

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want to trick ourselves because there we always have that

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shadow self, the uncon mind. That's like if I look

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in the mirror and I'm like, oh, I am so beautiful,

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I'm so handsome. Every day, there's that unconscious part of

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the mind that says, no, you're not, You're fooling yourself.

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What are you doing? And so fake it till you

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make it is a thing.

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It just I just think it takes a lot of

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different many different approaches to conquer insecurities and fears and

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self judgments that we all have, dealing with aging, dealing

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with body changes, with a relationship changes, all these things.

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It takes work. We need to work on ourselves. And

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nobody is perfect, and that that is the perfection. Is

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how I see it, is that there's nobody's perfect, that

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that is the perfection of it.

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Yeah, yeah, for sure. Now for anybody who is wanting

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to start doing this work, ken beginners actually do this

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work safely.

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talk therapy and I have a therapist from age like

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sixteen and then you know, switched on onto a few

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different others. I don't currently have a therapist, but I

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think that is a great point for perspective, because we

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need that outside perspective to know ourselves better, at least

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to consider ourselves better. We don't have to agree with

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everything that the therapist says. It's not the word of God.

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It's what they're training and their empathy hopefully the livers

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and their sympathy and just understanding. So you know, I've

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I had a therapist who only cared about himself like

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a couple of years ago, and so I was like,

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you know, I've gotten what I needed and thank you

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and moved on. And every other talk therapist that I've

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had since then before then has been very empathetic. It's

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it's it's hard work, but we do need that outside perspective.

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And at the same time, like I was saying, we

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don't need to believe everything that everybody says. Just because

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somebody says it doesn't make it true about it, or

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judgments with their judgments, and we all make mistakes, so

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we do need to be humble and accountable for mistakes

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that we make and slip ups that we make. And

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if somebody doesn't forgive that or understand that, then f M,

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they can they can have a Yeah, I agree with

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that on undred percent.

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Now, I something that's that's kind of in the book

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and I've read it in other places is liminal spaces.

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What are liminal spaces and why are they so powerful?

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Right? Liminal spaces. So my friend Laura writes about that

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quite a bit, but she's on the well and as well,

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so she has some books about the liminal. So liminal

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spaces are places in between now and then, in between

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here and there. For example, dusk is falling right now

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where I'm at here in Montana, in Missoula, Montana, So

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dusk is falling right now, and that this is a

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liminal space. Now wonder my kiddy cat is acting up

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and being like, oh this this is a time And

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other examples of liminal spaces are cemeteries, crossroads, even like

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the new moon or even the full moon eclipses, because

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we're in between one stage and another. That's the thing,

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that's where the magic happens. We're in between one space

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or another. This can also happen, of course, in be

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invoked in meditation or ritual. So here we are creating

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a space between the worlds in meditation or ritual and

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that's a liminal space in and of itself. By the way,

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Laura's Laura tempest Zakroff is the friend that I was

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mentioning earlier. Laura tempests Zachroff with a Z for those

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who are listening. She just made a new book. Also

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on Llewellyn. We have some oracle decks and other things,

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but she she speaks a lot about liminal spaces, and

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so liminal just means in between. It's the in between. Okay.

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Yeah, Now.

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You mentioned this.

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Multiple times about acknowledging ancestors and communicating with them and

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working with them. How real is that interaction or is

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it something where like people would think that it's just

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something in their head.

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Yeah, that's a great question. I think it all blends

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together because a lot of it is in our head

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and then a lot of it is external. So uh.

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I hear so many times about people, you know, getting

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signs from their their departed dearly departed in the form

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of birds or flowers or bees or synchronicities and things

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like this, and I think there's so much to be

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said about that. I think that's very real, And there's

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also this interplay with the personal self, Like it's like,

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is this real? Am I misinterpreting? Am I just trying

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to superimpose something paranormal or supernatural onto just like a

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normal daily experience. So there's this huge interplay that happens,

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and that's up for everybody to decide individually, like is

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this actually a message from my friend or am I

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just making it up? Or could it be both? Does

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it have to be one or the other? Can it

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be paradoxical? Can we have that dichotomy at the same time,

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because I don't think everything is mutually exclusive, and psychedelic

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mushrooms certainly taught me that that we can interplay with

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our mind and reality because we are nature, We are

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those synchronicities, those are constantly working with us, and we're

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not separate from it. So we can see something as

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something and understand that it's also in our mind.

