Nov. 2, 2025

Sacred Soaks: Unlocking The Power of Ritual Baths w/Chanda Parkinson

Sacred Soaks: Unlocking The Power of Ritual Baths w/Chanda Parkinson
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This week on ParaTruth: Reborn, Erik and Justin welcome Chanda Parkinson, author of The Book of Ritual Baths. Discover the ancient and modern practice of ritual bathing—how water can cleanse, heal, and transform not just the body, but the spirit. From simple self-care rituals to deeply spiritual ceremonies, learn how to create baths that bring clarity, protection, love, and abundance.

Guest Bio: Psychic intuitive, spiritual mentor, and author Chanda Parkinson uses her spiritual gifts, tarot, and astrology to guide others through life transitions with clarity and compassion. Author of the award-winning “Meditations for Psychic Development: Practical Exercises to Awaken Your Sixth Sense,” Chanda is dedicated to helping others discover their own spiritual gifts.

📖 Learn more about Chanda and get her book here: https://chandaparkinson.com
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Welcome.

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We we do part truth.

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Truth, What's going on Paratruthers. Welcome to a brand new

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episode of Paratruth Reborn. My name is Justin and I'm Eric,

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and we are so happy to be back with you again.

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Spooky season is technically over, but for us, the spooky

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season never ends. Today we are talking to Shonda Parkinson

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about her book, The Book of Ritual Baths. Make sure

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I get that tight.

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Right, be right there if you're watching YouTube.

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Shanda utilizes her spirit gifts, tarot and astrology to support

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others through transition in life with clarity and deep compassion.

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Author of the award winning Meditations for Psychic Development Practical

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Exercise to Awaken your Sixth Sense, Shonda's fiercely committed to

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mentoring others in the discovery of their own spiritual gifts. Shanda,

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Welcome to Paratruth Reborn And how's it going.

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It's going great. It's so happy to be here and

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talk to you guys this evening.

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Yeah, it's going to be an interesting one because I

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mentioned last week that I use bath as a meditation,

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just assault bath now. So it was interesting to see

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a book written by some for something like that. But

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what got you into writing this book? What got you

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started with it?

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Yeah, Well, besides the topic being super duper personal, I've

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like developed a really cool relationship with my publisher and

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my acquisitions editor, who you know occasionally will spit b

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all ideas and when I'm in between projects, you know,

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talk about what, you know, what their readers are interested in,

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what is like really popular right now, but also what

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kind of merges with my own practices and passions and this.

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You know, the book of ritual bass. Ritual bass isn't

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something that I you know, I practice professionally. It's a

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very personal process. But I was intrigued by the project

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because it was going to give me the opportunity to

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actually interview other professionals in the field, do some exploration,

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travel around and try out some things, and actually kind

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of gather the research for this book. So it was

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a very different entry point for the book, and I

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I got super excited about it. I birthed twice in

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a tub, and I think that that is an incredibly

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sacred process and a very ritualistic process. And so, like

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I said, I have very personal relationship with ritual ritual bath,

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which I learned talking to people about it. Lots of

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people have a personal relationship with that as well, and

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it means different things to different people.

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So yeah, well, you know one thing that I felt

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really fascinating about this now, mind you, Like Justin and

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I have been kind of in this this field for

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roughly twenty plus years, and it was only two years

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ago that a friend of mine, a reiki master, who

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actually introduced me to the idea of ritualistic bathing primarily

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to cleanse the day away, you know, and reset. And

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I was like, how come I never even thought about that,

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let alone learn about it, you know, so it was

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like kind of new to me. So of course, yeah,

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reading through this book, was really fascinated just to lend

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the various aspects of what is potentially possible when it

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comes to ritualistic cleansing and bathing. But now you had

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mentioned here a couple of times about your personal journey

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and how it personally or how it's personal to you,

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But what specifically, how specifically I guess, does it relate

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to your personal spiritual journey and like, how did it

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all begin for you and what led you on this

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kind of augment path to aside from just writing the book,

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but just to learn and grow in the idea of

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ritual paths.

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Well, I hit a similar experience to you on Novetor's

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back where I was actually in counseling for anxiety and

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my counselor suggested that I consider including some type of

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soothing bath practice and pointed me in some different direct

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and so initially it was an exploration around like how

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to balance my nervous system. So then I suddenly suddenly

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sparked this idea like, oh my gosh, they're hugely uh

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physical impacts you know to ritual bath that that I

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didn't even realize existed when I started to dive into

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the science of it. And so that was actually my

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entry point and then it just blossomed from there. I'm

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also a practicing which and so I started to play

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with this idea, like I wonder how ritual bath could

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actually be shaped sort of like the cauldron of your intentions,

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you know, when you go into a sacred space like that.

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And I started to play with it, and it was

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pretty mind blowing, like what was happening and and help

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phenomenal The experiences were becoming, I mean, accessing the supernatural,

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you know, having experiences of like inner visions, you know,

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having a spiritual guide come and connect with me, you know,

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I mean it was it was pretty wild and so yeah,

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this was definitely a good a good topic and a

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good kit for me.

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Awesome.

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Well, now, why do you think water specifically has such

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a deep spiritual significance across cultures.

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I think it does because it is so ancient and

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it's so universal. You know, we all have access to

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it in some way, shape or form. We depend on

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it for life. Our bodies are made up of water,

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and so the yeah, definite connections, ethno religious connections across cultures.

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It has held a deep spiritual significance. It's ancient. Uh,

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goes all the way back to the Hammams in the

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Islam religion. It it goes all the way through to

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Judaism with a mikvah. It is.

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People have met communally in bathing spaces because that's how

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they cleanse themselves and then they would join together in

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some type of a sacred practice. So it is water

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is seen has been seen as a purification. You know,

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it's it's deeply ancient. And then also we have the

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nods to pagan practices to water priests and priestesses who

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guard and protect our waterways. I mean, it's it holds

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such a phenomenal significance that isn't just linked to one

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particular like we can't really find the origin of it.

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It is so vast and so deep across.

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So yeah, you know, one thing that I find really

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interesting about water too. Obviously, it is not just the

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fact it's a life source and like every living creature

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craves it and needs it to survive. But what I

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find really fascinating also is the emotional impact that water

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tends to have on people. And speaking both from stories

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I've heard, but even from my own personal experience. You know,

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when I'm taking a shower, especially or a bath, but

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typically I don't do that, but usually a shower, you know,

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it kind of releases emotions that I don't expect to

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be released, you know, And I'm very strong headed. I'm

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one of those who don't handle emotions well. I tend

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to keep them buried and push down, you know, not healthy.

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Everybody who's listening, seek therapy, here's something I need to do.

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But you know, when I step into a shower, it's

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like all of those things that have been pushing down

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is just I can't. It's just the water pulls it

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out and leases it, which I think is just you know,

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it's just it's so much deeper than just the fact

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that it's living. Well, you know, this is something that

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hits us in a much deeper, spiritual, more emotional way. Also,

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you know, I mean we even have like the idea

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of water. We use it kind of metaphorically. We talk

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about how emotions or pain things like that come in waves,

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and water is something that typically you know, forms waves.

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So it's just really really interesting to me that it's

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as broad as it is in terms of just what

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it's capable of. Now, one thing I do want to

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ask though, because the book does say ritual baths, and

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so what I want to know is what really makes

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a bath a ritual versus just simply relax and relaxing soak.

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Yeah, that's a good question. So the moment you step

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into a space, and I'm speaking specifically from like my

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practice as a witch, you know, the moment I step

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into a space, no matter where I am. If I'm

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in my room, if I'm in my kitchen, if I'm

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at my hearth, I if I'm outside in nature. The

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moment you step into a space with a particular energy,

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a set energy where your head and your heart are

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connected and for an intention of some type of release

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or manifestation or promoting an energy of some kind and

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drawing it to yourself, that's the moment it becomes a

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sacred space. And so whether you are someone who has

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a bathronot and you know, I would like to talk

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about like the fact that you don't need to have

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a tub, you don't have to own a tub. Maybe

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you're just a shower guy, you know, or maybe you

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have some way that you can basin bathe or focus

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on other bathing practices that don't require a tub. But

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the moment you step in to that space, you are

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activating that sacred space and grounding yourself in it. And

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the even even the steps that in processes that you

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go to to gather your tools and clear the space

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and prepare yourself mentally and spiritually to get into a bath,

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you are already beginning the ritual process. So it turns

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it transforms it from just like a routine part of

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your life to something that is very sacred and and

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it's simple, but it's very powerful.

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Yeah, Now, I'm sure everybody's going to ask this question,

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how can you know somebody get started incorporating ritual stick

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baths into their daily or even weekly lives.

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I feel like simple as best, and I really can't

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start usless enough, and it's stressed a lot in the

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book as well. To start small and expand outward. So

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if your thing is herbs, start with one. You know,

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pick something that's super relaxing that makes you feel happy

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when you take it out of the big and hold

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it in your hand and smell it. It relaxes you,

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it calms you. Start with one. Start with an herb.

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If you like to have candles in your bathroom and

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in your bathritual because you really connect with the element

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of fire, choose a candle color that really fires you up,

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lights you, that makes you feel happy. Yellow or a

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red or a pink candle burning can do a lot

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for a ritual bath. Also, prepare your space like you

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mean it. You know what I mean, Like, like, we

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know what a lot of bathrooms look like. Okay, maybe

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not everybody's bathroom looks like my bathroom, but you know

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I have four people let live in my house, and

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so I need to go in there periodically and like, Okay, yeah,

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I'm going to clear and cleanse the space. I'm going

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to declutter the space, like I'm really preparing the space.

