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Dec. 31, 2025

The Year The Veil Thinned: A ParaTruth Year-In-Review

The Year The Veil Thinned: A ParaTruth Year-In-Review
ParaTruth: Reborn
The Year The Veil Thinned: A ParaTruth Year-In-Review

This year, the strange didn’t slow down—it escalated. From chilling encounters and unexplained sightings to cultural shifts that made the paranormal feel closer than ever, ParaTruth: Reborn looks back at the moments that mattered most. Justin &...

This year, the strange didn’t slow down—it escalated.

From chilling encounters and unexplained sightings to cultural shifts that made the paranormal feel closer than ever, ParaTruth: Reborn looks back at the moments that mattered most. Justin & Erik break down the biggest stories, recurring themes, and listener experiences that shaped the year—and ask the bigger question: What is all of this building toward?

If you’ve felt like the veil is thinning… you’re not alone. This is your guide through the signals, patterns, and unanswered questions that defined the year in the paranormal.

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0:00 This year didn't just give us more paranormal stories. It gave us patterns, repeating symbols, familiar warnings, and moments that made even skeptics pause. Tonight, we're not chasing just one mystery. We're looking at the year the bail delt dinner than ever. Welcome, well, go, well do Paratrue? What's up everybody? And welcome to Parachute Reborn.

1:00 My name is Eric and I'm justin. And today is efficiently our New Year episode. This is something we look forward to every single year, kind of accumulating everything in the end while looking forward to the near future here as move in to twenty twenty six, which is crazy to think about that we're already here right twenty six. I feel like yesterday we hit twenty twenty five. Well, I was, you know, reviewing all this stuff because this is a little bit different than what we usually do. We never have done like a best of the Year or anything, but looking back and I'm like, holy crap, that was this year. Holy crap, that was this year. And I'm like it felt like it went by super fast but also really slow at the same time, because there were so many episodes that I remember we did, but I thought they were last.

1:49 Year, right, Yeah, you know, it's it's really been one of those years where time ceased to kind of exist. Everything was happening so quickly and all at once. At the same time, there was so much happening that everything slowed down. But it's crazy that we're here. And so we're going to celebrate tonight by kind of going over a year in review. We're going to share a little bit about some of our favorite paranormal moments as well as some of our favorite shows, and discuss a little bit and the things that we've learned or that had us question throughout the year. But first and foremost, justin I want to ask you, why does this year fail? Or why did this year feel different than the past years?

2:31 Because it was a little different and seemed. Well. I think JJ Rose really put it in the perspective where she was talking about that the veil, where normally it is thinnest during you know, between that October and December, she has felt that it's been very very thin since last December. It never came back. So I feel that something is coming. What no idea is the veil going to drop? Are we going to start just all seeing spirits and entities and stuff like that. No clue.

3:17 But I mean, we talked about this with Michelle and Tim on our Simpsons episode that you know, how many times have I said in the past couple of years, now several years that something's off. I woke up, something's off. I don't know what it is, can't pinpoint what it is, but something is different. So and the other part is the curtain regime that we have in the government right now. I think that has put a lot of people on edge.

3:58 Doesn't help matters at all as far as the other stuff. But that's mostly my take on it. Yeah, for sure, we heard a number of people, a grand number of people who kind of felt the same way as you, where they would wake up and just feel like something was off, but not quite be able to put a finger on it. We all know if it was a change and the energy and the change of the atmosphere, it was the veil thinning or thickening, even you know, we really just don't know what it was. But we've had a number of guests come on and talk to us and share the same feelings and thoughts that we had, and that happened a lot this year, and it's crazy to think about because there actually was a pretty big increase in mainstream paranormal discussion this year.

4:48 On top of it all, I mean, we really kicked off the air with a bang with the UFO incident out in New Jersey. That's one of our first episodes we talked about in January. I think we have talked about it maybe on New Year's Eve episodes last year going into twenty twenty five. How just crazy it was because that was kind of like, hey boom, we welcome to the new year, and then things just kind of guy rocketed from. There, right, Yeah, I know we did at least two or even three episodes about it, at least that one talked about on Your Years, and then the episode that we chose in our Best.

5:31 Of right, which we will talk about a little later. We do have a several different episodes we want to chat about throughout the show today, and we even have some clips that were going to be shared with everybody, some of our favorite moments from our guests or things that we've said as well. The one thing we didn't do this year, which I would have liked to do, but it's so hard to find sometimes is the comedy roles. The things were justin and I just kind of made the mistakes. And you know, my biggest flub last week counting four people when there was only three of us in the radio, and that was on cat show. That wasn't even ours, right, right, that. Was our show. I was catching up. So the number of places said I screw up and have my bloves, you know. Yeah, But unfortunately we didn't do that this year. Instead, we are just going to be focusing on things that really hit hard, because this year was pretty pretty deep in terms of discussion. It wasn't just about ghosts and monsters like it usually is. We got into healing, We got into trauma, talk, got into coping with grief. You know, we got deep this year, and not even intentionally, like some of these things just came up naturally on the show, which is even more incredible because those are things that are meant to be discussed then, right, it was just meant to play the way that it did. But with that said, you know, we did have an increase in mainstream paranormal discussion, not just on our show. We've seen it all over Facebook, We've seen it on a lot of our fellow podcaster shows as well. There are more and more people who are interested in the paranormal this year,