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Now. One of the things that I found fascinating when

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I started researching this years and years ago the paranormal

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and even mediumship is the astral plane. Are people actually

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traveling somewhere when they're saying they're going on the astral plane?

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You know, that's been a bit of a struggle for me,

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also because I as a teenager when I was learning metaphysics,

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I was taught that there's this astral dimension that is

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separate from but as an imprint and energetic imprint of

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this reality, and you can travel to all these different

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places personally, don't I don't know. I haven't. I tried it,

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it didn't. I don't think it did much. I'm much

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more reliant on dreams and dream time symbolism than intentionally

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trying to astra project and look into a certain reality

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or project my etheric self to a certain place. That's

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something that I don't quite understand because it's just not

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my talent. So some people are very talented at that

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kind of thing and could could say a lot more

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about it, but it's just not my skill, right, No.

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I mean there are people that say when we're sleeping

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that depending on the dream, we are astro projecting. What

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are your thoughts on that?

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Yeah, for sure, I've had I've had some experiences like that.

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Like I worked with folks with disabilities for fifteen years,

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and sometimes I'll have dreams where I am astro projecting

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into the group home that I used to work at,

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for example, or into the radio station where I used

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to work at and get certain impressions. I think most

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of dream time is just this bizarre psychological dump that

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we can't anxiously on, just like it's just a mind worp.

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Yeah, well, and that's the that's the thing too, Like

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all of this worked, and even even dreams. You know,

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it's very, very hard to differentiate from your ego compared

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to you know, spiritual communication. I still have problems with that,

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being a medium and being able to sense these things

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that are not necessarily quote unquote here. But I always

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and and this is probably my shadow self doing it,

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I always doubt myself saying, you know, that's it's all

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in your head. You're you're not hearing people that have passed,

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You're not hearing your spirit cards. It's just all in

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your head. Sure, How, in your opinion, how do you

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get it to where where you work with your shadow

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more and get it to stop giving you those doubts.

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Well, on one hand, there is, like you said, self doubt,

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self deprecation, lack of belief, like shadow work and mediumship,

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empathetic work, psychic work. Terror reading like I do is terror.

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It's my main specialty. Like these things do not require

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us to be one hundred percent accurate. No, nothing is

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one hundred percent accurate, right, We're just transmitters and we

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do the best we possibly can. So there will be

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times when we'll think, Okay, is this just in my head?

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And is this really happening. What reinforces the opposite for

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me is when synchronicities happen, when things line up that

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or or you receive or say something that you couldn't

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have possibly known, and it's not from cold reading the

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other person or manipulating them, just things that come and

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with transmission. And I think that's a confirmation that we

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have these skills and we don't have to prove it

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to anybody. Of course, we want to be confident in

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ourselves and in what we're doing in our professions and

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in our in our in our help for other people,

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because that's what it's all about, is just helping other people.

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That is my entire life goal. That's what I signed

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up for from the day I was born, is to

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help others. Obviously that starts with the self. And so yeah,

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I think it's I think it's wise to question psychic impressions,

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whether it's mediumship, empathy, traditional psychicism, defamation, what have you.

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It's very wise to question oneself and the messages that

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one is receiving, because we don't want to trick ourselves

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because this battle can trick us also, and the ego

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can trick us. So we don't want to, you know,

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fall into the hands of brickery. We want to be

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ourselves and genuine as much as we can. And if

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we don't know something, we say that we don't know

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what we don't know.

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Now, I'm assuming that you do a type of protection

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before you start doing shadow work.

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How do you protect yourself when you're doing this type

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of work?

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For me, because I fall back a little bit on

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ceremonial magic for protective work. When it comes to a

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ritual setting, I'll do the LBRP, which is the lesser

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banishing ritual of the pentagram. So this is intoning various

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names of God for lack of better terms of the

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divine into the self and then basically evoking the archangels

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around and banishing negative influence before doing a working. And

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00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:48.920
this can be different for everybody. It can simply be

461
00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:55.320
crossing yourself, and it can be simply calling on angels.

462
00:39:55.320 --> 00:39:59.519
It can be burning herbs and doing that kind of cleansing,

463
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:03.639
connecting with crystals. So it's just different for everybody else. Like,

464
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and that's the thing I think we all need to

465
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:10.719
go with our intuition and what works best for us.