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So it's just really about preparation. It's about choosing one

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or two things that really light you up. If you're

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a crystals person, you're just starting to dabble on crystals,

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get yourself a clear quartz that you can drop in

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the water safely. You know, just start start simple, Start simple.

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Get something a basket or a container to kind of

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hold everything in so that you have a place you

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can tuck it away and it's easy to bring out.

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I think that's sometimes in practice as a ritual practices.

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I think sometimes people get really overwhelmed, Like if I

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don't figure out this big thing, you know, with all

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the tools and the bells and the whistles, and I

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need to go and order all these herbs and salts

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and fancy things, you'd need nothing fancy to make this

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an effective part of your spiritual practice. So start really basic,

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Start simple. I feel like I want to encourage salts.

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For most people. Sometimes it's some type of salts, because

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salts in itself is also extremely purifying as a substance,

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and it also browns the energy. So like let's say

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you're going into your bath with maybe some grief or

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some emotion, or you've just dealt with a breakup or

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your you know, you want to bring in some protection.

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Going in with some salts in your bath, to me

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serves a dual purpose. One, it's going to absolutely ground

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the energy that you're bringing into that practice, in that craft,

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in that sacred space. And also it's going to further

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help you kind of detox and kind of help remove

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or help release energy from your aura. And so that's

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those those are really basic things. Do not overdo it.

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It's not necessary.

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Yeah, okay, yeah, I remember my friend when she told

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me about it her she said the same thing. Keep

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it simple, she Get yourself a bar of charcoal soap

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and start there.

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It's super super purifying. Yeah, that's great. You just feel

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it can feel a lot lighter. Also, like dead dead

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sea mineral salts. I also like feel because that ties

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in a little bit of the physical benefits as well.

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going to also infuse your body and put really good

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stuff because you're because the organ is your skin. And

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so if the dead sea minerals are actually infusing your

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skin with all kinds of really good minerals, that's also

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going to give your body a boost, because I go

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to make it feel really really good.

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So no, Now for individuals who maybe kind of overthink

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things a little bit, I know you just said, hey,

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let's keep things simple, But especially coming from like someone

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like yourself who is a practicing witch, there obviously is

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a lot of meaning to various herbs and this idea

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of color theory, especially when it comes to candles and

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the type of color of candle you're using.

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How important is that in ritualistic bass or is it

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something that's like, don't think so much about that in

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the beginning. Just choose your favorite color, choose your favorite sense,

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regardless of what it means.

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of just choose whatever you're drawn to kind of although

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you know, I don't like to keep I'm not a

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gatekeeper for anybody's practice. Your practice is your practice, so

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you do you, But like also like the colors the

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candles that or the herbs are and crystals do have

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you know, they do have meanings. So to me, it's

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like if you can find yourself, like we don't have

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to be a purist, you don't have to do it

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by the book, but if you have can develop a

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little bit of some basic knowledge and understanding about how

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it works, or which colors in which stones, which herbs

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are a good fit or a good match for a

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particular let's say, a particular sabot or a particular seasonal

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change of the season. So when I think about when

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I think about choosing your tools, for me, a really

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basic and really simple entry point is also to think

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about grouping seasonal change times of year and then curing

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your herbs and your crystals around that. So like for

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let's say, for example, we're now in we're past Maybon,

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we're into almost a solnd now, and so this time

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of year is a darker time of year, We're going

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into some inward spaces, and so the herbs or flower essences,

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essential oils, whatever botanicals you want to work with that

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kind of correspond with a seasonal change can give you

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that framework that don't make it so overwhelming, doesn't make

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its overwhelming so you're not going in every time you

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have a bath going oh my gosh, what do I choose?

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Well this time of year great things to work with

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are mug art, I mean we are you know, it

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helps us cross the veil. It helps us really connect

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with our ancestors. So keeping it and framing it around

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the seasonal change is really helpful. Things like cornflour and

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marigold are great for prosperity, and those associate with this

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time of year as well. So like into the winter months,

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you know, as we get into Embulk, as we get

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to Doyle, you'll and then in Bulk we can lean

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on the more wintry herbs and plant friends like oh, basil, bailey, rosemary, pine,

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even cedar, and just doing things like milk thistle and

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cammam miles. So like if you can kind of have

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a grouping of maybe a few that you work with

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at a seasonal change and even keep it to like

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four times a year, these are the things. And I'm

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going to kind of check in and then check in

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and see how you feel, like which one are you

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being drawn to? Like I may not be feeling the

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corne flower, I might not be feeling the mugwort today,

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but I might be feeling you know, the marrigold today,

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So feeling out, like definitely feeling out like what you need.

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As you develop a relationship with your bath practice, your

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body is going to start telling you what it wants

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and what it needs, and that's kind of where the

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magic happens, and that's where some of the intuition comes

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into play. So as you develop sort of a relationship

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with your bath practice and some longevity with it, you

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will find that there are just there are times of year,

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times of the month that you want something different, and

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also thinking about like your mood and how you're coming

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into the space, because this is very different than some

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other practices, other spiritual practices, like you have to do

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a check in. You really have to check with yourself,

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like where am I coming into this space right now?

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What do I need right now? You know, whether or

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not has to do with a seasonal thing, but where

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am I at right now? What is gonna? What? I

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need something gright, I need something beautiful. I need my camfile,

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I need my you know, I need my milk thistle.

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I need something soothing and nurturing. So once you know

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what you're coming in for and what you need. You

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can kind of navigate better, navigate like the tools and

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and what you're going to bring into the space, and

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sometimes it's nothing. So I also want to I also

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want to like and want your listeners to also know that,

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like you can go into those spaces with yourself and

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your you know, your emotions, your mud, your intentions, your

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your heart, what's going on, and your insides, and you

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can still come out feeling amazing.

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You know. Yeah, I find like one of the most

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simple ways to do one of those type of a

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bathing rituals is to just stand in the water and

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envision whatever's bothering you, whatever's heavy on your shoulders simply

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being washed away and just imagine it rolling down your

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body and into the drain and disappearing. And it's so

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much easier and it helps lighten you a bit. But

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then adding all the other stuff, of course obviously has

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its place and its importance as you grow in your

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practice as well. One follow up question for you though,

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regarding all of that, So for people who are interested

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though in like understanding the meaning behind some of the

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items that they're going to use, the herbs, how important

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is it to actually cross reference some of the descriptions

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of these items. Is because a lot of people go

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online and unfortunately, people go to redd it a lot,

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and there's a lot of misinformation or Wikipedia. Uh so, yeah,

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so what are your thoughts on that and what's the.

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Best I really think it's a good idea to get

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a couple of compendiums, you know, like witches compendiums or

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herbal compendiums. Also because safety is definitely something you want

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to consider, you know, when you're working with all of this,

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and you're right, there's a lot of mixed messages and misinformation.

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So getting a couple of really good compendiums. I'm sorry,

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don't have them up here. I'm looking at my bookshelf.

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Oh no, I changed my mind. I do. I do

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have one, you know, like a encyclopedia of magical plants,

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for example. This is going to tell you the correspondences,

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and it's going to give you some information about safety

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things you want to think about, like for example, heck, yeah,

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you know, I'm not going to toss eucalyptus or peppermint

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or you know that spicier verb. And even though I

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love using cinnamon for prosperity, it's not going anywhere near

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my skin, you know, because it burns. And so yeah,

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you definitely want to get you want to get familiar

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enough and with the you know, cosmology of the plants

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and also like how they work in our skin and

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how they transfer between the water and our bodies and

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how they feel, do you know what I'm saying? And

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so like, I don't think you can't not work with

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a cinnamon stick, but just put it in your tea

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and have a cup of tea handy while you're bathing

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and stir your little cinnamon stick for prosperity and your

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tea and drink it while you're soaking, do you know,

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So like you can still like there's still a lot

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of flexibility. But yeah, I really, I really feel like

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online's not the best route. Get yourself a good couple

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of compendiums that you can lean back on, dog ear

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the pages, learn a little bit of about what each

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of the herbs and crystals means. As a framework, just

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a basic framework, and then it becomes a passion, and

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then it's something that you can keep adding to as

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you go. And also like I you know, a grimmore

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keeping a grimore or a little notebook or a keeping

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tracks somewhere of like, hey, I did this ritual bath

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and like I had a vision and here's what was

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in it, Here's what went into the bath, and this

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like helps me, or it helped me relax, and like

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I suddenly something shifted and I felt like super refreshed,

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or I had an idea that hit me and this

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was really creatively inspiring. Keep track of what you're using

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because some things are going to work for you that

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don't work for other people, depending on your energy and

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how your energy engages with you know, the herbs and

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the tools that you bring in, the botanicals that you

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bring in. Yeah.

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Now, something that Eric mentioned is intention when he's showering.

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How important is intention in this process and how should

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someone set their intention before beginning?

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Yeah, it is. I think it is really important to

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set an intention. And sometimes the intention is I just

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this is a step in my day. I got to

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get through and I just need to get through and

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get in my show. But like you know, other times,

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somebody's going to come in with a little bit more,

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and so yeah, I do feel like that initial that

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initial legwork and really distinguishing like what is the most

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needed because we also have to include that. Like there

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are other bath types of bath rituals. There are cold plunges.

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There are base and bass where you don't submerge your body,

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just your hands or your feet go in. There's moon

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bathing where you can sit outside and bathe under the moon.

