Fact or Fiction: Was Atlantis Real?

0:03 Welcome, well, go well do Para Truth Truth, What's up everybody, and welcome back to a brand new episode of Paratruth Reborn. This is a pre recorded show on one of seven point seven FM, New Orleans and one oh five point three FM on the Golf Coast and United Public Radio Network.

0:48 My name is Eric, and I'm justin we hope you're all. Having a wonderful end to your summer. I can't believe it's wrapping up already. Uh. You know, it's actually been pretty cool over here in Ohio, like sixties, which is weird for August, which is. Funny because we've been higher. You it's very weird. We've been going up and down. So we've been in the seventies, like high seventies the last three days, but then we're driving back into the mid to o sixties starting Thursday. So I don't know, I think falls pretty much just like, yeah, I'm bored, and I'm coming to kick your door. In spooky season right around the corner.

1:30 Yeah, which you know, as long as spooky season is around, I don't mind it being cool because you can't have hot weather and enjoy you know, it's like Christmas and the Bahamas. It don't make sense unless you're in the Bahamas, you grew up there. Maybe it doesn't. Nothing that makes it a little. But anyway, as you guys may remember, last week we had mentioned we were talking about Atlantis. This week a short continuation of our little series here. Now, Atlantis is one of the greatest mysteries of human greatest mysteries of human history. The questions are just you know, there are tons of questions about Atlantis. You know, scientists, just every day investigators, people who simply are interested in the idea or you know, the the the reality of Atlantis. It just raises so many questions such as was it in advanced civilization swallowed by the sea or is it just a myth that Plato made up to teach a lesson?

2:34 You know, we have all these different questions and whether or not we have answers, well, we're about to find out. So get ready, grab yourself a drink or snack, or get a drink and a snack. Why not let's live a little because we are about to delve into the deep history of the myth, lore and possible truths of Atlantis. Now it sounds like you're about to say something. But before you do, I was gonna say, what are your initial pre notions of Atlantis? What did you know or learn when you're growing up? I mean just pop culture alone. I mean, there was a video game that I used to play that the theme was time travel, and in the third game of the series, you went back to Atlantis, El Dorado, and Shangri Law, all of which are not factual in history that these civilizations existed other than depictions of them from.

3:52 Third parties basically. And I mean you just mentioned Plato is the one for Atlantis, but I've always kind of felt it was real, but without there's no like physical proof per se. And we'll get into it a little bit, one of them being, you know, the ruins that they find in the ocean. But I can kind of touch on that as we get into the history because I've found out something recently that I didn't know. Okay, yeah, you know it's Atlantis has been one of those things that has obviously been discussed pretty much our entire lives. I mean literally our entire lives and so much longer than that. But it's something you and I have discussed over and over and over again throughout the years.

4:44 And each and every day, you know, almost every day I see something online about Atlantis and law civilization, whether it's a documentary or just simply questions on Reddit or on some paranormal forum, you know. And the simple truth is, just as we know, there's so much of our sea unexplored, like there is more of our sea, of our oceans that we do not know about than we do space, which is kind of wild, right, And so with that said, we see all these civilizations that have been drowned out by the ocean. You know, when the waters rise, it claims everything. And we know that Earth is really good at claiming itself back. You know. It takes over cities, it takes over structures that have been abandoned. It's not something that's you know, way it's around to do it.

5:33 Either it's done within a month or two, everything turns green or it gets washed away. And of course we keep seeing new finds, like you said, new archaeological finds on various places. In some of these places we don't even know what they are. Like there are structures at the bottom of the ocean, statues of people and various types of figures and animals, and where exactly they came from, or who they belong to, Nobody knows, but it's clear that there was some sort of structure or some sort of maybe city like thing that was there once upon a time that either fell into the ocean or was no Maybe it was a golf during the great flood or during a tsunamis some sort. But you know, when it comes to the origins of Atlantis itself, or at least a story of Atlantis, we have to date back to Plato's dialogues there ran around three sixty BC in particular, and manuscripts themselves describe Atlantis as a powerful empire located west of the Pillars of Hercules that sank into the sea after a natural disaster of earthquakes and floods. This was an event recorded by Egyptian priests to the Athenian statesman Silent or Solin.

