The Most Common Questions About The Paranormal w/Kat Ward

0:03 Welcome. Well, well do Para Truth Truth. How's it going Para Truthers. Welcome to a brand new episode of Paratruth Reborn. My name is Justin and I'm Eric. Today we are joined by Catward from Paranormal Heart to answer and discuss the most common questions of the.

0:52 Paranormal posed by you. Kat. Welcome to Part Truth Reborn Me Thank you. So much again? Yeah, what do you mean? It's like again? I was supposed to be that was exciting. That the pitch is, you know, a high pitch. I didn't hear that. It's always great to talk to you guys. We always have so much fun. Eric. You know she's not good at social cues. Gee, I forgot good? What getting old? You know? I just don't catch catch onto things anymore? Oh man? So Kat, how's it been? Where's life? Everything?

1:36 Show everything? How's it playing with Sanada? With the world with Canada? I don't know, it's just we're anyways? Good good? Really? All right? Well this is technically our Thanksgiving episode only because there's really not anything that you can talk about for Thanksgiving that is spooky and weird. We we covered gobble Squatch years ago, but that is just way out there of a myth, and it's not even there's not even a lot of information on it. So it's like a two minute story. And then right you find something to talk about. There is the haunting of the Turkey dinner after you, after the fact, after you ate it and everyone's on the couch wishing they died.

2:24 You have all the ghost turkeys running around with your heads missing. And there's only so many times we can talk about the missing colony of Rowano do so. Oh, So, we've got a list of questions. It sounds like, Cat, you've got a list of questions that you came up with. I think we're gonna start with a general one and what we can kind of go back and forth with some of the ones you got too, Cat, But sure one and I know everybody's in this situation's answer to this, But are ghosts real?

3:09 I mean, obviously we can't say for sure, Like we still can't say one hundred percent. There's evidence that seems to support that there are ghosts, but we can't scientifically prove it because we can't reenact some of those results. You know, we can't get a person or you know, a spirit in this case, to say the same thing over and over, or to necessarily do the same movements or make the door move, et cetera, et cetera. So a lot of it is really just based on speculation still despite hearing voices, despite seeing images, and so I think that's it's one of those things where it's really like we can say, yes, if you bleed in spirits, that maybe they do exist, but we can't literally, scientifically prove that this indeed is a ghost because there are so many aspects to the paranormal that can be logically disproved or at least assumed to be something other than paranormal itself. Yeah, I mean that's fair enough.

4:14 And on top of that, if there are other entities out there, again you can't prove it. But is that what's going on too, where it's these things mimicking what a ghost would be and it's not a dead person, it's a an entity of some kind, right. Go ahead, no, no, no, you. Thank you sir. I'm a huge believer, but I'm a huge skeptic too, So just because something goes bump in the night, I'm not going to take it as it's a ghost. I want to find out why what's going on behind the scenes? Is it EMF is it something else?

5:00 Maybe the ghost happen to get Maybe it's like a bat signal, you know, with ems, the ghost just come to it. We don't really know right. Right, and we can. I mean, there's argument that a lot of it can be mental, that these things manifest within our minds and we think their spirits. But of course that gets disproven when we start to catch things on video or in photographs or on audio, and that's like just a whole different thing altogether, because again we can't recreate a lot of those things. We can't test it multful times, like yeah, you can get a similar sounding voice that says different words, you can't replicate the exact EVP for example. I will say that there I feel like there is kind of a split. You know, there are people who believe in ghosts, there are people who don't believe, and then there are people who believe in ghosts, and then what we now deem as entities.

5:54 These could be demons or nature spirits, elementals, any other you know, theay, et cetera, et cetera. Some will say that, especially in the Christian aspect, you know, someoneill say that demons simply mislead humanity in this case by pretending to be a once living person and therefore deceiving us in the believing ghosts surreal. You know, I will say like, because I've done a lot of research on this within Bible context as well, and there's a lot of things within the Bible that says like or quite a few three that says like, to be out of the body is to be in the prisons of God. The idea that is, once you die, your spirit is just it's tethered and you go straight to God. Another says like, if you know, to be out of the body is to be in judgment. So assume you die, you're being judged and you go onto one place or the other. Right, you know, someone say heaven hell or heaven purgatory. Again, it depends on your translation of the scriptures of what a translation you're using. So with that, like a lot of people say, well, ghosts don't exist, because it says that there are deceiving spirits. It says that to die, your spirits goes straight to God, so you can't be wondering, irb.

