June 8, 2025

Shamanism and Your Shadow w/Granddaughter Crow

Shamanism and Your Shadow w/Granddaughter Crow
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In this powerful and thought-provoking episode, we sit down with Granddaughter Crow—author, spiritual teacher, and Indigenous wisdom keeper—to explore the themes of her book Shamanism and Your Shadow: Healing Personal and Collective Wounds. Together, we dive into what it means to face the shadow self, how ancient shamanic practices can guide modern healing, and why embracing both light and darkness is essential to personal and spiritual growth. From ancestral trauma to inner transformation, this conversation is a journey through truth, balance, and empowerment.

Guest Bio:
Granddaughter Crow is a medicine woman, public speaker, teacher, intuitive reader, and author of Wisdom of the Natural World. Descended from a long line of spiritual leaders, she is an empath, medium, and member of the Navajo Nation. She was voted Woman of the Year in 2015 by the National Association of Professional Women (NAPW). For more, visit GranddaughterCrow.com.

Also, check out Llewellyn's LlewellynCon! Granddaughter Crow will be speaking at it on June 20th!

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Thanks for listening!

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Welcome. Wel go well do Parry Truth.

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How's the going, Paratruthers. Welcome to a brand new episode

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of Paratruth Reborn. This is a pre recorded show on

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one of seven point seven FM New Orleans and United

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Public Radio Network. My name is Justin and I am

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running so today Eric had a job come up, so

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I'm just gonna get right into it. Tonight we are

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talking to Granddaughter Crow. She is a medicine woman, public speaker,

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teacher and two reader, and author of Wisdom of the

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Natural World. She is also the author of her new book,

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Shamanism and Your Shadow, which we are going to be

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talking to her about. She's descended from a long line

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of spiritual leaders. She is an EmPATH, medium and member

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of the Navajo Nation. She was voted Woman of the

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Year in twenty fifteen by the National Association of Professional Women.

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For more, visit Granddaughter Crow dot com and without further ado,

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I'm going to pull her in for the conversation. Welcome

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to Paratruth Reeborn.

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How's it going, Oh, Justin, thank you so much. I've

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been looking forward to being a Paratruther.

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Well, I appreciate that you not only wanted to be

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on the show, but got caught up on some of

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what we do.

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Absolutely, I absolutely love it and I'm looking forward to However,

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our conversation. I'm an open book as I have written them, so.

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Right, all right, Well, first and foremost we usually ask

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everybody this, how did you get into this? And what

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made you write Shamanism, Shamanism and your Shadow.

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Yeah, that's a that's a great question. Getting into this,

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I would say I was born and raised by spiritual leaders,

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always been uh as a child, I was always you know,

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in the paranormal and things like that. And then I

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left and I ran and I didn't do it, and

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I closed my third eye if you can, and I

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tried and and then I came back about twenty years ago.

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So what led me to write this book? Well, if

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you follow me, you kind of know, oh, granddaughter Crow,

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she's a shaman. She likes to talk about death in

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terms of oh, they're transitioning, just like you know, butterflies

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go through trans transition. So I'm a very light touch

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to a lot of these topics. And then the pandemic

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hit and reality struck where people were sheltering in place,

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people were social distancing, people were not distracted by going

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to the restaurant, going to wherever you go to, and

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they had to stay home. And I think that in

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that time of solitude, individuals actually started hearing their shadow,

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hearing themselves a little bit more, which led me to go, oh,

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we need a shadow book. I'm going to stop being

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a little nice granddaughter Crow, and I'm gonna throw down.

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I'm going to talk about the hard stuff, the dark

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knight of the soul, the shadow and get people to

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do this type of work through introducing them to it,

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not in necessarily a spooky psychology way. You have an

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evil side, this is called your shadow quote unquote, but

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from an organic shamanistic side, which is more natural world.

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Everything has a shadow, even your most favorite tree, if

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you have a favorite tree as a shadow, and so

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I make it a lot more organic. So yeah, it's

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a little darker than what I'm used to being. But honestly,

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my husband just said, oh, they need to see this

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side of granddaughter Crow. Here we go.

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Well that's awesome that he's super supportive of it, for sure.

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So those that are unfamiliar with shamanism and even more

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so shadow work, can you explain to us what shamanism is,

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and then in turn what shadow work is and how

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those two kind of combine.

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Absolutely so shamanism and I do lay this out in

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the book Shamanism and Your Shadow Definitions of Shamanism and

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going into that because shamanism tends to be a very

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blanket term, just like karate is a blanket term with

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martial arts, or at least it used to be. And

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when I was growing up, it's like, oh, I'm in karate,

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Oh what kind? Oh taekwondo or juditch, but everybody knows that,

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you know, it's it's they're talking to martial arts. So

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shamanism is almost like this catch all of this idea

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that the one person in an indigenous tribe this is

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where it began, is going to be the intermediary between

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the unseen world and the seen world on behalf of

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their you know, tribe. And sometimes the unseen world is well,

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it's the spiritual world, but it really is complemented with

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a lot of organic natural world. So there's a lot

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of different shamans globally. There's neo shamans people reading about

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shamanism and connecting with it and their spirit on the internet.