6:51 I believe it's pronounced Solin. Yeah, that's what I thought. Now. The island itself was larger than the Bea and Asia Minor combined, featuring a central city with a temple to Poseidon, and surrounded by that was a plane basically criss crossed by concentric rings of canals and ditches and fed by mountain streams and artificial waterways. Now, the island was incredibly wealthy, as we've heard over you know, centuries at this point, and possessed basically possessed a timber, abundant resources and precious metals like orakel her helk, I think is how that's pronounced. But it's people also grew corrupt, angering the gods and leading to their destruction and the islands sinking, you know. And one thing that I do want to mention, like he does give a bit of a kind of a map to where this should be located, right, gives this kind of an area in which it was surrounded by cities and mountains things like that. Like so many times we have people searching the depths of the ocean, the deep depths.

8:11 But we have to remember that if that were the case in these mountains that also we're feeding these streams into Atlantis, they would have to be engulfed to or be torn down. So we know it was by earthquake and flood that this supposedly disappeared. And you know what's really interesting to me is that, according to scripture, if anybody knows, and it's not just in the Bible, it's recorded history of the Great Flood. There's evidence surrounding us everywhere. Basically when it happens, not only is it raining, but the earth springs up springs of water that helped to engolf it, which means there are these cracks in the earth that formed basically in earthquake, right, and which water can spewing up and out. So we hear earthquakes and floods in the Bible, and here's this city. We know those floods sent to destroy wicked things, things God didn't like, things that were troubling him because the world or humanity in particular, was growing wicked. So I do find that very interesting that again, the story of Atlantis does line up, at least in terms of its it's fallen state story. Yeah, it kind of lines up. Now where exactly it's located is the is the big question because we have, you know, so many questions about so many things like where's the Garden of Reden? Where did that exist? And we have a map to that as well, and yet we have trouble pinpointing.

9:32 It right, We still can't place it. Yeah, and that's that's what baffles me about all of this too. Is even though we. Have a roadmap, there's so many different locations that supposedly are theory of where it's located. Well, and that's you know, and that's just the things like so right now we're describing this based on Plato's original manuscript manuscript, right, but over the years, it's kind of like you know, we've talked about telephone, you know, just like any myth or legend, it grows and it grows because when it's told from one person to the next, things change, or things are added, they are taken away. And so instead of just focusing strictly on Plato's manuscripts, we're also trying to cross reference it with other possible stories that represent Atlantis as well. And so now you're getting this mixed bag of various various explanations where it could have been located, which naturally has has scientists and explorers alike dotted all over the map trying to find it.

10:44 And you will hear that some people say Atlantis is way up north, someone say it's way down south. Someone say it's at the equator. Some will say, you know, it's off the coast of the United States. Well, others say, oh no, it's over you know, near Sicily. It's there's just so many different places, and it's all because people are interpreting the evidence that. They have differently. Yeah, and that's why I hate the game Telephone. Yeah. So the one thing that I found fascinating is that this actually kind of got buried and then re emerged during the Renaissance in Europe. The Critius was largely unknown in the Latin West during the Middle Ages and only fully emerged with the arrival of the Byzantine scholars and Greek manuscripts during the Renaissance. So were these stories buried?

11:46 Was it just you know, countries conquering each other and manuscripts being misplaced and then all of a sudden found or buried whatever. Well, yeah, I mean it could be either of those. It could be they destroy the original manuscripts of where this exact location was and they try to memorize it, but they memory gets faby after so long, or as people write it down, it's changed again. Some of the telephone, you know, you pass the manuscripts on from one person to the next. They recopy it and they change things here and there a little bit, not to be facetious or make it, you know, unrecognizable and hard to find. But because people have different ways of describing things, why is there? Uh, you know, I wanna go back to the Bible.

12:31 Why are there four gospels telling the same story four times over? You No, Mattew, Mark, Luke, and John all tell the story slightly different. But when you take a step back and look at it as a whole, you realize that they're all the same exact story. It's just the author's personality. Yeah, the perspective of how things and shows like how or why things had changed in certain areas, and a lot of those changes are very small. And I think that's the same thing here with Atlantis if it did the changes that we're seeing today that we don't know. Our changes are actually very small compared to the originals. But because there's so many, it's growing them exponentially. And so we've lost where its location actually was, or is I should say, if it's still there.

13:19 Yeah, so we'll get into the different locations. The one thing I didn't find, and maybe. It's in the areas that are described, but it didn't say Bermuda. Like we talked about last week with the Remunia triangle, they claim that maybe Atlantis is the responsible party for the Breminia triangle having these anomalies. Right, So the first one is the more ancient, like as we go, it's it's getting closer and closer history than. We remember.