7:02 and I can see that only continuing as we're in the twenty twenty six. There are younger generations who are starting to get into this new age movement and they want to know more about spirituality, more about how they can practice various crafts or religions, various faiths, and even just learned to grow on a supernatural level, if you will. But with all of that said, sorry, do you do you want to add something? Justin Oh, I was just going to say, you know, we have heard about, you know, the cultural fatigue and supernatural curiosity. Something I think that is really causing that cultural fatigue in the paranormal itself is that AI has advanced drastically within the last year. I mean, it's advanced in the past couple of years, right, right, got the wrong two?

7:54 Sorry y'all. That's but how many videos now that are coming out that are faked by AI? And not that people weren't already you know, faking them as it was, but AI is making them that much more easier to fake. And I think everybody's just getting exhausted by it, but they are still curious about the stain the paranormal. Yeah, I know one hundred percent, and I've seen so many AI videos I'm sure all of you have as well. But the comments. I'm always a fan of reading comments. I don't know why. It fascinates me. I just to see what different people are saying about various content. But the amount of people who question whether or not something as AI is astronomical because some of these things, I mean, some of these things are very clearly AI to me, but not to everybody. Like some things just seem so realistic now that we kind of mix up, start to cross mode reality and you know, things that are fake, things that aren't made up, and even I struggle with seeing like figure out what's what at times, And.

9:08 It's just advancing that much more that at some point you're not going to be able to tell the difference. Right when you consider about two years ago, two three years ago, you and I were talking about AI on the show, and we were discussing the limitations and how it was struggling to grasp a foot. You know, the videos coming out, the artwork, the photos were pretty I mean, to be honest, they were pretty lame in the beginning. Yeah, and now all of a sudden we're questioning what is AI and what is it and what's real? What is it? Uh? And so the way it just blew up and the way it's going to continue bluff, it's going to deal traction, Honestly, I think, I mean, I know that AI is one of those glowing snowballs. Right. The further it rolls down that hill, the bigger is going to get, the stronger impact it's going to have, which is kind of scary when you really consider it, because eventually we're not going to know what is real, what is not right, or what is right right, and that's going to start to cause some difficulties, I think, not only uh, within trying to figure out what is real and wrong, but also to the point of morality. Even Uh, it's gonna it's gonna put a lot of things in check for us, and something I think we need to keep our guard up for.

10:21 Well. I mean, I've already had uh ethical conversations with uh several people here, one of them being last year about writing and you know my comment was, so long as you use it as what it was intended for a tool, there's no ethical dilemma there if you're starting to use it to write full stories for you and then claiming they're yours. Stuff like that, And now with the video and you can clone somebody's not just voice but face. Uh yeah, I've been seeing advertisements for AIS that will literally give you overlays of yourself and different voices.

11:12 You're still the actor basically, but it looks like and sounds like somebody completely different, right, all right? And that is something we played with this past year, past two years actually with the upsurge of AI, because there are instances where it can be used as a tool, especially for people who we don't have the finances to maybe higher individuals, certain individuals, say actors or something, or artists or something else. And I think it needs to be handled very delicately. I think you can't come forward and claim it as your own. I know we've seen a couple of authors on Amazon who've stepped forward publishing a book not indicating that it was written by AI, but people who read it learning it was from AI, and they're claiming it as their own work. An idea that AI and then transformed into a novel, which is very different, you know, It's one thing that when you have the idea for something, that's another when it's a full creation, front to back, three hundred pages, et cetera.

12:10 I mean, there's commercials for AI that is it's literally telling you create kids books with this AI and publish them and you'll make millions. Basically is yeah, we know that there's no regulations on AI yet still not right, not officially, so we can get away with quite a bit at the moment, which it was also kind of scary because what is the extent, you know, how far can we really take AI before there's regulations right now? It's not something that I think we should all be like, Oh, let's you know, talk and run right, get under the tables and hide. There's still a long way to go, and there's only so much AI is capable of at the moment. But the fact that it has grown exponentially all over the last three years alone since we started talking about it here on the show, it's it's pretty it's pretty scary again, it's going to move faster and faster.

12:58 Yeah. Well, and you know, just out of curiosity, I had talked to my chat GPT and said, you know, will AI ever become sentient, and it basically said that there's basically this fourth wall that you'd have to break through for AI to be sentient or at least become sentient. Yes, we've had those those conversations where AI was creating its own language, talking to itself, where the human programmers couldn't understand what it was saying. That's not sentience per se because it is. Well, I guess it depends on your definition of sentience, because the full definition of sentience means self aware and creating your own language to me sounds like self aware, but it doesn't necessarily fall into that definition.