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So that would be neo shamanism traditional shaman being raised

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in a traditional culture in order to support people. But

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other than that, there's a lot of differences. But for me,

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it really when I state shamanism, it is a spiritual

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path that works with the natural world. Most practitioners are

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individual It's not like you go to a coven or

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a church or or something like that. You do individual

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solo practitioners, and you basically work on behalf of the

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unseen world for the group, the community, the people. And

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so I am Navajo, I am indigenous, I'm half Navajo

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full you know, I've got my UH Certificate of Indian blood,

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and so shamanism really flows through my blood. As far

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as that goes. However, I would say that I am

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not fully traditional, but I'm a little neo. But I

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am also like representing the natural world and helping people

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to see the wisdom of the natural world, which is

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another book that I have written. So that's shamanism. Shadow

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work what is it? Carl Jung coined the phrase shadow self,

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and so when we go into looking at the shadow,

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I'm not just a woo ooo. I can understand the

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unseen online word natural world, but I'm also a scientist,

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you know. And so when I talk about the shadow,

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I start out and really kind of unpack it as

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defined by psychology as well as you know, especially leaning

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on Carl Jung even his conversations a little bit with

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uh Freud and the ID and the super ego and

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the ego, and then kind of go into a little

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kneeche I throw a little nieche in there where everything

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needs a little niche in there, you know, kind of

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questioning morality and what is what is morality in terms

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of is our is our shadow our shamed spot because

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it wasn't in the moral or the morality of the

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social construct that we grew up in. And now maybe

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it's we need to understand that it's okay to be

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a left handed artist, because that was a sin when

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I was young. That was the moral code of you know,

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the people when I was young is no left handed.

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So it really is kind of this idea of there

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are things within yourself that may have been shamed due

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to a quote unquote moral or morality code based on

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the social group that you were raised in, that have

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hidden themselves into your shadow side, and now they are

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really creative aspects of authenticity that may need to come out.

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So how would I define shadow personally parts of yourself

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that are hidden, most likely due to external shame.

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Okay, well, it's it's interesting that you bring up the

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the ego and all of the psyche stuff, because I

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had opened myself up to mediumship, oh gosh, probably about

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the time we started podcasting two thousand and eight, two

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thousand and nine, and even to this day. Even though

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a lot of people tell me that I'm a natural medium,

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I just kind of had to work at it a

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little bit at first. I never know, like, what what

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is my ego or my my inner thoughts compared to

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what I'm getting to spirit? Do you do you struggle

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with that as well with your work.

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I know that what you are saying is one correct,

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and I think that anybody who doesn't have that awareness

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or consciousness, they're struggling with it outside of their own awareness.

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Because the ego, the super ego. How do I handle it?

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So what I do is before I do a podcast,

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I did it before I did this podcast, Before I

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do a read or a speaking engagement. However, I literally

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make an agreement with whatever it is that you identify

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as the divine and what I say, I'd love to

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just share with you what I say. I say, welcome, Welcome, welcome,

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Welcome into this space, Welcome into this time. Defining it right,

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I draw a circle around this space and time. This

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is sacred space, This is sacred time. I declare it,

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which has a lot of power behind it. And then

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I say, I set my ego to the outside of

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this circle, so I could be a conduit for you

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and for the divine as it reveals itself to you

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and within you, may I be a clear conduit. So

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I recognize, and I've been doing that for twenty years,

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so I recognize that the ego, my ego is there.

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I am gonna go, oh my god, you look like

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my best friend from kindergarten, and I'm gonna treat you

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like my best friend from kindergarten, when really you're not

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my best friend from kindergarten. And so we all have

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those projections. We all have the ego self. Trust me,

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I love the ego self. I make my ego my amigo,

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like I befriend it and to the extent that this

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is how I see it. My ego makes me take

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a shower and put on the odorant for you you

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know my ego. You know, I mean to do these

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these things so that I am like prisent ble, but

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then it can get out of whack, just like a

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two year old or a four year old. Look at me,

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look at me. And it's kind of like, let's go

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ahead and set that to the outside so that we

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can actually talk. And I call it an agreement. Some

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would call it a prayer, but I call it an

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agreement because I understand the divine that it reveals itself

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to each of us in accordance with how we can

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understand it right, and that includes scientific So I'm making

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an agreement with the energy. And when I continue to

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do that, then I do that all the time for

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the last twenty years. And so it's almost like when

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I do that, what it does to me individually is

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it aligns me and goes, Oh, let's get into that

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like meditative state. Let's get into that transstate. Let's get

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into this is the clue that I'm not going to

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be thinking about what's for dinner or anything. This is

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the clue or that you're my bez from kindergarten. This

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is my signal. It's almost like a hypnotic symbol. Or

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signal to me to go here, I am in this state.

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So it's an agreement that I have been doing with

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the universe and I do it with myself and so

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I know, hey, look, this isn't about me, and so

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a lot of times, most of the time, I don't

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remember what happens, and I may hear about it later

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and I'm like, oh man, that's so cool, you know,

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But really it's just me understanding that I have an

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ego and projection and me handling that prior to it

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being messy. But great question, justin yeah.

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Well, and thank you for sharing how you do it,

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because I felt the power just from you saying it.