7:08 But at the same time, there is a very simple passage in which Jesus walks in water. Everybody knows most everybody knows a story, and Peter and the other disciples get scared and they say it's a ghost. It's a ghost, and Jesus says, I am not a ghost. Look at me. I have flesh and I can eat. What I notice in that particular passage, though, is he doesn't rebuke the disciples and saying no, no, there's no such thing as ghosts, you know. He just says, I'm not a ghost. I am a person, you know. And I find that really intriguing because if it was important for us to know that ghosts don't exists in human form, in would then he would we have possibly, I would think, rebuke them in that moment and say no, that's a false belief. Yeah, so you know, And again it's one of those things where it's not important by any means, you know, in terms of scriptures whether or not they exist or don't exist, or if they're here on Earth or other you know, elsewhere.

8:08 But I think it's interesting none the less, and at least provides some possibility that maybe there is for some reason human spirits on earth. Yeah, I mean, by him not saying ghosts don't exist. Did he just admit that they do? I mean, we can speculate. Right, what's a question that you've heard a lot. Kat Why do they keep coming back? We were on an investigation once where there was one or two other teams that were there and everything was fine, and all of a sudden, they're contacting another team because they came back, and they just didn't understand why. And like Katie Turner, I'm going to take a page out of her book.

8:56 She would explain that when you cleanse your area, it's like sweeping your floors. Your floors are clean, you go out, you come back, You're bringing more dirt, so you have to keep sweeping in order to keep the dirt out, you know. So a lot of there was this one case in particular where the client actually wanted them to keep coming. She liked the attention, but her children, her babies, were being terrorized. So I had to tell her, use your mom voice, and you have to tell them this isn't their home anymore. You know, you have to leave. This is my place. And we always keep in contact with guests of not guests, clients afterwards, and yeah, we we even showed them how to keep cleansing their house.

9:45 And this was several years ago and we haven't heard from them since, so that's a good thing. Yeah. Yeah, you know, you know you're intent, you want them back, so they're like, oh, open house. Well yeah, and I agree. I think there could be in some case intent and I've admitted that I've struggled with that in the past as well. Years ago where you know, I went through a very dark moment in my life, three months of worth than which there was a demonic activity that oppressed me on the regular and even once that was gone, and I was thankful it was gone because it was really scary. You know. There were moments where I'd be laying in bed and almost kind of missing it, missing like that fear factor that dread that like what's going to happen? You know, there's something that just is like it's the adrenaline going, you know, and I think in those moments it draws these spirits back something else, so that I wanted to actually bring up because you you know, you're saying that these spirits, when they were cast out, it would come back. It would seem well, it's funny that you would have to keep cleansing, right, because actually the Bible also touches on that.

10:52 Jesus actually says in Matthew twelve forty three, when in the pure spirit comes out of a person, it goes through aird's or places seeking rest and does not find it, then it says, I'll return to the house I left, and when it rives, it finds it unoccupied, swept clean and put in order. So then it goes and finds seven more spirits, more will than itself, and resides there again. And the idea here is, yes, you want to keep that space constantly clean, but it's important if you don't want the spirit to come back that you fill that space with something good. And of course, biblically we're talking about with the Holy Spirit, right, you want to fill it with God. And you know, I know, we talked to a lot of people who've gone through something similar and they fill their space with positive energy light. They try to remove anything that can be negative in their life, whether it's music or movies or individuals. So it's very important that if a spirit keeps coming back, you need to take a moment and check to see what you're filling that and be swept up space with because if it's with nothing, that spirit will continuously come back, find it clean and find a better place to rest.

12:04 Kind of like mopping your floors are just water and not cleaners. Yeah, yeah, like mocking with dirty water. Right, It's like you sweep and sweep and sweet, but you don't pick up the dirt and throw it out. It's just gonna get tracked her out again. I just want to interrupt you for a second, say, hi, Hidi, I just noticed her in the chat. Yeah, I just love that lady oh in mish, Hello, get a what's some other questions that you've come. Across, Eric, Yeah, so you know, again kind of sticking I think with the whole I guess more so on the spirit side. But why are some people more sensitive to the paramimmal than others? Right? And I think that's a valid question because we hear that a lot, especially on our show and especially through like chat or emails, where people are often concerned with especially when they're new to this, you know, they want to understand why they experience the paranormal more than what there are other people do, Like why did I experience this as I did while I was living in the house with five or four other people and none of them experienced what I did, right, And that really comes down to a number of different factors.

13:21 I mean, this could be genetic in which is passed down through birth and you have kind of this third eye that is opened and you can recognize and see the paranormal realm to some extent, or at least it's easier to invite it in. It could also be really in regard to your circumstances. If you're going through difficult time, especially something that's very derivative of being dark or negative or just difficult, you know, you can draw those type of spirits, and not just negative spirits, but just any kind of spirits can be drawn in because when a negative spirit attaches to a darker energy or negative energy, it will naturally become a beacon to other spirits as well. At least that's you know, based on the science that is within the paranormal. You know, that's the idea, that's what we believe happens anyway, based on what evidence we do have.