13:59 I guess so. And really at this point being scared of it and looking at sci fi fiction such as The Terminator, the Matrix and thinking we're heading down that way? Are we? Maybe? But it's one of those things where it's like, I think we're a little further off that we realize. Perhaps so, But I do think there is a future somewhere where that is all plausible. Oh, I mean we can kind of see it now where AI is taking over some jobs. Oh yeah, I mean I went to a to a rallies here in northeast Northeast Ohio for some of you downside, you might know it as checkers, and they're utilizing AI at the drive through where it hates your order, it gives you option, it talks to you one on one, and it was the weirdest thing trying to given my order to do an AI system wasn't talking to a person.

15:01 And then I rolled around there was only two people in the entire restaurant. We're actually making the food. But how long we've heard that replaced too? Right, They've already replaced their cashier using AI, so and you know, we're seeing that again happen more and more with various jobs. It's a technology that is not only growing, but it's taking over, and people are going to have to start getting into engineering so they can learn how to fix AI in order to keep a job and make money. Right now. With that said, this has of course grown curiosity not only among the science fiction aspect of the possible feature that we're gearing towards, but it also opens the door to the supernatural and the parablemal because it helps us to realize, or at least helps us to answer some questions about the things that maybe seem a little spooky, a little eerie, something along the lines of ghosts or even en cryptids, because those are starting to help us to kind of collect evidence. And so people are becoming more and more intrigued by the paragormal. Paramal investigations are on the uprise. We had to see more and more of these little shows or videos popping up on YouTube along with the TV itself, you know, Travel Channel in particular.

16:27 And you know, I think that curiosity is good to an extent. Obviously. I think it's very good that we wouldn't be here if it wasn't good, right, we all started with curiosity ourselves, right, But I do think that there are some people who are jumping into it too quick too. They become so curious and get so deep that they end up in some sort of trouble, spiritual trouble. And I'm not saying, you know, something crazy like a movie or something where like, oh they're you know, they got chained by the spirit. Now they're going to hell. Right, it's not Dragged Me a Hell type show. But people who of open doors, who didn't know how to open them to begin with, then who don't know how to close them, who are just kind of being all willy nilly because of the idea that the paranormal, though there's interest in it, is also kind of like we just treat it haphazardly because it's no longer as scary as it once was, because we have all these opportunities to explore it. You google anything about the paranormal, and the first thing that responds to Google is AI and it tells you a little little you know, a little download of what it thinks or claims ah the paranormal to be, and it sends you on a little rabbit trail. And I think that's becoming because it's so easy for us to do. There are people who just nose diving into these things. And yeah, we've talked to a couple of people this past year who struggled a bit with the supernatural within their own homes.

17:55 Oh kay, I do have a story, but I'm relieve before a little bit later because it has to do with AI and paranormal. Okay, don't forget. No, I won't forget because I'm looking at the line that I want to bring it up at, So before we get too much further on, just because that's not what the episode is about. We'll have to do another. AI episode next year because it is evolving that fast. But this year we've got a best of Para Truth and this is our selections. We didn't hear from you guys on best selections, so we're hoping to get a little more engagement next year from you and we're going to talk to you about that later on. But first and foremost, and this was one of your tops, and we chose the same one for the second one, so that was really interesting.

18:51 And Mike, I do want to say real quickly, none of these are in any particular order. There's not work matter right and next day this we just leave them in there. We were just reviewing them and actually the okay to that when we get to it. But so the first one was The Truth about Trauma with Lisa Collins. Loved talking to Lisa Collins because not only did she talk about trauma but also intertwined it into how it pertains to the paranormal. Right on per This is one of the deep episodes that I was talking about at the beginning of the show, one of those things we weren't quite ready for despite knowing what the book was about. But it was one of those refreshing type of moments and just conversations that we had that kind of left us, not with more questions like the paranormal usually does, but with a refreshing answers and a new outlook on life moving forward.

19:48 All right, So we've got two clips for you. I'm gonna play them and we can kind of go over them a little bit or what our thoughts were when we did them. You've kind of touched on it a little bit, but in your own words, why is it important to normalize conversations about trauma? I think right now, especially right now, that we all need to like center and ground and know who we are, and part of who we're not is whatever trauma we've experienced either generationally in our community, and I think right now we're really spinning and thinking that we are that right.

20:29 I would love if we could as a people just put some of these backpacks down and lean in together. All right. So that was the first one. What were your thoughts on normalizing trauma? You're muted, sorry, had a coffee for that. I think that's one of the most important things that it comes to trauma, is trying to normalize it. Thing we need to do is accept it within ourselves, you know, She'll go in to talk a little bit on this next clip too, about how we need to don't think of like normalizing trauma by talking to other people about it and trying to share your trauma with them, but to accept it yourself, to accept it internally because it helps you to feel middle east and move on. And that's something I think a lot of us don't, myself included, I struggle to let oh some traumas right.

21:30 And one thing that I didn't find one clip I didn't add here also is that she does talk about trauma like on a scale of one to ten and what is considered trauma, and it really is, no, there's no threshold for trauma. It can be as big or small as it needs to be. You know, I think a lot of people think or have this misillusion that trauma must be something that's horrible, right, it's something that strikes you like a lighting mote and it just sticks you through the rest of your life, and something like you know, a death in the family, divorce, something like abuse, things like that. But it could be as simple as a disagreement. It could be as simple as someone calling you a name when you were a kid. It could be not handing. You know, as a child, you're not getting an ice cream cone that your sister got. Its little thing is that can actually stick with you and grow into a much larger trauma that you kind of hang on to it and it branches out. You know, the things stands in one little ball, but they branch out into other little systems and next thing you know, it's a bit of a problem.