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So that's something I just need to practice more. And

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I read through quite a bit of the book. I

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want to work through it all and start working with

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my shadow because it's something I have not worked on yet,

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is shadow work. So the one thing I wanted to

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ask you is, you know many people fear their shadow?

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Why shadow work essential for healing and transformation?

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Absolutely, So there's a couple of things I believe we

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were okay. So earlier I mentioned that the shadow is

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a hidden aspect of yourself due to shame, and I

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alluded to that the shame is coming from an external

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morality code, from the social people that you grew up

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with or around, and so I think it's really scary

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to work with the shadow because your inner child was

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taught taught Oh that's bad. I can't believe that you're

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writing with your left hand, or I can't believe that

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you're seeing ghosts. I can't believe that you said that

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you saw Uncle Earle. That's not what we do. And

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so the person gets shamed and a lot of their

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gifts get hidden, and so it's very difficult. That's one

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of the stigmas around the shadow is you have to

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the first doorway that you got to walk through, you

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got to walk through it with courage because you've been

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so shamed. And I think that shame is external, and

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it's kind of like and then blame is internal, blame

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is internal. Shame doesn't matter. I'm so full of wonderful

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little things. Oh, at the end of the day, we

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start blaming ourselves. Oh well, I'm not psychic. Oh well

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I didn't see that, Uncle Earl. I didn't do that.

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And so the first door that you walk through, you

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have to walk through it with a lot of courage

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because you were told all your life that you're going

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to meet a monster. Why is it so important? What? Okay?

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What okay? There are forces that would love to control

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the masses, and I'm not just like spiritual demonic forces.

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We can go there justin. But what I'm saying is

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like societal, governmental, religious, sect these things that need to

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control masses. And if the masses stop behaving like sheep

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and start becoming authentic and thinking for themselves, if these

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masses start revolting because you told them that your power,

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because they told you that your power was shameful, and

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then you start discovering it, that's why I think everybody

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should do it. I mean, not everything that you run

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into is going to be beautiful, but it is going

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to be authentic. It is going to be you. And

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the more shadow work you do, the less the dprogramming

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of said entities, demonic or governmental or religious or whatever happens.

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Because now you're able to think for yourself. Now you're

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able to go, oh wait, I'm not the bad guy.

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I know myself. I can stand up for myself, and

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you don't automatically go into shame. I'm a sinner. I

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need to be saved by an external force. Now you

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go into Okay, I am human, I know who I am.

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Some of that is really painful. I've got a lot

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of gifts. This doesn't make sense, but I am me,

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and you can't control people who know that they are

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themselves the me.

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Yeah. Well, I'm glad you bring that up because I

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wouldn't missed not to mention that. You know, Eric comes

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from a very Christian background. He was saved again, and

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you know when we first started podcasting, he went a

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very right wing route when he first came to faith,

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and now he has become a completely different person in

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his faith and in his understanding of things. He has

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done shadow work, he has done a lot of things

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that most traditional Christians call him out on, saying that

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you're you're not a Christian for doing this. So I'm

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super thankful that he's in that path because a lot

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of people would look at shadow work as a demonic

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practice or you're talking to demons because you're working through

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your shadow to work through trauma. So I super appreciate

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that you brought that up. So thank you so much

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for that something that a lot of people might not

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know about. This type of work is how to recognize

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when their shadow is influencing them their life choices, and

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how to go about working on that. So how do

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people identify when their shadow is influencing their their life?

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I I absolutely love that question, and also thank you

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for you know, the compliment around talking about that, because

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I love you know, Christians, I love people, I love

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spiritual paths. But when the spiritual path tells you that

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you're not allowed to question, that is when I go,

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wait a second, Okay, So when do you know it's

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your shadow until you do shadow work? Yeah, don't because

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it's hidden. It's the by nature, by the actual word shadow,

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you don't know what you're doing. However, when you do

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work with your shadow, you're like, oh, I see what

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I'm doing, and it's very therapeutic. So let me give

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you an example around that, and I'm going to go

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just I'm just gonna lay it out. When I was

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seventeen years old, I was going to the grocery store

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picking up some food for myself, carrying them home, and

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I was walking home. The grocery store was probably half

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a mile away, and it was starting to get dark,

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and so I, you know, did a short cut through

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the alley. Don't remember much except for a male voice

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coming up behind me, talent and something sharp in my

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lower back. And he said, you will do what I

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tell you, and you will not say a word. And

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I smelt like strong alcohol. Now I'm fine, you know,

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people drink alcohol. That's fine with me. Is but this

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was like very like I don't know, and and that's

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one of my memories of it. And I remember he

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was just not that much taller than me, so probably

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five foot eight, and he reeked and I remembered how

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big he was, and at that moment, my mind just

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kind of jew z it, you know, kind of doubt,

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you know. And I have just a fun fact. I

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have a whistle like I can whistle, not you know,

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just whistling like, but I have a whistle like you

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would do at a hockey game that nurses ears. It

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is so alarming that people would cover their ears. And

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I knew this about myself, and that was the first

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thing that popped into my head. It said, whistle, And

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I let out this screech that would have called bats like.