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There's steam sounda is, there's sound bathing. So like this

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is kind of the Pandora's box of practices that you

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can really craft and create to meet your own needs.

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And so yeah, I do think that self reflection is

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going to help you be really particular about what you need.

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Like if I'm if I'm a crying mess and I'm

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dealing with something really deep and emotional, i am not

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going into the cold plunge that's going to be could

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you know. But like if I'm dealing with some anxiety

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or I had a really intense day, the cold plunge

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is going to be the thing that just takes the

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edge off to bring me and pull me back into

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my body and get me grounded and help set my

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mind straight, you know what I mean. So, like thinking

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about your intention and setting your intention to me is

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just as simple as writing it down. It's as simple

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as writing it down or create as symbol and drawing

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it on your wrist, or taking some oils and herbs

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and salts and drawing a sigil on the bottom of

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your tub, but before you get in that represents something

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you're dealing with, before you even run the water, like,

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you can create a sigil that you can draw on

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your body or on the tub. And that's one of

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my favorites. And I've taught my kids how to do

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that as well, because they go to ritual baths when

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they are dealing with big things. So you can draw

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an infinity symbol. If you're dealing you want to work

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with prosperity, you can draw infinity symbol in the water

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while you sit in the water. Take a little bag

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of herbs and just run it through the water or

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with your hands and draw the infinity symbol as you

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kind of focus your intentions. And water naturally helps you

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raise energy, and so when you get in the water

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or you're standing under the water, you can naturally work

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with that.

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And so I do.

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I really think it's it's great for any practice, but

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in a ritual practice like this, to come in with

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some idea, particular idea or intension I think really helps

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the process, It focuses the energy and helps you get

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a lot more out of it.

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Okay, Well, so with that said, and you had mentioned,

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you know, bathing for like grief or even emotional blockages,

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but like, how does one well, and put it this way,

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it's very difficult for many people to really understand how

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to release their grief or even how to find a

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way through emotional blockages. So how, in your opinion or

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in your experience, can some maybe use ritual bathing to

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actually find a way to release that grief or find

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a way through those emotional blockages when it's just so

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hard on a daily basis to begin with.

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Yeah, Well, and one of the hardest things, of course

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that we face as oh, busy people and in a

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very unsteady, uncertain world right now, is taking time to

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honor the grief that we experience. We are all dealing

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with some type of grief on a regular basis, and

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we don't have endless time to like just grapple or

469
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:28.119
deal with that those emotional spaces and what we're going through,

470
00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:34.920
and so setting that time aside. Grief is one emotion

471
00:29:35.079 --> 00:29:40.599
that we can actually intentionally work with and that we

472
00:29:40.680 --> 00:29:44.319
can actually transmute and help transform. Like we can actually

473
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:47.960
go into spaces of grief. So when you get into

474
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:51.400
a bath, let's say we choose some type of warming

475
00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:53.960
bath that has some herbs in it to help soothe

476
00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:58.480
our hearts. What happens is we relax our nervous systems.

477
00:29:58.759 --> 00:30:02.119
When our nervous system is relaxed, that's when we can

478
00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:07.359
start to surface the emotional oh gosh, components of what

479
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:10.160
we've been dealing with that we've been stuffing or avoiding,

480
00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:14.440
or resisting or just can't touch. Not everybody deals with

481
00:30:14.839 --> 00:30:21.039
emotion is easily, you know, And so really providing yourself

482
00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:24.960
that space and saying, okay, for fifteen minutes, I'm going

483
00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:28.440
to go in. If I have just like one release

484
00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:31.240
point or if I give myself that space just to

485
00:30:31.240 --> 00:30:34.880
touch that grief, let myself think about it, let myself

486
00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:39.599
presents it. It's getting present in that grief space, then

487
00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:41.799
I can have a moment to release and the water

488
00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:44.200
is going to help, the tools are going to help

489
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:47.400
release it for the moment that I'm in. You know,

490
00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:49.559
grief is a journey. It's a process. It's not like

491
00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:52.559
it's a one and done. That isn't how healing works.

492
00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:57.160
But we can give ourselves that space intentionally to deal

493
00:30:57.200 --> 00:31:00.160
with grief. Then when we're living our lives, if we

494
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:02.079
don't want to go there, we don't want to turn

495
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:04.160
towards it, we don't want to deal with it on

496
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:07.160
a regular basis, we don't want you know, we want

497
00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:11.599
to preserve that time just for going into a grief

498
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:17.200
space that can be really super effective and super cleansing

499
00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:17.960
mm hmm.

500
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:21.359
And it's really just building a safe space for you

501
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:25.279
to do that, someplace you can be comfortable, totally safe space.

502
00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:29.680
And also along that line, like not everybody is comfortable

503
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:33.119
in the water, So I also want to say, like

504
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:37.960
you want to develop a ritual baths baths practice, but

505
00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:40.519
you aren't somebody who wants to take your clothes off

506
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:42.839
and get in the water. You don't have to do that.

507
00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:45.559
Like you can still use a bathtub, you can still

508
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.359
use that sphere. Maybe you just dip your feet in

509
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:52.000
or you stay closed, you know, so you can Like

510
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:56.319
they're so okay, don't want everyone And it's so cool

511
00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:59.599
to be talking to two men that are like, tell

512
00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:03.559
me about ritual bath because I think, like also like

513
00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:07.279
this isn't something that necessarily gets focused on and I

514
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:09.799
really you know by that, and I appreciate that, Like,

515
00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:14.079
this is for everyone. This is not just for you know,

516
00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:16.599
women or women of a certainty or you know what

517
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:20.359
I mean, or as spiritual ladies. This is for everyone,

518
00:32:20.680 --> 00:32:25.720
and it I feel like giving men a chance to

519
00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:29.279
touch their sensitive sides and really connect with their own

520
00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:34.559
hearts and really develop that as on, that healthy relationship

521
00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:38.279
with their masculinity, this can help a lot. Ritual bath

522
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:38.920
can help a lot.

523
00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:43.000
So for sure. Yeah, well, and I appreciate you saying

524
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:46.680
that because I've never been a bad person. My wife

525
00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:50.160
always has been. So when I take a bath, it's

526
00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:57.039
the intention of grounding myself and trying to meditate and yeah,

527
00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:01.279
what have you over just sitting in a bath. She

528
00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:07.440
probably unintentionally does that as well, but she bathes. But

529
00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:12.240
it is interesting that there is kind of that gap

530
00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:19.240
in between men and women too, that it's not as

531
00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:23.160
accepted that men like taking baths or should be taking

532
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:30.960
a bath for ritualistic pursus if nothing else. So right on, now,

533
00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:34.200
I know my answer to this, but I really want

534
00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:37.920
to hear your perspective on it. Is, do you think

535
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:41.960
ritual baths can strengthen intuition? Or psychic awareness.

536
00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:49.480
Yes, I'm so happy to talk about this because holy cow, guys,

537
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:52.119
if I could say, you know how many times I've

538
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:55.400
been in a original bath experience, It's one place that

539
00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:59.200
my inner vision opens the most. And so if I'm

540
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:04.440
like really seeking something, some guidance, some something that my

541
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:09.039
relationship with my ritual bath, getting in there, relaxing my senses,

542
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:14.400
really like tuning into my chakras, opening my energy fields,

543
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:19.760
really getting in that space, it totally enhances. I instantly

544
00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:23.400
start to feel vibrational energy around my third eye and

545
00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:29.440
my crown chakra and connecting. I've had whole conversations with

546
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:34.159
guide energies or ancestors and it's brought me back to

547
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:39.760
my center and given me some direction forwards. So it

548
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:42.400
is not uncommon to find a deck of Tarot cards

549
00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:46.440
also in my in my bathroom. My kids are like,

550
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:47.519
what is going on?

551
00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:49.719
Are they.

552
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:54.000
Need waterproof?

553
00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:54.960
Yes, we do.

554
00:34:55.159 --> 00:34:58.599
Anybody that I could get on that so we can.

555
00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:01.559
We also need dog care proof because my one dog

556
00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:03.639
tore up a deck of my cards, so that can't

557
00:35:03.679 --> 00:35:05.800
be well spear proof.

558
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:08.559
Those are gonna be pricey cards. I have a eru,

559
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:12.079
but yeah, yes, I also have a dog. So yeah,

560
00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:15.599
so like it is, it is a very natural gateway

561
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:19.639
like okay, so to be fair like also around the world,

562
00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:22.760
it is honored that like cavernous spaces where there is

563
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:26.639
water is like a portal. It's a gateway and to

564
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:31.039
other dimensions, other realms. Crossing the veil is very easy

565
00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:34.119
when you are in that space because the element water

566
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:37.719
connects us into those spaces a lot deeper. And so

567
00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:42.719
if you're somebody who enjoys going inward to connect you,

568
00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:46.960
like I said, with guides or deities, or connecting in

569
00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:52.880
with ancestral energies, you can channel energy. Water is such

570
00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:58.840
a beautiful conduit for spirit energy, and so it's a

571
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:02.960
great space to build your your psychic abilities for sure.

572
00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:05.000
And I can vouch for that.

573
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:10.679
So I can too. A mentor of mine actually had

574
00:36:11.199 --> 00:36:16.880
told me to start doing bast with sea salt specifically

575
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:23.000
I was in Nebraska, had COVID, but I also really

576
00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:26.559
wanted to use it as a way to ground myself

577
00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:29.079
and start connecting with my spirit guys, because I have

578
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:34.000
a hard time differentiating what's in my head. Is it

579
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:36.960
spirit talking to me or is it me imagining spirit

580
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:42.360
is talking to me? But she had said specifically sea

581
00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:46.159
salt over epsom salt, because it's a completely different chemical reaction.