14:13 I like saying, oh, go ahead. No, I was just agreeing, yeah, okay. Yeah, I like saying, it's like some people have really good eyesight and don't need glasses. Other people have weaker eyesight and need glasses. Kind of like that with some people are you could go for like for myself and if when I go for a walk, stray cats who come up to me, uh, just wild animals are drawn to me for whatever reason. But other people they run away, you know, or you just don't see them at all. So I think it's something like that with spirits, ghosts as well. See I would say, like you have to open yourself up to the paranormal, and that's why some people are more sensitive than others Ouiji boards doing what we do with paranormal investigations, I opened myself up to mediumship. You really have to get out of that mindset. Basically being an adult. As kids, we are closer to the other side for two reasons. One we still have our imaginations and think that anything is possible, and two we are closer to just coming into this world. So I think that there's multiple factors. But I think that the people that aren't sensitive to the paranormal are the ones that are, like either they're completely skeptic and have closed themselves off completely,

15:46 or just there's way more things going on in their lives than noticing the knocking on the closet door and there's nobody behind that type of thing. Something that. I found this question kind of humorous and it really is a good one. Though, why do you go swear clothes? And I mean it's humorous, but it's all It also brings up a valid point. You know, if you're seeing a ghost, and I mean obviously you're not gonna see them naked, You're gonna see them as they were, and they would be noticing that they didn't have clothes on.

16:35 Some of them might have been in the in their birthday suits when they will Yeah, I was like, I don't want to see that. Well now see, here's the thing though, like I think it's I think it highly depends. Now we do seem, for whatever reason, to see these ghosts wearing clothes, but when you consider the spirit, like a person's spirit isn't wearing clothes. In fact, like scriptually we're talking about a spirit basically has no gender. They all spirits are more or less the same. So if we really are seeing a spirit or a ghost, technically it should be naked or at least have very little form in terms of what it's wearing right, So the reason why we're seeing ghosts wearing clothes is often because it's like being more of a residual type ponting or an echo in time, something that replays all and over, rather than a intelligent spirit that happens if we wearing clothes and talking to us, you know, or doing whatever it's doing, and that that we capture within our evidence. At least that's where I see it. That's what I think it is most promise to mean or makes most sense. I think a lot of this is indeed residual and just echoes, and the ones that do seem intelligent very well could be. They could be misleading, they could be deceptive. But again, you know, this is something I don't have a real answer to. No, I don't have evidence to prove from her the other So maybe there's some you know, some mystical misunderstanding on

18:11 my part that would prove otherwise that a spirit would wear clothes for some reason or another. So I can't imagine like, if I'm a ghost, I'm going to have a ghost closet and I could just go in and pick my wardrobe out right, Like it don't make sense. Oh if only. Break out of the matrix and just load back in into whatever you want to wear. Right, Kat, what's another one that you can think of that you've heard a lot? Oh, this is one that I have and yet to be able to answer. But Rob Guttro actually explained it. And I can't remember what his answer was. But I get a lot of people asking why don't we see dinosaur ghosts, and I'm like, well, maybe we have of maybe the sometimes you hear loud crashing, maybe that's the walking.

19:04 I don't know, but Rob Gutro had a really good answer, and I can't remember what it was. But that is a question that I'm asked a lot. That, Yeah, you know, the only way I can actually the way that I would answer that earlier, at least for myself, the through biblical perspective. And it's dependent on how you view creation because there are two types of people. There are people who claim that creation is one creation and dinosaurs lived along with humanity, and there is some archaeological evidence that seems to prove that there were dinosaur footprints and human footprints together coming from the same period of time. But then there's other theorists who claim that in the beginning the earth was dark, void, and spirit of God hovered over the depth of the water, right and then all of a sudden God spoken in his creation.

19:55 And so there is this gap theory that between the time that the earth was dark and and the time between the spirit of God hovering over the waters, something happened prior, like within there. And in this case it's the idea that dinosaurs existed, were destroyed, and then humans and all these other animals that we have today were suddenly created or you know if obviously in my mind created whoever wants to believe in evolution, we won't get into that. I'll go on first. I almost use that word, but I stopped just in case. You know how I feel about evolution. But well, we've also heard those trumpets, you know, out in the air sometimes that you can't explain, and there's multiple things, but maybe that's a t rex roar or you know like that, it could be.