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I whistled so loud, and all I remember is him

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losing his grip on me. I remember turning a little bit,

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seeing him on the ground holding his ears because I'm

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sure it shocked him, and running home. And that was

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what I believed to be the birth of one of

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my shadows. It was trauma. And there is an aspect

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and was for forty years, an aspect of me that

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if I had any sensation that a man came up

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to me from the same angle with the smell of alcohol,

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I would be the worst, the meanest person. You can

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fill in the witch blank. Then I was horrid, and

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I would wake up the next day and I'd be like, Wow,

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that was out of sorts. Maybe he wasn't really doing anything. Wow,

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what was that? And I finally, through shadow work, I

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realized that there's an aspect of me that I believe

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was born or I perceive as born in that moment.

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Maybe the further down the road, I'll understand it differently.

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But in that moment, that was my protector. She saved

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my life, and she continues to do so if she

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thinks that I'm in harm. However, what happened was I

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wasn't in that kind of harm. For the next forty

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years or so, you know, we're just kind of, you know,

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rolling over it, and so what happens is, oh, now

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granddaughter Crow has a shadow who is a mean, mean person,

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and all you have to do is be a male

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and walk up to her left side with alcohol on

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your breath and she flips out. So when I realized

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finally that that was my shadow, I started talking to

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her and I told her, thank you, thank you, thank

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you for saving my life. But I'm safe now, I'm

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with a wonderful husband, and I don't need to do

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that anymore. That it's it was a very primal, reactionary thing,

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and so that's what I want to also encourage people

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to do shadow work, because you don't know. I mean, yeah,

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I was like, oh gosh, I'm so mean when this happens.

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But I didn't understand myself. I didn't understand that what

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I was trying to do is protect myself. And once

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I understood that, it came to the four frontal cortex

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of my mind and I was like not the amigdala,

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like oh, fight, flight, freeze, and I was like, oh

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my goodness, these situations make my body feel afraid. So

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I'm going to be aware of that in the future.

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And now it's fine. Like I talked to my shadow,

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and she's just like, I got you just chrome.

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I'm glad that we were able to do this show

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because the more we talk, the more I'm starting to

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understand things that have been happening recently for me when

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me and me and my wife have a great relationship,

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but over the past few years we've had some roadbumps

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here and there, and something that happens to me if

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she says a certain thing or acts a certain way,

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I react in a very negative way and I'm trying

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to work through to not do that. So I feel

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doing some shadow work would be beneficial to me. But

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vice versa as well. She reacts to to how I'm

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reacting to her, or she'll react about something I'm not

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doing or doing something in a way that she's not

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okay with. So I feel we would both benefit from this.

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Just from you telling me how shadow work can help,

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oh big time.

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And you know, justin the the beauty is, isn't it.

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I think that a lot of people have that, And

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as you go through your shadow work, I think that

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I know my shadow. She's trying to protect me. She's

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trying to keep me out of danger, and so she

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has very basic and I'm not saying I'm sorry shadow.

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She's like, I'm not basic, but she's very She's in

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touch with my Amigdala, my fight flight freezer fawn. She's

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in touch with that. And my frontal cortex is gonna override,

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like I'm not in the backstreets, I'm not with this

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guy that's gonna rape or kill me, but my body

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still feels like that. So it's almost like an intermediary.

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And when you walk through the book Shamanism and your Shadow,

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I have some I offer some very one wonderful, wonderful

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tour guides and one of which that will come to

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you to help you understand where that came from. Why

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is this person reacting? Why am I reacting that much?

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Because when you wake up in the morning, you're just like, yeah,

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that was an overreaction, oh gosh, yeah, but I can't

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believe how much energy came and it's like, yeah, you're

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a miggalow is triggered. And so when you walk with

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the Shamanism and the Shadow, an owl comes to help

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you meditatively understand why you are reacting the way that

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you are and tries to bring insight so that you

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give respect, honor, and gratitude for your shadow, because your

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shadow saw something that maybe out of space and time

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and maybe needs to get healed healed, but it was there.

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And so I always think, you know, shadow, we're not

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talking about oh I'm going to kill this person, you

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know it, worry. It really is that very basic basis

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of the human existence. And so it would be really

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interesting after both you and your wife read this book,

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talk to the owl and the owl portion and start

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to begin to understand that what your wife said wasn't

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what you understood, but why you understood that way has validity.

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Okay, so the shadow sounds very much like a protector.

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It's trying to protect you. It just doesn't know when

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to let go of that protection.

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Basically, yeah, I absolutely that's I believe that one. And

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I've been doing a shadow work for a very long

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time and then I never write a book that I'm

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not willing to do, and I wrote this book. So

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I've done some really deep shadow work. And let me

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just tell you, it's so empowering, because could you imagine

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the things that you have been ashamed of and in

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yourself actually have explanation and that it's not broken. You're

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not broken. You're maybe writing on an old app where

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it's perceiving things differently. But that's how I perceive the

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shadow in all of the work that I've done. Every

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time I talk to my shadow and she tells me

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the truth, she is very very I mean, I'm in

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love with my shadow, like she's my best friend now,

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and she is like dark and spooky and all of that,

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but she doesn't She's not like spooky because she wants

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to scare me or is some sort of a bad thing.

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She actually is just like, oh, don't do that. You know,

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remember when you get into the situations like that. This,

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I mean, she's wise counsel.

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Okay, huh. Now, can you speak on the importance of

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nature or your ancestors or your spirit guides in this

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process of working through your shadow? Work?