582
00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:51.599
Yes, that's accurate. That is very very accurate. And like

583
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:55.639
magnesium salts or sea salt or excuse me up some salts. Yeah,

584
00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:59.119
very different function than something like that. That's a pure

585
00:36:59.199 --> 00:37:01.719
salt that can actually it does serve a purpose to

586
00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:06.519
help open up your senses, your psychic senses. Yeah, extrasensory

587
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:09.559
perception can happen in those spaces quite easily. And then

588
00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:14.320
toss in an amethyst or a clear quartz crystal or

589
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:17.960
you know, some herbs or oils that can help build that.

590
00:37:18.039 --> 00:37:21.280
Some mugwort, oh yeah, heck yeah, getting a little tea

591
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:24.599
big running under your faucet that has some herbs that

592
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:27.960
can also really relax and help you lean into your

593
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:32.239
third eye, into your psychic senses. I'm all about Yeah,

594
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:34.960
I'm all about the mug where bay leaves. Those are

595
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:38.519
great for helping enhance your sec vision.

596
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:41.360
Okay, yeah, I.

597
00:37:41.320 --> 00:37:44.880
Do want to add and get your thought on it too.

598
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:49.599
But so I'm that one who has ever used ritual

599
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:52.920
bathing in the in this sense and actually getting into

600
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:56.079
a bath or a shower to build or strengthen intuition

601
00:37:56.199 --> 00:38:00.519
or psychic awareness. However, one thing that I do do

602
00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:09.880
often is I was trying to think, like, how can

603
00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:12.039
I get around saying this twice? But I couldn't do.

604
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:14.679
Okay, I had just throwing a potty joke because we're

605
00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:20.760
in the bathroom.

606
00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:22.639
Okay, free back.

607
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:25.880
How do you even recover from the room?

608
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:28.440
Uh?

609
00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:33.039
What I happened to do is a meditation in which

610
00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:36.840
I envisioned starlight shining down over my head, and that

611
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:41.199
start light turns into a shimmery kind of liquid that

612
00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:44.039
washes down over at the top of me and gathers

613
00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:46.519
around my body and at my feet, and then I

614
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:49.639
meditate on the puddle that's at my feet, which to

615
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:53.360
me is like this black almost like sparkly. It's not oily,

616
00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:55.239
but it's I don't know. To me, it's just like

617
00:38:55.400 --> 00:38:58.480
dark black, but it's like reflective and it's got these

618
00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:00.440
sparkles in it and allows me to kind of see

619
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:05.920
my shadow self while also looking into various spirit guides

620
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:10.000
and asking questions and learning about things that I'm trying to,

621
00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:14.360
you know, gain insight on. So what is your thought

622
00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:16.880
on doing a meditation like that as opposed to simply

623
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:20.519
physically being in a bath or doing like moonlight bathing

624
00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:21.320
or things like that.

625
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:25.280
Oh my gosh, well that I'm very envious. That should

626
00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:27.320
have gone in the book, you know, a Sean Like

627
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:29.880
I wish I knew you back when, because that should

628
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:32.119
have been an exercise to go in the book.

629
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:34.159
But like it can be an ad.

630
00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:41.519
And an addendum what the next printing right credit to you.

631
00:39:41.760 --> 00:39:47.480
But seriously, like that is a fabulous example of something

632
00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:50.760
that can be done. And you were not just in

633
00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:54.679
the presence of water. So like in a meditation space,

634
00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:58.280
you absolutely can create a connection with the element of

635
00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:02.440
water or like a bath light or like a do

636
00:40:02.599 --> 00:40:05.719
that even that visualization while you're sitting under the moon

637
00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:09.280
and connecting in with the moon's energy and so connecting

638
00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:13.519
in with moon energy is incredibly cleansing. It's incredibly sustaining

639
00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:20.320
and purifying. And so I absolutely agree with that incorporating

640
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:23.159
that even in your in your bath or in your shower,

641
00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:26.800
or if you are fortunate enough to stand under a waterfall,

642
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:30.280
even if not the if you're somewhere and you need

643
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:33.800
a cleansing process and there's no water around or nothing

644
00:40:33.840 --> 00:40:37.320
else in sight, you can still do some type of

645
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:39.960
cleansing process and you can use that. And I love

646
00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:44.519
the imagery of having that pool under your feet that

647
00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:48.440
connects you between the bridge of the earth and your feet,

648
00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:51.719
and that can bring in earth energy and help round

649
00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:55.440
you and help you can like release the energy into

650
00:40:55.480 --> 00:40:58.199
that puddle that you want to release and have it

651
00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:02.000
slowly sink into the earth safely. I mean, you could

652
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:05.960
go multiple different directions with that, but I think that's

653
00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:07.840
a fantastic suggestion.

654
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:09.360
Awesome.

655
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:17.199
Now, what would you say to people who think they

656
00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:19.199
don't have time for ritual baths?

657
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:27.679
Well, you you know, ten minutes. You've got ten minutes.

658
00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:30.519
You know, Like, here's the thing with even a foot

659
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:35.440
bath or a basin bath. You can keep some of

660
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:39.760
your basin bath or a cauldron with energy in it,

661
00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:42.280
with herbs, with oils and so on and so forth.

662
00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:44.440
You can keep that and move it from room to

663
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:47.360
room and dip your hands in it. That doesn't take

664
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:50.639
more than five minutes. Set your intention, ground your body,

665
00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:54.159
and set your intentions and put your hand or your

666
00:41:54.280 --> 00:41:57.159
hands or your feet into a base. I mean, so

667
00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:01.320
I get it. We are all so busy people, and

668
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:04.920
you don't have to make this an hour long or

669
00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:08.079
two hour long process. I don't actually advise that. I

670
00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:10.800
think it's a little tough and a little hard on

671
00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:14.480
your skin sometimes to go that long. But I'm serious,

672
00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:18.800
like five to ten minutes, five to ten minutes, just

673
00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:23.480
get in, set your intentions, do your meditation, connect with

674
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:28.440
the energy of the water, breathe release, boom, You're done.

675
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:34.519
And so keeping it simple, keeping it simple, saving maybe

676
00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:37.960
a once a month full moon bath that's a little

677
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:41.239
bit longer, but keeping the rest of your practice short

678
00:42:41.360 --> 00:42:46.960
or simple. I think that's perfect. And like tonight, for example,

679
00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:49.719
I will maybe shower and head out to my cold

680
00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:52.440
plunge before I go to bed. I have at abundance

681
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:54.920
of joyful energy today, but I'm going to need to

682
00:42:54.960 --> 00:42:58.800
bring the adrenaline down, and so the cold plunge will

683
00:42:58.840 --> 00:43:01.400
help me do that. I'll give thanks to the sky,

684
00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:04.360
to the moon for being able to talk to you

685
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:09.440
and having a really good day. And that's it. It's

686
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:12.679
it's literally under a minute that I'll spend out there

687
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:18.079
just thinking, yeah, thanking the cosmos, thanking the moon. So

688
00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:25.079
it I appreciate that, and I uh empathize with the

689
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:28.280
time element that is involved in any kind of craft

690
00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:32.480
or practice, but you work it into your your routines

691
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:34.360
and suddenly it starts to become a little bit of

692
00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:36.800
a habit. So maybe you have a weekly ritual on

693
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:41.679
Sunday afternoon, nobody gets into the bathroom, you lock the door,

694
00:43:41.800 --> 00:43:44.000
and you have your ritual space to do your thing,

695
00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:47.280
you know, Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

696
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:49.239
You know. One other thing I'd like to add that

697
00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:52.320
I personally do and that I personally enjoyed, And it's

698
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:55.559
not so much bathing per se, but it's still using

699
00:43:55.800 --> 00:43:59.800
like I call it elemental meditation, and it's basically using

700
00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:02.760
things like water or fire. And for me, the fire

701
00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:06.119
element I'm very much associated with. It's one of my

702
00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:08.679
you know. And so what I'll do is I'll light

703
00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:11.840
a candle and I'll just hold it somewhat close, maybe

704
00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:13.840
a foot away from me, maybe a little closer, and

705
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:16.280
just stare at the flame and just focus on the flame.

706
00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:18.199
And you do the same thing with water. You fill

707
00:44:18.239 --> 00:44:20.679
up a bowl or you know, a basin or something,

708
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:22.239
and you just watch it and you look at the

709
00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:25.119
ripples in the water, the reflection, the movements, as you know,

710
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:27.840
and you just try to clear your mind and focus

711
00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:31.440
on what's happening and you kind of build this connection

712
00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:34.159
with the element that you're holding in your hand, and

713
00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:36.800
it helps you to kind of recenter yourself and even

714
00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:40.360
around yourself in that particular element. And it's not you know,

715
00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:43.280
obviously it's not bathing, but for people who don't like

716
00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:46.719
to get wet necessarily or you know, put their hands

717
00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:48.719
in the water. You know, if I pick up a

718
00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:50.480
bowl or you know, fill a bowl of water and

719
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:52.920
put on my table, my cat's dipping his paws in

720
00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:54.960
there and it's going everywhere, right, So I can't do

721
00:44:55.119 --> 00:44:57.679
that because he's like, oh, this is a game. No,

722
00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:01.440
we can't do this. But you know, for people who

723
00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:04.559
don't like to, who don't have the time and they

724
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:06.559
don't want to get wet or you know, things like that,

725
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:08.480
but they want to find a way to center themselves.