14:00 But Santorini, there was an eruption in Sanderini, and the theory proposed that Minoan eruption of Thera or now known as Sanderini around sixteen hundred BCE, which destroyed a sophisticated Brown Age civilization at Acroteriri. Again, these names are going to kill us today, I think, with Tsunamis and ash inspired. The myth of Atlantis. Proponents suggests the caldera shape with its submerged central island and ring of surrounding land and resembles Plato's description of Atlantis, which makes a lot of sense. However, the theory faces significant challenges, including inconsistencies with Plato's timeline and location of Atlantis, and evidence that the Minoan culture was not entirely destroyed but rather declined over time. Crete I've heard this theory.

15:00 A couple of times. The theory link and Crete to the Last City of Atlantis is based on the idea that Plato's description of Atlantis might have been inspired by the Minoan civilization, which flourished on crete thousands of years ago. While crete didn't sink into the sea as described in the Atlantas myth, the Minoan civilization did experience a catastrophic and possibly due to the eruption of their volcano, which is close to crete, and in that video game that I was telling you about, it kind of placed it somewhere in between Manoa and Crete.

15:44 Now now we're getting towards closer to our neck of the woods in a sense, the Azarus or Canary Islands. Both the Azarus and the Canary Islands have been suggested as possible locations for the last city of Atlantis, which with theories focusing on underwater structures like the submerged mountain loos Atlantis near the Canary Islands and alleged ancient megalithic constructions and cart ruts on the Azaus. While these locations are volcanically formed islands in the Atlantic as described by Plato, neither site has conclusive archaeological and geological evidence to suggest the existence of Atlantis, with many scholars believing Plato's count to be a philosophical allegory rather than a literal historical record. Now, one thing I will say before we move a little bit further is I saw an article recently that stated that there's been evidence to be found that the Greeks had a way of breathing underwater with reeds, and that's how a lot of these ruins that you see in the ocean were built. They built these things either in the ocean or brought them down and just used basically a snorkel.

17:11 Right to breathe underwater. I mean, that's very possible, and to this day people still do that using reeds to breathe. Right, that was the original, like, yeah, original way to snorkel. You know, whether or not it's it's hard to say, you know, because like they would have had to have some sort of in this case, especially considering it's the sea, so we're talking about saltwater here, uh, and ability it would have to have the ability to see as well, which means they would have had to form some sort of goggles. Right. Basically, they would have to form a ton of stuff in order to be able to stay down at the bottom, to weigh themselves down, to be able to use chisel or whatever other things that they use down there, and whether or not the formations or the rocks that they used or whatever other building would tears that they use were already there to begin with, or they had to move them from the land into the sea to build it.

17:58 You know, there's a lot of technically shot here and it kind of reminds you back to like Egypt, like how did how did they build the parents? Right? And so there's this really strong belief though that that Atlantis was very unique in its ability to be technologically advanced among all of the other civilizations. Right, it stood out as being technologically advanced, and people will, you know, they'll give they'll give credence to the possibility of alien help, actually terrestrial help to provide them with opportunities to build new devices to do this kind of stuff. And whether or not that's true is you know, neither here nor there.

18:47 There's no way to prove that currently. But if they really were so advanced and even more advanced and as someone will say, more advanced in our current society modern history, then yeah, there's definitely plenty of opportunities for them to actually go unto water and build it. But if they that the big question is if they did that, like if they went underwater to build this city and these mountains of you know, these this what is now ruins? Why do it at all? Like why build something that no one can see underwater? You know, unless it was some way of like praising a god or something or you know, some sort of warship. Yeah, it would be for praising Poseidon in Greek mythology at least, So yes, you're not wrong there. But yeah, there's so many more questions that rise up.

19:41 Where we talk about every time. Man, right, what what would be the the motivation of ancient civilizations to do the things that they did. I'm still looking for motivations for some of the stuff we do in this day and age. So trying to my motivations and things I do this day and age, Why did I do that? I don't even know what? All Right, we got two more locations here, and the last one will make a lot of sense to me as. To the location, but we'll get into it, all right. So the last two areas is the Caribbean Bahamas, which does link to the Bermuda triangle because that's in that region.