20:45 But here's the thing, is what I'm saying is, would we see the creation within Genesis, We see that God breathed his spirit within all of creation, and if dinosaurs pre existed the creation that's talked about in the Bible, therefore they existed prior to that gap. Maybe he didn't breathe his spirit into them, and if they had no spirit to give up when they died, they were just physical beings with no ghost and that's why we don't see any dinosaur ghosts. Hmmm. I'd be very interested to hear other faiths chime in what to answer the same question. You know, do they believe the same thing as Christianity just with their with their faith? So if anyone wants to chime in, send Eric all the emails.

21:33 Yeah, no, please, I happen to every single word at all. Yeah, I'm really curious to see what other faiths say. That was hmm, well then thanks, ye. Who wait, what what's the other one for you? Oh well, we kind of already answered this one, which was what's the difference between residual and intelligent hunting? And I'll just make that real quick here. Vidual haunting is basically an echo and time time stamping which a spirit or haunting just happens with heavidly, over and over or again. Some examples, is like a gunshot which maybe rings out at the same time every night. And intelligent haunting is one in which there are spirits that can intelligently react and interact with individuals within the home. Uh. Yeah, I think that's pretty simple and we'll clear that out. Can somebody this one's interesting because I've I've heard mixed reviews on this one in terms of answers. But can someone unknowingly invite a demon in? And I don't know if this question is like very general and like invite a demon into a person, a space, things like that, or.

22:50 The way I think it is, just it within your environment and at you. Okay, that's fair, you know, and yeah, I you know, I it. I stumble over this one because it's like it's a hard one to answer, you know. Uh, But in reality, at least in my experience, I think, yes, it is certainly possible to onnoying the invite demon in. Demons are the most intelligent and clever beings in the spirit world that walk this. Earth, and the predate humanity, so. By a lot, you know, there's this there's this belief that even that basically Satan knows every human being better than they know themselves, is because they're constantly watching, they're constantly learning, they're constantly seeing all the little mannerisms that we don't even recognize in our own self right when we're in error. And so if there is a possibility for demonic entity entity to walk into your life, it may use whatever opportunity it can. This could be well as simple as somebody and just from experience, I know people who've watched the whole movie. They got scared and suddenly there's something, you know, in their house and it's a dark something. Right, Whether or not it's the it's demonic, we can't. I cannot really say. But it was a dark spirit, right, a dark entity. If you're playing with wiki boards or doing any sort of seances, you don't know what you're doing, you don't know how to properly

24:21 open or closed doors things like that, you can potentially invite a demon in. So yeah, it is highly possible or at least say hi. But it is very possible that you can indeed invite the demonic entety in. So it's important to protect yourself. It's important to surround yourself with light and to pray constantly for protection because demons will take the opportunity when they see it. But I don't crack that they see. Yeah, but I do want to state that it's probably like if a demonic entity does enter your space, it's probably not going to let you know. Like, this is another thinite that demons are very good at. It's hiding themselves.

25:01 They do everything behind the scenes. They don't want you to obey exists, and I think the main reason is because if you know, you realize that, hey, demons exist and demon you know, you kind of wet that with devil and if devil exists, God exists, so on, so over that God exists. Well, now you've got power over this demon, right, and they don't want you to know that. They don't want to believe those things. They want you to constantly live in the negative life that you might be living a feed off of that. So yeah, that's the long way to answer, as I always do for something that's as simple as yes, seeing as possible, Well, I mean, I'll take it one step further. You've already mentioned it already about dark and these, but any entity or spirit, even ghosts, if you are if you just believe, let's just put it that way, in something, Yeah, you can unknowingly invite it into your space.

26:01 I mean, we've talked about. It before with with slender Man, and it being a maybe a Tulpa type situation, not necessarily a spirit or a spirit attaching itself to an idea of something you're scared of and it becoming real quote unquote real in your space. Yeah. So I agree with you one hundred percent, but I think it goes once up further than just demonic or demon or dark entities. It's any entity. Yeah. I have to say though that I've known I know an archbishop and a sister who used to do investigations and clearings on a regular basis. They're retired from that part. But thankfully they told me that these don't happen as often as everyone thinks. And I was so happy when they said that. Yeah, there is That is another question, you know, how often does it I actually happened?

27:00 Yeah, And that's that. And that's another thing that is really open to against speculation because we don't have efficient proof, especially if we're talking about like there are potentially demons deceiving people as acting as cat there's a dark entity that's fun screen. You knew it about it, Eric, I just knew it. Oh, I lost my train. I thought, now, dude, Oh, if there's so, if there's the amount of spirits that are trying to deceive people and they're appearing as your deceased loving grandmother, right or something like that. There they would basically just just trying to pull you away from maybe reaching out to God, which for you know, for for the light. But in those cases that we we can't discern that easily because if it very much seems like it's our grandmother, but it's truly a demon, we can't prove that, not unless that demon's willing to give itself up, you know. Yeah.