726
00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:12.239
I do think that doing some sort of elemental meditation,

727
00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:14.519
even going outside and watching or look out to window,

728
00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:17.360
watch the trees, the leaves move back and forth, and

729
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:20.239
you see and focus on the movements that are happening,

730
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:23.199
you start to kind of connect and center yourself to

731
00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:26.400
the earth and the elements that you're basically your body's

732
00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:26.920
made up of.

733
00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:30.280
And also, like when you were talking and also made

734
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:33.800
me think of like what it's like to sit like

735
00:45:33.840 --> 00:45:37.119
we have all this amazing technology. We have apps, we

736
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:43.800
have meditation apps, we have also like crystal bull healing meditations, crystals.

737
00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:50.159
Sound sound bathing is just as relevant a form of bathing.

738
00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:52.880
And so you want to lay on your bed and

739
00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:58.079
put your noise canceling headphones on and listen to you know,

740
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:02.000
the gongs or sound bulls or excuse excuse me, singing

741
00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:05.960
bulls and you lay there and you imagine those waves

742
00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:09.440
going over your body. You are doing your chakras and

743
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:14.119
your aura some major justice by allowing yourself to tap

744
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:17.039
into that. So, yeah, whether it's a sound vibrations and

745
00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:19.880
then lighting a candle and doing some candle gazing to

746
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:23.000
connect with fire element, especially if you need some energy

747
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:26.599
and you're feeling drained, that's a really good strategy and

748
00:46:26.639 --> 00:46:30.199
a really good way to combine. I like where you're

749
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:33.320
going with this. Or if you need some grounding, you

750
00:46:33.519 --> 00:46:37.239
are pulling out your grounding crystals and stones and or

751
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:41.039
clearing crystals and stones. You need a good crystal clearing,

752
00:46:41.079 --> 00:46:45.559
you're drawing board, you're hematite, or you're pulling some rose

753
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:49.159
quarts around you to clear the energy from the day.

754
00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:50.920
And you can hold that or put it on your

755
00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:55.239
body while you're listening to the sound vibrations rolling over

756
00:46:55.320 --> 00:46:59.800
your body imagining all of that clearing energy. Oh my gosh,

757
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:03.280
you can see that. Like, I don't want to overwhelm people,

758
00:47:03.320 --> 00:47:07.320
but like there is there's so many ways that you

759
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:12.639
can utilize this because it's so versatile and it does

760
00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:17.039
just have to be yeah all you know for sure.

761
00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:21.400
And I also I keep adding, but for those like

762
00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:24.679
who because because the fire element is like so prominent

763
00:47:24.679 --> 00:47:26.840
for me, like for those of you listening who are

764
00:47:26.840 --> 00:47:30.400
associate yourselves with the fire element. You know, one of

765
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:34.400
my favorite crystals or stones is obsidian, black obsidian, and

766
00:47:34.519 --> 00:47:38.079
especially like I have a little pendant, a pretty big

767
00:47:38.119 --> 00:47:40.559
pendant actually that I wear, and once it's like at

768
00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:43.559
your chest, you can just feel it pulling that energy

769
00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:47.360
out and it's like a deep emotional change. It's heavy,

770
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:51.119
I'll admit at times, but it's so good for people

771
00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:54.400
who are associated with the fire element or who just

772
00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:59.880
want that strong energy to help again ground and clear them,

773
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:02.880
but that their emotions and that heavy burdens that they

774
00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:04.360
have on the shoulders well, and.

775
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:09.119
A good way to like focus on which crystals or

776
00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:11.639
stones gemstones you might want to work with, is to

777
00:48:11.719 --> 00:48:15.360
even associate it with your zodiac signs. So if you

778
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:20.000
know what your sign is, you can actually pick some

779
00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:23.079
stout stones and crystals that are related fits. So like

780
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:26.599
the air signs, for example, I'm probably gonna lean more

781
00:48:26.639 --> 00:48:30.679
towards like a smoky quartz or a black tourmaline or yeah,

782
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:35.320
obsidian because of the scattered energy that comes along with

783
00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:37.559
people that have a lot of air in their charts.

784
00:48:38.840 --> 00:48:43.559
Watery folks, I'm gonna lean towards something that is even

785
00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:47.280
similar that you know, super grounding, but also like clear quurts,

786
00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:49.440
so it doesn't overwhelm their energy. Do you know what

787
00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:52.440
I'm saying? Like, if you're somebody who's really super watery

788
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:55.920
and sensitive, you want to pick the stones and crystals

789
00:48:55.920 --> 00:48:57.880
that are going to work with your energy and not

790
00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:02.400
add to what you're trying to kind of release or calm.

791
00:49:03.400 --> 00:49:07.280
So calming stones and crystals. If you're a fiery energy,

792
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:10.280
you know, and you feel like you need to tamp

793
00:49:10.360 --> 00:49:12.239
that or it just kind of kind of gets a

794
00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:14.480
little wild. Your energy gets a little wild at times,

795
00:49:14.599 --> 00:49:17.360
or you're super busy or feeling burnt out, you want

796
00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:20.880
calming stones, you want an adventuring or an amethyst to

797
00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:25.199
calm and soothe. So like this is also like another

798
00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:28.480
entry point is to think about Yeah, just to think

799
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:31.800
about your zodiac sign and like it can help give

800
00:49:31.880 --> 00:49:35.360
you enough like options to begin with, and then you

801
00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:38.159
can start developing a little bit of a relationship with

802
00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:41.719
those tools and decipher whether or not. Like like you said,

803
00:49:41.800 --> 00:49:44.840
when I put that obsidian on me, I can feel

804
00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:48.280
it pulling the energy. If you're sensitive and you feel that,

805
00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:50.440
you're gonna know if you need to pivot if it's

806
00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:53.119
too much and you need to use something. So like

807
00:49:53.239 --> 00:49:59.920
part of ritual bath practices is experimentation and willingness to

808
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:04.480
dry stuff until I get it. So there's nothing that

809
00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:07.079
needs to be perfect about any of this, and it's

810
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:11.360
a holy mess at times because you get the flowers

811
00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:14.159
floating and the things so like good strainers and drain

812
00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:19.920
sure keep your keep your plumbing happy by putting a

813
00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:25.079
good strainer in your tub. Yeah, stuff like that.

814
00:50:25.719 --> 00:50:29.000
Okay, I have another follow up question, Sorry, Justin, I

815
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:31.159
keep I know, I know Justin's ready for to ask

816
00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:33.760
some questions too, but I'm just need more hold on,

817
00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:36.960
So you have been talking a lot about crystals and

818
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:41.880
using stones in your practice. What is the importance then,

819
00:50:42.039 --> 00:50:44.320
when you're using them on a daily basis or near

820
00:50:44.519 --> 00:50:47.840
daily basis to actually take the time to cleanse those stones,

821
00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:49.880
as some of them tend to build energy. And is

822
00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:52.960
it even important if you're using your bath rituals since

823
00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:55.800
water tends to be a cleanser for stones, especially running

824
00:50:55.800 --> 00:50:56.519
water in particular.

825
00:50:56.920 --> 00:50:59.280
Yeah, well, and you I mean another another part of

826
00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:01.639
that is really no in your stones and crystals because

827
00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:04.440
some of them absolutely cannot go and sullater, you know,

828
00:51:05.039 --> 00:51:07.920
otherwise they're going to disintegrate, you know, start to disintegrate.

829
00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:11.880
So know your crystals and stones well and know whether

830
00:51:11.960 --> 00:51:14.440
or not they actually should go in the water. But

831
00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:17.559
in other words, like you can also just like you

832
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:21.440
can also balance them outside and around the hub. You

833
00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:24.280
don't even have to put them in the water. There's

834
00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:26.280
lots of different ways to work with them. If you

835
00:51:26.360 --> 00:51:29.440
want to just hold it in your hand and project

836
00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:31.760
some intention while it runs under the water and then

837
00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:34.840
set it aside. Did that answer your question? I think

838
00:51:34.840 --> 00:51:36.880
I actually just got lost.

839
00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:39.360
And it was yeah, I mean, it's how do you

840
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:42.679
cleanse a stone after it's already.

841
00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:46.159
Yes, so okay, let's say you've you've bathed with it. Absolutely,

842
00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:49.679
it's soaking up your energy, it's connecting with your energy.

843
00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:53.159
So you want to have a regular practice of cleansing,

844
00:51:53.320 --> 00:51:57.960
and the simplest, the most basic, is to put your

845
00:51:57.960 --> 00:52:01.639
crystals out in a window ledge under the moon, especially

846
00:52:01.639 --> 00:52:03.840
the full moon, to kind of clean and cleanse and clear,

847
00:52:04.599 --> 00:52:09.360
give them breaks. I also have had the experiences of

848
00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:14.320
fracturing stones or rocks that I work with, and I

849
00:52:14.440 --> 00:52:18.440
feel like if something fractures or breaks, that is a

850
00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:21.599
signal that it's done, it's done its work, it's done

851
00:52:21.639 --> 00:52:24.559
what it was supposed to do. It helped absorb some

852
00:52:24.679 --> 00:52:27.239
type of energy. It sort of took one for the team.

853
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:31.360
So like, rotate out, don't if you can, If it's

854
00:52:31.400 --> 00:52:34.199
possible to develop a relationship with your tools, like they're

855
00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:37.000
there for a particular reason and purpose, and then sometimes

856
00:52:37.039 --> 00:52:39.920
it's time to them for them to move along. And

857
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:43.239
if something happens to a crystal or stone or you

858
00:52:43.400 --> 00:52:47.760
lose it, which happens a lot, you know, it's just done.