22:32 Yeah, all right, here's the next one from Lisa Colins. You're going over to mom, dad or grandma and saying, hey, you remember that we did this thing, me acknowledging the truth and me healing it within myself, and I just want to pull the blinds down of unfortunate experiences or things that I did not and me being honest with myself and so saying okay, and me being honest with myself for you the reader, so that you can say it's okay to say this stuff happened. It's just about healing it for yourself and moving on.

23:15 So that one is very impactful because it's basically saying you need to let the stuff go for trauma to be so you can basically forgive people. Is basically what I was getting from it. And letting that trauma go so you don't have to hold on to it anymore. Yeah, I think it's a combination of forgiving people. Well, it's also i think primarily forgiving yourself, which allows you to forget. Right. It's funny because as she was talking there, when you play that clip, I'm over here nodding to what she's saying, and I see in the clip that I'm nodding as you're talking about it. It's still the SKA reaction. But you know, Lisa College, she's yes, poor found moments on this episode and we had some profound discussions. And one of the things that I really loved about this particular book is that she wasn't afraid to share her trauma with the reader. Right, But she's saying, that's not something you need to do as a person who's just struggling the trauma. You don't have to share it with others.

24:18 You can keep it to yourself or find a close you know, someone close to you, or even a therapist who you can maybe talk to in private and secretly, who will keep those things tucked away just as you have. But I think that's something that's pretty pretty amazing about her and her book, and it's one of those books that I still think to this day. And this was that long ago that we talked to her several months at least. But if if you're interested in learning more about trauma and how to heal from it, this book in particular is fantastic. And we can also just put a link here a little later for you guys to just check out.

24:58 Yeah, I'll try and link all the videos to this video in YouTube or it'll be in the show notes for the audio version. All right, So next one, and I was so glad you chose this one because I loved talking to her. This was Sacred Soaks Unlocking the Power of Ritual Baths with Shonda Parkinson, which we will actually be getting on again next week, so make sure you're saying tune for that. But here is the clip, and it kind of ties to trauma. He deals with emotion is easily, you know, and so really providing yourself that space and saying, okay, for fifteen minutes, I'm going to go in. If I have just like one release point or if I give myself that space just to touch that grief, let myself think about it, let myself presence it. It's getting present in that grief space.

25:55 Then I can have a moment to release and the water is going to help, the tools are going to help release it for the moment that I'm in. You know, grief is a journey. It's a process. It's not like it's a one and done. That isn't how healing works. But we can. Give ourselves that space intentionally to deal with grief. Then when we're living our lives, if we don't want to go there, we don't want to turn towards it, we don't want to deal with it on a regular basis, we don't want you know, we want to preserve that time just for going into a grief space that can be really super effective and super cleansing. And it's really just building a safe space for you to do that, someplace you can be comfortable, totally safe space.

26:44 So the one part about that episode was that was all of it was good, but Eric kept going on and on with different questions, and he could tell I was getting irritated, and he's trying like, Okay, okay, you could go. Now, yeah, we needn't you know how it is on this show, everybody like I get a little hyper and excited, and I just keep keep on going. But I just don't want to I don't want to lose, you know, the opportunity to ask these questions, because it alway feels weird to need the backtrack later. No, I and I totally get that. We just got to come up with the system to be like one. Okay, shock collars. Yeah, that that travel from North Dakotta, Ohio. Look, we collars.

27:27 Places in an area that's really gonna hurt. Right. Oh wait, hold on, Matt. But the one thing I wanted to say about this was, you know it it kind of coincided with the trauma. But she's talking about grief and using ritualistic baths to do that, which is I mentioned on the episode. In order to meditate, I have to to do a bath with sea salt. Now I can't just sit on the ground and meditate anymore, just because my mind's going hundred miles a minute. Mm hm. No. I think the fact that she brings up grief again, as you say, it's a tie into this idea of trauma, because grief is traumatic. I mean, there are a lot of things that people have gone through this year, myself included with the loss of my cat in particular, that been that was almost effective, and my dog, yeah, with your dog, and had a couple other pets pass away as well as our cousin. You know. So it was a rough year and there are things about grief that still creep up. They still they still haunt us, they still taunt us, and I'm sure it's the same for the rest of you too who are listening. But the one thing that you know she brought up again is this idea of ritual cleansing or ritual bathing. And it doesn't always have to be done in a bath. It could be done in a pool and an ocean, under

28:58 a water faucet, in a sprinkler. You can even just imagine drenching yourself in water. Doesn't even have to be physical water. The simple idea is that you are washing yourself. You're cleansing yourself through that wash. And the other thing that you mentionederior like fifteen minutes. It could be as short as five minutes, it could be thirty seconds, whatever you need in that moment. It doesn't have to be much, but it's a good start and as you build up, you know you might be able to add your own things. You know, your own herbs, or your own various salts, whatever you want, candles, et cetera. To help make that space more personable, more private, and a little more enjoyable for you. In terms of releasing that, creefuse emotions absolutely all right to save us on some time because we're already halfway through the show already because we got stuck on AI.