28:04 Well, and that answer that question we had of how can you tell a difference between a ghost and demon? And the truth of the matter is you really can't. No, not really. But I have to say that if if Grandma came back and told you to hurt yourself and others, probably not. Well. And demon, dark Kennedy, whatever you want to call it, they're they're gonna build up politician too, I mean dark Nnedy. Yeah, so I mean yeah, Like, I don't think a demon's going to come out right out and say, hey, go kill yourself. It's going to make you believe, hey, this is Grandma.

28:47 We want you, yes, you know, we want you back on, We want you on this side, we want to love you and be with you. Please go jump off of a bridge and be with us forever type of a thing. And that's personal. I don't believe. I'm not quoting scripture or anything like that. I agree with you. Yeah. Next one that I I already and I'm thinking about. My answer to this is can anyone develop psychic abilities? And before we get to that, I'm so sorry I missed just said grandma might hold grudges? There is that too?

29:29 Is that sorry? I had to mention that. Go ahead. Well, I'm so glad the cat has taken over a paratru three born now too, and we don't even have a show anymore? Is I think? Balked out Eric, I'll be quiet. I'll be just sa hold on, wait, who's hosting this? Nah? You too? Kick and see. Except But I believe that there's a twofold to that question, and that is I believe everybody can be born with the stability, but over time, if you're not developing it, then it's gonna kind of wither and decay, just like a limb that you've not used in years because of an injury or something. So I think there's twofold there.

30:20 But yes, I think everybody can develop it. It's one of those things that sometimes is like do you really want to open that door? Though? Because I can tell you right now I didn't expect what I was getting into when I opened myself up. I'm thankful I did. I don't regret it. But I was excited to do this type of stuff and didn't think. About the repercussions. Yeah, okay, but either of you can can argue that fact. Just whyant.

31:04 Well too, right? You should. Go ahead help here to say something. Oh no, no, I just said that I have nothing. No, I go okay. Miss has a very good question here. If we follow a life path, it's possible or I guess not question per se, but more of a statement, we arrange for these things to happen. Question mark it. That's a good possibility. I mean there are those that say we choose these paths that were on well before we incarnate here too.

31:51 You know, I think you can also be in some cases directed on a certain path. Uh. You know, as I strongly believe in free will, we all have the opportunity to change paths and choose what past we want to take. But I do you think that there are guiding spirits, both good and bad that can lead us on pass if we're susceptible to it. So that's very important because if we follow a life path, that's like, what is life path? And how do you know it's the right life path? And the truth is you don't. You never know until the end of the road. So the best thing you can do is pray over it, meditate on it, and trust your instinct whether or not what you're doing is right or wrong, and whether or not it's the path that is meant to bring your best to life.

32:44 Right, Kat, What's another one? What are signs that a place is haunted? Most classic signs are sudden changes in temperature, whether it's cold or hot. That's one of the classic ones for sure. I mean, there's so so much that goes into that question. Yeah, I know. Yeah. I was gonna keep it simple and just say when there's a ghost like, wait aboute who whoa whoa? Wait, woa whoa whoa who A simple answer from Eric's skirt back.

33:26 It's rare. Who are you? I scorned you? So now he's like, oh, maybe I should back off. Just when you. Mentioned his full name, reminds me of I had you guys on the show many years ago, and for the longest time he just went by Eric with a K, and I actually introduced him with his last name. He goes, well, I guess everybody knows my last name now, and I'm like, there is I am so sorry. There was a time where I keep myself from everything else, like the show. Had to mess that up. Ever since, it's been Eric's tarback my full name, so thank you for that. Yeah, it's I mean, it works though, because now you just I mean, so my name is like, uh, rather unique, my last name in particular, so you can easily just throw my name in Google and you get all kinds of stuff on me, my career. The podcast past, well most some some of the past history, not the not the secret you know, personal stuff, secret societies.

34:39 We got another comment from the chat here from Heidi, and it's saying I was thinking about the soul contracts, but I never thought of times progression, all the advances made throughout time. But then the soul knows all, and it's not so. I don't think the soul knows all. I think we're given choices on what we want to learn. In this life if you believe in reincarnation, because if you believe in reincarnation, you're you're not going to learn all the lessons all in one go. If you do, you had a pretty hard frickin' life. But I think it's more so God that a higher power, higher consciousness is saying, hey, look, you've got all of these choices, which one you want to learn this time?