20:26 It just does not bring up Bermuda as the actual area Bamini Road and Edgar Casey's prophecies. The Beamini Road is an underwater geological feature off the coast of Bemini, Bahamas, consisting of large rectangular limestone blocks that resemble a road or wall. It's discovery in nineteen sixty eight coincided with a prophecy from psychic Edgar Casey that a portion of Atlantis would be revealed near Bemini around the time around that time, sorry, leading to speculation that the formation is an ancient ruin of the lost city. While some geologists suggest the blocks are a natural formation of b Troc which makes sense to me, others believe their arrangement indicates human construction, but consensus remains elusive. So that's part of our issue here with Atlantis as well, is the arguments, the constant arguments from scientific and archaeological digs, whether that's ocean or whatever, that are conflicting, which causes people to believe that Atlantis isn't a real at all. We're just arguing about this.

21:45 Right And I don't know if if you've ever some of you actually probably have seen it, but if you've seen the road, they pictures of this road that Justin was just talking about it does look like something that should be mad made because it is very uniform, perfect blocks. You know, these are ninety degree angles all around. So that is that is indeed very interesting because we don't typically see that in nature. You know, things tend to be a little more rounded, especially when they're in the water. It slowly rodes things away, of rocks away. So the fact that this particular area is built the way that it is does seem very suspicious. But again, there has been, as just I said, scientific support in which these things could very well be natural elements to our earth. And you know, I can't remember exactly how they said it would happen, but it you know, it's something that is very unique within the water systems in particular. So yeah, you know, it's hard to say whether something is man made or natural without actually being there, or at least being able to tell, like using various ownards as to what type of chisels or tools were used on them.

23:04 Mm hmm, you know, guys make sures or whatever. They could be due to tectonic plate changes too. I mean, it could be but even that's kind of weird because like the again, like you look at these it's a weird. Like if you guys know what a brick street looks like, there's a lot here in Cleveland. That's what it looks like. And it's not it's just not normal for for for the Earth to the break up. I don't to say the Earth to break up Earth. I guess now I can say can break up itself, but that also doesn't make it's just weird. Okay, it's just weird. I've had a long day, guys. Sorry, all right.

23:46 The last theory here is that Atlantis is actually in Antarctica, and it posits that the legendary city of Atlantis was located and it was now at Antarchica, which was once a temperate continent before its catstrophic shift to the polar regions and subsequent burial under ice. This popular fringe theory largely popularized in the nineteen nineties, which is interesting that I've never heard it, because that was around the time that I was getting interested in this stuff, as inspired by Charles Hapgood's controversial Earth's shifting crust theory, and is not supported by scientific evidence, as plate tectonics explains continental movements over much larger geological time scales. But it does make sense to me because we still don't know what Antarctica was before it became Antarctica. And although it says that Atlantis fell into the ocean, it being frozen over would make you think that it went into the ocean because there's no existence of it anywhere, right.

25:01 Yeah, I mean, that's that's hard to say. And again, like even with Antarctica, I mean, I know, there's been sonar uses to to kind of decipher how deep the ice actually extends into the. Earth, and they've found pyramids down there too, yeah. Which is pretty crazy, and you know, and it goes it's pretty deep, you know. Like I remember listening to a podcast about exploration and I believe it was on Erner's. Was it Ernest Shackleton in this case, I want to say it was, That could be wrong. Basically, it was early days of exploring the South Pole, trying to reach the South Pole, and they were using horses to move stuff, which you know, on ice and snow, you don't use horses because there's a lot of pressure individually pressed into the earth with the hooks. You know, you're supposed to use like sleds and use sled dogs. And stuff something right, And so these animals, as horses they be, they'd be running galloping through Antarctica trying to get to the South Pole, and then all of a sudden the horse would just disappear into a hole and just there was no end, like they just disappeared. And we see that even now today with sinkholes. You know, people who just follow the sinkhole.

26:16 You look down, they're gone, there's nothing there. Like the It is tremendous just how deep the Earth goes and how deep this ice goes. So who knows if there is If that is the case, you know, it may be miles below the surface, and in that case we probably never reach it anyway. On top of the though, I do want to say, like there was a time when all the continents were located. They're all central and one giant mass land, right, and due to the plate shift of the Earth, the continent slowly moved apart. So it's very possible that Atlantis was indeed at one point in a relatively tropical area and then slowly moved south into Antarctica. And you know, that's how I ended up freezing and potentially being buried by ice and snow another thing that I actually wanted to mention, go back a little bit to when you're talking about Centorini. You know the description of Atlantis basically being a central island and having a ring surrounding the land. Anybody know what Pompeii looks like, because there is speculation that Atlantis is indeed Pompeii.