466
00:40:12.679 --> 00:40:14.840
Kind of goes back to what you said earlier about

467
00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:19.039
with the spell book, doing it the way that you

468
00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:21.320
want to, not necessarily how you've worked it out in

469
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the look.

470
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Yeah. Wow.

471
00:40:26.440 --> 00:40:31.599
Now, what is one of the biggest misconceptions about shadow

472
00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:32.599
work in your opinion?

473
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:41.320
Well, I'd say that the biggest misconception is that it's

474
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about something outside of oneself. We all have that shadow

475
00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:52.000
south they can, you know, look up the or look

476
00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:59.559
back to call her young about that research psychologically, but

477
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:03.840
seeing the shadow of something external, even seeing demons as

478
00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:08.239
something outside of us and outside of our experience, seeing

479
00:41:09.079 --> 00:41:16.199
evil as something external. Oh do you watch the news? Yeah, yeah,

480
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:24.400
it's like girl, there's some demonic stuff going on. Okay,

481
00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:30.559
there there is the demon of greed and insatiable greed

482
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:36.639
occurring and has done as long as I've known this

483
00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:43.719
long as probably humankind, and the demon of you know,

484
00:41:43.800 --> 00:41:49.199
sadism and just enjoying others, the suffering of others. Yeah,

485
00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:52.679
these are real things. So doing shadow work doesn't mean

486
00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:59.679
exalting these horrible things. For me, shadow work means does

487
00:41:59.840 --> 00:42:07.159
all those horrible imprints, those horrible forces, because we need

488
00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:13.519
to go dig into the shadow to dissolve those things

489
00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:20.320
at the very least in our own lives. Is including trauma, imprints,

490
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:25.920
abuses that we've endured. It doesn't mean that we need

491
00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:28.440
to curse the other person. No, no, no, we have

492
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:33.599
to work on ourselves. It's all about working on ourselves.

493
00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:37.119
That is the first step. And then also of course protection,

494
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:43.880
Like you mentioned, the three main things that I recommend

495
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:50.039
for protection when performing shadow work are the stone, black turmaline,

496
00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:52.639
don't wear it every day. I talk about this in

497
00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:57.920
all of my empathy books. Esoteric Empathy was my first one,

498
00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:01.239
and then the one that's made for where everyone is

499
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:05.119
called The Everyday Mpath, which is also on audiobook, The

500
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:09.400
Everyday Mpath, and then I created the Empath's Oracle Deck.

501
00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:14.360
Co created that, which I'm very happy with Empaths Oracle Deck.

502
00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:17.840
So that's like those are affirmation cards. But one thing

503
00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:24.280
that I say in all of those pieces is protect yourself,

504
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:30.039
know yourself, and be humble with who you are and

505
00:43:33.599 --> 00:43:38.519
use things that help protect you socially, whether it's black turmoline,

506
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:42.639
wearing a necklace, whether it's like the other thing is yarrow.

507
00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:45.760
Yarrow is very protective as an herb and as a

508
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:51.519
spray as a tincture, And the other thing is just

509
00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:58.159
simply visualization, which goes a long way. Visualizing ourselves protected

510
00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:03.480
with a crystalline sphere that only allows goodness into us.

511
00:44:03.880 --> 00:44:09.280
I would also around that honoring our ancestors and the departed,

512
00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:17.679
you know, people and animals, and our spirit team, whether

513
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:21.559
we know them or not, is very valuable. We all

514
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:23.440
have a spirit team, whether we know them or not.

515
00:44:26.159 --> 00:44:29.559
Yeah, I mean I this is something I do regularly,

516
00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:32.480
and I've been doing it for a very long time,

517
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:38.559
since before I even started going down this path, and

518
00:44:38.599 --> 00:44:44.159
that is talking stuff out with nobody around. Like I'm

519
00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:47.440
basically what most people would think, I'm talking to myself,

520
00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:56.440
but I've always felt that somebody's there, so in it. Unintentionally,

521
00:44:56.760 --> 00:45:00.000
I was working with my spirit team and not even

522
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:05.440
I'm really thinking of it as such, right, And it's

523
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:09.199
at least from what I can sense, is that our

524
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:15.320
spirit team isn't only assigned to us. That's a very egoic,

525
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:17.519
you know, view to take it to be like, oh,

526
00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:20.079
they're only ours, this one's here for me.