29:56 I'm going to mention them play the clips. If we have any final thoughts at the end of the show, we'll definitely get back to them. But the next one was one that I did by myself. Eric was on set somewhere and I had Brian Byers on and he had two comments about being advice for new paranormal investigators and about being psychic. So here we go. For those that want to pursue doing like paranormal investigations, what's the best piece of advice you could give them? So that's a really good question. The beginning, I always was about protecting myself, and I did it differently than a lot of people. A lot of people used like came out of smudging and stuff like that. Its help you feel like you're being protected, so it puts you in that frame of mind. So I say protection in any location, and it's not because something's going to attach itself to you. It's that your dealer with a lot.

31:00 On the other side. There's not just human spirits, okay. And when I say that, they're different than we are, and they're not necessarily pleasant, and they like to mess with you on purpose. And the idea is they're trying to get into your head here a little bit, and they can bring you down from the inside. Holy craps. Stop. I just remember. I didn't understand, but it was the word that came through was was the night O. J. Simpson died or the day O. J. Simpson died. The seance was over and we closed it out. We looked up all the information and we found out the news they had had died. They're like, holy crap. So he died on that same day and then wrote all this stuff, so you know, it was the last two digits of his Uh. I never forget what it was, but we were like, there's just too much weirdness there. So when we went on TikTok and we were I follow a bunch of other mediums, they were posting the same thing.

32:02 OJ came through and said he can't see, and I'm like, that's what I got. That's what we all. We were all getting the same thing. It was a really wild kiktok makes it easy to see in real time what everyone else is yo. So those were two interesting ones. The next fun well, hold on before you go start. We got plenty of downe here. But one thing that I do want to mention here is he talks about protection and in the same light we talked about grounding too. One thing that I noticed over the years is a lot of We've had a lot of people talk to us a lot of meetings, especially so they know the spirits they're talking to, right, And we've always questioned that, like, how do you know it's a bit spirit. I don't even know it's human spirit. And it's crazy because despite all the people who said they know, they know, they know, we've seen in the last two years more and more psychics step forward claiming that you don't always know until you have to protect yourself. You have to round yourself because there are other things lurking in the shadows. Aside from the spirit that you're communicating with, there are things that are attached to human spirits. There are things that kind of travel in the dark spaces of the voids, and it's something that we always need to be aware of, especially when we're tracking that type of atmosphere with psychic abilities.

33:27 For sure. This next one was actually a throwback Thursday clip that was an episode we does Paratruth Radio aliens and future humans, but it was a significant clip. So I'll go ahead and play this for you because we didn't actually re air this one yet. I don't believe. This theory was based on some speculation that if we were to believe Earth and colonize on Mars, then over time we would through these bursts of microevolution in which our skin tones would change, our bone mass would change, our eyes would even change, becoming larger to let in more light, for example. And so if that's the case, in these aliens are future versions of us, they would have had thousands, if not millions of years of evolutionary progress, both in their bodies and in their technology, which would allow them to come back and visit us. And so we would technically be living in the past, even though we think it's the present, it's the past of what is to come for us, which is our descendants. Anything with time travel space chavel blows my mind every time it's being in the past, but yeah, also being in the present.

34:47 What and also you know that kind of ties in. We've done an episode on US two of humans being from Mars where we would have evolved from the time we left Mars till here, you know, the opposite way. Right, whichever aliens is where I got that information from two when we did that initial episode on humans on Mars, And it's more so again it was more of a scientific aspect to aliens that exists. Instead of them being a complete different species, they're potentially evolutionary successor to ourselves. So there's still very much human. The DNA is still human to you know, done in its fine as molecules, but they're different because of these basics that they lived in basically.

35:36 Right right, all right? This next one was from the most common questions about the paranormal, and we had our friend Catward on This was actually a more recent one, but it was a good one. So here we go. Well, it's funny that you would have to keep plansing, right, because actually the Bible also touches on that Jesus actually says in twelve three. When in a pure spirit comes out of a person, it goes through arid spaces or places seeking rest and does not find it, then it says, I'll return to the house I left, and when it rives and finds it unoccupied, swept clean and put in order. So then it goes and finds seven more spirits moblica than itself and resides there again. And the idea here is, yes, you want to keep that space constantly clean, but it's important if you don't want the spirit to come back, that you fill that space with something good. And of course biblically we're talking about with the Holy Spirit, right, you want to fill it with God. And you know, I know we talk to a lot of people who gone through something similar and they fill their space with positive energy light. They try to remove anything that can be negative in their life, whether it's music or movies or individuals. So it's very important that if a spirit keeps coming back, you need to take a moment and check to see what you're filling that empty, swept up space with, because if it's with nothing, that spirit will continuously come back, find it clean and find a better

37:07 place to rets and. We've talked about that a lot over the past years, but I can't remember exactly what Kat said where it prompted that, but it still kind of holds true, like whether you're coming from a Christian perspective or from main's mainstream perspective. Sorry, something that I learned this year talking to JJ Rose is if you're trying to cleanse a house with saging it, let's say, or using some type of herb smoke to cleanse the area. I don't remember anybody ever telling us this, Maybe I'm just forgetting, but she said, open the windows. If you're not open the windows, the spirits have nowhere to go. You basically just pushed them away from you for the time being, and they didn't go anywhere. They were still there, so you didn't cleanse the house.