859
00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:51.519
Don't oh ravaging through everything to try to find them.

860
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:55.920
But yeah, cleansing them is really important because even though

861
00:52:55.920 --> 00:52:58.400
they're going to be sitting in salt water or in

862
00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:01.840
a bath with you, they're still absorbing and working with

863
00:53:01.920 --> 00:53:04.360
your energy. So they do need to break They need

864
00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:07.119
to breathe, they need to be treated well. They need

865
00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:11.079
to have a bath under the moon or their own

866
00:53:11.119 --> 00:53:15.400
separate salt bath to clear and cleanse their own energy. Yeah,

867
00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:17.440
I would. I would give that, it would. I would

868
00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:19.079
definitely do that periodically.

869
00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:24.039
Okay, the two part question, So first and foremost in

870
00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:29.239
terms of breaking stones, like I get the idea of

871
00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:32.800
something breaks, you know, out whatever way, whether it's dropped

872
00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:36.599
or it's like you know, it's just worked through, its

873
00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:40.840
its its life. If you will, would you feel the

874
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:44.480
same way if you have a cat who is very

875
00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:48.599
particular and pushing things off the shelves and break stones

876
00:53:48.599 --> 00:53:50.519
because I have a broken stone that he's just like.

877
00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:54.440
Well, yes I do. Because I think our animals, you know,

878
00:53:54.480 --> 00:53:57.599
they're familar, there are little spiritual beings and they work

879
00:53:57.679 --> 00:54:00.480
with us, you know, so if that's if that's happening,

880
00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:04.320
I mean sometimes they're just rascals, but like if they

881
00:54:04.440 --> 00:54:07.960
know and can sense, I think animals are so sensitive

882
00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:12.239
to way more sensitive to energy than we are. And

883
00:54:12.400 --> 00:54:16.280
if something's done and they you know they or they

884
00:54:16.360 --> 00:54:21.440
hide something, I would trust that sometimes the messages that

885
00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:24.920
it's time to move that tool along, and your little

886
00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:28.280
guide or being was helping you out, your little ally

887
00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:31.320
was helping you out to kind of deliver that message

888
00:54:31.360 --> 00:54:34.119
to you that you're done. That's not your tool anymore.

889
00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:38.039
It's time to time to replace it or expand your

890
00:54:38.079 --> 00:54:40.480
horizons and get something else to work with.

891
00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:45.840
Yeah, So second part here you did mention using moonlight

892
00:54:46.079 --> 00:54:50.920
lunar energy basically to cleanse stones. Some people might be like, oh, well,

893
00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:54.000
that's just solar energy reflecting off of the moon. So

894
00:54:54.079 --> 00:54:58.239
what if we just throw our stones into direct sunlight?

895
00:54:58.360 --> 00:55:02.440
Is that effective? And could it be a problem for

896
00:55:02.519 --> 00:55:02.960
your stones?

897
00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:05.880
And I'm sort of like, again, I like to come

898
00:55:05.880 --> 00:55:09.519
into these spaces being like, I'm not gonna keep everybody's

899
00:55:09.559 --> 00:55:11.800
you know, there's no tried and true do you know

900
00:55:13.639 --> 00:55:16.239
the if you think about the energy of the sun

901
00:55:16.360 --> 00:55:18.760
versus the energy of the moon and the bright heat

902
00:55:19.119 --> 00:55:22.159
that can you know? I mean, I mean you would

903
00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:25.679
you like to sit out in the sun yourself and

904
00:55:26.119 --> 00:55:28.800
absorb all of that heat and the intensity of the

905
00:55:28.840 --> 00:55:32.519
Sun's energy versus sitting out under the moon, which is gentle,

906
00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:38.880
nurturing flowing energy also equally powerful. So I feel like

907
00:55:38.960 --> 00:55:41.920
you like some of these things are just like kind

908
00:55:41.920 --> 00:55:44.719
of common sense where you ask yourself, like what kind

909
00:55:44.760 --> 00:55:47.000
of energy do I want to give the tools that

910
00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:49.639
I work with, you know, and if it feels right

911
00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:52.199
that it needs to be sun like I need to

912
00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:57.000
infuse these tools with some sun like really powerful daylight

913
00:55:57.159 --> 00:56:01.760
and energy of the sun, which is really energizing, go

914
00:56:01.880 --> 00:56:04.199
for it, you know, but just be mindful that they're

915
00:56:04.199 --> 00:56:08.239
also like like us. You know, there is a limit,

916
00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:11.559
and there is a point at which too much of

917
00:56:11.639 --> 00:56:13.239
a good thing can be too much of a good thing,

918
00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:16.960
you know, And so it is it to take great

919
00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:22.599
care around around just thinking, being conscious of what you're doing.

920
00:56:22.639 --> 00:56:24.639
But no, I mean, I work with some people that

921
00:56:24.760 --> 00:56:27.039
only connect with the sun. They don't connect with the moon.

922
00:56:27.119 --> 00:56:28.639
And so if that's what you want to do, and

923
00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:32.239
you want to actually infuse your tools with Sun's energy,

924
00:56:32.320 --> 00:56:36.519
absolutely one percent Gofer, But just know that they're sensitive too,

925
00:56:36.760 --> 00:56:39.599
you know, they have limits.

926
00:56:39.199 --> 00:56:42.280
Too, right, And I do want to add too, like

927
00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:48.079
if you are using like sunlight, so pure solar energy,

928
00:56:48.400 --> 00:56:50.920
you don't want to keep it. You know, your stone

929
00:56:50.920 --> 00:56:52.719
sitting in the sun nearly as long as you might

930
00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:57.159
keep it in moonlight. Because some stones can be affected

931
00:56:57.159 --> 00:57:00.440
by ub raised. It could change the properties, the color

932
00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:03.840
and things like that. So that is something that you're

933
00:57:03.880 --> 00:57:06.960
concerned about and just consider when you're working with your stones.

934
00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:11.360
Right on, Can I go now?

935
00:57:11.599 --> 00:57:11.800
Yes?

936
00:57:11.920 --> 00:57:16.719
Sorry?

937
00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:24.519
Something that This is an interesting question for you to answer,

938
00:57:24.599 --> 00:57:29.800
because I'm really intrigued by what you're gonna say. Can

939
00:57:29.920 --> 00:57:32.639
richel bass be part of a couples or even groups

940
00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:35.920
spiritual practice or are they best done alone?

941
00:57:36.599 --> 00:57:40.800
Oh my gosh, Well, communal bathing practices have been done

942
00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:43.840
for Oh my gosh, that's ancient. That's ancient. That's as

943
00:57:43.840 --> 00:57:47.880
old as time. But so like communal bathing, there are

944
00:57:48.239 --> 00:57:51.480
there are places around the world where you can actually

945
00:57:51.639 --> 00:57:56.039
enter into. Actually, we have a place in Minneapolis called Watershed,

946
00:57:56.079 --> 00:57:59.679
and I got to meet the owner of this spot.

947
00:58:00.039 --> 00:58:04.800
Her name is nel Rukel, and she her background is

948
00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:09.000
in communal bath and so like coming together in those

949
00:58:09.079 --> 00:58:15.000
kinds of spaces is incredibly healing. Coming together hot springs

950
00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:19.599
or i mean lakes are communal bathing experiences, and so

951
00:58:19.760 --> 00:58:22.480
sometimes you can meet people and connect people in those

952
00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:26.480
with with people in those spaces, So you absolutely can

953
00:58:26.599 --> 00:58:30.760
go in with a group mentality and with an intention

954
00:58:31.000 --> 00:58:34.599
to like form a different bond together and have an

955
00:58:34.639 --> 00:58:38.280
experience together that can be really invigorating and also really

956
00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:44.440
cleansing and purifying, and so those shared processes are really special.

957
00:58:44.760 --> 00:58:47.320
If that's something that you want to check out, I

958
00:58:47.440 --> 00:58:52.599
really encourage trying a communal bathing space. It's phenomenal. Else

959
00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:57.400
outside of that connecting within your couplehood, there's a few

960
00:58:57.400 --> 00:59:01.800
things I have to say about that. It is ritual

961
00:59:01.800 --> 00:59:05.960
bathing together can be incredibly healing for a couple. And

962
00:59:06.360 --> 00:59:09.920
also there is something known as sex magic that can

963
00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:15.559
also be intensified and enhanced through uh the journey of

964
00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:17.960
connecting with the water element and using that as a

965
00:59:18.000 --> 00:59:21.360
conduit for the intentions that the couple wants to bring

966
00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:27.360
to their relationship for healing, for you know, for for cleansing,

967
00:59:27.559 --> 00:59:31.320
also releasing, and also bonding in those spaces and really

968
00:59:31.320 --> 00:59:36.199
intimate vulnerable ways. So oh heck, yeah it you You know.

969
00:59:36.360 --> 00:59:39.719
I have to say that always always practice with consent

970
00:59:40.079 --> 00:59:42.760
so that everybody is on the same page, whether you're

971
00:59:42.800 --> 00:59:47.280
in a group or whether you're with your person you

972
00:59:47.400 --> 00:59:49.599
want to have consent. You want to make sure that

973
00:59:49.639 --> 00:59:52.880
everybody's on the same page, because there is just just

974
00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:55.840
like any kind of intimate space that you enter into,

975
00:59:56.719 --> 01:00:00.960
water touches us on really deep emotional and spiritual levels,

976
01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:04.079
and we can get really super vulnerable in those spaces.