35:40 Not that we as a soul know at all, it's it's being given to us, right and see, and yes, if you believe in reincarnation, then yes, absolutely that that makes the sense, and that goes right along with the teachings of the incarnation. On the flip side, if we're talking about you know, you have one life, you live that one life, and then it's done here on earth, well then you have to start considering purpose. It's not so much to gain new knowledge and raise yourself higher on each life, but instead find the purpose that God had cast you with prior to coming to earth. There's a belief that you know, prior to coming into our bodies. When we're born, we are created as a spirit elsewhere in heaven or you know, wherever, and then we are sent like here's a task. This is what I want you to do. You come to earth and you got to figure out what that task is. And there's a purpose, and you fulfill that purpose. Some people fulfill it, some people don't. But the point is like, you come here, you live, You live and learn life's experiences, you grow, you help other individuals during the same time that you're here, and then when you die, you go to heaven and you basically receive all knowledge of everything and wisdom and you learn it all. And then you look back on your life and say, you know what, I didn't learn this during that moment in my life, or you know what, I'm glad I've earned that because this happened. So I think it's all about growth regardless.

37:13 Could be as simple as hey, I didn't get a chance to try that pizza. I want to go back. See. Well, here's the thing though, too, Like if you consider, like if reincarnation is real, then why are the dots should not once you die that spirit is bringcarnated into another body, there should be no spirits on earth. Well, that goes into the one question we had in here is what's the difference between a ghost and a spirit? And what I've always been told is ghost is a person that decided to stay here on this side of the veil because they were attached to something or they they felt they needed to do something more before they left where spirit has already passed to the other side.

38:02 And that's where the reincarnation comes at. Okay, well that makes sense because Yeah, the way that I always thought is the ghosts are the ones who haven't crossed over. Spirits have crossed over, but for whatever reason, they can come back for. A visit, right, And I've heard that. In a nutshell. Yeah, I've always just seen them as interchangeable and there are Yeah, I mean there are people that use it interchangeably as well. Yeah, Eric, what's another one you have? Oh goodness, where do you want to go? You got so many questions? Yeah? Uh, well we got I know.

38:43 I'm in here from Milsh pizza with pineapple. Yes, I agree, yummyes, pineapple and ham yes, or Canadian bacon, whichever you prefer. Honestly, I love pineapple and pizza. I used to hate it, but you know, I like pineapple and pizza way more than I like orange juice of pizza, because that's just wrong. It's like you're eating puke. Literally, it's disgusting. The combination of the the acid and the sauce and the acid in flavor of the orange juice is not a good combination.

39:25 The one combination I come to love as of late is green olives and pineapple. I don't like green olives, black olives. Green oles tastes rancid to me. Well, but it as a vegetarian that green olive has that salty like the ham you anymore? Okay, well, we're going to remove her from the Oh god, she's the ghost. I think I just rewhaled our train. I'm sorry, Oh I did by mentioning the pizza.

40:09 Yeah. So this one's kind of more of a two part question, so we got to answer them both, I think and not at the same time, but I think back to back. So the first question is is witchcraft evil or understood? Now, again, it's going to depend on your whole belief system. You know, your faith, and just how you grew up. Ultimately, I will say, as with any faith, in any practice, it can be used for evil, but it doesn't mean it's inherently evil. So with that said, witchcraft is one of those things which can certainly be misunderstood by people who simply think it's straight up evil, but it isn't necessarily evil. It can be used for good there and the majority of people who who do witchcraft to create spells are usually doing it in a positive manner, a way to help protect themselves and loved ones, to create you know, good energy and help people heal.

41:15 That's not always the case, and so it's very situational. But again it's it does come down to your BUE system and your convention. You know. Does that mean if if you beleive that witchcraft is evil, you should go around cutting people who practice witchcraft down and telling them the evil and you despising them and spitting on it. No, absolutely not, that's just in humane. Right as a human being. We all have the free will to do what we wish within I mean, I can't say within reason. We all do have fy will to do what we wish, but their error consequences obviously, you know. So you know, yeah, I want to slap that person who is you know, doing this or whatever at the store, But that's not that doesn't always come out very well right rested for doing that.

42:02 I think that it's okay to do murder for right every reason. Yeah, it's also uh with witchcraft, there's uh whatever you I'm going to paraphrase here because I can't remember exactly how it goes, but whatever you do, yes, the real of three. Whatever you do is going to come back to the three times, whether it's good or bad. When I started studying Wika, that was the first thing that I read, and it was also in the movie The Craft, So there's that kind of reinforcement too. But yeah, I agree with that that it witchcraft isn't inherently evil.