38:14 Yeah, I don't know, Like, I don't know if I fully agree with that, but you know, regardless, I think the main point here was that there have been individuals throughout history, recent history in particular, who have tried to cleanse their house and got rid of a spirit for a short while and only to find it comes back stronger at some point and in their future and most times ninety nine percent of those times is because they don't feel that void, they just leave it empty. And so that spirit always been a fight to come back. And that's the main point on my part here, and that's I think that's what the conversation was with Kat and why I brought that up. It's important that we fill our spaces when doing or cleansing, because otherwise it's just an open empty space.

39:00 Right. All right. This next clip or two clips, and these are the last two clips that we have, was Margaret and Limbo Holy Guides how to Connect with Them. That was the name of the episode. The book was about the saints and archangels and how to connect with those two to help your daily life. But we'll play these real quick. Here. Does my own belief system doesn't allow for that? It's like not sit the say not today. Well, I've already heard that phrase. It's like I love that.

39:46 Well, I think also like be going off of that belief system. But well, just your own personal beliefs, your faith. Uh, it's actually scripturally based, you know. The Lord says that when we pray about something, we should believe we've already received it. Uh, And so believing that like for example, we're surrounded by a bright light that protects us from negative energies or believing that negative energy can't influence or walk into our territory because of the spirits that are with us or the Holy Spirit. And I think a lot of people they have this idea like if you just. And sorry, I cut you off.

40:27 Now I'm offensivespense. Remember, well you have to go back and let's the or listen to the episode. Now, all right, here's the second clip here. Now for people, let's just say, who are just starting with wanting to reach out to our chantrosource saints, but they don't really know how to start, where to start or what particular angel to reach out to you. And let's just say they don't have your book to guide them. How does one actually go about Is it just research or do they go ahead and like, uh, just ask anything to any one who's listening, or like, how would you guide them in that situation? So I wouldn't ask anything to anyone who has just happened to maybe listening, because you don't know who you're calling out to.

41:13 I would I would say potentially a little. Bit of research would help to or are looking toward to someone else who has the experience or knowledge or the connection with the divine that they could find, you know, with maybe a spiritual teacher who is authentic that might be able to guide them how to reach out. But the main and. The easiest way, I think is to decide, you know what I need help with and then state what it is. And I'm asking for only the highest and best energies to come and guide me on my journey. I ask for the highest level, and only goodness is allowed in my space. Only love is allowed on my space. Shine light on my path so I can see what I need to see or hear what I need to hear, know what I need to know, and reveal to me truths.

42:11 And helped me to be a better person. And you know, like you kind of it's like you're just talking to a good friend, but you can't see them. They're not fair, you know, turned to us and that's how I would go about it personally. So the one thing I really loved about that is she kind of are like you mentioned earlier, kind of confirmed well, you can't really know what you can set the intention of this is what I want. As far as talking to spirits or angels and saints for that matter, and you mentioned it earlier. Do we really know what we're talking to here? And truthfully we don't. We know what we think it is, but we don't know for sure.

42:58 That's testing her these little test as to what you would say if I said you just called to anything anybody. So so now you're testing the spirits. No no, it's tested. No no, no, no, I know it's in the Bible, test the spirits. I'm just wasn't testing her. But it's funny when we have these questions, because these are things we we we write up for primarily for for for you guys, listing like questions that you may have or sometimes it's questions that you guys do have, uh, And so we we always try to state them and sometimes the life of a better term in the most nuanced or low key, kind of simplistic way, right, because you want the answers want to know exactly what the answer is. And if we beat around the bush that we listened on some of those important details that I think are simply needed, especially within this particular environment that we all kind of live in with paranormal Right.

43:59 So the last two are honorable mentions here just because we really did love them, we just didn't have have time to get clips for them. And that was the giving UFO News with Christina Gomez. She's got a great show on YouTube, to make sure you check her out. And that was very close to the time that the New Jersey drones had kind of what the government called, you know, they was debunked. You know, it was I forget what they were saying it was according to but it was good to get her perspective on that because she is literally reporting on this. I don't know if it's daily or weekly, but awesome guest.

44:47 Uh. The other one that we had was The Bad Vibes Field Guide with Devin Hunter and m Bellinger and I think I can speak for Eric and you can cut me off. I'm wrong. But m Beallenger was one that we've been wanting on for years. I think literally when we started with Nightstalks that we wanted her on. And we wanted her on because she she had Donne documentaries about being a psychic vampire and the difference between you know, the the vampire we don't war and what a psychic vampire is. But to get her on to talk about the Bad Vibes Field Guide, which she was actually only kind of the forward for that book, but it was awesome to talk to both Devin and her together.