977
01:00:04.159 --> 01:00:07.159
And so having everybody kind of prepared when are we done,

978
01:00:07.199 --> 01:00:09.639
what is the signal when this needs to end? Or

979
01:00:11.440 --> 01:00:13.840
when you know, what are we trying to get out

980
01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:15.840
of this? So we're both on the same page. So

981
01:00:15.920 --> 01:00:19.199
I don't advocate for people like surprising people with those

982
01:00:19.320 --> 01:00:22.679
kinds of experiences. Make sure that everybody gets a chance

983
01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:24.679
to be on the same page and just talk it out.

984
01:00:24.760 --> 01:00:28.360
And it's a wonderful experience to have, yeah, in a

985
01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:30.639
group or with with your person.

986
01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:34.599
Okay, so I know you have a lot of this

987
01:00:34.679 --> 01:00:39.159
stuff in your book, but for those interested in diving deeper,

988
01:00:39.320 --> 01:00:41.519
what is the best way for people who have your

989
01:00:41.559 --> 01:00:43.920
book or who are about to purchase it to really

990
01:00:43.960 --> 01:00:46.440
approach it. Is it front to back you should read it?

991
01:00:46.519 --> 01:00:49.199
Or is it more intuitively picking baths that call to

992
01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:51.639
them or I mean, what's your thoughts on that?

993
01:00:51.800 --> 01:00:54.159
Okay, my thoughts on it are and this is usually

994
01:00:54.239 --> 01:00:57.239
with what this is my third published book, they're almost

995
01:00:57.679 --> 01:01:00.559
always the format is almost always the same. I always

996
01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:03.079
advocate that you read, at least read get through the

997
01:01:03.079 --> 01:01:06.159
interroduction in the first few chapters, because that's going to

998
01:01:06.199 --> 01:01:10.199
prepare you with some context. And especially with ritual baths,

999
01:01:10.480 --> 01:01:13.480
there's a whole section on safety. There's a whole section

1000
01:01:13.519 --> 01:01:16.199
and like preparing yourself, your mind, your body for a

1001
01:01:16.280 --> 01:01:20.119
ritual bath experience to set yourself up well. But then

1002
01:01:20.159 --> 01:01:23.599
after that, oh my gosh, it bounce around. There's a

1003
01:01:23.719 --> 01:01:27.719
little lum index that has all the exercises in the bath.

1004
01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:30.360
So like you can jump to the meditation, ritual bath,

1005
01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:32.159
you can jump to the you know what I mean,

1006
01:01:32.280 --> 01:01:34.239
Like the psychic bath, you can jump to there's a

1007
01:01:34.280 --> 01:01:37.039
witch's bath if you want to just do that one.

1008
01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:42.440
So like, get yourself through the first three or four

1009
01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:46.119
chapters first, and then if something doesn't appeal to you

1010
01:01:46.400 --> 01:01:49.440
and you know about it. Some of the chapters like

1011
01:01:49.480 --> 01:01:52.760
not Ancestral Veneration isn't front for everyone. Not everyone's going

1012
01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:55.239
to use a bath for grief processing, but maybe they

1013
01:01:55.480 --> 01:01:58.440
are really digging the psychic development chapter or bathing with

1014
01:01:58.480 --> 01:02:02.639
the Zodiac or bathing with the moon and so yeah,

1015
01:02:02.719 --> 01:02:08.000
you can absolutely dog ear right in the book underline

1016
01:02:08.239 --> 01:02:13.960
highlight your favorite things. But yeah, right to start at

1017
01:02:13.960 --> 01:02:18.760
the beginning first.

1018
01:02:16.960 --> 01:02:18.840
Well, that's how you have to start every book. You

1019
01:02:18.880 --> 01:02:20.840
have to start at the beginning. If you get to

1020
01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:23.400
the middle of a fictional book, you've missed part of

1021
01:02:23.440 --> 01:02:24.320
the entire story.

1022
01:02:25.239 --> 01:02:27.079
I mean, it's like starting life in the middle. If

1023
01:02:27.079 --> 01:02:29.320
you're just born in Boom, you're thirty years old, it's like, wait,

1024
01:02:29.599 --> 01:02:30.480
what do I do.

1025
01:02:34.519 --> 01:02:36.599
To mention you've just damaged your mom?

1026
01:02:36.760 --> 01:02:40.239
Pretty well? Fair?

1027
01:02:40.400 --> 01:02:43.039
Yeah, didn't cross my mind in that bar.

1028
01:02:46.840 --> 01:02:49.239
All right, Jeanda, It's been a blast talking to you,

1029
01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:52.880
but we are getting close to the end of the show,

1030
01:02:53.320 --> 01:02:55.559
so I want to give the mic to you and

1031
01:02:55.599 --> 01:02:58.719
tell everybody where they can find your book, find all

1032
01:02:58.719 --> 01:03:00.840
of your other work, how they can connect with you.

1033
01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:03.199
Mike sat yours, thank you.

1034
01:03:03.599 --> 01:03:06.320
I the best way to get to know what's coming up.

1035
01:03:06.480 --> 01:03:09.440
What I have available is my website. So that's my

1036
01:03:09.559 --> 01:03:13.320
first and last name. Dot com Shanda Parkinson, C H

1037
01:03:13.480 --> 01:03:17.599
A and D A like Panda Parkinson, p A, R

1038
01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:20.880
K I N S O N dot com. I have

1039
01:03:20.960 --> 01:03:23.400
a YouTube channel so you can find me on on

1040
01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:26.199
the web. There you can connect with me on Facebook.

1041
01:03:26.280 --> 01:03:28.920
You can can also connect with me on Instagram, and

1042
01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:31.400
so those spaces are the best way to find what's

1043
01:03:31.440 --> 01:03:34.400
coming up. All my books are there, tons and tons

1044
01:03:34.440 --> 01:03:38.840
of freebee stuff. I've done other podcasts and I've written

1045
01:03:38.960 --> 01:03:43.559
articles and there's other books available. So yeah, that's that's

1046
01:03:43.559 --> 01:03:45.159
the best way to find out what I'm up to.

1047
01:03:45.280 --> 01:03:48.920
And I just I love having coffee dates with people virtually,

1048
01:03:49.119 --> 01:03:51.000
So like, if that's your thing and you want to

1049
01:03:51.039 --> 01:03:54.440
talk to me about ritual bess or anything else that

1050
01:03:54.599 --> 01:03:59.679
is interesting to you in the psychic realm or spiritual realms,

1051
01:03:59.679 --> 01:04:01.960
set up a coffee date virtual coffee date with me.

1052
01:04:02.079 --> 01:04:03.920
That's no charge, and we can just get to know

1053
01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:04.400
each other.

1054
01:04:06.079 --> 01:04:07.039
Awesome, pretty awesome.

1055
01:04:07.119 --> 01:04:09.639
Yeah, and I may have to take you up on that,

1056
01:04:09.719 --> 01:04:12.320
because you know, I have a couple of mentors, but

1057
01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:16.360
I feel like adding another one would be beneficial.

1058
01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:20.000
So fun. I would love that. I would love to

1059
01:04:20.039 --> 01:04:22.440
get to know This is my first time meeting you both,

1060
01:04:22.519 --> 01:04:24.239
so I would love to get to know each of

1061
01:04:24.280 --> 01:04:27.280
you and what. Yeah, this has been a really fun,

1062
01:04:27.360 --> 01:04:31.440
worm and engaging conversation. I'm super appreciative. Thank you.

1063
01:04:31.519 --> 01:04:34.920
Good, awesome, and we appreciate you too. It has been great.

1064
01:04:36.079 --> 01:04:39.880
Thank you so much. And yeah, thanks for being on

1065
01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:40.800
Paratruth Radio.

1066
01:04:41.400 --> 01:04:45.159
My pleasure. You all have a great night to you. Okay,

1067
01:04:45.320 --> 01:04:51.679
bye bye.

1068
01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:53.000
All right, folks. That was Shonda Parkinson, author of the

1069
01:04:53.000 --> 01:04:56.800
book of Virtual Baths. There it is once again for you,

1070
01:04:58.639 --> 01:05:04.000
great conversation. I wasn't expecting her to pop off away.

1071
01:05:04.039 --> 01:05:07.760
But for those of you that want to check her

1072
01:05:07.760 --> 01:05:11.199
out if you want, if you go to our website

1073
01:05:11.400 --> 01:05:14.760
or Luellen dot com. Uh and I'm sure you can

1074
01:05:14.760 --> 01:05:18.800
find it pretty much everywhere. And so yeah, what are

1075
01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:23.480
your some of your final thoughts on ritualistic bath.