42:48 It's what you do with it that makes it evil. If you're like firearms the person wielding it. Yes, yeah, So. One question, or we'll make this a three parter because it's about cryptids and we're kind of running out of time here. Can't cryptids be explained just by misidentification? Are cryptids just animals we thought were extinct? And could these creatures be interdimensional beings? I will say that yes to all handy. Come on, I feel we jump to interdimensional beings way too much now in this in this day and age in the paranormal to explain it because we can't find bodies or whatever, not saying that some or all of these creatures might not necessarily have that ability.

43:50 But I think I think we're generalizing way too much now and there's got to be a better explanation. But it can be miss identification if you're afraid in the middle of the woods. I mean, if you're a hunter, you've been in the woods all your life, obviously you're gonna know what you're seeing. But if you're just a hiker, you don't come across wildlife that often. Coming across a bear on its hind legs, you can't see it from the front, you're seeing it from the back. It sounds pretty tall, So yeah, your mind would create something that isn't necessarily there.

44:32 Well, you know, and not to mention, you know, for people who aren't used to seeing the bears, you might see it and immediately become afraid, and your mind suddenly starts just like it's all over blaze, what do I do? You know, miss little details and you start to think was that a bear? Was that something else? Was it bigfoot? And then all of a sudden you're you know, one of those people in the newspaper I saw a bigfoot, And you become those people, right it was a bit, but. Well, I mean, yeah, I remember a few years ago, Eric, you had sent me a video, uh CCTV footage someplace in South America. I think it was. People thought it was a were wolf, but I think it was it turned out to be a wolf with mange or no, what's that wolf that has a Maine?

45:26 Wolf with the main? Are you talking about a lion? That's a no? No, no, I know what a lie it is, thank you. It's one of the one of the two. I can't remember if it was a wolf with mange or if it was a wolf that no, I can't remember what it's called. Well, usually the chupakaba is explained as a wolf or a canine of some kind with me, but a Maine I don't know. I can't. I'm trying to think of which one it was. Was it the was it the photo or CCTV it was It wasn't a video, it was an actual photo.

46:07 But was it the one that he was on its hind legs or yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't remember what they officially announced that as it was. I mean, it definitely looked like what you would typically think of werewolf looks like for sure, a dog man standing on his hind legs. Uh, and it had the same kind of stride. And there were a number of reports the following weeks claiming that in this little township they were seeing this thing and the dogs just start barking. Uh. But I don't recall if they ever did find a like it they ended up finding how exactly what that creature was, or if it was even just you know, fake, I can't remember. That was a while ago. Here's a question from Heidi.

47:03 Has anyone heard of any experiences with big egyptsum Egyptian looking cats. I mean, I've heard of like big cat sightings where they shouldn't be like the black the black panther type sightings, But I've never heard of Egyptian looking cats. Have I that's intriguing. You guys all know that I love ancient Egypt and I even have a bunch of tattoos. So are you talking about best debt, which is the cat goddess? Heidi? That I have to say that would be cool to see from a safe distance, of course. Right, But yeah, I'm not HEII clarify that one for us any others cat. We're getting close to the end, so I want to get as many.

47:55 As we can. There is one, but it's going to be a long explanation afterwards, so I'm not even going to mention it. Let's talk about that after we wrap later. Yeah, period, because there's papers that people wrote and just yeah, I'm not going to go down that. I'm not going to go down that rabbit hole. That's where that's fair. Uh, here's the one that I think we can just kind of brush over real quick. And it kind of goes back to the whole witchcraft magic type in how do you And this is actually a conversation I had with a friend of mine earlier. This it just came to wow, O, Kat, you're not my friend. You don't consider yourself. I'm your sister.

48:36 Okay, I see, Oh but this this So this conversation came up between my friend and I and it sparked and I thought in my mind and it took me like a day to kind of process it and consider it. But how do you know when someone is working bad energy against you versus whether a nametive spirit or entity is working against you individually as itself. So there's this idea like practicing, which is or people who create spells to negatively impact a person's life, and doesn't mean like trying to cause pain and hurt and like hurt in the sense of like death and stuff, right, But it could be some illness or putting some stress on the business or making them lose clients, things like that.

49:25 You didn't get that job you really wanted things right that, Yeah. And so you know, there there are two aspects of this depending on the circle that you live in. Right, there could be individuals who are working against you, creating spells and doing en energy work to basically to off put your life right. But there's also this possibility of spirits or entities who are working against you in order to either keep you off a certain path or because they're enjoying the negative energy that you're experiencing continuously feeding off of it, and so they manipulate things to help keep you in this kind of rough state. So how do you know the difference between those two things though?