27:33 There hasn't been enough evidence to prove it, but it is eerily similar in terms of the description of how it looks. Well. I know Shelley's been to Pompeii, so we'll have to ask her. But Pompeii didn't sink at all, right, well covered in lava. Right as far as we know. I mean basically, like what was the oh shoot, what was the volcano Vesivius seventy nine a d You know, it basically sent out a nasty ash cloud that froze people in time. I would have no doubt that there were some flooding at the time as well, because it would have created tsunamis for sure, just the shock alone. But yeah, you know, it's there's so many places that just looked very similar to this island with a ring around it, And there there's places down like in India. This place is near within the Bermuda and which is like an island within an island within an island. Uh, and you just you know, this was a constant ring. So again though, like you said, like where where this place could be or what it actually looks like, we don't really know. And there's so

29:05 many places that look similar that we can constantly just search, search, search, you never find evidence. And it's like, at what point do you say that this particular place is indeed atlantis? I mean there's so many civilizations that have been buried by time. Right, Well, and that raise of the question where these real locations linked to playo story or retrofitted to the theories which humans do time and time again to prove their theory. Is that well it says in the story. So by this evidence, it's this is where this whatever is? Right? All right, why don't you go over the evident archaeological evidence?

29:48 Okay, So when it comes to the archaeological evidence, you know, there are things for and against. Now, archaeological discoveries in particular sunken cities and las civilizations, Uh have been kind of there's been a lot. Okay, there's been quite a few cities that have stunk into the ocean, to say the least. Uh. And there's plenty that are currently sinking, and not only into the oceans, but in our own backyard. What is it does? Is it South Dakota or where's that one city that's currently sinking into a lake? Uh?

30:29 That's Devil's Lake. And the the reason that it's called Devil'slake is the city had already been consumed by the lake. And they claim that the devil did it. Got it. But yeah, you know, but we have things like that like the Again, the earth is constantly consuming the land. The water does not want. To stay where it is right. Uh. But anyway, with some of these these archaeological discoveries, we have first and foremost Pablo Petrie, which is Greece. It's the oldest known submerged city in the world, about five thousand years old, in particular brown Bronze age town off the coast of Greece, which remains remarkably intact. Then we have thus hercleus herkle Yes Eric Leone, my goodness gracious, and Canopus, which is in Egypt. Now these important ancient Egyptian ports and the Nile Delta sank due to seismic activity and rising sea levels, with many intact statues and temples that have been discovered. Another one is Outlit Yam, which is in Israel, and this is again another ancient UH, in this case neolithic village swallowed by the Mediterranean Sea.

31:52 Now its remains are an important source for understanding early human settlements. But again it just tells us that there are plenty of places that get sunk or gobbled up right by the oceans. And then of course we have UH. I only want to say Bay, but that's not entirely Aye, which is in Italy, and this is a Roman resort town which is now underwater due to again geological uplift and subsidence, subsidence in the region, with remains of villas and nymphium of Emperor Claudius and the This keeps going on.

32:36 Dwarka of India and ancient city found in the Gulf of Cambe featuring pillars, city grids and ancient artifacts, adding again to the mystery of its origin and age. And then Lion City in China also known as Shi Chang. This ancient city in particular was artificially submerged, submerged to create a reservoir and is not a popular diving site. And then we have Port Royal in Jamaica, a Caribbean pirate city that sank in an earthquake in sixteen ninety two, offering a glimpse into the poetical era. Now there are various reasons again as to why these places sunk, and why various cities, towns, countries, even you know, begin to sink.

33:24 One of course, is geological possibilities, the tectonic shifts among our earth tsunamis, which we have seen plenty of over the last fifteen years, basically which just happened too long ago due to an earthquake, rising sea levels. Again we're talking about climate change. But then there's this lack of direct evidence connecting anything to Atlantis. You see, like people don't know what exactly is a Atlantis, Like we don't have We have a small description of what it should be or what it could have been, but we don't have any examples of what had existed at any given time. So if we were even to find Atlantis without having a name, this is this is the city of Atlantis, and we can date it carbon dated to being around the time that Atlantis would have existed, we simply don't have proof that it is indeed Atlantis. You know. On top of that, there is, of course plenty of scientific skepticisms.