1076
01:05:24.400 --> 01:05:26.920
I mean it's beneficial. I think it's very beneficial. I

1077
01:05:26.920 --> 01:05:29.679
think people should absolutely give it a try. I've done it,

1078
01:05:29.719 --> 01:05:32.599
and I do it pretty regularly, especially when I'm going

1079
01:05:32.599 --> 01:05:35.800
through heavy times in my life. You know, you and

1080
01:05:35.840 --> 01:05:38.199
I have talked about it personally, but we've also discussed

1081
01:05:38.440 --> 01:05:41.679
on air on air here. You know this this past

1082
01:05:41.800 --> 01:05:45.280
year for me personally has been pretty rough. Twenty twenty

1083
01:05:45.280 --> 01:05:47.559
five has been tough ones. So you know, I've spent

1084
01:05:47.639 --> 01:05:50.239
a lot of time just sitting in a shower and

1085
01:05:50.320 --> 01:05:51.639
it mind you like when I take a shower, said,

1086
01:05:51.639 --> 01:05:53.639
I don't take them any baths, and I don't. It's

1087
01:05:53.719 --> 01:05:56.679
I haven't taken one in a while. But you know,

1088
01:05:56.880 --> 01:05:58.559
when I take a shell or I'm typically not just

1089
01:05:58.559 --> 01:06:01.079
standing it. When I do a show, I sit down

1090
01:06:01.679 --> 01:06:04.239
on the ground, on the on the tub floor, right,

1091
01:06:04.360 --> 01:06:07.440
I just let that water beat on me. Honestly. One

1092
01:06:07.440 --> 01:06:09.679
of my favorite things I tend to do now is

1093
01:06:09.719 --> 01:06:13.800
more of a what do you call it, like like

1094
01:06:13.840 --> 01:06:16.679
a physical therapy. Basically I have a comb in there.

1095
01:06:16.840 --> 01:06:20.079
I would just comb my hair like something. It depends,

1096
01:06:20.119 --> 01:06:21.760
you know, something of little lights, some a little rougher

1097
01:06:21.840 --> 01:06:24.800
on my scalp, just to like get that feeling move

1098
01:06:25.480 --> 01:06:28.599
some of that energy and that water across my scalp.

1099
01:06:29.239 --> 01:06:32.000
I do this thing called muscle scraping. Basically you use

1100
01:06:32.039 --> 01:06:35.599
like this plastic or there's various stoneware where you kind

1101
01:06:35.599 --> 01:06:39.519
of just rub the muscle down with these objects and

1102
01:06:39.559 --> 01:06:43.559
you kind of help scrape away tension and release toxins

1103
01:06:43.599 --> 01:06:47.000
from the muscles, which can sometimes it bruises, not in

1104
01:06:47.039 --> 01:06:48.880
a bad way. It's not painful by any means, but

1105
01:06:49.239 --> 01:06:51.599
the bruising comes from releasing those toxins and the muscles

1106
01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:55.280
that build up over time, especially when you're working regularly physically,

1107
01:06:55.639 --> 01:06:58.119
I mean, like the physical work and you're not you know,

1108
01:06:58.239 --> 01:07:01.480
maybe not working out regularly, you're not massages, That stuff

1109
01:07:01.480 --> 01:07:03.039
builds up. So you know, those are things that I

1110
01:07:03.159 --> 01:07:06.800
do literally on a daily basis, and just that alone

1111
01:07:06.880 --> 01:07:11.079
helps to helps me to kind of like ground my

1112
01:07:11.239 --> 01:07:14.280
mind in the hair and now and like you know,

1113
01:07:14.360 --> 01:07:17.559
doing the scraping brush, you know, combing my hair and stuff.

1114
01:07:17.960 --> 01:07:20.199
Just the feeling of it kinds that doesn't help me

1115
01:07:21.920 --> 01:07:24.679
focusing on something other than all the things that to

1116
01:07:24.719 --> 01:07:27.920
be going wrong, you know, in life. And have to

1117
01:07:27.920 --> 01:07:30.800
say that, you know, this year and life in general sucks.

1118
01:07:30.840 --> 01:07:33.079
You know, it's not the case by any means, lots

1119
01:07:33.119 --> 01:07:36.519
of ups, but we all know that those heavy times

1120
01:07:36.559 --> 01:07:39.079
tend to be a lot heavier than the good, you know,

1121
01:07:40.719 --> 01:07:43.159
so it is, Yeah, it's very important. And you know,

1122
01:07:43.239 --> 01:07:46.639
like we've shared hair on the show. You don't have

1123
01:07:46.679 --> 01:07:49.440
to necessarily be in a bath or take a shower

1124
01:07:49.480 --> 01:07:51.599
to do this. You can do various types of meditation,

1125
01:07:52.519 --> 01:07:56.960
whether it's you know, flame meditation, water meditation, sitting out

1126
01:07:56.960 --> 01:07:59.880
in the moonlight, you know, any type of thing like that.

1127
01:08:00.719 --> 01:08:05.760
You know, water, though, especially is very prominent in releasing emotions.

1128
01:08:05.880 --> 01:08:08.199
I mean, a lot of people around the world listening

1129
01:08:08.280 --> 01:08:11.239
right now probably recognize the type of feeling that you

1130
01:08:11.400 --> 01:08:13.920
have versus a day full of sun and a day

1131
01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:17.399
full of rain, right, And rain tends to bring out

1132
01:08:17.399 --> 01:08:20.880
the emotions that are typically buried. Maybe we're a little

1133
01:08:20.920 --> 01:08:24.000
more depressed. Maybe you know, we tend to cry a

1134
01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:26.960
bit more for some maybe it releases You're joyful. You

1135
01:08:27.039 --> 01:08:28.840
love rain, you know, And it's just the way that

1136
01:08:28.920 --> 01:08:32.319
water tends to work with the individual. So yeah, you know,

1137
01:08:32.359 --> 01:08:34.119
I think this is all very important, and I think

1138
01:08:34.159 --> 01:08:36.560
it's important for everybody to do some sort of meditation,

1139
01:08:37.319 --> 01:08:39.880
not even just you know, ritualistic baths, but just in

1140
01:08:39.960 --> 01:08:44.159
general to help around yourself, kind of experience a little

1141
01:08:44.159 --> 01:08:48.359
bit of an emotional and spiritual stability, and to learn

1142
01:08:48.399 --> 01:08:49.159
about yourself.

1143
01:08:50.039 --> 01:08:50.680
Yeah.

1144
01:08:50.800 --> 01:08:54.479
No, I agreed, one hundred percent. I'm it's funny you

1145
01:08:54.520 --> 01:08:57.359
mentioned the muscle scraping thing. I mean, that's kind of

1146
01:08:57.399 --> 01:09:04.560
a massage technique, especially with stones. The sad part is,

1147
01:09:04.760 --> 01:09:09.319
I can't excuse me just sit down to meditate anymore.

1148
01:09:09.359 --> 01:09:12.880
So when I'm going to do a meditational bath, that's

1149
01:09:13.039 --> 01:09:15.560
that's the little or what I'm using it for. Yeah,

1150
01:09:17.039 --> 01:09:20.760
and I don't know why other than you know, there's

1151
01:09:20.760 --> 01:09:27.439
so much stimulation around period that just sitting you can't

1152
01:09:27.479 --> 01:09:28.920
I can't get my mind to stop.

1153
01:09:29.279 --> 01:09:29.399
No.

1154
01:09:29.439 --> 01:09:34.880
I feel it that that hot bath specifically, you're letting

1155
01:09:34.920 --> 01:09:39.319
all that tension melt away physically, so it helps the

1156
01:09:39.359 --> 01:09:45.880
mental part too. So I hope you guys have enjoyed

1157
01:09:45.880 --> 01:09:49.520
today's episode. It's one that, like I said, hit near

1158
01:09:49.560 --> 01:09:52.520
and dear in my heart because I have started using

1159
01:09:52.920 --> 01:09:55.600
ritual baths for a while now, but I've made an

1160
01:09:55.600 --> 01:10:00.279
intention to do it at least once a week. So

1161
01:10:00.520 --> 01:10:04.239
if you could create your own ritual bath tonight, what

1162
01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:09.760
intention would you set? Peace? Love, protection, something else all together?

1163
01:10:10.800 --> 01:10:15.199
Get in on the conversation, drop your answer in the comments.

1164
01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:20.039
Or We have just recently created a the Paratruthers Community,

1165
01:10:20.279 --> 01:10:24.199
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1166
01:10:24.760 --> 01:10:27.640
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1167
01:10:28.279 --> 01:10:30.840
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1168
01:10:31.279 --> 01:10:34.560
what you're what you're referencing, and just sorry.

1169
01:10:34.680 --> 01:10:37.279
Also regarding that group, it is an open group, so

1170
01:10:37.399 --> 01:10:40.319
you don't necessarily have to follow us to be a poet, right,

1171
01:10:41.239 --> 01:10:44.640
and so we will have that link also here on Spotify,

1172
01:10:44.680 --> 01:10:46.560
pretty much anywhere you can find these podcasts, you can

1173
01:10:46.560 --> 01:10:49.520
click that in, you know, pop on in, join us,

1174
01:10:49.520 --> 01:10:51.479
and let's continue the conversation.

1175
01:10:52.960 --> 01:11:01.000
Yeah. Yeah, So I'm trying to think we've got gosh,

1176
01:11:01.039 --> 01:11:05.880
what's his name, Jason off It next week and after

1177
01:11:05.920 --> 01:11:10.880
that we're gonna be getting into Thanksgiving mode, so stay

1178
01:11:11.119 --> 01:11:15.000
tuned to all those episodes coming up.

1179
01:11:15.439 --> 01:11:18.880
You said Thanksgiving mode, and immediately my phone just popped

1180
01:11:18.960 --> 01:11:24.159
up with a notification saying, hey, Thanksgiving episode recording this day. Weird?

1181
01:11:29.199 --> 01:11:34.159
All right, well, coincidence has happened, but so do actual

1182
01:11:34.159 --> 01:11:38.640
messages too, like share, subscribe wherever you're at, but until

1183
01:11:38.680 --> 01:11:42.359
next week, where you'll find us, same time, same channel.

1184
01:11:42.399 --> 01:11:45.119
My name is Justin and I'm Eric Pace.