50:09 And I think the biggest thing that you can do and truthfully is simply prayer meditation, because there's not really anybody you're going to ask. You know, there's people who are working against you. You're not going to come right out and say yeah, I'm working against you. And if there's a spirit working against you, it's also not going to come right out and say yeah, I'm working against you. Right, So it just comes down to prayer, meditation, use your instinct, try to clarify the things that are happening in their life, and then meditate on those things. Why is it happening, what are the possibilities, What does your friends circle look like when it did it start? What were the events during when that started? Things like that that'll help guide you to the answer that you're looking for in this sense. And I mean that can be applied to that same question of is it a ghost or a demon?

50:51 Too. You can meditate on it and whatever. And again you're not going to necessarily get the one hundred percent answer to of those questions that we're talking about, but if your own belief, what you're sensing and stuff like that, it's a place to start. Yeah, right, And I know both of your answers to this probably, but the one that I really wanted to include in this is is there a connection between mental health and paranormal experiences? And I mean, as Eric would say, it's a simple answer, yes, yes, But that's one of the first things you should be investigating if you're called in an investigation team. Is there any type of not necessarily mental illness, but are are you grieving or is there a situation that's causing you to be sad or depressed? Or is there mental illness?

51:58 Are you taking medication for things? Stuff like that, and comfortable questions that we have to ask. Yeah, I mean, obviously mental illness isn't going to cause a spike in EMF, but that can also cause mental problems if you have high EMF in a very old home. Under So there is a scientific approach to it, you know, lot look at it logically, do the scientific testing that you can with the emath detector and whatnot. But yeah, like you said, consider your mental health, and that again comes to meditating or just simply thinking, like taking the time to even journal and think about all the things that are happening. Why do you feel what you're feeling.

52:41 Do you feel the press, do you feel anxious, do you feel angry, sad, et cetera. How long you've been feeling that way and what are the events caused that. This goes into the whole idea of shadow work getting to know the darker side of yourself, right, the side that doesn't want to show itself, the one that wants to hide away when you want to cap put a cap on and just keep deep down as a seekert. Right, It's very important to be shadow work. It's very important to have h and this I say this all the time. It's very important to have a to get a therapist. And I've always admitted, despite me saying that, you know, do as I say that as I do because I would refuse to get a therapist, but I will stay here right now live, that I did officially get myself a therapist this past week. So I'm finally practicing what I'm preaching in this case. So, yeah, therapy is important, you know, it's helped you all and theame. I always said that I would never go.

53:33 Back to a therapist too, but here I am talking to a counselor. Yeah. So yeah, it's definitely important to do a mental health check, you know, just know where you're at, because yes, those things can easily like depression, anxiety can easily manifest into what one would deem paranormal experiences. It can cause you to see things, it can cause you to feel things. It can cause you to hear things. The mind is incredibly wild and just it's so good at manipulating things, and they can you believe things that aren't really there. And I think that's the hard part with the paranormal, like how do you really know what's you and what is indeed an actual spirit that is haunting you? And honestly, that just comes with work, constant patients, testing, retesting, and learning about yourself.

54:22 I just want to add that if you keep a journal and you start looking back from when you first started and to where you are now, if there's any changes, you're going to see the changes in your writing styles. It could be darker, you know, and that could be an indication that hmm, I got to look into these things a little more deeper. Sure, all right, Any final thoughts on anything we've talked about from. From either of you, No, just no, Just if you have questions, reach out to somebody that you you trust that you can maybe talk about these things. And if you don't have anyone like that, reach out to Like I don't want to put you guys on the on the spot, but reach out to us, Evan. We might know someone who can help.

55:14 You, yes, sir, Yeah, all right, Kat, it is that time to tell everybody where they can find you and find your show and how. To reach you if they want to reach out. Well, my email address is Paranormal Heart one three at gmail dot com and Paranormal Heart podcast is on all the platforms you know, probably being Spotify. I'm also on YouTube. Awesome. Well, thank you for coming on for us, even though it's not an official Thanksgiving show. I thought it would be great to bring on somebody who were thankful for. And I guess they couldn't show up.

55:56 Yeah, that's why we caught you. We get a replace. Thank you so very much. But yeah, folks, thank you guys for always coming and listening to us. It's been a pleasure. Kat and I were just talking about this before we got on that Eric and I have been doing this for going on eighteen years now and Cat's going on eight so in podcast years, we're elderly compared to that. Well, I'm feeling it lately. You're the old guys, the longer the paradute chart, cheek boys with the parachuet, the olderly men. I had somebody say to me, oh, you're an og of podcasts. I'm like, thanks man, that that makes me feel so good.

56:48 You did? You have to get t shirts now. Og of podcasting. Until next week, folks, where you'll find us the same time, same channel. My name is Justin. I'm Eric Peace h