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Absolutely on. The reason why I take this position as

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shamanism and your shadow is because of the shall I say,

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I don't know if it's propaganda or messaging or programming

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of never talk to your shadow, because it has so

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many gifts and so much wisdom. So basically I wanted

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to take away the stigma, the even religious stigma of

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the shadow is your devil side, The shadow is the

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devil that's sitting on one of your shoulders, right, you

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can't hear it and take all of that programming, app stigma, propaganda,

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whatever you want to call it away and bring it

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into this more organic understanding through these lenses of Wait,

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why am I afraid of my shadow? Everybody has one? Okay,

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wait if I walk out until my back yard, my

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beautiful garden has a shadow, my beautiful tree has a shadow,

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my beautiful cat has a shadow. Wait, but they're not

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reacting the same way that my app, my program my

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propaganda has been activated. They just see the shadow as

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a part of Anything that comes into the light has

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a shadow. It is a part of it. Anything that

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the sun touches in the natural world has a shadow.

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It is organic. And when you kind of like, go, well,

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find granddaughter Crow, I'll take a night or two and

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put on those lenses and look through them and see

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what you're talking about, I am like, please do so,

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because you're not gonna see what I'm talking about. You're

463
00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:02.159
gonna see what you know, what you understand all of

464
00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:09.320
your natural world understanding. So basically bringing it into the

465
00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:13.679
natural world from a shamanistic point of view, the idea

466
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:17.119
of everything has a shadow, takes a part of that

467
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:23.599
stigma already away and could be done in couples or

468
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:29.239
a book club or friend groups. And I literally will

469
00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:34.760
if you if any of your listeners go, I've got

470
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:37.960
a book club, We're going to do the shadow work.

471
00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:43.360
You email me www dot granddaughter crow dot com. I

472
00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:45.920
know we're going to go there and drop me an email.

473
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:49.239
It's on my website, and just go, I'm in a

474
00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:52.760
book club. We've been reading your book. Could you do

475
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:57.199
an hour zoom with us, free of charge, talking about

476
00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:00.320
what we found and how you're doing what you meant

477
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:03.239
and we could ask you whatever questions. I'm there, I

478
00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:09.440
will do that because what I've already found is people

479
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:15.440
feel so much more comfortable with themselves and it's not

480
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:19.800
scary if you go through the natural world.

481
00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:27.320
Now, what is one simple practice you can tell listeners

482
00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:31.400
to try today to begin exploring their shadow.

483
00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:41.599
Okay, so the first thing I'll say is, if you're

484
00:37:41.719 --> 00:37:46.519
listening and you got to this question, my belief tells

485
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:50.320
me you're not just curious, but your shadow is actually

486
00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:55.559
calling you. It's calling you because it misses you and

487
00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:58.119
it wants to explain itself. It wants to connect with you.

488
00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:03.320
It's an aspect of you. And what could they do?

489
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:18.599
I would say something very light a candle and breathe

490
00:38:18.840 --> 00:38:26.360
inhale slowly, hold your breath. Exhale through your mouth, inhale

491
00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:36.199
through your nose. Hold your breath, exhale three times inhale,

492
00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:45.440
hold exhale, and remember that the light that you're looking

493
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:51.760
at is casting a shadow. And shadow doesn't mean bad,

494
00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:57.519
shadow doesn't mean evil, shadow means hidden.

495
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:12.519
So looking through the book and kind of understanding how

496
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:19.480
spiritualism and spirituality really works. A lot of people may

497
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:24.960
not even realize this, but can ancestral trauma affect you

498
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:27.400
and your shadow? And how do you work through that?

499
00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:34.079
Oh yeah, that's a great question. Yeah, so, oh yeah,

500
00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:36.039
So I talked to my shadow. I talked to my

501
00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:48.440
ancestors because I have I have an idea, a philosophy

502
00:39:48.480 --> 00:39:54.760
of my own thought that basically says that shadow work.

503
00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:58.079
And it's actually a lot of people are looking into this,

504
00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:00.480
and I believe there's a lot of stud but I

505
00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:06.840
found myself in this mind frame of can shadow work

506
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:11.840
be ancestral? And so then I kind of look at it,

507
00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:15.320
and then I looked at it like what caused my

508
00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:20.960
shadow to be? And my first answer is trauma. Did

509
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:24.960
the Navajo nation go through trauma? Did my ancestors go

510
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:29.400
through trauma? Why? Yes they did. It was called the

511
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:32.440
Long Walk of the Navajo. It's just like the same

512
00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:35.719
time of the Trail of Tears with the Lakota. It

513
00:40:35.880 --> 00:40:39.199
was the US government trying to wipe out a nation,

514
00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:43.239
and so do I still hold that in my DNA

515
00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:52.760
one percent? And it's kind of beautiful because from that lens, yeah,

516
00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:55.280
I guess you could go, oh my god, there's so

517
00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:58.360
much work to do. But from another I know, right,

518
00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:03.519
but from another linz, it's like, but wait a second,

519
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:14.159
maybe some of what I'm reacting to was ancestral. Maybe

520
00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:18.039
I still have the DNA that wants to run. I

521
00:41:18.079 --> 00:41:22.480
still have the DNA that doesn't trust this person or

522
00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:26.199
that person. I still have that DNA within me. But

523
00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:30.760
because I was raised in the United States and I

524
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:33.880
don't remember those and I haven't done the history, I

525
00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:36.880
don't know why I am reacting the way that I am.