34:26 I don't think even just scientific skepticism. I think it's just a natural skepticism among people everywhere because Atlantis, again is one of those things that has been told to us as a tale. Since we're infants basically, right, we all heard of Atlantis at some point or anothert least most of us have, and it has often been described as being a myth, and it has been used in literature and pop culture as a myth as this place that you know, it's kind of like a fairy tale existence here among the earth, the place that is on like any other place in the world. And so with that, there's just skepticism as to whether or not Atlantis itself ever really truly existed, because we have yet to see any description of it. Not only of Atlantis itself, but like in any older culture, you know, most cultures, they'll they'll acknowledge another culture around them or of some far away country or state due to its power and strength.

35:29 There's the tail. Yeah, yeah, he's been up here, the whole time. But he's just right now. But yet we've seen nothing here, right, there's just been no indication that Atlantis has existed ever. Yeah and then oh yeah, go ahead, Oh I'm. Just gonna say, it's only been like us all on the fringe area, theorizing what this was, right. And yeah, so when it comes to you know, the fringe beliefs, the simple fact or I should say, yeah, the simple fact that Atlantis as an advanced civilization or even an extraterrestrial linked society isn't really a fact, Like, it's just something that has to be speculation. Like even nowadays, we we've been seeing you know, more and more increases in UFOs, Right, We've talked about this many times here on this show. And yet we don't have significant, infallible proof that these UFOs are extraterrestrial in nature. All we know is that there are these interesting objects that are seen in the sky by our eyes, by our cameras, and that's it. So to say that Atlantis was, indeed, you know, this hypothetical major city above all the others that was advanced technologically and even linked through extraterrestrial societ

37:02 kind of just puts more of the skepticism, I think on the plate because this thing is like, this city has so much rhyming, it so much pulled into that they can't be real. It couldn't have existed. Well. And yeah, I mean literally the the wording that you use cringe belief. There's a huge difference between belief and scientific fact or evidence. So that that really boils down to that. Atlantis and culture and paranormal circles is kind of leading this belief system in Atlantis. And there's I mean, there's so much stuff in pop culture and and you know, film literature. Like I mentioned it was a PC video game like Disney's Atlantis Aquaman. That's the DC side Namer, which was the Marvel side. It's bringing it's bringing all of this back to the forefront of people's minds. And in that that we are are leading our theories quote unquote by pop culture. You know, you've got also the esoteric traditions. Atlantis is a theosophy, New Age and psychic readings,

38:39 paranormal connections with advanced crystal technology, which in my mind, we have advanced crystal technology. Now it may not be the. Advanced crystal technology that the theories are talking about. But energy sources and psychic powers or abilities. And then it really brings the question how modern conspiracy theories and spiritual movements link to Atlantis, And so what are your thoughts on that? Like, is this because we have so many.

39:22 Different conspiracy theories out there saying you know, there's stuff that's being suppressed and whatever. And it's not that I don't believe that certain things are being suppressed, but with the spiritual movement and conspiracy theories coming up into modern day and making it more prevalent that you know, Atlantis was real, we're just being told it wasn't. Blah blah blah. What are some of your thoughts on that? I mean, you know, for whatever reason that Plato wrote, you know, the initial story of Atlantis, I think at this point is insignificant. Right. It exists in the minds of humanity because of the power that we poured into it, and it's like POMPEII or I'm sorry, I'm thinking, I'm thinking it's something regarden poppey right now. But if Atlantis or I think that Atlantis is kind of like it's kind of like this ideal world that I think people would want to live in themselves. Right, a place that is at the peak of all civilizations. So how do you advance so tactically driven, so more or less perfect city of gold type of thing. Right, We're talking like Heaven on Earth in a way in some cases. And because it's been made so extravagant over the years, I think there's just this misunderstanding or misideal

40:56 of what it could have actually been. Right, Like Atlantis, if it did exist, may not have been any more technologically advanced than any other civilization around the world. But because it disappeared, and we have this one particular story from Plato, I think people just pour into it and pour into it, poor into hoping that they'll be the one to find this giant treasure. Right, That's what it is at this point. It's a treasure hunt, and whoever gets it gets all spoiled and riches. But yeah, you know, I mean it's used in pop culture, it's used in film and in literature, and it's constantly added to and its ability to outdo the rest of the world. And then on top of that, like the idea of the advanced crystal technology and resources, all that stuff that all comes back to the whole extratrectial thing, mind you in the beginning of of the Bible and predict the Genesis six and we talk.