527
00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:24.320
Oh no, they're all over the place. Time works differently

528
00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:27.000
over on the other side, we can't even fathom. You

529
00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:30.360
have no idea. Nobody can. Well, a few people can

530
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:33.320
come back and report it, I guess, like to some degree,

531
00:45:33.519 --> 00:45:40.559
but like, yeah, but we just have to know that

532
00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:43.320
they're there because we all have a spirit team. And

533
00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:51.199
even if even if these are just pieces of ourselves,

534
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:58.039
so what than they are doesn't matter, right, If that

535
00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:04.280
helps you and it works, it's the difference. Now, what

536
00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:10.079
is one thing that you hope people take from when

537
00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:16.760
they're reading this book with a Shadow Magic spell book,

538
00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:23.320
I want people to love themselves. That's really what it

539
00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:28.119
comes down to. Same with my books about empathy, my

540
00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:32.199
whole series My Empaths, Oracle, Esoteric Empathy, and the Everyday

541
00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:41.400
EmPATH same kind of theme, different approach. However, like what

542
00:46:41.559 --> 00:46:45.960
it alchemizes to and boils down to is please love

543
00:46:46.239 --> 00:46:49.960
and care for and respect yourself and realize that you

544
00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:57.039
are sacred. That's the biggest takeaway. You are sacred, child

545
00:46:57.079 --> 00:46:59.840
of the universe, and we are here for a reason.

546
00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:05.199
That's the biggest takeaway.

547
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:11.320
All right, Now, what one simple shadow practice someone can

548
00:47:11.400 --> 00:47:14.679
try tonight to start working with their shadow.

549
00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:23.280
Yeah. So the fact that you mentioned tonight the night nighttime. Okay,

550
00:47:23.360 --> 00:47:28.039
so now we're invoking the nighttime. That's a good starting

551
00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:31.840
point because it doesn't matter what signs the planets are

552
00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:34.960
in or whatever the moon is in the fact, yeah,

553
00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:37.599
it's nighttime. Oh yeah, that's the time for shadow where

554
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:45.960
isn't it. So so I feel like somebody can just

555
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:49.800
listen to what is coming up synchronistically in their own

556
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:52.920
lives and being like, oh, this theme has been a

557
00:47:53.039 --> 00:47:57.079
rising for me lately, or today I heard from X

558
00:47:57.239 --> 00:48:03.559
y Z or this or simply this thought is very

559
00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:07.679
prevalent on my mind. So I would invite people to

560
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:12.880
sit with those thoughts and sensations and this evening and

561
00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:16.320
just be like, hey, okay, why is this coming up?

562
00:48:18.480 --> 00:48:23.519
So I'll give an example today. At the time of

563
00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:28.400
this recording, you remember I mentioned that I worked at

564
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:34.840
a group home for many years. I ended up texting

565
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:38.480
out of allegedly nowhere, I don't want to say nowhere,

566
00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:42.800
but out of with a couple of the mothers of

567
00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:49.800
folks who are in their group home. Today boom, like

568
00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:55.039
we hardly ever text ever, Okay, And I had a

569
00:48:55.119 --> 00:48:58.960
dream last night about that very thing, and then there

570
00:48:59.039 --> 00:49:02.360
was another synchronous where, you know, I saw somebody with

571
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:08.199
down syndrome, and so all these things started piling up,

572
00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:12.599
and I'm like, okay, the universe is obviously speaking. So

573
00:49:13.639 --> 00:49:19.760
the message here is for me to reconnect asap with

574
00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:23.159
these folks from the group home that I worked with

575
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:29.880
for so long. So again, synchronicity, look at our synchronicity.

576
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:34.280
That that's where we need. That's where the stillness is.

577
00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:36.760
We need to take a step back and be like, okay,

578
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:40.199
what is the universe saying? Now? What are the repeating

579
00:49:40.360 --> 00:49:42.719
cycles right now? What are my dreams, what are my

580
00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:49.280
you know emails? What are all these things? And take

581
00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:53.800
a step back and then try to engage so when

582
00:49:53.880 --> 00:50:01.280
it comes to nighttime and like enacting shadow work right away,

583
00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:05.920
it's just about taking a step back, That's all I'd say.

584
00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:11.039
Okay, Now, do you feel that we're getting signs and

585
00:50:11.159 --> 00:50:15.639
signals pretty much all the time or is it just

586
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:17.519
when we need to really notice something.