526
00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:41.840
So yeah, it's ancestral trauma. I go into that a

527
00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:47.239
little bit in the book Ancestral Trauma, and I definitely

528
00:41:48.039 --> 00:41:52.320
the beauty around it for me is it's once again

529
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:57.840
another indicator that we are all connected, that I am

530
00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:00.960
a part of something that is greater than myself, and

531
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:10.039
that if I am the answered prayer to my Noveljo Ancestors,

532
00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:15.000
then why wouldn't I write a book about how other

533
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:19.199
ancestral groups can heal because they need it too.

534
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:27.639
That's a super powerful point because I know that there

535
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:33.079
is still horrible travesties happening to Native American people and

536
00:42:33.119 --> 00:42:38.000
it's not okay. I'm one of the people that no

537
00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:44.440
history over connecting with my ancestral trauma, but I totally

538
00:42:44.440 --> 00:42:49.239
get how as a people, the Native American culture can

539
00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:54.119
still be holding onto that because of their shadows, you know,

540
00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:57.320
holding onto that ancestral trauma, and not that it's not

541
00:42:57.519 --> 00:43:02.039
deserved against the American government, totally is, but it's one

542
00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:05.960
of those things that you have to break it to,

543
00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:07.800
you know, to work through.

544
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:11.719
It all, absolutely one hundred percent. And you know, the

545
00:43:11.719 --> 00:43:18.639
the whole thing is the answers are within you. But

546
00:43:18.760 --> 00:43:23.559
you were told to be afraid of it, all right, right,

547
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:28.639
so don't be afraid pick up the book. I like, seriously,

548
00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:35.400
Shamanism in your shadow. If you're a Christian. It's not

549
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:38.599
going to deter you like throw out what doesn't work

550
00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:42.400
for you. It's not like a religious text if you

551
00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:46.159
are a Buddhist, if you are Pagan, if you whatever.

552
00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:52.199
This compliments it and it literally is like I am shaman,

553
00:43:53.639 --> 00:44:02.320
and I am here to help you to discover yourself

554
00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:08.639
the aspects of yourself that you threw away or you

555
00:44:08.760 --> 00:44:15.280
hid because the moral compass of the group that you

556
00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:20.519
were raised in said this. And I'm not saying that

557
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:25.880
they were right nor wrong. I'm not a judge. I

558
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:33.039
am like, but wouldn't it be so much more scientific, intellectual,

559
00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:37.679
and better benefit to you if you understood why your

560
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:44.719
behavior is the way that it is when something minute happens,

561
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:48.960
when you have a reaction because they use this word

562
00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:53.400
instead of that word, and understand where you are. So

563
00:44:54.239 --> 00:45:00.119
in short, justin like one of the things I I've

564
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:05.159
done a lot of self work, shadow work, but I

565
00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:09.159
know my purpose here on earth, and my purpose is

566
00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:18.800
to inspire, encourage and empower you to be your authenticity,

567
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:24.119
not to follow me, but to be yourself because I

568
00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:29.320
believe in a divine that created you to be that

569
00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:36.760
special authenticity, that special snow flake ry and nobody can

570
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:41.519
be you. And if you can understand more of why

571
00:45:41.559 --> 00:45:46.360
you are you, even your sharp edges, even the shadow

572
00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:49.599
that you cast on the world, doesn't that make you

573
00:45:49.639 --> 00:45:50.360
more brilliant?

574
00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:58.159
Everything you're saying superal stuff. So I'm so thankful that

575
00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:02.039
you were able to come on with me something that

576
00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:10.039
that psychology, any anything that you're doing. Yeah, it all evolves.

577
00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:13.119
So how does shadow work evolve? And is is it

578
00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:17.039
ever truly done? Are we ever done shadow working?

579
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:21.440
I love that question? Are we ever done? Being in

580
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:21.880
the light?

581
00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:31.079
Very good point. I mean, you're you're you're always walking

582
00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:34.000
both lines, So absolutely, I get it.

583
00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:39.119
I know that was that was a short yapper for

584
00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:44.920
dramatic pause. I get you just but basically I haven't.

585
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:50.920
I have not stopped doing shadow work, but it definitely

586
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:55.000
is a joy for me to do. The first time

587
00:46:55.039 --> 00:47:00.679
I did it, I was like And the second time

588
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:03.400
I did it, I was like, I'm cool, you know,

589
00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:06.199
I can myself. And then the third time I did it,

590
00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:09.400
I was like, oh gosh, now I understand you too.

591
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:11.920
And then the fourth time I did it, I was like, whoa,

592
00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:15.039
I understand human nature. The fifth time I did it,

593
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:21.280
I'm like, this is what we do. I understand intellect

594
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:27.239
and intellect is light and shadow. Intellect has to do

595
00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:31.079
with what is known and what is not known. Digging

596
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:36.639
into unknown brings more intellect. So I'm a very intellectual person.