42:03 About, uh, the the sons of God in this case angels coming down and bearing women children. We talk about the nephilom right, These are heroes or giants, They were renowned. These are individuals that are capable of teaching civilizations the unknown stuff that we learned today. You know, so many will argue that some of the things that we learned, like psychic abilities or using crystal technology, was taught to us by these angelic human hybrids. Some will say it's actra treacial so aliens that taught us that.

42:45 But again I've said it before, it's very possible that the nephil them themselves are the aliens. Uh. You know, these these creatures basically that were able to create and use technology way so advanced, like you know, down thousands and thousands of years in advance technology compared to what was in modern time during those days. And if that's the case, that you know, it's very possible that if Atlanta was indeed a real place, and it was built as big as it was and had the technology that it did, then maybe there was something they're helping them out, Like how can a single type of human that that type of have that type of power and yet not exist, like cease to exist. There had to be a wrisen to their downfall, Like even if if Atlantis fell into the ocean, there should have been survivors.

43:41 It wouldn't typically just happen overnight and as it did. And that goes back to my biblical statement at the beginning of the show. Well, so you're saying more an ideology if Atlantis was real, an ideology that it was a utopian, not that it actually was right well, and so not to add to the. Conspiracy theory, but in the. Game I was talking about, it really emphasized the extraterrestrial part because it was a time travel game, but it was also we've made contact with aliens or extraterrestrials because they warned us that this technology would be harmful.

44:31 But that it was. Two warring races of extraterrestrials that destroyed Shangri Law, El Dorado and Atlantis. They didn't go into you know, other last civilizations that have been supposedly advanced civilizations that for their time, but it was it was really pushing that the that it was extraterrestrials that caused the destruction, right. Well, and that's very possible as well. Like and I think that's part of the problem is there's just so much speculation. You know that it has everybody spinning, and nobody knows which way to go, what to hold on to, because, like you know, you start to develop a theory and you start following that theory, but then all of a sudden a new piece of evidence pops up. Instead of continuing on your journey, you take a fork of the road and now you're searching something for something possibly in somewhere completely different, and before you know it, you're just old and gray and on your deathbed.

45:48 Right, maybe you'll find out what happened to. Maybe you'll find out then, you know, I don't know, Like it's there's there's so much speculation as to why Atlantis, if it existed, disappeared, and whether or not it was extra treshiows that destroyed it. There's God that destroyed it, whether it was a natural Earth event that destroyed it, we will never know, or at least not in I don't think anytime soon. I don't think in our lifetime, that's for sure. Atlantis is probably one of the most highly sought out civilizations ever and it has yet to be found, But they keep finding other things, which I guess is kind of beneficial. I was learning about history, just not the history we want.

46:35 Well, then you know that really boils down to like, was Atlantis just you know, a cautionary tale of humors and about the downfall civilizations? Because I mean history will will teach us time and again that civilizations will come and go. We should be learning lessons from history. There's possible parallels to today's society. Look at what's going on right now with climate change, the misuse of technology, the list goes on and on, and political changes that are constantly happening within our society. You know, if Atlantis existed, and really we can just leave it up to you guys, if it did or didn't, we'll kind of give our final thoughts about it. But what lessons should we take from it, Like should we be looking more at how we are living today and kind of adjust Because if Atlantis was destroyed because it was too advanced, say it was extra treasturials, they felt that or maybe Atlantis was an experimental city, let's say, buy extraterrestrials, and it got too powerful because we somehow just figured out how to

48:08 use the technology of the extraterrestrials against them. You know, do we need to kind of slow down in this society today? Today? We've been through several ice ages on this Earth. I shouldn't say we, the Earth has been through several ice ages. So with climate change that we're we're at right now, maybe we start preparing for possible small ice age. What does that look like? We don't know, but I really want to hear you guys thoughts on that too, because it's one of those things that we can just sit here speculate all we want, but I would really love to hear other people's thoughts. So we did a poll before today's episode, and basically it was, you know, do you believe Atlantis was real? There was yes, no, I don't know or not sure, but I would love to speculate, and the majority was not sure.