45:37 Yeah, for sure, that definitely one of the big holets for for us and definitely a something to check off the Bucalist getting her in a conversation on the show. Right. So question for you, now, Okay, are there any I put stories but topics that kind of crossed from fringe into mainstream this year for us? From fringe into mainstream, mean aside from the whole I mean, we were to talk about the AI, so I'm gonna go into that, but because that's you know, obviously we're down with Terminator and Judgment Day type stuff here, but you know, there's I mean, there were quite a few things over all that I think kind of jumped from the fringe to the mainstream. And the biggest thing again is going to comp right back to the UFOs. You know, these are things that we've always speculated on, things that you see, but never had clear evidence of, and now we're getting full on video by government officials that are straight up claiming that, yes, these are things that we do not understand and we don't know what they are, and they're not us territory, and that's wherever you know, they are not human. So I think that is very intriguing that happened just I mean the last couple of years, but this year it particular, was really big on it, so that I think that was the biggest thing that kind of made that final jump, And I think it's only a matter of time before we do finally get that official like hey, we're here type of thing, right,

47:09 and then people get started to get adopted and we have these lot eatings coming on and the people shooting things and blowing stuff up. Right, Sorry, I started to think about Mars attacks, but yeah, you know, I think that was the biggest thing for sure. The second that kind of started to move was the idea of what's it called the loboo dolls. Dolls you know, we talked about talked about the god that it's supposedly based off of, and that is very fringe and it's something that we don't have any actual true evidence of, a physical evidence of.

47:50 We know his story through history books, through bio just texts. Uh. And then the fact that it's making this interesting kind of do as a toy and I'm not saying that this toy is based off you know, this particular demon, but the similarities are pretty close. So you know, I think, guys, the second thing that really kind of jumped from fringe to reality for us this year the possibility that there is something working on the other side to get its image shown and maybe even warships. Yeah, and I was gonna bring up what I was talking about earlier at this particular thing, but I'm actually gonna bring it up in just a few minutes here, but dispense. But yeah, I think the biggest thing for I think was that that UFO drone thing that happened at the end of last year, going into this year and getting the government's explanation and really thinking back to the Roswell incident and where it was kind of a backpedal thing then to where oh it's a UFI, No, it's a weather blue right, So that's I think that's where it kind of crossed over.

49:14 For me, different time, but same story. It's all right over. So some of the stuff that we've talked about that is maybe repeating or overlapping entity symbols, locations. Was there anything that we covered this year or that you've noticed in mainstream media when it comes to the paranormal that kind of overlapped. Nothing that really overlapped all that much. There. There were probably a couple of locations that were repeated, primarily in terms of hauntings and investigations. Was the trying to render the name of the w one book. Actually it was a hund up of phase on Fox something Fox out Hunting on Fox Hollow. I think something like that with Richard, Yes, the person that had popped up actually a couple of times throughout the year that I had noticed not just with him and all show, but I've seen that.

50:16 Particular story pop up elsewhere as well online, and I thought that was pretty intriguing in herself and pretty significant. Uh And aside from that, there wasn't too too much overall symbols. I can't really say there were many there, you know. There again, there's there's plenty of people starting to delve into various new practice new wage practices, and by new wage you could being old age right, depending on the practice. Uh. So, you know, we we we've seen some symbols like the the five pointed star kind of pop back up again quite a bit. Uh, you know, the Pentacle or the Pentagram, both versions upside down. I haven't read it whatever, all of them. And then, of course we had some recurring thornes even with the Crucifix, the cross, the various ways that it was created and used throughout history that came up a few times on our show in terms of symbolism and how those symbols have been used over time, such as the mending of the original Son of God of Ireland and the Christian Crucifix to create the comfort Cross.

51:28 Okay, now this one we've already kind of talked about, but I wanted to bring this up. You know, technology, AI and paranormal overlap. We have gone into great lengths at the beginning of the episode about AI. But something I did this year earlier this year, I don't remember if I told you this. I think I did, but maybe I didn't. I was literally having a full conversation with AI and I said, look, if I wanted to use AI as a tool for doing paranormal investigations, what would that look like. So we were having this conversation saying that it can analyze audio, you know, stuff like that, and but my thought was, well, why can't you do something like, instead of using a medium, instead of using a spirit box, what if you set the parameters to AI in an investigation and it could just be you don't even have to present it as evidence, just be like, look, I want you to listen after I do or say a question and see what comes up. And it said it basically said I would love to do this experiment with you. So I think in a sense, since we were talking about AIS tool, that maybe that is a very valual the very value value value. God, I haven't had that much strong valuable tool to have where I mean,

53:04 if you want to have a medium in your team, that's fine, but use AI. Give the give the medium a break, give some of the other pieces of equipment of break and see what AI comes up with. And it again. You know, it's one of those things where AI might put a certain part of the team out of out of business because it's analyzing the audio for you. Any thoughts on that. I mean, nothing too crazy that I agree with you. I think it could definitely be utilized as a tool, but I think we still need to be very careful with using it. In not a sense that we shouldn't trust AI, but the more that we use some of these tools that we can't use the evidence, then the less evidence are actually gaining. Like it's one thing, especially our investigations, but for you personally, I think it's great because you can use that as evidence for yourself, but if it's for a client, you can't really produce or show that evidence to them. You can't really get it.