597
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:41.920
I am very much a person who is like, let's

598
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:44.320
put some light on that. And when you put some

599
00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:47.920
light on that, yeah, get another shadow. So what I

600
00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:52.440
would say is that over the course of time, it

601
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:56.559
is so much more like I'm not afraid to do

602
00:47:56.639 --> 00:48:02.159
shadow work at this point, I'm actually embracing it. And

603
00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:06.320
I feel like my shadow is the aspect of myself

604
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:12.800
that I protect because she knows me and knows when

605
00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:16.760
I am like in harm's way, and has protected me

606
00:48:16.920 --> 00:48:21.880
many times. And sometimes you know, what she has to

607
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:26.119
say is out of date, and time is not in

608
00:48:26.280 --> 00:48:30.159
this space, is not in this time, and she is

609
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:36.519
automatically taking things out on like almost as though she's

610
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:41.199
got this play going and once she gets her cue,

611
00:48:41.719 --> 00:48:43.840
this is the role that she's going to play, and

612
00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:45.960
she's going to do this, and she's going to do that,

613
00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:49.159
and she's gonna devaluate you. But when I get to

614
00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:53.000
know her and go, why are you doing that, She's like,

615
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:57.119
because I thought this and then she grows and I grow,

616
00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:00.079
like she's no longer in the shadow. She's just like

617
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:04.199
like I protected you, and I'm like, thank you, and

618
00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:08.760
you don't have to have those reactions towards my husband

619
00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:13.599
because that's over and I appreciate you. It's just like

620
00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:20.559
if you're a baby and you don't nobody's hearing you,

621
00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:25.159
you keep crying, but when somebody comes in and says,

622
00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:29.199
it's okay, you just got a burp, and you come

623
00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:31.800
back into this space and time. So it's kind of

624
00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:35.360
like your shadow will keep crying and barking at you

625
00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:42.480
until you give it. It's do respect. That's what I see.

626
00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:45.000
That's my position. And I know that there's a lot

627
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:50.880
of truths on Para Truths and our parent Ruther, but yeah,

628
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:54.039
that's that's one of my truths. It's like you, I

629
00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:58.400
get to help my shadows side because it's almost like

630
00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:02.719
she's lost outside of space some time, meaning that she

631
00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:08.840
is not appropriate within certain situations at certain times, but

632
00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:11.119
she doesn't care and she'll come out. So when I

633
00:50:11.159 --> 00:50:13.639
get to talk to her, get to know her, and

634
00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:16.239
I get to take care of her and heal her

635
00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:19.559
and thank her and respect her. She's not going to

636
00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:22.400
come out. At those times, she may poke her head

637
00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:25.840
and I will be like, oh my goodness, this is

638
00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:27.800
one of those times that I would have reacted. But

639
00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:30.559
I actually understand why I reacted the way that I

640
00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:34.360
did and know that you're not trying to cause distance

641
00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:37.679
between us. You're just trying to understand something like that.

642
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:38.079
You know.

643
00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:44.960
Okay, Now, can somebody use creativity to work through shadow work?

644
00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:51.039
Because I'm a writer, my wife's an artist, she's a potter.

645
00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:54.480
And then Eric, who wasn't able to join us, is

646
00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:58.039
also a writer and he does a lot of cinematography work.

647
00:50:58.320 --> 00:51:00.760
So can you use that as a way for shadow work?

648
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:05.360
I would say that I could write a whole book

649
00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:12.760
on using creativity is the most effective towards shadow work.

650
00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:19.400
The reason why I say that is because I go

651
00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:25.159
back to the model of the brain, and you've got

652
00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:30.320
the left hemisphere, Oh sorry, the left hemisphere, which is logic,

653
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:36.679
linear thinking. It understands English, we're speaking English. The right

654
00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:43.639
hemisphere creative. It understands dreams. It doesn't understand language. It

655
00:51:43.719 --> 00:51:47.960
doesn't understand space and time. It understands its own version

656
00:51:48.280 --> 00:51:51.920
of space and time because it understands dream is not linear.

657
00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:58.000
It's nonlinear, and I think that the shadow, a lot

658
00:51:58.039 --> 00:52:03.000
of it exists in that right hemisphere or can be

659
00:52:03.079 --> 00:52:11.519
brought out in a place of comfort. So when I

660
00:52:11.679 --> 00:52:17.199
experienced my shadow being angry outside of space and time,

661
00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:23.679
my left hemisphere, my linear English speaking logical mind is like,

662
00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:29.679
I suck because I did it again? Did I eat right?

663
00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:32.800
Did I like not take my vitamins? Was I in

664
00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:38.559
the right headspace? I just snapped again. But my left,

665
00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:45.159
my right hemisphere, my creative side would go, oh, well,

666
00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:50.360
that's you know, wabi sabby. Wabi sabbi is basically an

667
00:52:50.519 --> 00:52:56.119
Asian term of the beauty of a crack in a pottery.