587
00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:26.559
I think they're always coming in and we don't always

588
00:50:26.639 --> 00:50:30.559
notice them, but they'll come in much more strongly when

589
00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:34.559
the universe is being or the guides or what have

590
00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:37.079
you are, or the higher self is being like, hey

591
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:43.920
listen up. So when it really gets our attention, then

592
00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:48.960
we know. In everyday life, I think we're usually navigating

593
00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:54.639
and we'll get minor signs and synchronicities. Okay. I tend

594
00:50:54.639 --> 00:50:56.079
to neglect those a lot.

595
00:50:57.079 --> 00:50:58.360
I think a lot of people.

596
00:50:58.079 --> 00:51:04.400
Do so, and then and then I'll realize it later.

597
00:51:04.519 --> 00:51:09.840
I'll be like, oh, crap, that's what was being communicated

598
00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:12.199
by the by the universe.

599
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:18.800
All right, Well that's fair enough, because I mean there's

600
00:51:18.840 --> 00:51:23.639
a lot of people that we'll see something and just

601
00:51:23.639 --> 00:51:30.960
be like, oh, it's just coincidence. Yeah. So I totally

602
00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:35.639
feel that, especially, you know, just ignoring something, because I've

603
00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:39.079
seen it quite a bit where I'll ignore something and

604
00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:44.239
then i'll ignore enough times and I'll get a very

605
00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:47.639
very hard pressure in my third eye. I'll get a

606
00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:51.480
very hard pressure on my crown chakra. I'm like, Okay,

607
00:51:51.719 --> 00:51:56.519
what's go on? And yeah, it's like listen, not what's up?

608
00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:02.239
All right? Last question I have for you before I

609
00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:05.360
let you go, where can everyone find you and.

610
00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:10.599
Find your work? So raven like the bird and digitalis

611
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like the plant, which is the Latin name for Foxglove.

612
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Digitalis ravendigitalis dot com. You can also look me up

613
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under Raven digitalis on Amazon, good Red, It's YouTube, Instagram, Facebook,

614
00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:36.960
all the things I did delete my tech talk because evil.

615
00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:40.119
Yeah, I mean a lot a lot of people would

616
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probably agree with you.

617
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Oh yeah, these are some weird ass times. So it's like, yeah,

618
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gotta do what we can and yeah, yeah, yeah, thank

619
00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:57.960
you listeners. Look me up Raven digitalis and that's a

620
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digital with an I at the end, And yeah, Raven digitalis.

621
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And like I mentioned, I do professional tarot readings. A

622
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person can book with me. I've done this for over

623
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twenty years. Are terror consultations. I also do remote and

624
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in person reiki sessions. And I also provide spell kits

625
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and prayer kits for folks that, like I said, need

626
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a consultation, and then we go from there. I send

627
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them the ingredients. I do not cast for anybody. I

628
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provide them with the tools to do that on their

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own in an ethical manner, and you know, print out

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a whole scroll and nail that. All these things but

631
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that can all be fine be found under the services

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portion of my website ravendigitalis dot com. Excellent, Raven, thank

633
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you so much for being on Paratruth, be born. Thank

634
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you so much to spend a pleasure all right, folks.

635
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That was Rave Digit tell Us, author of Shadow Magic Spellbook.

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That is it for us, as sweet Paratruthers. There's always

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more to the story, the deeper discussions, the theories we

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don't air, the community behind it all. That's happening on

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our para Truth channels as well as our Paratruthers group

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on Facebook. So if you're ready to go further down

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the rabbit hole, search Paratruth You're born and become a

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paratrue Until next week, folks, where you'll find us, same time,

643
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same channel. My name is Justin.

644
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Talk to you guys later.
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Raven Digitalis (USA) is an award-winning author best known for his works on empathy, consisting of The Empath's Oracle, Esoteric Empathy, and The Everyday Empath. He is also the author of a series of books on shadow work, including Shadow Magick Spellbook, A Gothic Witch's Oracle, A Witch's Shadow Magick Compendium, and Goth Craft. Originally trained in Georgian Witchcraft, Raven has been an earth-based practitioner since 1999, a Priest since 2003, a Freemason since 2012, and an empath all of his life. He holds a degree in cultural anthropology from the University of Montana, jointly operated a nonprofit Pagan temple for sixteen years, and is also a professional Tarot reader, Reiki practitioner, and animal rights advocate.