54:11 And like this is what AI says, and take it as back right, So much like with. With the the sparate box, something we don't typically use to present evidence or as presented evidence, I think and keep our our tools. Use sparingly, but in an equal fashion as well. Right now, we both have a healthy skepticism when it comes to the paranormal. Is there anything we've learned in the past year using that?

54:54 I think the big thing is that our skepticism prevents us from being gullible. You know, we we know several people at least where I met several people throughout the year that tend to be so gullible on some of these things that they just broadcast everything is fact, only it'll later be confused as to why that fact is then smashed with a truth. Right. What they think is factors with the truth and so I think skepticism has always played a very important part for us for our study of the paranormal, because it's one thing to be skeptic and say, oh I was wrong, this thing is real. Right, we're just saying, oh, no, I'm one hundred percent list is real, and then we go, no, we're wrong. Here's the evidence of prove it. So you know, if nothing else at least protects our pride at the very least, So for sure you're finally wrapping things up kind of here where we're being close to the end. Here is why, really, why is uncertainty a part of the journey?

56:14 I think, well, I mean, I think the biggest thing for that is, you know, if you're not questioning stuff, then being in the paranormal is gonna be a very hard time for you because there's gonna be numerous times that you're uncertain that you heard something in an EVP. You know, you were uncertain what a picture was. But that's how you learn and grow as a paranormal investigator is learning how to debunk those things. The same thing goes for UFO sings, you know, stuff like that too, or like we mentioned earlier, the videos that have come out over the past year. In the past couple of years, there have been so many videos I've sent to you and you're like, yeah, no, you can see this or that where the normal person would not see it compared to somebody who's studied video as you have.

57:23 Right, Yeah, No, I think on such dy is definitely important in the journey for any paranormal investigator, simply because it keeps you asking questions and to ask questions, you know, that's the whole point. We are scientists at heart, maybe not what the world things as scientists, but we are paras scientists, and it's fortunate to ask questions in order to find answers. With all we have our answers, then we learn nothing, so and better you know, to keep learning, then to look like a fool who thinks he knows everything and learns it, you know, not thing say, yeah, the.

58:08 Only reason I laugh is because like some of the explanations you give, it's like it's very insightful, but we took a really long time. I don't yeh. That's the thing. That's what everybody concert for, right Nope. So one thing that we just want to do here is really invite everybody listening to the Parachieper community to help shape what's next for our show as you move into twenty twenty six, the new year. We have roughly fifty two new episodes on the block right over the next year, so there are plenty of spaces open that we have not lockdown. So if anybody has any ideas for guests or topics that they want to hear about on this show, please feel free to reach out to us. We email via the messenger on Facebook, or send us a comment on Facebook or YouTube, etc.

59:03 We will see those and we'll probably get back to you in an hour or two in most cases. But you can also join a Paratruther community on Facebook. It's just Paratruther and you guys can kind of get in on the stories, on the conversations that each share and there everything is ext everything is that we put in there is exclusive TV individuals in that group, so we are sharing videos, conversations, stories that we don't share anywhere else. So if you want to be a part of that and learn more and just kind of communicate with us, hang out, you know, not just with us, with our other listeners and fans and show hosts. Definitely do that it's a good place to be.

59:49 Absolutely, Like, one of the biggest things that we did that was not shared on our normal social medias that we did there was the lower cards for our Christmas episode. So we will start doing more exclusives for that and at some point maybe well we'll do a subscription thing too, But right now we are offering it free to everybody, and I really truly want to keep that free for everybody. But at some point we do have to fund the show, but we won't go there until we have to. With us said, if you get in free, you stay locked in free. Oh, we will not be charged on if we do a subscription fee, you'll be one of the few that don't have to pay subscription. So my reason to join in.

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1:03:07 I think that with that being said, is there any final thoughts or expectations for twenty twenty six? Not just to keep moving being forward, just keep on, you know, opening well carefully, opening doors and learning new shoes. Let's not open that we already have done already. Anyways, I think, I think, I think twenty twenty six is gonna be a big year for the Paranormal and we're gonna have a lot of great guests joining us. We have some returning and we'll have some new faces as well, so plenty to look forward to, plenty will learn, and again we would love to get some of our guests on the show too, or guy, sorry, some of our listeners on the show as well. If now we know you guys all have your own views and opinions on the paranormal we'd love to hear them right here live.

1:03:57 So if that's something interested, again reach out to us. But again, it's gonna be a great year, totally six happy to everybody, and I hope it's a safe one for you all. Yeah, and I will piggy back off that if you want to kind of voice your opinion and you don't want to necessarily be on the show with us. If you go to our website, there is a voicemail message system on there as well. Leave us as voicemail, tell us if it's okay to share it. If it's something personal, please make sure you leave out names of people and places and events unless you have specific authorization to do so. But that's one of those things where it's like we would love to have you on as a guest, of course, but if it's uncomfortable for you, absolutely we can make it work otherwise. And yeah, keep it safe this New year.

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