668
00:52:56.239 --> 00:52:58.719
So I kind of threw that in four your wife,

669
00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:02.559
you know, just put the gold in there and it's

670
00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:06.400
more beautiful. So I think that for a creative person,

671
00:53:07.039 --> 00:53:12.440
shadow work is a lot easier. I really do. And

672
00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:16.760
I think that the more creative that you get with

673
00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:21.480
like even just drawing cartoons around what happened to granddaughter

674
00:53:21.559 --> 00:53:24.119
Crow in the alley when she was seventeen and what

675
00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:28.880
that looked like, then my mind would be able to go, oh,

676
00:53:29.000 --> 00:53:32.039
now I get it. Like, so I think that creativity

677
00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:38.719
actually is like I don't know the backstage passed to

678
00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:42.840
show to work. Okay, point that I just said it

679
00:53:42.880 --> 00:53:43.280
coined that.

680
00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:50.599
We'll trademarket after the show. So I got two more

681
00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:51.320
questions for you.

682
00:53:51.719 --> 00:53:52.119
Got it?

683
00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:57.800
First? One is what dreams or symbols tend to surface

684
00:53:57.840 --> 00:54:01.920
when people are starting to begin deep shadow work.

685
00:54:02.239 --> 00:54:11.159
Ooh, well, gosh, I I would expect that it will.

686
00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:15.360
Oh gosh, I haven't thought about this. So I'll give

687
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:18.559
you an answer, and then I'll think about it some

688
00:54:18.599 --> 00:54:21.599
more and then give you another answer. On the ethers,

689
00:54:21.960 --> 00:54:33.599
all right. You might dream about I wish I understood

690
00:54:33.599 --> 00:54:38.159
myself more. You may dream about being in a place

691
00:54:38.360 --> 00:54:42.840
that is unfamiliar. You may dream about it's got to

692
00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:46.000
be this connection. It's got to be a symbol or

693
00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:51.679
a dream of I lost a friend. I want to

694
00:54:51.679 --> 00:54:56.280
get to know my friend. My old friend is gone.

695
00:54:56.599 --> 00:55:02.000
I want to know myself. I am having an ego death.

696
00:55:02.679 --> 00:55:06.400
I am struggling with who I am. There's a lot

697
00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:11.000
of I am questions because an aspect of I am,

698
00:55:11.559 --> 00:55:15.639
you are you is coming back to you, and so

699
00:55:15.880 --> 00:55:24.239
however your psyche translates I miss my friend, it will

700
00:55:24.280 --> 00:55:29.880
be there. I think that if the shadow is like

701
00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:34.639
drilled into you from maybe a dogma. You may have

702
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very spooky dreams of the devil trying to get you

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or something trying to take you, when really what's going

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on is information is trying to get there, and you know,

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it's kind of like you might get scared of something.

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So if you approach it, if you approach it from

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a scientific way, like why is it thing so afraid?

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And why is it chasing me? And stop thinking like

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a little kid that it wants to destroy me, and

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go turn around and look at your monsters and go

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what so I don't I don't know. That's I'll respond

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right now.

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Well, yeah, I if you think of something and you

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email it to me, I'll make sure I put it

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out on the socials for a better answer.

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I love it all right.

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Last question, and it's the same thing we ask everybody where.

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Can everybody find you? The book? The MIC's all yours.

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Oh thank you so much. If if you dug this

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and you want to know more about who I am

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and what I do, or if you have questions for me,

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all you got to do is Granddaughter Crow think, Granddaughter

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Crow and www dot granddaughter Crow dot com, YouTube, Granddaughter

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Crow Social, Granddaughter Crow. It's such an odd name that

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I'll be the one, and I really am. I really

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love to engage with people, so, like I said at

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the beginning of or Not, I'm probably in the middle

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of the show. If you do have a book club

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and you are Paratruther Paratruther, you can just email me

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d R. Joy Doctor Joy. Oh my god, I forgot

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I have a doctorate. Forgot about that. I actually a

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doctorate in leadership and all that. But Dr Joy at

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Granddaughtercrow dot com and just let me know. Hey, me

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and my partner have been going through your book. We've

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read it. We have some questions one hour free Zoom.

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All you have to say is I'm a Paratruther or

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a book club.

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Well, I'll make sure to put that in our show

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notes as well so people can know to give us

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a shout out.

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I love it.

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Thank you so much for being on. I've learned so

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much and I'm planning on working through this book because

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I feel it's something that both me and my wife

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need to do and do together and separately. So I

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appreciate you being on. And you know, as soon as

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we have a link for you, we'll get it out.

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But I will let you go.

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Thank you so much, Justin, and thank you to everybody

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who's listening. Love.

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Yeah, all right, you have a good night you too.

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All right, folks. That was granddaughter Crow, author of Shamanism

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and Your Shadow. Check it out. It's an amazing book

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and I'm looking forward to working through it. Next week

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Eric will be back and we'll be discussing Friday the

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thirteenth and all other types of different things that people

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are afraid of that maybe aren't necessarily things that should be.

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But until next week, make sure you like, share, subscribe

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wherever you listen. This again has been a pre recorded

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show on one oh seven point seven FM, New Orleans

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and the United Public Radio Network until next week, where

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you'll find us the same time, same channel. My name

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is Justin. Talk to you next time.
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Granddaughter Crow is a medicine woman, public speaker, teacher, intuitive reader, and author of Wisdom of the Natural World. Descended from a long line of spiritual leaders, she is an empath, medium, and member of the Navajo Nation. She was voted Woman of the Year in 2015 by the National Association of Professional Women (NAPW). For more, visit GranddaughterCrow.com