49:22 But I would love to speculate here. Earlies well, I mean, there's no doubt. It's fun to talk about, right, fun to think about. I think it would be cool if Atlantis did exist, whether or not it existed to you know, on part of what we currently believe it to have been. You know, that's a separate thing altogether. But I think if we did find a city named Atlantis, I think, I mean, a lot of people would just it blowed their minds, you know. I think a lot of people would just lose it. Well, I mean, the same thing can be said for if extraterrestrials actually made contact because we're not you know, we've we've talked about this lot with guests and even just doing individual shows with just you and I that it's not gonna be the governments to give us this information.

50:18 Let's be extraterrestrials to actually reach out to the populace. I think people would be losing their freaking minds about that too. But yeah, no, one hundred percent, you know, and I've got friends who one thousand percent believe that, you know, there's going to be a moment within the next year or so in which astatricial life makes it self known on the on their own. And again that's something we've talked about here on the show. Yeah, since like last summer basically, So it's it's really interesting. This is an interesting time that we're living in for sure, both in making modern history, but also and kind of subscribing to history itself. And the one thing that I notice is how, especially as an individual living in at the US of A how history repeats itself over and over again, and not saying that, you know, any one country relives itself its own, you know, history over and over, but it relives each other's history in many ways, you know. And again it reminds me of the Scripture. Is like there's going to be rumors of wars, and there's going to be earthquakes and you know, disasters, and these are all going to be growing pains, things that make us think the end is coming. With the end isn't going to come, because instead it's going to come like a thief in the night. Basically, we're not going to know what happens.

51:43 And I think a lot of what we're witnessing today, like in this world, I think it's a setup to an extent to make us focus in on the scary things that are happening and make us think about our past and what needs to be changed instead of focusing on our futures. Uh and even on our more in part particular on our present tense moments, right, Like, I think so many people, myself included, are so focused on the past of the future we forget to live now. And you know, by all means, we can speculate about Atlantis as much as we want, but for those who are interested in securing it, finding it, you know, like, what is the benefit of that? I think it's the question we need to ask. But also what can we learn from it? What can we learn from the story of Atlantis? Like at what point do we raise ourself too high on a pedestal? You know, there's like I forget the exact saying, but basically it's it's from a rapper named the Cree, a Christian rapper, and he calls it a power trip. Somebody who becomes so full of themselves, so prideful, so involve in what they have, that eventually they trip over their own power and they fall and they're humbled. And I think if anything comes to light here regard in Atlantis, is that it did, if it exists, it became so big, so magnificent, that it started to

53:14 boast about itself instead of helping other civilizations and cities and countries around it, that eventually it tripped and destruction came its way, whether it's by their own hand or someone else's, you know, who's to say. But I think that's something we need to take away from here, is there's a reason Atlantis doesn't exist today. You know? Why is it? You know? Well? And there is that quote that of course I don't know who who said it, but you know, those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Right.

53:55 We're seeing time and time again the history repeats itself, not to the exact letter per se, but we are constantly repeating history because I'll just say, the higher ups don't want to learn from history, like Eric just mentioned, they're just worried about power. They don't care what happens. And that that's pretty sad because we should be growing as a people, not declining. Right. Not to make it all political, no, I'm totally not. I'm just saying humanity as a whole, we're not learning from history.

54:36 No, for sure. But you know, but I think that takes us back to Atlantis because I think there's you know again, there's so much speculation. I see why it no longer exists if it did exist, like why did it fall? Why was it? Everyone wants to say, oh, it's destroyed by this, that, that, or this. Like I say at the beginning of the show, if you were to abandon your house for a year, just leave it for a year, don't come back, don't check on it. Nothing. When you come back, I bet there's vines coming up up the you know, coming up the side of the house. You got trees growing and destroying the foundation. You probably have animals living inside of it. That's after a year, right, probably there's completely different. So there's a good chance that whatever civilization existed in Atlantis, the Alantheans maybe weren't as powerful as they thought they did, and a rival came destroyed and plunged the city. It became the ghost town, and the earth took back what it's rightually belongs to itself, right if there was no one there to tend it.

55:38 And that's why Atlantis disappeared. Either the people there were destroyed or they just simply left and they raced history themselves. And we're going to make that your final thoughts. That's fair. I'm not going to even ask because I don't want to hear no. But OK, well, I hope you all have enjoyed this, Share your theories and thoughts with us, whether it's comments on wherever you're listening or watching on social media. Email us. We love to get emails from listeners. Paratruth radio at gmail dot com, get on our website paratruth dot com.

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